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Re: Mia Mia & District

jennydes — 2013-05-13 02:08:33Z

I am a descendant of McDonalds who were early settlers at Mia Mia and McKennas who were early settlers at Langwornor and I would be interested in helping with this project.

Re: Mia Mia & District

mollipops1 — 2013-04-19 01:43:19Z

It may help to know/provide some surnames. From NLA Trove:

The McIvor Times and Rodney Advertiser, Thursday 24 December 1896
MARRIAGE.
MATHIESON-- ROBINSON.-At the residence of the parents, Boscobal, Glenhope East, by the Rev. Mr Crockett, Angus Mathieson, son of Mr J. Mathieson of Mia Mia, to Helena, daughter of the late Mr Jas. Robinson of Spring Plains.

The McIvor Times and Rodney Advertiser, Friday 7 June 1895
MIA-MIA.
(FROM OUR OWN CORRESPONDENT)
DEATH OF MR A. CAMERON.—Mr Allan Cameron was the oldest resident of Mia Mia having been a resident continuously for 32 years. He was a blacksmith by trade and carried on that business for 20 years. Mr Cameron was born in Inverness, Scotland, and was a colonist of 43 years. Mrs Cameron died five years ago at the age of 85. They have left a family of four daughters and one son. The funeral took place on Wednesday 29th May. The remains being interred in the Heathcote Cemetery and was well attended. The Rev. Mr Crockett officiated at the grave.

The McIvor Times and Rodney Advertiser, Thursday 28 October 1897
MIA-MIA. (FROM OUR CORRESPONDENT.) I am sorry to announce the death of Mr Samuel Fleming, of Mia Mia, who breathed his last on Thursday morning at the residence of Mrs. Thomson in Hutton Street, Kyneton. Mr Fleming had been ailing about about a year, but it was only about a month ago that his illness became serious. He was under the care of Dr Pestle of Kyneton, and at his request was removed to Kyneton a fortnight ago. Mr Fleming was 62 years of age at the time of his death. He leaves a wife and family of seven daughters and one son well provided for. Mr Flemming was a native of Tyrone, North of Ireland, and was a resident of Mia Mia for thirty years where he followed the occupation of farmer and' grazier. He was a stright-forward honest man and a good neighbor. His remains were interred in the Kyneton Cemetery on Saturday last, the cortege was not lengthy, but was a representative one of Mia Mia, Redesdale and Kyneton. The Rev. J. A. Crockett, of Mia Mfa, officiated at the grave. The mortuary arrangements were carried out by Mr Bromley.

The McIvor Times and Rodney Advertiser, Thursday 23 December 1897
MIA-MIA.
FROM OUR CORRESPONDENT.
Mr James Andrew of Glenhope breathed his last about 9 o'clock on Wednesday last, after a long and painful illness, at the ripe age of 79 'years. Through his illness he was attended by Dr Duncan of Kyneton. Mr Andrew was a native of Ayrshire, Scotland, and errived in this colony in '52'. He purchased a farm at Glenhope abouit 34 years ago and resided thereon continously with the exception of 3 years, having let the farm to a Mr Govett. Only on one occasion did Mr Andrew seek municipal honors, when he opposed Councillor L. F. Westblade for the South Western Riding of the M'Ivor Shire, but was defeated by a small majority. Mr Andrew leaves a grown up family well provided for. The funeral took place on Thursday, the place of interment being the Kyneton Cemetery. The Rev. J. A. Crockett of Mia Mia conducted the burial service, the mortuary arrangements being carried out by Mr H. Bromley.

Thursday 21 April 1910
DEATH.
FERGUSON-On the 11th April, at Spring Plains, Agnes, widow of the late Archibald Ferguson, in her 85th year, after a short illness.

Thursday 10 August 1911
IN MEMORIAM.
FERGUSON-On 9th August, 1908, at "Sunnyside' Spring Plains, William Ferguson, beloved husband of Jane Ferguson.

