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Champe, John and William

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Re: Champe, John and William

Robert J. Ballantyne (View posts)
Posted: 7 Dec 2001 9:33AM GMT
Classification: Query
Lamb's Creek would be grammaticaly correct, but it almost always is written as Lambs Creek. Where is it? King George Co., VA, near Westmoreland, Prince William, Stafford and Richmond counties. As far as I can tell, John Champe of Cople Parish, Westmoreland, (about 1670-1730) had land on the dividing line between Richmond and Westmoreland counties, and sometimes he paid taxes in one and sometimes in the other.

This is one of several things that make researching the man a challenge. For instance, his separation from his wife is in the Westmoreland Co.,Court Records, but the charge of cohabitation with Mary Carter is in the Richmond Co., Court Records, and at just about the same time.

He had only one son with his legally wedded wife. This son was the one known later as Col. John Champe of Lambs Creek, a man of considerable wealth and standing. Some researchers believe there were half-brothers to Col. Champe from the other relationship. This has not been proven but would explain some of the mysteries surrounding other Champes who appear in some other neighboring counties at the right time to be so related and whose ancestry is veiled by the lack of information.

Even so, if one digs hard enough, it appears that in the 1740's there was at least one other John Champe living in Prince William Co., a place also associated with Col. Champe of Lambs Creek.

One of the confusing things is that a John Champe of Truro Parish and later Loudoun county, VA died in Loudoun Co., the same year (1763) as Col. Champe died in King George Co. This has been proven by the researchers who have found the separate wills of these two namesake Champes.

Sgt. Major John Champe, (1752-98) one of the secret heroes in the Revolutionary War, appears to be the grandson of this John Champe of Loudoun Co.

The Sgt. Major's father (about 1720-1804), another John Champe, appears to have had a second son also named John (b. about 1792) from a second wife. And then, the Sgt. Major had a son named John (b. about 1782). Had enough?)

This has gone on too long, but if you want to learn more about the Lambs Creek plantation see:
http://departments.mwc.edu/hipr/www/Fredericksburg/buildads....

This is a sale notice of 1789 and refers to the land as having belonged to the "late William Champe," who was the son of Col. John Champe. The Colonel's other son was also named John, b. about 1747, which makes things even more confusing.

Neither of Col. John's sons had children that we know of, so it appears that those who claim descent from Col. John Champe have to prove it, somehow. There were, however, a number of daughters, married into prominent families, so genetically there are numerous links down to the present.
SubjectAuthorDate Posted
JadwinB 18 Jun 2000 12:00PM GMT 
nlcalb 7 Dec 2001 3:47AM GMT 
Robert J. Ballantyne 7 Dec 2001 4:33PM GMT 
Nancy 7 Dec 2001 7:39PM GMT 
Robert J. Ballantyne 7 Dec 2001 9:17PM GMT 
Nancy 8 Dec 2001 12:24AM GMT 
Robert Jadwin Ballantyne 8 Dec 2001 6:30AM GMT 
Nancy 8 Dec 2001 3:31PM GMT 
Brenda Champe Collins 16 Jun 2004 7:56PM GMT 
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