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Re: Rebekka Jonsdatter b ? d 1762 Skognes,Lenvik,Troms, Norway

larsen5014 — 2013-03-26 00:51:10Z

Actually I do know about Norwegian names, ect I did what I could do. That`s why I was asking for assistance.

You showed me Rebekka Nielsdatter died 1762. Her fathers name is Jon so she would be Rebekka Jonsdatter

I appreciate the advice
Thanks

Re: Rebekka Jonsdatter b ? d 1762 Skognes,Lenvik,Troms, Norway

thoraway — 2013-03-25 21:06:03Z

No - tradition would have meant that she NEVER used her husband's patronymic but is it always possible that someone made an error or simple mistake when they wrote in the church book.

Online study material to learn about Norwegian naming practices and patterns.

http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/na12.html
http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/names.htm
http://www.norwayheritage.com/norwegian-names.htm
http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/farms.htm

If she were born in a time period and an area where church records no longer exist then there will probably NOT be a parish record of who her parents were.

You might have to teach yourself to use old Norwegian probate records and look for her father's probate -- maybe it mentioned her.

Re: Rebekka Jonsdatter b ? d 1762 Skognes,Lenvik,Troms, Norway

larsen5014 — 2013-03-25 16:30:19Z

Thanks for the info. I don`t believe that is her. Wouldn`t she have her husbands last name when she died? I really need to find out who her parents are.
I do appreciate your help

Thanks again

Rebekka (Jonsdatter) Olsen b ? d 1762 Skognes,Lenvik,Troms, Norway

larsen5014 — 2013-03-25 14:09:33Z

Hi,
I am looking for info on the parents of Rebekka Jonsdatter.
b ? d 1762 Skognes,Lenvik,Troms,Norway.

I know that her father was Jon Nilssen b 1665 d 1742 have nothing on her mother.

She married Nils or Niels Olsen b ? d 1760 Skognes,Lenvik,Troms,Norway.

They had a children Ole Nielssen
b ? Skognes,Lenvik,Troms,Norway. d 1796 Skognes,Lenvik,Troms,Norway.

He married Aleth, or Alette Arnesdatter b 1739 Bukskinn,Lenvik,Troms,Norway d 1810 Skognes,Lenvik,Troms,Norway.

Would also like to find out if possible if Ole and Aleth had any children.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Re: Rebekka Jonsdatter b ? d 1762 Skognes,Lenvik,Troms, Norway

thoraway — 2013-03-25 00:58:46Z

The parish records for Lenvik, Troms list a Rebekka Nielsdtr as dying about the first Sunday after Epiphany in 1762. That record does not indicate her age when she died.
I didn't see any other Rebekka in years close to that.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9683&i...

Lenvik church records are available for years as early as 1753.

Re: ANDREW (ANDREAS) PETERSON of TROMSOE, NORWAY

hrn65 — 2013-03-07 10:42:01Z

Marriage of Peder Evensen and Karen Gudmundsdtr. 7 July 1859 (#6):
Kildeinformasjon: Troms fylke, Målselv i Målselv, Ministerialbok nr. 3 (1853-1863), Ekteviede 1859, side 177.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2903&i...
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20050310010815....

Here is Andrew (Andreas) and his family in the 1865 census:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbas...

Andrew's mother Karen Gudmundsdtr:

Karen Gudmundsdtr. b. 4 November 1835 (#183):
Kildeinformasjon: Oppland fylke, Gausdal, Ministerialbok nr. 6 (1830-1839), Fødte og døpte 1835-1836, side 72.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9290&i...
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070603660711....

The family leaving Gausdal for Oppdal 14 June 1851 (#27-31):
Kildeinformasjon: Oppland fylke, Gausdal, Ministerialbok nr. 8 (1850-1861), Inn- og utflyttede 1851-1852, side 432.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8940&i...
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070201620179....

Arriving Oppdal 1851 "searching for job" (#25-29):
Kildeinformasjon: Sør-Trøndelag fylke, Oppdal, Ministerialbok nr. 678A08 (1848-1872), Inn- og utflyttede 1851, side 476.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2398&i...
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20050519021455....

Andrew's father Peder Evensen:

Peder Evensen b. 22 April 1837 (#24):
Kildeinformasjon: Hedmark fylke, Åmot, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1815-1841), Fødte og døpte 1837, side 322-323.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9186&i...
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070603340666....