Also HYSLOP, SMITH, CHAMBERS, WESTBLADE

Mia Mia & District

woodduckridge — 2013-04-18 22:53:25Z

The Mia Mia Mechanic's Institue History Working Group. are trying to contact descendants of early settlers, soldier settlement blocks, past residents or families that lived in Mia Mia and/or the Parish of Langwornor(Meadow Valley), Spring Plains and Glenhope, with the aim of publishing a book. Any help greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Gwen

Sandhurst

Mauruss — 2013-04-18 06:58:51Z

When entering Sandhurst as the place of birth or death for your ancestors, you might like to put (Bendigo) after as there is now a place in Victoria 37km south-east of Melbourne in the LGA City of Frankston. In years to come there maybe great confusion between the two places.

Re: Henry Page Saunders

Jarrah74 — 2013-01-23 06:50:13Z

Thanks, Tania. Mary Ann must have been my Great Grandmother's half sister - her brother Robert made similar claims about their great grandmother being a niece of Cook, so i guess i'll have to find out whether she married a man named "Carne". I remember reading somewhere that Admiral Saunders was childless, so i'm not sure about that one...
It's a shame that my family never seemed to be the one to inherit 'historical relics', as i would have loved to see these.

Re: Gethin

Lorraine_D82 — 2013-01-18 10:34:39Z

Thankyou for that info. it is very helpful.

Re: Gethin

Lorraine_D82 — 2013-01-18 10:22:54Z

Thanks for that. I'm new at this game.

Re: Gethin

mollipops1 — 2013-01-18 06:13:16Z

It would have been better to add a reply to your other thread, where relevant info is already posted...

http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/search.php

Gethin

Lorraine_D82 — 2013-01-18 04:09:16Z

Flossie Sarah Gethin nee Jefferies wife of Clarence James, died age 71. Does anyone know where she is buried?

Re: Kangaroo Flat Cemetery

foxxes1 — 2013-01-16 09:42:14Z

Many thanks. George Fox and most other relatives are buried in Bendigo Cemetery. The plans for the older section of the Kangaroo Flat cemetery are missing along with Grave markers.

Re: Kangaroo Flat Cemetery

deeess — 2013-01-16 08:14:37Z

George FOX was buried 1955 at BENDIGO Cemetery; Section: MON H2, grave number: 37320

BENDIGO Family History Group may be able to assist you.

Re: Gethin

mollipops1 — 2013-01-15 09:46:40Z

WWII enlistments:
GETHIN MATTHEW HENRY : Service Number - WX28726 : Date of birth - 12 Jun 1909 : Place of birth - WALES ENGLAND : Place of enlistment - PERTH WA : Next of Kin - GETHIN WINIFRED

GETHIN IVOR INGRAM : Service Number - W71608 : Date of birth - 01 Nov 1907 : Place of birth - CARERSWS WALES : Place of enlistment - DENMARK WA : Next of Kin - GETHIN ELSIE

There is a photo of Matthew at NAA Recordsearch. www.naa.gov.au/collection/using/search/
Click on begin your search and type his namein the search box.

Flossie's birth:

Births Dec 1897 (>99%)
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Jefferies Flossie Sarah Cardiff 11a 284a

Parents marriage (going by parents names on death reg)

Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%)
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Crowther Rubena Anne Cardiff 11a 494
Jeffries John Cardiff 11a 494

See also http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=900&a...

Re: Gethin

mollipops1 — 2013-01-15 09:36:08Z

Clarence J GETHIN married Flossie S JEFFERIES in Perth in 1937 (reg 1097). Flossie arrived in Fremantle from London in 1929 aboard 'Orford' (alone?). No children are mentioned in his death notice.

