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Re: 1875 Census

peder27 — 2013-05-27 14:59:34Z

christian Johansen's son Ole immmigrated to USA 1886?

ancestry 1910 census had the immigration date wrong.
also this link to ancestry led me wrong
http://records.ancestry.com/Christian_Johansen_Gangestad_rec...

Re: census or birth look up -

peder27 — 2013-05-27 14:53:58Z

thank you Brian.

Re: census or birth look up -

BrianGaber — 2013-05-27 14:02:01Z

The emigration record is not correct. The 1875 census I already posted shows that Christian Gangestad was living at Foss Vestre with his wife and children at the time. The emigration record is for a man born 1828 - Christian Johansen Gangestad was born in 1822.

Death #37
Died 16 Sep 1883
Buried 2 Sep 1883
Kristian Johansen Gangestad
61 years old
last residence: Foss

Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Skjeberg, Ministerialbok nr. I 8 (1869-1885), Døde og begravede 1883, side 378.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=439&id...

Re: census or birth look up -

peder27 — 2013-05-27 11:19:16Z

I have been looking in various counties of Ostfold for Christian's death record. need help locating that.
? foss

Christian Johansen Gangestad
Born in Ullerøy on 1826. Christian Johansen married Anne Bolette Erichsen and had 8 children. He passed away on 16 Sep 1883 in Foss.
http://records.ancestry.com/Christian_Johansen_Gangestad_rec...
Christian Johansen Gangestad born Sept 3 1822 #48 died Sept 16 1883 Foss Vestre Ostfold
Source information: Østfold county, Skjeberg, Parish register (official) nr. I 4 (1815-1830), Birth and baptism records 1822-1823, page 74.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7439&i...
Father-Johan Johansen

Gangestad (gangstad) farm in Ullero parish, Skjeberg Ostfold Norway

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbas...
? correct emgigration

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Re: census or birth look up -

peder27 — 2013-05-26 03:40:39Z

and now I found the 1865 census.
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&...

Re: 1875 Census

peder27 — 2013-05-26 03:34:08Z

thank you Brian.
ancestry 1910 census had the immigration date wrong.
also this link to ancestry led me wrong
http://records.ancestry.com/Christian_Johansen_Gangestad_rec...

1875 Census

BrianGaber — 2013-05-25 19:02:02Z

Have you seen this?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/SP9P-BC4

There is a Christian Gangestad (Born 1822) living in Humbolt County, Iowa in the 1900 - but it is not the same Christian Gangestad in Iowa emigrated in 1872.

Birth record

BrianGaber — 2013-05-25 18:45:45Z

How could he emigrate to America in 1886 if he died in Foss on 16 Sep 1883?

He was born in 1822, Looks like 13 Oct 1822:

Confirmation #3, Christian Johansen Gangestad

Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Skjeberg, Ministerialbok nr. I 5 (1830-1845), Konfirmerte 1838, side 184.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7440&i...

13 Oct is his baptism date. His birth date is 3 Sep 1822

Birth #48

Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Skjeberg, Ministerialbok nr. I 4 (1815-1830), Fødte og døpte 1822-1823, side 74.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7439&i...

Re: census or birth look up -

peder27 — 2013-05-25 14:52:34Z

I w ant to find his birth record and possibly a marriage record. according to ancestry he immigrated to USA 1886.

Re: census or birth look up -

BrianGaber — 2013-05-25 13:21:12Z

Those things happen.... no problem.

Are you looking for anything special now? You seem to already have his birth, death, and children.

Re: census or birth look up -

peder27 — 2013-05-25 10:01:29Z

I was following the wrong family .sorry that you spent much time .

Re: census or birth look up -

BrianGaber — 2013-05-25 05:59:08Z

I don't see the connection between Christian Johansen Gangestad and the others. What exactly are you looking for?

Brian

Re: census or birth look up -

peder27 — 2013-05-24 21:08:37Z

I tend to think this maybe the correct person that I need to find.

Christian Johansen Gangestad (1826 - 1883)
Born in Ullerøy on 1826. Christian Johansen married Anne Bolette Erichsen and had 8 children. He passed away on 16 Sep 1883 in Foss.
source ancestry

Re: Anne Bolette Andersdatter

peder27 — 2013-05-24 20:40:54Z

you got all bases covered. thanks brian. as always you do good work . much appreciated.

Anne Bolette Andersdatter

BrianGaber — 2013-05-24 17:25:39Z

Confirmation #14

Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Skjeberg, Ministerialbok nr. I 6 (1846-1858), Konfirmerte 1851, side 324.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=437&id...

