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Re: Ronsman Family

Posted: 14 Apr 2013 5:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi again, I found more information. Besides Martha's 4 siblings, Gertrude, Nicholas, Leona, and Laura, I found 2 more. Anna M., and Eleanor/Ella/Elouise, who died at age of about 2. Leona married a Cromwell, and eventually went to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Nicholas married Sophia Monian, and moved to Monterey, California, where he died in 1956. They had 3 known children, Eugenia, Barbara, and Ruth. Ruth married a Gordon and died in 1982.

If I am right, Their mother, Augusta (Wehlitz) Goerling was put in an asylum in Marathon County, and has been there since at least 1910 until 1930. I couldn't find her in the 1900 & 1905 census yet. I didn't find her in 1940 census, ao maybe she died by then.

Their father Nicholas Goerling, seems to have been married once before to Henriette Kickenbush, and had at least 6 children with her, John, Carl, Peter, Joseph, Ida & Louis. These would be Martha's half siblings. See next post for this family....
Ruth Pokorny
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"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926"
Name: Anna M Goerling
Gender: Female
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 21 Sep 1883
Birthplace: Wausau, Marathon, Wisconsin
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race: White
Father's Name: Nicholas Goerling
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Augusta Welitz
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00319-0
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1305087
Reference ID: P 699 rn 2755
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926," index,
FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XR6F-F55 : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicholas Goerling in entry for Anna M Goerling, 21 Sep 1883
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"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926"
Name: Eleanor Goerling
Gender: Female
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 01 Dec 1884
Birthplace: Wausau, Marathon, Wisconsin
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race: White
Father's Name: Nicholas Goerling
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Augusta Relitz
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00318-9
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1305086
Reference ID: item 3 p 343
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926," index,
FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XR66-5V9 : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicholas Goerling in entry for Eleanor Goerling, 01 Dec 1884.
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"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926"
Name: Ella Goerling
Gender: Female
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 01 Dec 1884
Birthplace: Wausau, Marathon Co., Wisconsin
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race: White
Father's Name: Nick. Goerling
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Auguste Wehlitz
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00318-7
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1305085
Reference ID: item 2 p 447
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Births and Christenings, 1826-1926," index,
FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XR6Z-3K9 : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nick. Goerling in entry for Ella Goerling, 01 Dec 1884.
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"Wisconsin, Deaths and Burials, 1835-1968"
Name: Eloise Goerling
Gender: Female
Burial Date:
Burial Place:
Death Date: 09 Aug 1886
Death Place: Wausau, Marathon, Wisconsin
Age: 1
Birth Date: 01 Dec 1884
Birthplace: Wausau
Occupation:
Race: White
Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name: Nicholas Goerling
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name: Augusta Wueltz
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B06533-7
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1306212
Reference ID: P488
Citing this Record
"Wisconsin, Deaths and Burials, 1835-1968," index, FamilySearch https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XLWD-MFF : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicholas Goerling in entry for Eloise Goerling, 01 Dec 1884.
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Wisconsin, State Censuses, 1895 and 1905
Name: Laura Goerling
Census Date: 1 Jun 1905
Residence County: Brown
Residence State: Wisconsin
Locality: Allouez
Birth Location: Wisconsin
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Race: White
Line: 8
Roll: CSUSAWI1905_2
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Wisconsin, State Censuses, 1895 and 1905
Name: Leons Goerling (Leona)
Census Date: 1 Jun 1905
Residence County: Brown
Residence State: Wisconsin
Locality: Allouez
Birth Location: Wisconsin
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Race: White
Line: 9
Roll: CSUSAWI1905_2
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Wisconsin, State Censuses, 1895 and 1905
Name: Nicholis Gorling
Census Date: 1 Jun 1905
Residence County: Green Lake
Residence State: Wisconsin
Locality: Mackford
Birth Location: Wisconsin
Marital Status: Single
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Race: White
Relation: Servant
Line: 37
Roll: CSUSAWI1905_12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Chas Mclaughlin 76
Bridget Mclaughlin 60
Edward Mclaughlin 34
Nicholis Gorling 15
Gust Weber 22
Rosa Setchoff 16
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1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Nick Goerling[Nick Goerling] [Goesling]
Age in 1910: 20
Birth Year: abt 1890[1890]
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Home in 1910: Wausau Ward 7, Marathon, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: France
Mother's Birthplace: United States
[United States of America]
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Gus Steinberg 56
Elizebeth Steinberg 50
Theo Steinberg 22
Richard Steinberg 18
Elma Steinberg 19 [14]
Walter Steinberg 15
Irene Steinberg 9
Nick Goesling 20
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1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Nick Goerling
Age: 30
Birth Year: abt 1890
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Home in 1920: Wausau Ward 3, Marathon, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Nephew
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Ohio
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Heneretta Goerling 70
Heneretta Goerling 38
Nick Goerling 30
Arthur Scherbast 23[22]
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1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Nicholas Goerling
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1891
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Race: White
Home in 1930: Monterey, Monterey, California
View Map
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Sophie Goerling
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Wisconsin
Occupation:
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Nicholas Goerling 39
Sophie Goerling 40
Eugenia Goerling 9
Barbara Goerling 7
Ruth Goerling 5
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1940 United States Federal Census
Name: Nicholas Goerling
Respondent: Yes
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Monterey, Monterey, California
View Map
Street: Franklin Street
House Number: 739
Inferred Residence in 1935: Monterey, Monterey, California
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Sheet Number: 4A
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 66
Father's Birthplace: France
Mother's Birthplace: France
Occupation: Warehouseman
House Owned or Rented: Rented
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 25
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 8th grade
Duration of Unemployment: 476
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in Government work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 52
Income: 1320
Income Other Sources: No
Native Language: English
Veteran: Yes
Military service: World War
Social Security Number: Yes
Usual Occupation: Chauffeur
Usual Industry: Private Home
Usual Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Household Members: Name Age
Nicholas Goerling 50
Sophia A Goerling 50 born Wisconsin
Eugenia M Goerling 19 born California
Barbara F Goerling 16 born California
Ruth E Goerling 15 born California
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"California, Death Index, 1940-1997"
Name: Nicholas Valentine Goerling
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 20 Sep 1956
Event Place: Monterey, California, United States
Birth Date: 01 Aug 1889
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Goerling
Mother's Name: Wehlitz
Citing this Record
"California, Death Index, 1940-1997," index, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VPW3-5NV : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicholas Valentine Goerling, 1956.
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"United States, World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918"
Name: Nickholas Rolland Goerling
Event Type: Draft Registration
Event Date: 1917-1918
Event Place: Marathon County no 2, Wisconsin, United States
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 01 Aug 1889
Birthplace: Wausau, Wisconsin, United States
Nationality: United States
Affiliate Publication Title: World War I Selective Service System
Draft Registration Cards
Affiliate Publication Number: M1509
GS Film number: 1674774
Digital Folder Number: 005251482
Image Number: 01927
Citing this Record
"United States, World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K8QY-TB2 : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nickholas Rolland Goerling, 1917-1918.
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"United States, World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942"
Name: Nicholas Valentine R Goerling
Event Type: Draft Registration
Event Date: 1942
Event Place: Monterey, Monterey, California
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 01 Aug 1889
Affiliate Publication Title: World War II Draft Cards (4th
Registration) for the State of California
Affiliate Publication Number:
Affiliate ARC Identifier: 603155
GS Film number: 2407759
Digital Folder Number: 004667506
Image Number: 01974
Citing this Record
"United States, World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942," index and images, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V48F-LP4 : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicholas Valentine R Goerling, 1942.
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"California, Death Index, 1940-1997"
Name: Ruth Gordon
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 24 Jan 1982
Event Place: Monterey, California, United States
Birth Date: 09 Mar 1925
Birthplace: California
Gender: Female
Father's Name: Goerling
Mother's Name: Monian
Citing this Record
"California, Death Index, 1940-1997," index, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VGGP-6ZX : accessed 14 Apr 2013), Goerling in entry for Ruth Gordon, 1982.
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Seems to be Laona....Leona....