He was known as Jim, had siblings in WA...and left his wife a wealthy woman! From NLA Trove newspapers:

The West Australian, Monday 25 August 1952
GETHIN (Clarence James): On Aug. 22, at his home, South Moorine Rock, Jim, dearly loved husband of Floss. Peace, perfect peace.
The West Australian, Friday 29 August 1952
GETHIN: On Aug. 22, Jim, dear brother of Dick, brother-in-law of Bonnie, uncle of Reg, Eunice and Margaret.
GETHIN: On Aug. 22, Jim, dear brother of Evan and Ivor, sister-in-law of Rene and May.

The West Australian, Thursday 11 December 1952
Farmer Left £21,952
Clarence James Gethin, famer, of Moorine Rock, who died on August 21 at the age of 49, left estate valued for probate at £21,952/6/4. His widow is the sole beneficiary under his will.

His brother's death (he is listed as Jim):
The West Australian, Thursday 5 June 1947
GETHIN.-On May 28, 1947, at Southern Cross, John William, husband of Josephine Mary Gethin, loved father of John, Owen and Olwen, loved brother of Dick, Jim, Evan, Matthew, Ivor and Tom.
GETHIN.-The Friends of the late Mr. John William Gethin, of Moorine Rock, are respectfully informed that his remains were interred in the Church of England portion of the Southern Cross Cemetery last Saturday morning at 11 o'clock.

GETHIN marriages for the brothers:
John Wm married Josephine Mary FRASER in Perth in 1928 (reg 15).
Richard Edw married Nellie Jane BRANSON in Perth in 1934 (reg 506).
Ivor Ingram married Elsie May I TUCK in Perth in 1939 (reg 1309).
Matthew Hy married Alice Winifred NEVILLE in Yilgarn in 1940 (reg 9).

Southern Cross Pioneer Cemetery (see Lorraine's Burial Records site):
GETHIN , Alice Elizabeth. 25 August 1928. Aged 5 days
GETHIN , Arthur Walter. Youngest son of Richard and Nella . - . Aged 6 months
GETHIN , Clarence James. Husband of Flossie. 22 August 1952. Aged 48 years.
GETHIN , John William. 1947 Unmarked grave
GETHIN , John William. 3 August 1929. Aged 11 hours
GETHIN , Nella Jane. Mother of Norma, Reg, Eunice, Walter, Margaret. 4 August 1913 - 18 December 1986
GETHIN , Norma Jean. Eldest daughter of Richard and Nella. 30 March 1942
GETHIN , Richard Edward. Father of Norma, Reg, Eunice, Walter, Margaret. 22 June 1898 - 17 September 1962. Aged 64 years

Northam Cemetery:
GETHIN , Alice Winifred. 12 June 2004. Aged 86 yearsa
GETHIN , Matthew H. Husband of Winnie, father of June, Neville and Eric. 18 June 1975. Aged 66 years

Karrakatta Cemetery (see MCB WA):
GETHIN, Elsie May. 15/12/1987 aged 87.
GETHIN, Evan Tudor. 2/6/1963 aged 61.
GETHIN, Flossie Sarah. 8/1/1970 aged 71.
GETHIN, Irene Mary [wife of Evan]. 28/8/1989 aged 85.
GETHIN, Ivor Ingram. 15/3/1988 aged 80.
GETHIN, Josephine Mary. 15/8/1979 aged 76.

Just noticed Alison's reply on your other thread - you can match up names to above.

If you check out the White Pages phone directory online (Residential) there are several Gethin families still living in Moorine Rock and surrounding areas.

Re: Gethin

warncoort1 — 2013-01-15 07:57:32Z

WA BMD index is free online,electoral rolls may help with his movements.

