Thank you Linda for replying. . I hope this can help someone who has been curious about Edward and Rachel(Smith may be her maiden name) CARTER, who lived in the Smyth co.,VA., and the Washington co., VA. area. Edward appears to have passed away in WV (off a website).,and that is also where a Elisha Carter had lived, mabe a connection?
Its hard to tell if Edward and Rachel were Native American, Black, or White, according to the Cane-Charity website article. Native Americans would try to hide there heritage by claiming to be black or white, and some got by with it if they were light skinned enough. Usually the lighter skinned had a white parent...you probably knew this.
There seems to be a very possible connection of this Edward & Rachel Carter from Duplin , N.C., that lived in the Washington & Smyth co.,VA. area that are connected to President Jimmy Carter. It appears to me that Edward b.1765, was a brother to Alexander Carter (Jimmy Carter's). Alexander Carter wife's surname was Herring. I have copied and pasted below, that shows that Edward and Alexander Carter appear to be brothers....
Note also that if Edward was born in 1765, he would be about 75 on the Smyth co.,1840 census. Smyth co. land records do show and Edward and Rachel Carter living in Smyth co.Va. in the 1830's.
Anyone is welcome to look at this to see if I have it right, and feel free to correct this.
Apparently, there were 2 Captain Thomas Carters. Jimmy Carter would be connected to the Captain Thomas Carter decendants in the Scott/Russell co.,Va. area. Mabe the Washington, Smyth, and some Tazewell Carters connect into this Edward and Rachel Carter line??... I am just speculating, ...someone may want to investigate further to make sure, but it sure makes sense to me.
Repeat Carter first names like (Elisha,Edward,Rachel,Solomon, and others) off the 1840, 50,60,70 census information and marriages from the SMyth & Tazewell co.,Va.... really got my attention.
On the 1820 or 1830 Washington co.,Va. census it shows Edward,(know this is Rachel too), Elisha, a David, and a few other Carters living there. The Duplin, N.C. Carters also had a Solomon and David Carter, and more related to the Edward & Rachel Carter.
IM wondering if Edward & Rachel Carter had a son, Solomon. Someone out there researching this may already know...seems like I saw it somewhere.
Mabe Edward and Rachel had a son named Solomon who named his children Solomon, or Elisha had a son Solomon who named his son Solomon, and this is the Solomon JR.'s that shows up on the 1840's marriages in Smyth co,VA., or mabe Elisha Jr.?
The Solomon, Elisha,Smyth(Smith),William R.,Reece, Louisa, and Matilda(mine) Carter also married 1840's in Smyth co., Va. Edward and Rachel were already in SMyth co. in the 1830's & 40's according to Smyth co. land records and census info.
Mabe the decendants of Edward and Rachel ended up living in and out of Tazewell and Smyth co.,Va., and the grandchildren were named after Edward, Rachel,Solomon, Elisha, ....etc??
A David Carter lived in Washington co.,VA. as early as 1800, mabe a little earier or later.... His wife may have been Sarah (Walker)Carter (just speculating again, but some of you reading this may know for sure by land records). This David was there before Elisha, Edward and Rachel Carter arrived in Washington co.,VA., unless there were 2 David Carters that lived there within a 30 year time frame.
Smith Carter may have been named after Rachel (SMith)Carter...just a guess again.
Reece is a mystery, and I havent studied William R.. There was a Calvin in Smyth too, and he is a mystery.
Most of the Carters found on the Smyth co.VA., 1840's marriage register, Reece, Elisha,Solomon,Smith,Louisa(parent John from Tazwell),lived and married in Smyth and Tazewell counties. Smith married 2 times , once in Tazewell and once in Smyth co.VA.
Matilda Jane Carter Brown is my line. She also married in Smyth co., 1841. Her and her husband John Brown appear to have lived in Smyth, then Greenup,KY. 1850, Boyd co.,Ky in 1860 , Caldwell co., MO. in 1870.
Matilda's brothers may be William, born about 1823,and John born about 1816, and the mother Widow Liddy Carter, according to Wythe county School records of 1832.
Matilda named one of her boys Joseph Calvin.
The Calvin Carter name shows up in Smyth co. in 1830's tax. Dont know if there is a connection. The Calvin Carter that decended from George Carter of Wythe county doesnt appear to belong to my Matilda, or the Smyth co., Calvin Carter.
Anyone who may be interested in Calvin Carter , there was also a Calvin Carter in Boyd Co.,KY, 1860 census the same time as Matilda Jane Carter Brown was there: Calvin-49,Elizabeth-48,John H.-21, Octavia-17,Eliza J.-9.
