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What happend to Thomas & Ellen ?? Help Needed...

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Re: What happend to Thomas & Ellen ?? Help Needed...

Posted: 6 Nov 2012 10:51PM GMT
Classification: Query

Just checked the UK censuses...looks like Thomas had already left by 1861..

In 1851, Thomas is a scholar and census says born ASTLEY:

WOLFENDEN, Thomas Son M 9 1842 Scholar Astley, Lancashire
Address: 4, Clover Street, Rochdale County: Lancashire

this is the father's probate:

Name: Jesse Woolfenden
Probate Date: 17 Apr 1871
Death Date: 19 Mar 1871
Death Place: Lancashire, England
Registry: Manchester, England
A widower, tailor and draper, of 132 Yorkshire Street, probate granted to daughter Jane, a spinster of the same address - left under 100 quid
...
I found an article in the UK papers where Jesse W , a tailor and formerly a policeman gave a surety of 12 quid to a Master tailor, George WHITE who had become bankrupt and owed a solicitor Mr HUNT 28 quid...GW paid most of the money but stopped owing 6 quid...so HUNT went after Jesse for the balance. For giving surety ( July 1851) GW had given Jesse a Promissory Note of 12 quid...so Jesse sued GW. Unfortunately both Jess and GW gave such contradictory evidence that the judge allowed GW to win ' at the expense of his character' ( I am sure that made Jesse feel much better!)
District News .
Manchester Times (Manchester, England), Saturday, December 29, 1855; Issue 719.

Marriage: 17 Dec 1837 St Mary, Oldham, Lancashire, England
Benjamin Wolfenden - (X), of full age Spinner Bachelor of Oldham
Sarah Garlick - (X), of full age Spinster of Oldham
Groom's Father: John Wolfenden, Spinner
Bride's Father: James Garlick, Spinner
Witness: Abram. Jackson; John Jackson
Married by: J. Fallowfield
Register: Marriages 1837 - 1838, Page 67, Entry 200
Source: LDS Film 1656120

Marriage: 11 Jun 1838 St Mary, Oldham, Lancashire, England
Jesse Wolfenden - of full age Tailor Bachelor of Oldham
Ann Dean - (X), of full age Spinster of Oldham
Groom's Father: John Wolfenden, Tailor
Witness: Abram. Jackson; Robert Jackson
Married by: J. Fallowfield
Register: Marriages 1837 - 1838, Page 137, Entry 410
Source: LDS Film 1656120

1841 - living with the NEWTON family with wife Ann and dau Hannah. Jesse has ' County Police' as occupation
Address: Astley Green, Leigh, Astley
County: Lancashire
....

Maybe Thomas W went to the US or NZ first and then came to Australia- maybe something like that - or- there is a huge Typo in his name...have found that before. But anyway, I think from looking at the censuses, he left England between 1851 and 1861
.................

Name: Emma Ellen Rosy
Age: 13
Birth Year: abt 1846
Place of Origin: London
Sponsor Name: Raymond Co
Deposit Date: 13 Jul 1859
came as a maid to Mrs Emma TYRELL aged 31 who arrived with 4 young children..a note says they were to be sent to Moreton Bay ( maybe sick?)..2 names given for references Rev W BAISLEY and Dr ROBINSON both of Poplar London. Emma ROSEY was to have 4 quid refunded to her

Still nothing on Thomas though!

Jocelyn


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