Re: Gethin

alisonwilliams2763 — 2013-01-14 23:25:14Z

Hello,
You have posted on the Bendigo Victoria board. You should have posted to Western Australia board :(
Australia has strict privacy laws . Western Australian BDM are only available as follows:
Births 1841-1932
Marriages 1841-1936
Deaths 1841-1971
Here are all the deaths:
Surname Given Names Sex Age Father Mother Place of Birth Registration District Registration Number Registration Year
GETHIN ALICE E Female YILGARN 10 1928
GETHIN ARTHUR W Male YILGARN 5 1945
GETHIN CLARENCE J Male YILGARN 8 1952
GETHIN EVAN TUDOR Male 61 UNKNOWN UNKNOWN PERTH 1469 1963
GETHIN FLOSSIE SARAH Female 71 JOHN RUBINA A PERTH 224 1970
GETHIN JOHN W Male YILGARN 19 1929
GETHIN JOHN W Male YILGARN 7 1947
GETHIN NORMA J Female YILGARN 9 1942
GETHIN PHILLIP D Male YILGARN 3 1934
GETHIN RICHARD EDWARD Male 64 JOHN T ELZIABETH MERREDIN 48 1962
GETHIN STILLBORN Male PLANTAGENET 27 1941

You can search yourself here:
http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.a...

I would hazard a guess that all the GETHINs in Kalgoorlie Yilgarn are somehow related being such as unusual name .

I have looked t the Electoral Rolls and in 1931 Clarence was living in Moorine Rock kalgoorlie and was a farmer. Also other GETHINs living there were David Thomas, Evan Tudor, Irene Mary, John Wiliam and Josephine Mary.
He is listed up to 1949.
You can search these yourself under Australian Electoral Rolls.
If you get his Death Certificate it should show his wife and children.
Regards
Alison

Gethin

Lorraine_D82 — 2013-01-14 10:05:58Z

Clarence James Gethin born Wales 1904, came to Australia 1922. He lived in WA and married in 1937. He died in 1952 in WA.Did he always live in WA or did he live/work elsewhere? Who did he marry and did they have any children?

Gethin

Lorraine_D82 — 2013-01-14 10:02:58Z

Re: John Leslie Maxwell STEPHENSON

gregstevo128 — 2013-01-08 08:01:34Z

Thank you.

Greg Stephenson

Re: John Leslie Maxwell STEPHENSON

warncoort1 — 2013-01-08 01:05:14Z

The owners of public trees either have the certificate or personal knowledge of his birth,so contact with them may be fruitful.The other option is that John's birth was registered but is not entered on index,contact with Victorian BMD would clear that up.

Re: John Leslie Maxwell STEPHENSON

gregstevo128 — 2013-01-07 10:58:53Z

Unfortunately I have no idea who might have his Birth Certificate. My searches so far have failed to uncover any birth information. Thank you for the suggestion I will follow up that avenue of enquiry.
Regards

Greg Stephenson

Re: Gordon-Cooke

caroledouch1 — 2013-01-07 09:33:50Z

Thanks for reply, Ill do that Carole

Re: Gordon-Cooke

mollipops1 — 2013-01-07 09:30:42Z

It may be worth getting a lookup of this death notice from the Ryerson Index

GORDON-COOKE
Patricia Joan
Death notice
21JUN2010 Death [aged] 68
Cairns Post 22JUN2010

Seems she was born in NSW

Good luck

Re: John Leslie Maxwell STEPHENSON

warncoort1 — 2013-01-07 06:23:26Z

Looks like a generation slip here,Thomas was 60 when John was born,Isabel was 66!!John appears to have been raised by his grandparents so using their names in birth search will scramble results.
Did children from previous marriage of Isabel take the name Stephenson?By 1879, either of those girls may have had a child old enough to bear John.Best to find out who has John's birth certificate and get a copy of same.

Re: John Leslie Maxwell STEPHENSON

warncoort1 — 2013-01-07 05:27:26Z

Seems every tree owner has copied his date of birth,have you contacted these people?