Peder Evensen and his parents leaving the parish 1840 for Bardudalen (Målselv)(#53-55):
Kildeinformasjon: Hedmark fylke, Åmot, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1815-1841), Utflyttede 1840, side 592-593.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9186&i...
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070603350066....

Many people migrated from Oppland and Hedmark to the Målselv area in the 18th and 19th centuries, and has formed the dialect spoken here.

Re: ANDREW (ANDREAS) PETERSON of TROMSOE, NORWAY

Akeley1950 — 2013-02-08 02:14:55Z

The last child was Andrew Einar Peterson. Have much info on him as he is my step-son's great grandfather. Will gladly share

Lee Akeley

Re: Peterson, Albert (Reginald DAUGHTER)

ReginaFred — 2013-01-06 00:34:05Z

Albert L Peterson b 13feb1878 Sweden, wife Matilda G Hamberg Peterson b 1887 Sweden
Children:
Elmer J b 27 Sep 1904 Washington d 1977
anna b 1906
emily b 1907
frank a b 1909
homer r b 1910
Reginald Vernon b 21 dec 1912 wa, d 29nov1983 wa my father
dorothy 1918
Do not have emigration date

Regina

Re: Peterson, Albert (Reginald DAUGHTER)

avipe — 2013-01-05 11:50:17Z

Hi,

do you have any more information on Albert and Matilda?
Middle names? Year of emigration/immigration? Parents names? Siblings?

Let me know and I'll have a look for them

Anna

Re: Williamson/Sanvig/Wilson line

BrianGaber — 2013-01-04 13:48:19Z

If you post info about what you already have and exactly what you are looking for, there are many researchers on this forum that can help you.

Re: Williamson/Sanvig/Wilson line

40spots — 2013-01-04 03:08:12Z

Hi,
I'm trying to find information regarding the Sanvig/Wilson line. My grandfather was George Wilson who was a dairy farmer in Ruawai and I believe his grandfather was a Sanvig, his name may have been (possibly changed to) Peter,and there was a connection with the Warkworth area.I think they may have settled in that area when they emigrated.
If you have any info I would be most interested.

Re: BOMSTAD Family in Balsfjord, Troms

johnksnell — 2012-08-09 17:48:21Z

Hi,

My mother was born Bomstead (great grand father change the spelling.

Dauther of Victor Bomstead
Son of Adolph Levi Bomstead
Son of Abraham Levi Bomstead
Son of Johan Adolph Johannessen Bomstad
Son of Johan Andreas Johannessen Bomstad
Son of Johannes Abrahamssen Bomstad

Here's a record I just found that translates to something like Fell on a ice flow and killed himself in the Norwegian Historical Data Centre:
http://www.rhd.uit.no/kirkebok/kbliste_e.aspx?kb=b&rr=10...

Peterson, Albert (Reginald DAUGHTER)

ReginaFred — 2012-07-03 17:39:44Z

Looking for information on Albert (1877 Sweden) & Matilda (1886 Sweden)Peterson and family. Elmer (27 Sept 1904), Anna (1906), Emily (1907), Frank A (1909) Homer R (1910) Reginald Vernon (21 Dec 1912 my father) and Dorothy (1918)
I was adopted when I was 16 years old by my step dad. And never knew my real father. I know he was a seabee and he was cremated Nov 30, 1983. At Mt. Olivet Crematory, Renton, Wa.

Please help
Regina Strickland
wac71298@comcast.com

Re: Peterson, Albert (Reginald son)

thoraway — 2012-07-03 14:01:46Z

If you look at the details recorded in the 1930 and 1920 US federal censuses for Albert you can get an approximate year that he immigrated to the US. (If you can find him in more censuses hopefully that time period would be substantiated.) That would seem to indicate that he came to the US as a child of 11 years or younger. So he probably came with other family members.

IF you think he sailed from Europe from a Norwegian port you can check the emigrant register databases at the Digitalarkivet website. You have some reason to think he may have come through Troms Norway?

Re: Peterson, Albert (Reginald son)

thoraway — 2012-07-03 02:07:51Z

What connection to Norway? especially Troms in Norway?