Birth #109

Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Skjeberg, Ministerialbok nr. I 5 (1830-1845), Fødte og døpte 1835, side 57.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7440&i...

Birth of Christen Hansen

BrianGaber — 2013-05-24 17:19:07Z

This looks like the birth record for Christen:

#65

Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Skjeberg, Ministerialbok nr. I 5 (1830-1845), Fødte og døpte 1834, side 44.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7440&i...

Marriage

BrianGaber — 2013-05-24 16:49:41Z

#2
Married 5 Mar 1858

Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Skjeberg, Ministerialbok nr. I 6 (1846-1858), Ekteviede 1858, side 439.

1865 Census

BrianGaber — 2013-05-24 16:36:32Z

I think you mean #92.......

1865 Census

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&am...

census or birth look up -

peder27 — 2013-05-24 15:29:22Z

would like to find census for parents or birth record of Bernhards parents

Son Bernhard born nov 5 1864 #32
Source information: Østfold county, Skjeberg, Parish register (official) nr. I 7 (1859-1868), Birth and baptism records 1864, page 46.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=438&id...

Re: Healey/ Ernestine, Fredrikstad

bdscheib — 2013-05-19 08:17:19Z

Thank you for your replies. The checks you have done are very much appreciated.

Unfortunately we know nothing beyond what I have already stated, no dates or other useful information.
There is an old family story about a sailor being put ashore due to a broken leg, which may relate to the Norway connection, and I agree the names if any are actually of Norwegian origin are probably anglicized.

Re: Healey/ Ernestine, Fredrikstad

kmsolie — 2013-05-19 03:36:11Z

Doing a quick check in/near Fredrikstad and port cities and anywhere in Norway there is no one with last name Healey in 1865 census which would indicate to me that they probably had already left Norway. Also in Norway it would be Hanna most likely and if they moved to Ireland it was probably Anglicized than to the Hannah that you have. I also checked Family Search and found no record of him between 1856-1860 so if he wasn't christened there it might be hard to find him, or his mother if she was indeed Norwegian or from Fredrikstad.

Re: Healey/ Ernestine, Fredrikstad

kmsolie — 2013-05-19 03:19:47Z

any clues as to Hannah' patronymic name? Lots of people said they came from Fredrikstad when in reality it was someplace nearby. Do you believe he was christened in the church and do you have a birth date or any sort of record of the date. Do you know Hannah's year of birth

Healey/ Ernestine, Fredrikstad

bdscheib — 2013-05-19 01:26:14Z

Looking for anything to help find record of my Great Grandfather William Henry Healey who states on records here in New Zealand that he was born in Fredrikstad Norway.
He would have been born around 1858 and he said his father was a seaman or sea captain named Henry Ernest Healey, and that his mothers name was Hannah Ernestine.

We dont believe his father was Norweigen, possibly Irish. But Hannah may be Norweigen. William was apparently brought up in Ireland.

Re: Family in Fredrikstad

kmsolie — 2013-05-08 19:33:41Z

Peder Olsen's christen
born 30 Mar 2844 ch 28 Apr 1844 father Ole Christiansen (Kristiansen) mother Marie Pedersdatter
#41 on left in Rakkestad
Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Rakkestad, Ministerialbok nr. I 8 (1842-1849), Fødte og døpte 1844, side 61-62.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=405&id...

probably Peders parents in 1865 census
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&am...

probably Peder in 1865 census
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&am...

Later I will see if I can find Peder's death between 1891 & 1900 but not sure where to look for it.

Re: Family in Fredrikstad

kmsolie — 2013-05-08 18:13:11Z

I am in California....

Re: Family in Fredrikstad

anitaev — 2013-05-08 04:57:11Z

Thank you so very very much

Re: Family in Fredrikstad

anitaev — 2013-05-08 04:54:39Z

Where in the world are you ? :)

Re: Family in Fredrikstad

kmsolie — 2013-05-08 04:51:13Z

I will have to look for him tomorrow, too late for me tonight.

Re: Family in Fredrikstad

anitaev — 2013-05-08 04:07:12Z

my friend is asking me if it is posible to fine out more about Ole's father Peder Olsen ?

Re: Family in Fredrikstad

kmsolie — 2013-05-08 03:40:31Z

I am only going by what it said on the 1900 census I sent that said he was in Australia at the time of census and was a seaman (rather young only 15)

Re: Family in Fredrikstad

anitaev — 2013-05-08 03:35:12Z

Do you know what ship Ole was on to Australia ?