John Leslie Maxwell STEPHENSON

gregstevo128 — 2013-01-07 05:03:57Z

Does anyone have information regarding my grandfather, Leslie Maxwell STEPHENSON. I cannot find any record of his birth. I have his Marriage Certificate No 87161 which shows he was married to my Grandmother (Georgina Ah Wan)in Jundah, Queensland on 27 January 1913. On that document he gave his name as John Leslie Maxwell STEPHENSON, his birthplace as Bendigo in Victoria, his age as 33 years and his parents as Thomas Stephenson and Isabel McPherson.

Gordon-Cooke

caroledouch1 — 2012-12-27 04:41:51Z

Hello,

Im trying to find any one who is related to any Gordon-Cooke families

Some were in Sydney 1920, some in Victoria, one from Tasmania,

thanks for any help carole

Re: Constance Halveston Dean

mollipops1 — 2012-12-23 14:57:03Z

Pure luck, found Constance Halveston DEAN's marriage to Thos Jas TOPP in 1914 (reg 7794). Do you have this certificate?

Chn born in Mildura:
Alma Jean 1914
Gordon Floyd 1917
Doris Melva Annie 1919
Lorna Millicent b. c1923, d. 1926 aged 3

Thos Jas died in 1970 aged 84, reg 27536.

Maybe...birth for a Constance HALVORSTONE in 1895 (reg 4819) to Hy Emmel & Eliz nee COLLINS, in Landsborough, Vic.

Aha! There is a death in Mildura for an Elizabeth MARTIN in 1951 aged 93, daughter of Jas COLLINS & Louisa DICKET (reg 23901). Birth of Louisa COLLINS to Jas & Louisa nee DICKETT in Ararat in 1858 (reg 13178).

Elizabeth COLLINS (b. Ararat) married to Michael DEAN (b. Portland) in 1877 (reg 2817). They had 9 chn in and around Landsborough 1878-87. (Let me know if you'd like details of these children - appear to be half-siblings of Constance).

Death of a Michael DEAN in Stawell, aged 42, in 1890, son of Geo & Ellen nee CAHILL (reg 4843).

Then a marriage for Elizabeth DEAN to Alex MARTIN in 1901 (reg 386).

No trace of Hy HALVORSTONE...but does explain why that is her middle name and she was known by surname DEAN. Seems like a good match to me...

Constance Halveston Dean

mtscobie — 2012-12-23 14:56:09Z

She is my husband's grandmother.Possibly born out of wedlock, no birth certificate exists.Her mother married a Mr Martin.Not sure of father's name.

Re: Constance Halveston Dean

bruce_mar14 — 2012-12-23 06:24:30Z

Dear Mollipops, that sure is a stroke of good luck.All your info on the second marriage of Elizabeth Collins seems to tie in with what we know.All the children of Constance and Thomas are correct.
Many Thanks.
mtScobie

Boer War "Avenue of Honour" High Street Bendigo

foxxes1 — 2012-12-23 03:39:45Z

Boer War soldiers were commemorated by brass plaques placed on Elm Trees that once lined High Street. My great uncle James Peter Fox served with 2VMR and 2ACH in South Africa and was honoured with one of these plaques.
Are any of these plaques still in Existence?

Re: Boer War "Avenue of Honour" High Street Bendigo

warncoort1 — 2012-12-22 23:43:05Z

Highly unlikely the plaques would ever be destroyed,local council or RSL should be able to help.

Re: Constance Halveston Dean

mollipops1 — 2012-12-22 09:51:43Z

Ah at least we know what happened to Henry! This appears to also mention Constance's birth ('false registration') - which I take to mean he was not married to Elizabeth. And look at the name of his co-accused - his 'stepson'! :(

The Horsham Times, Friday 25 October 1895
The Stawell Assizes
Sentencing the Prisoners
Henry Emile Halverstone, who pleaded guilty to four count of sheep stealing at Landsborough ; four years imprisonment. To a charge of perjury preferred against the same prisoner, the offence being involved in the the false registration of the birth of a child, he had also pleaded guilty. On this he was sentenced to two week's imprisonment. James Dean, a lad, charged with sheep stealing in conjunction with Halverstone, who had also pleaded guilty, was ordered to be sent to the reformatory.