Note that the George Carter decendants that lived in Wythe co, in the early 1800's were connected to Robert (King) Carter. Guy and Bushnell Carter lived in Wythe that time frame also, and they were from the Connecticut area. Mitchell and Thompson Carter, may be connected to George Carter,not sure.
If anyone knows more to add , please feel free, would love to hear more, and settle the Edward and Rachel Carter mystery,and other Carters from the Smyth and Tazewell areas,or anyone who may know they are connected to Edward and Rachel.
Heres the (Alexander)Jimmy Carter connection to Edward & Rachel Carter of Duplin, N.C. , if you want the full version of this Carter family, go to website, freeafricanamericans,or Cane-Charity in search box :
18. Solomon Carter (_____, Edward2, Edward1), born say 1725, was not yet twenty-one years old when his grandfather Edward Carter made his 23 March 1735/6 New Hanover County will. He was a resident of Duplin County on 6 May 1758 when he purchased 300 acres in Craven County near the Duplin County line on the north side of Tuckahoe Creek known by the name of Springs [DB 2:208]. He sold this land on 12 September 1763 while a resident of Duplin County [DB 11:283]. He received patents for 300 acres in Dobbs County on the north side of Tuckahoe Creek on 27 April 1767 and 360 acres in Duplin County on the Northeast Branch of Cape Fear River on both sides of Matthew's Branch on 29 April 1768 [Hoffman, Land Patents, II:347, 437]. He was in Dobbs County with his brother Edward, listed in the undated Muster Roll of foot soldiers in Captain William Whitfield's Company [Clark, Colonial Soldiers of the South, 642] and bought land from Edward in Duplin County on 12 October 1772 [DB 3:437]. He sold land by a deed registered in Dobbs County between April 1771 and April 1773 [DB 9:132] and purchased land by deeds proved in Dobbs from 1799-1801 [DB 19:204] and 1805-10 [DB 23:6, 143, 154]. He was counted as white in the 1790 Duplin County census, head of a household of two males, one female, and 3 slaves [NC:190] and counted as "other free" in Duplin County in 1800, head of a household of 4 "other free" and 3 slaves. He transferred his land to his sons by deeds which were apparently not recorded. On 30 January 1806 he was allowed the use of the plantation where he was living for the remainder of his life by a deed from his son David [DB 4A:4]. Constant Carter was probably his wife. On 29 August 1809 she sold to (her son?) Alexander Carter of Duplin County 26 cattle "in consideration of a bond for maintaining sd Constant during her natural lifetime." Their children were
i. David, born say 1760, counted as white in 1790, head of a Duplin county household of 5 males and 1 female [NC:191], and head of a Duplin County household of 9 "other free" in 1800. He sold 235 acres in Duplin County, land which had been Solomon Carter's, on 30 January 1806 with the proviso that his father have use of part of the plantation until his death [DB 4A:4].
21 ii. ?Edward7, born circa 1765.
iii. ?Leah Cartey, born say 1765, married Ezekiah Blizzard, 19 December 1782 Duplin County bond. On 27 December 1811 Alexander Carter sold Leah Carter of Lenoir County 146 acres of land in Duplin County [DB 4A:392].
iv. Manuel, born say 1770, married Fereba Alberson, 15 November 1789 Duplin County bond, Solomon Carter bondsman. He was head of a "white" Duplin household of 1 male and 1 female in 1790 [NC:191] and head of a Duplin household of 6 "other free" in 1800. He was probably Solomon's son since he sold land which had belonged to Solomon. In 1810 he was counted as white in Duplin County, head of a household of 7 males, two of them over forty-five years old, one woman over forty-five years old, and one slave [NC:690].
v. Alexander, born say 1775, married Sarah Herring, 6 June 1795 Duplin County bond, Solomon Carter bondsman. He was head of a Duplin County household of 4 "other free" in 1800. On 5 December 1806 he sold 100 acres in Duplin which previously belonged to Solomon Carter, and on 29 August 1809 he made a deed with Constant Carter, probably his mother, to maintain her for life [DB 3A:550; 4A:79]. He made 10 purchases and sales of land in Duplin County between 1806 and 1813 [DB 3A:306, 550, 556; 4:284, 392, 393, 394, 396, 402, 462]. One was for land at the head of Carter's Mill Pond and Juniper Branch adjacent to Jonathan Nickens, a relative of James Nickens, who married Margaret Carter of Hertford County.
