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Skornicka and Schleis in Kewaunee Co.

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Re: Skornicka and Schleis in Kewaunee Co.

Posted: 27 Aug 2007 8:45AM GMT
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Below please find the history of MY bloodline. Hope you fit in somewhere.....The following Stangels settled in
Stangelville, Wisconsin so if your family is from there then you will find a link.....Happy Hunting Chris Swoboda

Schlies ancestors came to America from Domazlice, SW Bohemia Petrovice 2 km of Havolice, & Petrovice Western Towns The Stangels were serfs. They could not choose their own occupation and needed special permission to move to another manor. They needed written permission to marry and their spouse was chosen for them. A letter was found giving Bartholomew permission to serve in a different manor and take a second wife. The land belonged to the ‘lord of the manor’. The buildings could be owned by a serf. When the lord said ‘Till the ground, plant the seed, harvest, care for the draft animals, he did so immediately. To wait, even a day, was to risk a fine, imprisonment, flogging, or being stretched on the rack, or subjected to other torture. Placement in the army, never to be heard from again was another punishment. The serf or commune of serfs were responsible to keep equipment in good order. (e.g plows, harrows and wagons) They also might be told to supply a number of eggs, chickens, ducks, geese, spun wool, spun flax, firewood, candles, rye, buckwheat, etc. In addition, the serfs of Bohemia were taxed heavily. They must pay the monarch, local lords and the church a combined 81% to 91% of their meager incomes. If they failed, they faced the same punishments as above. When serfdom was abolished in 1848 the lord had to be paid off. Two thirds of the fee was paid by the state. One third had to be paid by the serf. A loan from the state was possible. Before they could get papers to emigrate, all loans must be paid. It is possibly the reason the Stangels left in 1853. They came in at least three Groups. If failure was met in the US, the first group could go back. After successfully settling, the first group would help subsequent groups settle.