Kangaroo Flat Cemetery

foxxes1 — 2012-12-22 05:02:53Z

I have relatives buried at Kangaroo Flat Cemetery but cannot locate their graves. I understand that gravemarkers were removed by vandals in the 1960's. The Cemetery Trust has no maps/plans of the early burials. Any information or assistance on possible layouts/plans would be gratefully accepted. Relatives buried at Kangaroo Flat include William Barwick Fox and his wife Johanna (nee Fullerton) and various children including James Peter Fox who served twice in the Boer War (2VMR & 2ACH) and was also belonged to the 5th Battalion, Infantry Regiment, Victorian Militia before Federation.

Re: Constance Halveston Dean

warncoort1 — 2012-12-21 23:34:24Z

No public tree,no detail in your post,do you have any information at all?

Annie Elizabeth Angwin & John Mitchell

Gennie2281 — 2012-12-10 04:05:52Z

Researching Annie Elizabeth Angwin & John Mitchell. Annie died in NSW in 1948 and she was 73 giving a year of birth as circa 1875 and birthplace of Hawthorn. Her parents are listed as John Angwin, labourer and Elizabeth Ann Williams.
She supposedly married John Mitchell at Hawthorn when she was 20 ie c 1895 however her only child Leslie Justice Mitchell appears to have been born in 1896 at Carlton and registered as Leslie Jestes Angwin
There are a significant number of Angwins around Bendigo and a number of those are named Justus, so there is probably a connection there are also a number of John Angwins but none appear to be the correct one. Trove had an Annie Elizabeth Angwin daughter of John Angwin marrying in 1875 but the husband and generations don’t match a marriage in 1895.
I have been unable to find any trace of a marriage between John Mitchell and Annie Elizabeth Angwin nor have I been successful in tracing the birth of Annie Elizabeth Angwin. Can anyone help or offer suggestions of where else to look?
Also posted on the Victoria - General board. TIA

Re: Henry Page Saunders

Tania_Dennis — 2012-11-26 21:09:13Z

Hi Again

Captain Cooks family tree. From what I read only one of his sisters line produce children who went on to produce more children and that was Margaret COOK b:1742 who married George FLECK. Now interestingly I noted you mentioned the surname CARTER - one of Margaret COOK and George FLECK's daughters Grace FLECK b: 1770 (who would have been Cook's niece) married a John CARTER and they had a number of daughters if you could find one that possibly married a SAUNDERS then you may find your connection.
But like all things it maybe just a family myth.

Below is a link to Captain Cook's family tree.

http://www.captcook-ne.co.uk/ccne/familytree.htm

Cheers
Tania

Re: Henry Page Saunders

Tania_Dennis — 2012-11-26 12:00:30Z

Trove newspapers

South Australian newspapers mention Henry Page Saunders under list of Unclaimed Letters. 1845, 1848

Perhaps he arrived in South Australia and then went to Victoria.

Cheers
Tania

Re: Henry Page Saunders

Tania_Dennis — 2012-11-26 11:49:11Z

An article in the newspaper about Henry's daughter Mary Ann mentioned in his Will - talks about his arrival in Australia being in SA and then going to Victoria. From this article I have also provided a possible link to the date and ship he arrived on.

The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA : 1931 - 1954) Previous issue Wednesday 27 January 1937

Descended From Captain Cook
Mrs. M. A. Trewren, of First avenue, Royston Park, claims to be a collateral descendant of Captain Cook, the dis- coverer of Australia. Her great grand-
mother was a niece of the navigator. Mrs. Trewren's father, through whom she claims descent, came to South Aus tralia in 1839, but stayed for only four years. He settled in Victoria, and Mrs. Trewren was born there. She married 47 years ago, and has since lived in Adelaide. At her home Mrs. Trewren has a number of historical relics, including etchings of Captain Cook and Admiral Sir Charles Saunders, a direct ancestor. She also has a remarkable parchment map in the form of a sphere, which can be inflated. The map was drawn by her father, Mr. H. Saunders at a Bristol Academy at the age of 14. The cartography is excellent, and the colors look as if they had been used only a year or so ago.