19. Abel Carter (John2, Thomas2, Thomas1), born say 1732, was "a Molatto" accused by the March 1750 Session of the Craven County court of concealing his taxables [Haun, Craven County Court Minutes, IV:31]. He was not penalized because the court accepted his defense that he was living with his father who was never legally warned by the Constable. He was listed as a "free Negro" with John Carter in Abner Neale's 1754 and 1755 Craven Muster Roll [Clark, Colonial Soldiers of the South, 708]. In 1769 Abel was taxable in Craven County on 2 Black males and 3 Black females [SS 837]. On 14 November 1778 an advertisement in the North Carolina Gazette of New Bern accused him of harboring a runaway slave:
negro fellow named Smart ... Tis supposed he is harboured about Smith River by one Abel Carter, a free Negro, as he has been seen there several times [Fouts, NC Gazette of New Bern, I:83].
He was head of a Craven County household of 7 "other free" persons in 1790 [NC:130]. His children may have been
i. John3, born 1754, enlisted in Captain Quinn's Tenth Regiment. He was engaged in skirmishes near West Point and Kings Ferry. He made a declaration in September Term 1820 Craven County court to obtain a pension. He was a cooper, living with his sister Margaret Fenner when he made his declaration in 1820. Asa Spelman testified on his behalf. He died before 30 July 1821 [M805-166, frame 497]. He may have been one of two John Carters, heads of "other free" Carteret County households in 1790 [NC:128, 129].
22 ii. George2, born about 1755.
23 iii. Isaac3, born about 1760.
iv. Margaret5 Fenner, sister of John3 Carter. She was called Margaret Moore in June 1797 when she petitioned the Craven County for permission to manumit her "negro man slave" named Jack Fennel who was her husband by whom she had had a number of children. Through his industry they had acquired a 200 acre plantation stocked with cattle and hogs [Byrd, In Full Force and Virtue, 41]. John Fenner, Sr., was head of a Craven County household of 5 "free colored" in 1820 [NC:65].
v. Joshua, head of a Craven County household of 4 "other free" in 1790 [NC:130]. He received 4 pounds pay for forty days service in the Craven County Militia under Major John Tillman in an expedition to Wilmington [Haun, Revolutionary Army Accounts, Journal "A", 141].
vi. Solomon, born about 1773, a "Free Negro Boy Aged Five Years," apprenticed as a cooper to Richard Neale by the 13 March 1778 Craven County court [Minutes 1772-84, vol. 1, p.70c].
vii. Mary, petitioned the Craven County court about 1800 for permission to free her husband Anthony who was her slave [Byrd, In Full Force and Virtue, 45].
viii. Tabitha2, born say 1785, married William Howard, 9 June 1807 Craven County bond, James Godett bondsman. William Howard, born before 1776, was head of Craven County household of 6 "free colored" in 1820 [NC:65].
20. Charles Carter (John1, Edward3, Thomas1), born say 1758, purchased 50 acres in Halifax County, North Carolina, joining Rosser, Carter, Johnson, and Cymons branch on 24 August 1779 from John Carter [DB 14:287]. Perhaps John was the one who was counted as one "free colored" in Rowan County in 1820 [NC:348]. Charles was head of a Halifax County household of 5 "other free" in 1790 [NC:61]. He may have been the father of
i. Randol, head of a Halifax County household of one "other free" in 1790, adjacent to Charles Carter [NC:61].
ii. Frederick, head of a Halifax County household of one "other free" in 1790, adjacent to Randol Carter [NC:61].
iii. Samuel, head of a Halifax County household of one "other free" in 1800 [NC:298], six in 1810 [NC:9], and 11 "free colored" in 1820 [NC:144].
iv. William3, born say 1775, head of a Halifax County household of one "other free" in 1800 [NC:298].
21. Edward7 Carter (Solomon, _____, Edward2, Edward1), born say 1765, was head of a Duplin County household of 2 males and one female counted as white in 1790 [NC:190] and head of a household of 5 "other free" in Duplin County in 1800. He and his son Elisha Carter, "son of Edward & Rachel his wife," received a deed of gift of 150 acres in Duplin County from Solomon Carter on 18 September 1797 [DB 3A:425]. His child was
i. Elisha, born 19 April 1792, moved to Washington County, Virginia, where on 20 April 1813 he sold the 150 acres in Duplin County deeded to him and his father in 1797. His mother Rachel testified that he was then twenty-one years old [Duplin DB 4A:462].