1Sebastian Stangel b: c1620 d: 12/2/1693 Chrastavice, Bohemia m: Anna b: c1620 d: 4/25/1677 Chrastavice
(Info from the Manor Horsovsky, Book of Serfs 1660. above spelled Steind.)
(above Anna’s death was recorded in the Domazlice Book #1 as spelled Sstenglowa)
2Hieronimus Stangel b: c1659 d: 12/20/1719 Chrastavice, Bohemia m: 10/10/1690 to Anna Randa
(His name is also listed as Jeromyn or Jarolim)
3Bartholomeus Stangel b: 8/24/1711 Chrastavice d: 11/8/1772 Straz, Bohemia House #18 Buried: St. John
the Baptist Cemetery He came from Munich to m: Katharina Pilnac
4Joannes (Jan) Stangel b: 3/28/1753 in Straz, Bohemia d: 4/12/1828 in Straz, #27, (Hogwartl) Bohemia. He is buried At the catholic cemetery at the Domazlice church in Czechoslavakia. m: Katharina Piwonda /Pivonka (F: Simon Pivonka M: Anna Zik) (She was descended from the Chods, the free guards of Domazlice who would set fires on the tops of the eleven mountains surrounding the city, to indicated that the invading army was advancing. They came into being around the year 1025. They (Chods) were rich farmers and had access to education and they were the link between the ordinary farming class (serfs) and the nobility. They were directly subject to the king and their farm was listed in the royal register in Prague. Their affairs were handled directly by the royal officers. Out of this free class of Chods came many representatives of farmers, namely, in the Hussite time (15th century) and later. Also the spiritual and political leaders of the Czech nation came from their ranks As guards, they walked the borders with large, strong dogs and carried a walking stick/weapon. It was called a ‘cakan’. One end was sharpened to a point and the lower end a small hammer and and hook The guards were free men without overlords. They had their own justice, castle, flag, seal and charters from the Kings, John of Luxembourg, Charles IV, Wenceslas IV, George of Podebrady, etc. They freely hunted the forest they guarded, a privilege not shared by others. In 1625 King Ferdinand confiscated their estates. The Chod were sold for 56,000 pieces of gold to Lord Lommikar/Lamminger and became serfs. They rebelled until 1695 when one of their leaders Jan Kozina was hanged in Pilsen.)
-5Gregorius Stangel b: 5/12/1780
-5Dorothea Ann Stangel b: 8/23/1782
-5Jakub Stangel b: 9/25/1786
-5Johan Stangel b: 9/30/1787
**-5Dorota Stangel b: 1/22/1790 Straz #18, Bohemia d: Domazlice, Bohemia See below for history – m: Adam Rebitzer
-5Jan Stangel b: 6/2/1793 twin to
-5Magdalena Stangel b: 6/2/1793 twin
-5Mary Stangel b: 1/31/1795
-5George (Jiri) Stangel b: 6/4/1797 House #18 Straz, (Hochwartel) Bohemia d: 8/9/1872 St. Marys Cemetery
Tisch Mills, Wi m: 9/11/1818 Straz (Hochwartel), Bohemia to Maria Mleziva b: 1801 d: 1875 They had 11 children. For some good stories of their lives in Wisconsin see Stangel. George emig. Bremen to N.Y. on the Ship Rome and landed 9/1/1853 as the following states: Joseph Stangel age 25 a farmer, Marie Stangel age 25, Marg./Mary Stangel age 2, George Stangel age 56 a farmer and Joseph Stangel age 17 (George & Dorota only 2 known to have gone to Wisconsin). (The step-mother of Jack Berg is descended from this George)
Schlies ancestors came to America from Domazlice, SW Bohemia Petrovice 2 km of Havolice, & Petrovice Western Towns The Stangels were serfs. They could not choose their own occupation and needed special permission to move to another manor. They needed written permission to marry and their spouse was chosen for them. A letter was found giving Bartholomew permission to serve in a different manor and take a second wife. The land belonged to the ‘lord of the manor’. The buildings could be owned by a serf. When the lord said ‘Till the ground, plant the seed, harvest, care for the draft animals, he did so immediately. To wait, even a day, was to risk a fine, imprisonment, flogging, or being stretched on the rack, or subjected to other torture. Placement in the army, never to be heard from again was another punishment. The serf or commune of serfs were responsible to keep equipment in good order. (e.g plows, harrows and wagons) They also might be told to supply a number of eggs, chickens, ducks, geese, spun wool, spun flax, firewood, candles, rye, buckwheat, etc. In addition, the serfs of Bohemia were taxed heavily. They must pay the monarch, local lords and the church a combined 81% to 91% of their meager incomes. If they failed, they faced the same punishments as above. When serfdom was abolished in 1848 the lord had to be paid off. Two thirds of the fee was paid by the state. One third had to be paid by the serf. A loan from the state was possible. Before they could get papers to emigrate, all loans must be paid. It is possibly the reason the Stangels left in 1853. They came in at least three Groups. If failure was met in the US, the first group could go back. After successfully settling, the first group would help subsequent groups settle.