This might be his arrival.
South Australian Passenger Lists
Shipping arrivals and immigration 1803 to 1854+
Barry Leadbeater

SAUNDERS Henry arrived in SA 1839-07-24 aboard William (2) from Launceston [Source:23(1/2),38]

Cheers
Tania

Re: Henry Page Saunders

Jarrah74 — 2012-11-24 06:34:20Z

Hi Kellie.
I had not included his age and parents because i am not entirely sure that they are correct. I cannot find any other reference to his mother being Ann Carne, and i'm sure my grandmother made mention of there being a Carter instead. I dont have actual marriage certificates but ancestry.com references for both of his marriages (both Elizabeth and my GG-grandmother Catharine Paull). I literally know nothing of this man other than what i stated, which is why i'm looking for help.

Supposedly, he was the nth-great grand nephew of James Cook, but i'm not sure - i'm looking to see if there's any weight to this theory before i reject it.

Thanks,
Elise

Re: Henry Page Saunders

Sad_Mushroom — 2012-11-24 00:31:32Z

Hi,
When asking for help it is a good idea to provide the information you already have to save helpers having to search for stuff you already have.

Considering you are after a birth,,providing his age at death and parents names are of the utmost importance..

Do you have his death certificate?
It should state his wife/childrens names and his time in Australia.

His death registration
Name: Hy Page Saunders
Death Place: Bendigo, Victoria
Age: 81
Father's Name: Wm Carne Saunders
Mother's Name: Ann Carne
Registration Year: 1900
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 7960
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819

I assume this is his marriage
Name: Henry Page Saunders
Spouse: Elizabeth Luxton
Marriage: 1856 - Victoria

so we know he arrived by 1856..
Do you have this marriage certificate?
It may name his parents or if he had been married previously. Also his death registration seems to have odd parent details.

This arrival is a pretty close match
SAUNDERS HENRY 45 FEB 1853 CLARA SYMES B 029 009
SAUNDERS WILLIAM 18 FEB 1853 CLARA SYMES B 029 009

Kellie

Re: Henry Page Saunders

corahlf — 2012-11-22 12:35:07Z

Hi,
Digitised will available for viewing online via PROV, Public Record Office Victoria.

Leanne

Henry Page Saunders

Jarrah74 — 2012-11-22 10:51:00Z

I'm looking for info on my GG-Grandfather, Henry Page Saunders. I have a record of his death in 1900, but i would really like a record of his immigration to Australia and birth in the UK. Anyone have any info that might help?

Re: William Harvey ABT 1870 - 1946

caroledouch1 — 2012-10-25 01:30:36Z

Hello
I'm a member of the Eaglehawk Heritage Society, and was just going through the messages. We are working on getting a WEB site up and Running, email me and Ill have a look and see if we can help, thanks carole

Re: Archibald Arena MARTIN

KathyInIllinois — 2012-10-15 23:58:59Z

Thank you for all the help!! I appreciate it so much!! Hopefully this weekend I will get a chance to dig into this information!

Re: Archibald Arena MARTIN

Tania_Dennis — 2012-10-15 11:31:41Z

Hi mollipops1

The Mary Hilda MARTIN midwife if correct would have been Archibald's daughter not his wife - so she would have been single at time in 1950 as she didn't marry until 1952. Winifred Katherine was Archibald's wife. Mary Hilda MARTIN married Archibald Frank CLOSE. But as you point out it is possible to be another Mary Hilda MARTIN.

Cheers

Re: Archibald Arena MARTIN

mollipops1 — 2012-10-15 00:47:56Z

Great stuff, Tania! Good find on Ryersons, death notices may lead to living descendants!