Williamson/Sanvig/Wilson line

LynneCooney77 — 2011-11-30 20:25:47Z

Message for Gary Williamsons wife - I am Garys first cousin Lynne Drummond and I live in Waitakere - my email: cooneyelectrical@ihug.co.nz and I will have information for you on the family Im sure. I read your posts and I see you live in Warkworth so if I dont hear from you may try and find you in the new year.

Re: Albert Leonhard Sandvig, Tromso, Norway.

aanegary_w — 2011-11-08 01:27:56Z

Hi,thank you for your reply. Anna Petrina was my husbands great grandmother. Would be interested to share what information we have.

Re: Parish Record Information/help

lnequin — 2011-05-13 17:27:04Z

Well, I am very sorry that you, and your superior attitude, have not been able to answer any of my questions.
Message boards are for friendly conversation. What are you doing on it!!!

Re: Parish Record Information/help

thoraway — 2011-05-13 01:10:18Z

We obviously do not see the same things at all on the same page. Also our experiences in using old Norwegian documents are obviously completely different.

I see no female names in that list of introductions on page 15.
I see no Peder Olsen either.

I do see the marks of witnesses on the same type of record of parish event where I've seen the same in other areas of Norway.

I wish you good luck.

Re: Parish Record Information/help

lnequin — 2011-05-12 20:52:11Z

No, it is not introducing the fathers but the introductions have male and female names. I have read that home baptism did take place and it was often not repeated in the church They must have kept a record of the home baptism in order to have the Confirmation conferred and they had to be confirmed to be married.
I don't read much Norwegian but does it say "Peder Olsens Mother" or "the mother of Peder Olsen? Once in awhile, the father and the mother are both recorded for the baptism but not often in these early records. Would a home baptism be a record like the baptisms but without sponsors/witnesses?
This Parish Record is different from others that I have read. Witnesses actually sign the book. Although not able to write, they did affix their initials next to their written name.

Re: Parish Record Information/help

thoraway — 2011-05-12 14:20:06Z

Those are not introductions of the fathers. Those are introductions of the mothers where they are just not named -- like saying 'Peter Iverson's wife' rather than her name. The mother didn't appear to be named in the baptismal listing either for the few pages there that I looked through. I've seen that in many parts of Norway in very very early years.

A home baptism was usually recorded in parish records but just at a slightly later date and the sacrament probably re-done in the church then too. I know that was the case in later years and in other areas. I don't know if this parish noted a previous home baptism in that time period.

Re: Parish Record Information/help

lnequin — 2011-05-12 13:49:53Z

All of the names connected with the Aasel/Isac introduction are male names.This is not the only intro with male names. I have also seen the mother introductions. They happen about 6 weeks after the birth. What did they do when there was a home baptism. In that climate, they surely could not get to church at certain times, attested by the communion numbers. The church baptisms are in the same format as most of the churches. The mothers name is omitted in these earlier records. This is the first time I have come across male introductions but this is also the farthest north I have researched.

Re: Parish Record Information/help

thoraway — 2011-05-12 12:46:39Z

In that list of men's wives being introduced back to the congregation there are a few legible names. An introduction almost always took place AFTER the baptism and if you look at the earlier page(s) of that same record book at least two of the fathers are fairly clearly listed and the child's name is given in those baptismal records and the names of the witnesses for that event.

The handwriting is difficult but you should probably feel lucky that records that early exist at all.

Re: Parish Record Information/help

thoraway — 2011-05-12 10:13:55Z

I don't know how to get a list of farm names. I just used the 1801 census database at the Digitalarkivet and utilized the search functions of "starts with", "contains", etc. to search for any minor spelling limiter I could discern in the farm names as scrawled on that page.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/DigitalArchives.htm...

I disagree. I see no reason to think these are other than standard Introductions for these men's wives. I did't read anything there that made me think the children were baptized at home. If it isn't indicated -- I don't assume such.

The LDS Family History Library online catalog indicates the existence of at least two different published book sets of history/genealogy for the Trondenes area -- perhaps you can extract a farm list from those.
https://www.familysearch.org/#form=catalog
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/bygdebok.html

Re: Parish Record Information/help

lnequin — 2011-05-12 01:18:56Z

Could you please tell me how to get a list of farm names.

These "introductions" are obviously not the reintroduction of mothers after having given birth. Are these children who have been baptized at home?