Re: Family in Fredrikstad

kmsolie — 2013-05-08 03:19:37Z

louises birth #150

Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Tune, Ministerialbok nr. 10A (1847-1852), Fødte og døpte 1850, side 73.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=454&id...

My router keeps dropping I had info from the Tune Bok about Lande where Lovise was born parents are Elias Pedersen and Maren Nielsdtr
Itt is page 574 del 2 of the Tune Gårdhistorie Tired of fighting the router

Re: Family in Fredrikstad

anitaev — 2013-05-08 02:35:57Z

she do not know how he came to Alaska but he died here

Re: Family in Fredrikstad

anitaev — 2013-05-08 02:33:16Z

We both live in Kodiak, Alaska :) she have problem finding more info about Ole Edvard's family line so all you can help us with we would be very happy

Anita

Re: Family in Fredrikstad

kmsolie — 2013-05-08 02:26:40Z

I have sent the marriage of Lovise & Elias the census with Lovise as a widow (1900) and also Ole Edvards christening from the kirke bok which is on line. Where is she getting her original information from ie the parents names and Ole's birth etc....
Anita are you in Alaska and your friend as well?

Re: Family in Fredrikstad

kmsolie — 2013-05-08 02:13:47Z

from what source is your friend getting their information? Where did Ole immigrate to?

Re: Family in Fredrikstad

anitaev — 2013-05-08 01:58:09Z

My dear friend will be so happy and love to know more if you can fine something , I am from Norway so i can help her reading if it is something in Norwegian
Anita

Re: Family in Fredrikstad

kmsolie — 2013-05-08 01:34:53Z

this would be Ole Edvards christening in 1886 in Vestre Fredrikstad
ldeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Vestre Fredrikstad, Ministerialbok nr. 2 (1878-1894), Fødte og døpte 1886, side 148.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5461&i...
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060906010334....
Born 20 Dec 1885 christened 21 March 1886 father Peder Olsen mother Lovise Eliasdatter father born 1844 mother 1850 people listed to the right are the sponsors/godparents
this is probably Lovise in 1865 census she was born in Tune Østfold the only candidate close in age. She is a servant here will look for her family
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&am...

Marriage of Peder and Lovise in Glemmen (and that record does indicate she was born in Tune (record #9 )

Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Glemmen, Ministerialbok nr. 11 (1878-1917), Ekteviede 1880, side 571.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=3446&i...
Peder was from Rakkestad born 1844 there is a farm name but cant make it out) it says she was born 1842 (they all over the map on her)
his father is Ole Kristiansen and her father is Elias Pedersen
Her range of birth would be 1842 (on marriage) to 1850 (1900 census and also the birth of Ole Edvard)
I am looking for her birth if find will send

here is family in 1900 census his father had already died and Ole Edvard was in Australia as he was a sailor/seaman
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&am...
a little young to be a seaman but perhaps he was a cabin boy or lied about age.
his father died sometime between birth of youngest daughter (born 1891) and this 1900 census

Re: Family in Fredrikstad

anitaev — 2013-05-08 01:17:43Z

he did immigrate and his wife was Laura Margaret Larsen , She was born in Kodiak and Ole did too ,Ole died 1958
We do not know if Ole had siblings , His mom was Louise Elsadotter , we think . . They all came from Fredrikstad

Re: Family in Fredrikstad

kmsolie — 2013-05-08 00:27:45Z

What more information does your friend have? Were there siblings, did he immigrate, have you found him or suspected father on a census? I would be happy to help but ALL the information s/he has will help all of us to help.

Family in Fredrikstad

anitaev — 2013-05-07 23:05:51Z

I am trying to help a friend with finding her family in Norway

I am looking for Ole Edvart Olsen, born dec 20 1885 in Fredrikstad , we think his father was Peter Olsen
Can anyone help us finding his family

Thank you

Re: John B. Johnson

EAG447 — 2013-04-11 16:05:22Z

Hi Jeff, - - -Thank you for all of your help. I entered Beathe Gulliksdatter from Skjeberg, Ostfold and up came Beathe Gulliksdatter Lose - married to John Lose - children Ludwig elive, Juie - and gustav. Evidently Beathe first married Jens Johnson from Freikshald - had children Jens (my gr. gr. grandfather), and Hans. Sometime later married John Larsen Lose - had children Ludwig, Elive Julie,and Gustav. They are all buried in Richland County, Wisconsin. Jens and Hans immigrated in about 1857, and the remainder in the 1860's. This all fits together and it was with your help mentioning Skjeberg, it enabled me to fit the pieces of the puzzle together. I am not sure whether the last three children were from Jens or from John Lose. Again thank you so much for your help. Ed Goplin

