No I am only in contact with my immediate family, my mum and uncle are coming up this weekend. I need to confirm a couple things with them but if Charles B. Wiggins is my great grandfather as I suspect he is then I am definately related to John as he is Charles father. I will let you know how it pans out. Can you tell me more about the NZ connection? I had no idea we had any family there or that John had spent time there. Also do you happen to know the name of John's father and mother? as this is confusing me.