1Sebastian Stangel b: c1620 d: 12/2/1693 Chrastavice, Bohemia m: Anna b: c1620 d: 4/25/1677 Chrastavice
(Info from the Manor Horsovsky, Book of Serfs 1660. above spelled Steind.)
(above Anna’s death was recorded in the Domazlice Book #1 as spelled Sstenglowa)
2Hieronimus Stangel b: c1659 d: 12/20/1719 Chrastavice, Bohemia m: 10/10/1690 to Anna Randa
(His name is also listed as Jeromyn or Jarolim)
3Bartholomeus Stangel b: 8/24/1711 Chrastavice d: 11/8/1772 Straz, Bohemia House #18 Buried: St. John
the Baptist Cemetery He came from Munich to m: Katharina Pilnac
4Joannes (Jan) Stangel b: 3/28/1753 in Straz, Bohemia d: 4/12/1828 in Straz, #27, (Hogwartl) Bohemia. He is buried At the catholic cemetery at the Domazlice church in Czechoslavakia. m: Katharina Piwonda /Pivonka (F: Simon Pivonka M: Anna Zik) (She was descended from the Chods, the free guards of Domazlice who would set fires on the tops of the eleven mountains surrounding the city, to indicated that the invading army was advancing. They came into being around the year 1025. They (Chods) were rich farmers and had access to education and they were the link between the ordinary farming class (serfs) and the nobility. They were directly subject to the king and their farm was listed in the royal register in Prague. Their affairs were handled directly by the royal officers. Out of this free class of Chods came many representatives of farmers, namely, in the Hussite time (15th century) and later. Also the spiritual and political leaders of the Czech nation came from their ranks As guards, they walked the borders with large, strong dogs and carried a walking stick/weapon. It was called a ‘cakan’. One end was sharpened to a point and the lower end a small hammer and and hook The guards were free men without overlords. They had their own justice, castle, flag, seal and charters from the Kings, John of Luxembourg, Charles IV, Wenceslas IV, George of Podebrady, etc. They freely hunted the forest they guarded, a privilege not shared by others. In 1625 King Ferdinand confiscated their estates. The Chod were sold for 56,000 pieces of gold to Lord Lommikar/Lamminger and became serfs. They rebelled until 1695 when one of their leaders Jan Kozina was hanged in Pilsen.)
-5Gregorius Stangel b: 5/12/1780
-5Dorothea Ann Stangel b: 8/23/1782
-5Jakub Stangel b: 9/25/1786
-5Johan Stangel b: 9/30/1787
**-5Dorota Stangel b: 1/22/1790 Straz #18, Bohemia d: Domazlice, Bohemia See below – m: Adam Rebitzer
-5Jan Stangel b: 6/2/1793 twin to
-5Magdalena Stangel b: 6/2/1793 twin
-5Mary Stangel b: 1/31/1795
-5George (Jiri) Stangel b: 6/4/1797 House #18 Straz, (Hochwartel) Bohemia d: 8/9/1872 St. Marys Cemetery
Tisch Mills, Wi m: 9/11/1818 Straz (Hochwartel), Bohemia to Maria Mleziva b: 1801 d: 1875 They had 11 children. For some good stories of their lives in Wisconsin see Stangel. George emig. Bremen to N.Y. on the Ship Rome and landed 9/1/1853 as the following states: Joseph Stangel age 25 a farmer, Marie Stangel age 25, Marg./Mary Stangel age 2, George Stangel age 56 a farmer and Joseph Stangel age 17 (George & Dorota only 2 known to have gone to Wisconsin). (The step-mother of Jack Berg is descended from this George)
Schlies ancestors came to America from Domazlice, SW Bohemia Petrovice 2 km of Havolice, & Petrovice Western Towns The Stangels were serfs. They could not choose their own occupation and needed special permission to move to another manor. They needed written permission to marry and their spouse was chosen for them. A letter was found giving Bartholomew permission to serve in a different manor and take a second wife. The land belonged to the ‘lord of the manor’. The buildings could be owned by a serf. When the lord said ‘Till the ground, plant the seed, harvest, care for the draft animals, he did so immediately. To wait, even a day, was to risk a fine, imprisonment, flogging, or being stretched on the rack, or subjected to other torture. Placement in the army, never to be heard from again was another punishment. The serf or commune of serfs were responsible to keep equipment in good order. (e.g plows, harrows and wagons) They also might be told to supply a number of eggs, chickens, ducks, geese, spun wool, spun flax, firewood, candles, rye, buckwheat, etc. In addition, the serfs of Bohemia were taxed heavily. They must pay the monarch, local lords and the church a combined 81% to 91% of their meager incomes. If they failed, they faced the same punishments as above. When serfdom was abolished in 1848 the lord had to be paid off. Two thirds of the fee was paid by the state. One third had to be paid by the serf. A loan from the state was possible. Before they could get papers to emigrate, all loans must be paid. It is possibly the reason the Stangels left in 1853. They came in at least three Groups. If failure was met in the US, the first group could go back. After successfully settling, the first group would help subsequent groups settle.