Re: John B. Johnson

jeppsonjeffery1 — 2013-03-27 21:56:50Z

I am not sure if anyone has found this for you but I will add that I looked in the Halden Parish Record to see if he entered the Parish and hopes that it would give you an age. Well I found both. Jens Johnsen appears to have been 23 in 1835. Not sure where he came from. I could not read his entry very well. I did find Beate Gullickdatter's entry. It stated February 1835 and she was married to Jens. She was 21 years old and it appeared that she came from Skjeburg. That spelling may not be right but I know there is a Parish of similar spelling. I will try to send a copy and paste of the entries in a little while. Hope that helps. Jeff Jeppson

Re: John B. Johnson

kmsolie — 2013-03-27 02:05:57Z

searching at FHS I found

Beata Gulliksson
Sweden, Baptisms, 1611-1920
birth: 05 Oct 1799
christening: 06 Oct 1799 , TORP, VASTERNORRLAND, SWEDEN
residence: 1799 Torp, Västernorrland, Sweden
parents: Gullik Mickelsson, Anna Jonsdr

It's a bit of a stretch since this is sort of central Sweden not near the Norway border by Fredrikshald but it's a possibility

Re: John B. Johnson

kmsolie — 2013-03-26 22:49:19Z

Given that John (aka Johannes Jensen) Immigrated in ca 1857 it might be a little difficult to find information about his family he was born 1836 as you mentioned and he kind of fell, as well as family, between census that are on line (1801 & 1865) Not knowing the birth place, dates or marriage place of Jens and Beate will make it a bit difficult to find information on them. Fredrikshald was more of a town vs farming area and there could be a book about the town and residents but I am not familiar with one. It is also possible that Beate and Jens came from Sweden as it is close to the border... I looked in 1801 census and found 1 Jens and not Beate (or any variations of spelling 1st and last name) and checked 1865 census but by that time both could have been deceased depending on the age when Beate gave birth to Jens. Regarding the brothers or possible brothers, Hans & Gustav, where does that info come from, were they older, younger?
Sorry not much help but he is going to be hard to trace in Norway (I did look in Fredrikshald for his confirmation and leaving records but didn't find him, could have overlooked)

Re: John B. Johnson

BrianGaber — 2013-03-26 19:15:59Z

You are correct that he was born in Frederikshald:

Birth #60

Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Halden, Ministerialbok nr. I 5 (1834-1845), Fødte og døpte menn 1836, side 24.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7426&i...

Re: John B. Johnson

thoraway — 2013-03-26 19:09:33Z

You are looking for living relatives?

Or are you looking for links to earlier generations of his family?

Sometimes people post information without any questions or clear indication of what they hope to gain just so that persons checking these message boards in the future might find that information.
We are just trying to find out the purpose of your posting.

Re: John B. Johnson

EAG447 — 2013-03-26 15:32:43Z

John Johnson immigrated to the U.S. in about 1857. He was single, but later in the U.S. married Helene Bergum. They had several children all born in the U.S. He may have had siblings Hans and Gustav who immigrated somewhat later. His parents did not immigrate. I believe that John was born in Fredrikshold. His father Jens Johnson was a master book binder and his mother was Beate Guliksdatter who were living in Fredrikshold. John Johnson fought in the U.S. Civil war in 1862 and 1863. Thank you for your help. Ed Goplin

Re: John B. Johnson

kmsolie — 2013-03-26 04:21:56Z

1st what information specifically are you looking for? Did John Johnson aka Johannes Jensen immigrate, if so when, was he married at the time, did he have children. Are you looking for info in Norway or USA. Do you know if Johannes had siblings, did his parents immigrate? Was John AKA Johannes born in Fredrikshald (now know as Halden)

John B. Johnson

EAG447 — 2013-03-26 02:21:21Z

I am seeking information on the family of my gr. gr. grandfather John Johnson - He is listed as Johannes Jensen born 13 May, 1836, baptised 22 July, 1836. His father was Jens Johnson and mother was Beate Guliksdatter. His father was a bookbinder master and citizen of the city of Fredrikshald. I am Eddie D. Goplin e-mail - edgoplin@yahoo.com - - -Ed Goplin, 2577 Erbe Road, Blue Mounds, Wisconsin, 53517 - - USA.----Thank You.