Re: Parish Record Information/help

thoraway — 2011-05-11 22:26:21Z

I read the word after Introduc... as Isack, not Aasel.

The words you are calling towns appear to be local farm names. I compared to the farm names for that district in the 1801 and most were fairly good matches when you think "sounds like".

Re: Parish Record Information/help

lnequin — 2011-05-11 17:32:20Z

Source information: Troms county, Trondenes, Parish register (official) nr. 1 (1744-1777), Chronological list 1745, page 15. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9639&i...=

Aasel is on the left side, 5 lines from the bottom

Re: Parish Record Information/help

thoraway — 2011-05-11 10:56:17Z

Please post the Permanent pagelink instead.

Where on those two pages you've linked above do you see anyone named Aasel?

Parish Record Information/help

lnequin — 2011-05-11 02:26:27Z

I believe that I have found the Trondenes Parish Christening Record of Aasel Olsdatter, born 1745. The Parish Record lists it as an "introduction" but the entry has all the markings of a baptism. The 1841 census also puts Aasel's birth at 1746. If someone could please do a little translating and clarify the names of the towns for me, that would help a lot. Also, is it possible to tell which of the people at the christening are the god parents?
Thank you for any help you can give.
Lynn
Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070601630380....

Re: Rotvik emigration to America

BrianGaber — 2011-04-12 18:32:56Z

They arrived in Boston on 30 August 1906 aboard the
ship "Ivernia". The ship left Liverpool on 21 August 1906.

Page 234

Joegensen, Maria, Group N - #5

Page 241

Rotvik, Peter, Group N - #2
Rotvik, Bendika, Group N - #3
Rotvik, Arne, Group N - #4

The list is in alphabetical order. The "Ivernia" sailed from Liverpool to Boston.

Re: Rotvik emigration to America

BrianGaber — 2011-04-12 17:51:59Z

Copy of passenger list:

Re: Rotvik emigration to America

BrianGaber — 2011-04-12 17:28:59Z

Hi,

The group registered to leave Trondheim for Boston on
15 August 1906. They used the names:

Peter Ansgar Røtvik
Bendikte Røtvik
Arne Røtvik
Marie H. Jørgensen

They were aboard the ship "Tasso". This ship probably went to Liverpool or Hull, England. A different ship would make the trip to America.

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&am...

Rotvik emigration to America

finnwegian — 2011-04-12 14:51:55Z

My grandmother Marie Henriette (born 6-29-1882 in Ibested, Salangen) and her brother Peder Anskar (born 1878), his wife Benta and son Arnold (born 1905)emigrated together and used the last name Rotvik (sometimes spelled Rotvig in America). We have a lot of information on them in America and US census data says that they came to America in 1906.

Marie and Peter's father was Anton Kristian Jorgensen who lived at Rotvik and Marie and Peter sometimes show up as Jorgensen or Antonsen on some of the Norwegian records. I have received excellent records from a family member in Norway and found a lot more records on my own, but I am missing this emigration record.

I am looking for the record of when they left Norway. I would like to know the dates and the name of the ship and port of entry. I don't know what I am doing wrong. Maybe they went to a Canadian port - I don't have access to that.

I already found the record of Marie's second trip from Norway to America in 1913.

Thanks for any help.

Re: Albert Leonhard Sandvig, Tromso, Norway.

LynneCooney77 — 2011-04-08 09:00:53Z

Alberts sister Anna Petrina came to NZ with her parents in 1874 - she is my great great grandmother.
Cant help with him but have NZ line.

Re: Johan Carl Andresen Lindberg

BrianGaber — 2010-12-31 18:52:21Z

Yes, that's the place.

Re: Johan Carl Andresen Lindberg

LGooding184 — 2010-12-31 17:23:11Z

Thanks again for all of this great information. Is the farm that I saw on the map in Linberget- the farm or area that they may have grown up on?

Re: Johan Carl Andresen Lindberg

BrianGaber — 2010-12-31 05:36:59Z

Here is a map for you. "Linberget" is the present name of "Lindberget". To the north you can also see Grønjord. If you zoom in closer, just north of Linberget you can see indre Straumen, the present name for "indre Strømmen".

You can click on "Flyfoto" for satellite pictures.

http://kart.finn.no/?lng=18.30359&lat=69.34503&tab=s...