1Sebastian Stangel b: c1620 d: 12/2/1693 Chrastavice, Bohemia m: Anna b: c1620 d: 4/25/1677 Chrastavice
(Info from the Manor Horsovsky, Book of Serfs 1660. above spelled Steind.)
(above Anna’s death was recorded in the Domazlice Book #1 as spelled Sstenglowa)
2Hieronimus Stangel b: c1659 d: 12/20/1719 Chrastavice, Bohemia m: 10/10/1690 to Anna Randa
(His name is also listed as Jeromyn or Jarolim)
3Bartholomeus Stangel b: 8/24/1711 Chrastavice d: 11/8/1772 Straz, Bohemia House #18 Buried: St. John
the Baptist Cemetery He came from Munich to m: Katharina Pilnac
4Joannes (Jan) Stangel b: 3/28/1753 in Straz, Bohemia d: 4/12/1828 in Straz, #27, (Hogwartl) Bohemia. He is buried At the catholic cemetery at the Domazlice church in Czechoslavakia. m: Katharina Piwonda /Pivonka (F: Simon Pivonka M: Anna Zik) (She was descended from the Chods, the free guards of Domazlice who would set fires on the tops of the eleven mountains surrounding the city, to indicated that the invading army was advancing. They came into being around the year 1025. They (Chods) were rich farmers and had access to education and they were the link between the ordinary farming class (serfs) and the nobility. They were directly subject to the king and their farm was listed in the royal register in Prague. Their affairs were handled directly by the royal officers. Out of this free class of Chods came many representatives of farmers, namely, in the Hussite time (15th century) and later. Also the spiritual and political leaders of the Czech nation came from their ranks As guards, they walked the borders with large, strong dogs and carried a walking stick/weapon. It was called a ‘cakan’. One end was sharpened to a point and the lower end a small hammer and and hook The guards were free men without overlords. They had their own justice, castle, flag, seal and charters from the Kings, John of Luxembourg, Charles IV, Wenceslas IV, George of Podebrady, etc. They freely hunted the forest they guarded, a privilege not shared by others. In 1625 King Ferdinand confiscated their estates. The Chod were sold for 56,000 pieces of gold to Lord Lommikar/Lamminger and became serfs. They rebelled until 1695 when one of their leaders Jan Kozina was hanged in Pilsen.)
-5Gregorius Stangel b: 5/12/1780
-5Dorothea Ann Stangel b: 8/23/1782
-5Jakub Stangel b: 9/25/1786
-5Johan Stangel b: 9/30/1787
**-5Dorota Stangel b: 1/22/1790 Straz #18, Bohemia d: Domazlice, Bohemia See below – m: Adam Rebitzer
-5Jan Stangel b: 6/2/1793 twin to
-5Magdalena Stangel b: 6/2/1793 twin
-5Mary Stangel b: 1/31/1795
-5George (Jiri) Stangel b: 6/4/1797 House #18 Straz, (Hochwartel) Bohemia d: 8/9/1872 St. Marys Cemetery
Tisch Mills, Wi m: 9/11/1818 Straz (Hochwartel), Bohemia to Maria Mleziva b: 1801 d: 1875 They had 11 children. For some good stories of their lives in Wisconsin see Stangel. George emig. Bremen to N.Y. on the Ship Rome and landed 9/1/1853 as the following states: Joseph Stangel age 25 a farmer, Marie Stangel age 25, Marg./Mary Stangel age 2, George Stangel age 56 a farmer and Joseph Stangel age 17 (George & Dorota only 2 known to have gone to Wisconsin). (The step-mother of Jack Berg is descended from this George)

also

See Page 1 of “Schlies” - Following is ancestry of Frances (Stangel) Berg – Jacks stepmother (Simple Form)