1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Laura Goerling[Lorna Goesling] [Goerling]
Age: 26
Birth Year: abt 1894
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Home in 1920: Milwaukee Ward 3, Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Ohio
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
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"Brazil, Rio de Janeiro, Immigration Cards, 1900-1965"
Name: Leona G.Cromwell
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: 1945
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Widowed
Nationality: United States
Birth Date: 19 Dec 1893
Birthplace: Wasau,Wisc,EUA
Father's Name: Nicholas Goerling
Mother's Name: Augusta Wehlitz Goerling
Traveling With Children: No
Digital Folder Number: 004771499
Image Number: 00012
Citing this Record
"Brasil, Cartões de Imigração, 1900-1965," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V1S1-8N3 :
accessed 14 Apr 2013), Nicholas Goerling in entry for Leona
G.Cromwell, 1945.
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Marathon County Insane Asylum

1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Augusta Goerling [Augusta Goerling]
Age in 1910: 47
Birth Year: abt 1863
Birthplace: Germany
Home in 1910: Weston, Marathon, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Patient
Marital Status: Married
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
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Marathon County Insane Asylum & Home

1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Augusta Goerling[Augusta Goesling]
Age: 54[34]
Birth Year: abt 1866[abt 1886]
Birthplace: Germany
Home in 1920: Weston, Marathon, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Inmate
Marital Status: Married
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
Able to Read: No
Able to Write: No
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Marathon County Asylum

1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Augusta Goerling
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1863
Birthplace: Germany
Race: White
Home in 1930: Wausau, Marathon, Wisconsin
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Insane
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
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