Re: Johan Carl Andresen Lindberg

BrianGaber — 2010-12-31 05:16:05Z

Here is the marriage record for Andreas Pedersen. Too bad it doesn't show the parents of the bride and groom.

9 November 1793
Andreas Pedersen, bachelor from Strømmen
Maiden Martha Erichsdatter

Best men: Hans Hansen and Nils Larsen from Strømmen

Banns posted: 22nd, 23rd, 24th Sundays

Marriage: 10 November 1793 in Lenvik Church

Tope record on page,I can't figure out what it says after Erichsdatter.

Kildeinformasjon: Troms fylke, Lenvik, Ministerialbok nr. 2 (1784-1820), Ekteviede 1793-1795, side 186.

Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9684&i...

Re: Johan Carl Andresen Lindberg

BrianGaber — 2010-12-31 04:50:12Z

The Erich Larsen living at Strømmen in 1801 did not have children born there before 1775, so if he is the father of Martha Erichsdatter, she was born elsewhere and they didn't arrive at Strømmen until about 1775.

Re: Johan Carl Andresen Lindberg

BrianGaber — 2010-12-31 04:41:46Z

Oops, here is the link:

http://www.digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbas...

Re: Johan Carl Andresen Lindberg

BrianGaber — 2010-12-31 04:40:27Z

Yes, Strømmen is also in Lenvik. Here is a link to the 1801 census for Strømmen. The family living there could very well be the parents of Martha Erichsdatter, but this
needs to be confirmed.

Brian

Re: Johan Carl Andresen Lindberg

LGooding184 — 2010-12-31 01:12:19Z

I saw that the 1st 2 children were born in Strommen - do you know if that is also in Lenvik?

Re: Johan Carl Andresen Lindberg

LGooding184 — 2010-12-31 00:33:36Z

This is very exciting. Thank you! I found all of the 9 children and I am assuming that the 1st Andreas died.

Thanks!!

Re: Johan Carl Andresen Lindberg

BrianGaber — 2010-12-30 19:11:21Z

This page will show you the baptisms of the 9 children of Andreas Pedersen and Martha Erichsdatter.

http://www.digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbas...

Re: Johan Carl Andresen Lindberg

BrianGaber — 2010-12-30 19:06:06Z

Here is the census for Kragnæs for 1801. Andreas Pedersen and family start at #255:

http://www.digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbas...

Re: Johan Carl Andresen Lindberg

BrianGaber — 2010-12-30 18:57:10Z

Here is the baptism record for Andreas Andreasen, baptized at Lenvik 24 July 1808. The exact day of birth is not recorded. He was born at Kragnæs, son of Andreas Pedersen and Marta Erichsdatter.

4th entry from the top:

Kildeinformasjon: Troms fylke, Lenvik, Ministerialbok nr. 2 (1784-1820), Fødte og døpte 1808, side 87.

Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9684&i...

Re: Johan Carl Andresen Lindberg

BrianGaber — 2010-12-30 18:44:32Z

The parish is also located in Troms. The spelling has varied over the years:

1801 = Tronøe
1865 = Tronø
1875 = Tronøy

(in old records the letter "ø" was written as "ö")

Re: Johan Carl Andresen Lindberg

BrianGaber — 2010-12-30 18:30:40Z

Here is the marriage record for Andreas Andreasen:

#7

1 October 1839

Bachelor Andreas Andreasen, 30 yrs, born Kragnæs,
son of Andreas Pedersen

Maiden Kirstin Marie Johnsdatter, 20 yrs, born Tranø,
daughter of John Johnsen

Best men: Thomas Andreasen from Kragnæs, Johan P. Larsen from Lindberg

Kildeinformasjon: Troms fylke, Lenvik, Ministerialbok nr. 4 (1832-1844), Ekteviede 1839, side 159.

Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9686&i...

Re: Johan Carl Andresen Lindberg

LGooding184 — 2010-12-30 17:21:17Z

I have a question. Kristine Margrethe Johnsdatter was born in Tranø Sogn og Præstegjeld - where is that in Norway?

Thanks

Re: Johan Carl Andresen Lindberg

LGooding184 — 2010-12-30 16:37:59Z

Thank you very very much. This has been very helpful. I cant wait to tell all my relatives about this. My mother's name was Lindberg and we weren't sure how she had acquired that last name.

Thanks!!!!