1George “Jiri” Stangel 1797-1872 m: Maria Mleziva 1801-1875
2Wenzel Stangel 1819-1880 m: Katherine Cisler 1822-1867
3Margaret Stangel 1847-1905 m: Ignat Sr. Wojta b: 1845-1929
3Mary Stangel 1850-1922 m: George Karman 1847-1926
3Wenzel J Stangel 1851-1920 m: Katherine Vogelkanz 1854-1927
3Annie Stangel 1854-1937 m: Frank J Hinesh 1848-1924
3Joseph John Stangel 1858-1939 m: Maria Cherney 1859-1899
3Frank W Stangel 1861-1924 m: Marie E Resak 1863-1939
3John M Stangel 1863-1943 m: Frances Fenzel 1864-1943
2Jacob Stangel 1822-1845 m: Barbara Vassek
3Thomas Stangel, Sr. 1837-1908 m: Anna Froman 1836-1919
4Anna Stangel 1865-1913 m: Mathias Holub, Sr. 1845-1920
4Mary Stangel 1867-1890
4Josephine Stangel 1871- m: Joseph Albrecht, Sr. 1862-
4Joseph Stangel, Sr. 1875-1936 m: Josephine Hallada 1888-1957
4Mathew J. Stangel 1880-1951 m: Mary Dufek 1881-1916
2Joseph Stangel 1825-1825
2Johann Stangel 1826-
2Mary (Maria) Stangel 1828-1903 m: Joseph Stangel 1827-1882
3Margaret Stangel 1852-1936 m: Wenzel Prausa 1849-1935 (See Extra Schlies)
3Joseph Stangel 1854-1908 m: Katherine Vocadlo 1855-1930
3George A Stangel 1857-1941 m: Anna M Mleziva 1864-1938
3Mary Stangel 1861-1944 m: John Mleziva 1862-1936
2John (Johann) Stangel 1831-1908 1st m: Dorothy Pelnar 1832-1873
2nd m: Mrs. Hrudka 1817-1902
3Joseph W Stangel, Sr. 1854-1932 1st m: Anna Aulik 1854-1894
2nd m: Ludmilla Hauska died 1902
3John Joseph Stangel 1857-1931 1st m: Annie Seidenglanz 1857-1892
2nd. m: Frances Tilkowsky 1859-1942
3George W Stangel 1859-1933 m: Frances Steffl 1867-1955
3Mary A Stangel 1861-1941 1st m: a Kotache 2nd. m: Wenzel W Riha 1849-1932
3Wenzel M Stangel 1863-1936 m: Catherine Prausa 1872-1945
4Richard Stangel b: 10/19/1906
4Benjamin Stangel m: Beverly
5Michael Stangel
4Frances Stangel b: 10/22/1908 Tisch Mills m: Jacob Berg 5/1/1954
2Joseph Stangel 1834-1834






2Joseph Stangel 1836-1924 m: Mary Holub 1837-1905
3Mary Stangel b: 1851
3Paul Wencel Stangel 1858-1927 m: Amelia/Emma Seidl 1865-1915
3Annie Stangel 1858-1880 m: Joseph S Jansky 1852-1930 (He also m: her sister)
3John J Stangel 1862-1947 m: Anna Riha 1864-1951
3Mary Stangel 1865-1943 m: Joseph S Jansky 1852-1930 (He also m: her sister)
3Louis G Stangel 1873-1939 m: Christina Fichta 1873-1956
3Joseph F Stangel 1875-1934 m: Lillian Dolyesh 1882-1935
3Emil Stangel 1879-1905 m: Anna R. Franz 1879-1968
#5 Glenn Stangel who lives in California
3Josephine Stangel 1883-1971 m: Charles Schleis 1878-1901 (See Extra Schleis)
2Katharina Stangel 1839-1840
2Mathias Stangel 1843-1843
2Katharina Stangel 1846-1847

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