Sorry not to get back sooner. I have been job hunting, among other activities. I should have known that my e-mail of BJLiebenstein@aol.com
would not be automatically listed. Anyway - We are from Conrad Liebenstein (Phillip (Jr.?)'s brother ) brach. Alvin (Conrad's son, my grandfather) had nine children. He died in an auto accident in 1936 or '37. My father was Joseph Allen. He worked for I.B.M. from 1955 until his death in 1979 from complications related to brain cancer. I can supply more information if you or others are interested.