As far as i know Dan and Anges were not married. The birth certificate was alater thought because elmer found out homer was not his dad. i've looked into the Daniel W , but didnt want to just put anyone down. I can't find anything tying Dan to elmer. So im not sure if he even know about him. Thanks for all the help. i will keep looking. gege clark. p.s on the tree i couldnt put dan as elmer father plus homer it just didnt want to work. is there a way to put stepdad on the line? with out haven dan be married to anges.