The only bit I think may be in dispute is the SA midwife - I am pretty sure nurses (and teachers) back in the day had to be single women - in any case, there was a Mary Hilda MARTIN born in 1924 in Clare district of SA who I think is most likely this woman; seems more the case that Archibald & Mary stayed in NSW ;)

Re: Archibald Arena MARTIN

Tania_Dennis — 2012-10-14 12:45:33Z

Hi it looks like Mary CLOSE (nee MARTIN) had middlename of Hilda.

Google Newspapers
Sydney Morning Herald Wednesday, 12th June 1963
Extract....Legal Notices In the Will of HENRY PERCY WRIGHT late of Hunters Hill in the state of New South Wales retired Engineer deceased....last Will and Testament dated the 2nd day of October 1962....Mary Hilda Close and Frank Archibald Close executors named in Will......

Ryerson Index
Death Notices
CLOSE Archibald Frank
Death notice 17SEP1982 Death
late of Hunter Springs Sydney Morning Herald 21SEP1982
CLOSE Mary Hilda
Death notice 31OCT1992
Death at Bowral Sydney Morning Herald 03NOV1992

It also appears that Mary may have trained as a midwife.
The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA : 1931 - 1954)(about) Previous issue Tuesday 9 May 1950

MIDWIFERY EXAM RESULTS
The results of the midwifery examination held last month by the Nurses Board of South Australia were announced yesterday as follows:
Pass with credit fin order of merit) — Mary Symonds, Mar gery Hilda Evans; May Elizabeth Black. Emily Hill. Nita Pearl Hynes — all of Queen Victoria: Maternity Hospital; Sylvia; Esma Pool. Port Pirie Hospital: : Beryl Gladys Roberts, Queen! Victoria Maternity Hospital. Pass - in alphabetical order) —Cynthia Josephine Clark, Renmark District Hospital; Helen! Bessie James. Queen Victoria I Maternity Hospital; Louisa Ray Mclrmes. Port Pirie Hospital, Mary Hilda Martin, Bermce! Elizabeth Sorrell, Nanette Susman— all of Queen Victoria Maternity Hospital: Irene Elizabeth Taylor, Calvary Hospital.

Cheers
Tania

Re: Archibald Arena MARTIN

mollipops1 — 2012-10-14 03:22:17Z

My pleasure!

The link for Victorian certificates is here

https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=pu...

:-)

Re: Archibald Arena MARTIN

mollipops1 — 2012-10-14 03:18:01Z

Aha! Just found this:

The Argus, Friday 2 January 1942
MARRIAGE
CLOSE—MARTIN.—Mary, only daughter of Mr. and Mrs. A. A. Martin, Chipping, Ringwood, to Frank Close, of Rawong, Malaya, elder son of Mr. and Mrs. A. Close, Bellvue Hill, Sydney.

I suspect this may be his WWII enlistment, with wife Mary as his next of kin:
CLOSE FRANK ARCHIBALD : Service Number - NX173622 : Date of birth - 16 Jun 1914 : Place of birth - SYDNEY NSW : Place of enlistment - Unknown : Next of Kin - CLOSE MARY

I think his father is most likely Archibald Freebairn CLOSE who died in July 1950 in Sans Souci NSW, as husband of Clare and father of Frank and Ian.

Re: Archibald Arena MARTIN

KathyInIllinois — 2012-10-14 03:13:30Z

Oh my!! You guys are wonderful! Louisa Ward Martin was my grandmother's aunt! I would love to know how exactly to get this document for my records. Where do I have to go to download this? I wonder if this Mary is still alive??

I'm thrilled to know that Archibald Arena Martin knew his mother's name. Sometimes that info gets lost when the mother dies when the child is young (he was 6 years old). I would love to know if there area any stories that were passed down.

Thanks so much! If you find more, I'd love to see it!!

KathyInIllinois