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Re: GJESTVANG

Posted: 21 Jun 2007 10:09AM GMT
Classification: Query
The only Gjestvang farms I find on the 1886 farm index area Gjestvang Indre, and Gjestvang Ovre, both in Nes parish in Hedmark Norway, which is in eastern Norway, north of Oslo just a bit.



ON the emigration lists from Oslo is where they would probably be found.

I did find an Eline Gjestvang, emigrating.

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbas...


192250 Oslo 1907 02.05.1907 03.05.1907 Eline Alma Gjestvang k ug hj. 30.05.82 Nes, Hedem. New York Lie Hellig Olav

Registering to leave on May 2, 1907, and leaving Oslo on May 3, 1907, Eline Alma Gjestvang, female, unmarried, housekeeper, born May 30, 1882 in Nes, Hedemarken, Hedmark, Norway. Going to New York, on the ship Hellig Olav (St. Olaf.)
But the Ellis Island records say she is going to her sister Mrs. Inga Gjestvang, in New York. Not a good match I guess.

Searching the 1865 census online, I found a Vilhelm, born in Nes/Næs in Hedmark (the origin of the Gjestvang farm) and the siblings match most of the names you have.

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&...

Census year: 1865
Municipality: Næs
Municipality number: 0411
Name of domicile: Linrud
Number of persons in this domicile: 9

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Name Family status Marital status Occupation Birth year Place of birth Ethnicity
Parents:
Lars Olsen Husfader g Skrædder 1816 Næs (a tailor)
Oline Marie Larsdatter hans Kone g 1821 Næs (his wife)
Children:
Oline Larsdatter deres Datter ug 1850 Næs
Olava Larsdatter deres Datter ug 1857 Næs
Hans Larsen deres Søn ug 1853 Næs
Vilhelm Larsen deres Søn ug 1855 Næs
Martinius Larsen deres Søn ug 1861 Næs
Ludvig Larsen deres Søn ug 1864 Næs

Morten Levordsen f Lægdslem 1825 (a renter)

The kids Oline, Olava, Hans, and Vilhelm match those that you said came to America. Martinius and Ludvig could have died young, it is possible to find that out from parish records.

The parish matches.

You will have lots of verification to do, in Næs/Nes records, but these two men leaving Norway look to me like they are possibly Wilhelm and Hans - the brothers from the census of 1865 - leaving Norway from Oslo.
They are not using the farm name Gjestvang. But the ages are correct, they match the 1865 census boys in age.

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbas...


30275 1881 366 4 2023a 1 27.04.1881 29.04.1881 Wilhelm Lars. Kise g Arb m 26 Næs Hedem New York F. E. Blichfeldt Rollo 228 20 T. Mostue

(registering to leave Oslo on April 27, 1881, leaving on April 29, 1881, Wilhelm Larsen Kise, married, worker, male, age 26, from Næs in Hedemarken (Hedmark) Going to New York. The F.E. Blichfeldt shipping line, the ship Rollo.)

30276 1881 366 5 2023b 27.04.1881 29.04.1881 Hans Lars. Kise Arb m 28 Næs Hedem New York F. E. Blichfeldt Rollo T. Mostue.

(same as his brother, only it shows that Hans Lars. Kise is 28 years old. This is the right age difference for the brothers on the 1865 census.)

Now I have a theory about the sister Eline - it would be Larsdatter if she is sister to the family on the 1865 census at Linrud farm. I think she is older - born in 1847 or thereabouts. There is a hired girl living on another farm in Næs that is Eline Larsdatter, b. 1847 on the 1865 census. Then there is an Eline Larsdatter, b. 1847, on the 1900 census, living at Linrud farm with her husband. Same Eline? Very possibly. Same farm as the family was on in 1865? Possibly.

Eline Larsdatter b. 1847 in the 1865 census:

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&...

Census year: 1865
Municipality: Næs
Municipality number: 0411
Name of domicile: Aske mellem
Number of persons in this domicile: 8

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Name Family status Marital status Occupation Birth year Place of birth Ethnicity
Magnus Frantsen Husfader g Gaardbruger og Selveier 1795 Næs Prgj.
Maria Eriksdatter hans Kone g 1805 Næs Prgj.
Frants M. O. Andreasen Dattersøn ug 1855 Næs Prgj.
Kristian Frantsen Brugerens Broder ug 1806 Næs Prgj.
Matthias Jensen ug Tjenestekarl 1847 Næs Prgj.
Eline Larsdatter ug Tjenestepige 1847 Næs Prgj.
Ragnhild Mortensdatter ug Legdslem 1806 Næs Prgj.
Beret Thoresdatter ug Kvægerøgter 1843



Eline Larsdatter born 1847 on the 1900 census AND her mother is living with them, the 1865 census has mom's name as Oline Marie Larsdatter, b. 1821, but the 1900 census shows the mother of Eline to be
Anne Marie Larsdatter, b. 1821.

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1900&...

Census year: 1900
Municipality: Nes
Municipality number: 0411
Name of domicile: Linrud
Number of persons in this domicile: 9

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Name Family status Marital status Occupation Birth year Place of birth Ethnicity
Husband and wife:
Matias Johannesen hf g Jordbrugsarb. Skinfelmager 1850 Ringsaker Hed
Eline Larsdatter hm g Husstel 1847 Nes Hed

Their kids:
Matias Matiassen s ug Gaardsarbeider 1882 Nes Hed
Einar Matiassen s ug 1888 Nes Hed
Olava Matiassen d ug 1894 Nes Hed

Two foster sons:
Matinus Berntsen Pleiesøn ug offentlig Forsørg 1896 Nes Hed
Einar Ottosen Pleiesøn ug off. Forsorg 1899.08.05 Nes Hed

Grandma: (mother-in-law to Mathias)
Anne Marie Larsdatter Svigermoder e Husstel 1821 Nes Hed

Some worker, machinist, lumberjack guy:
Johan Eriksen el s Maskinist ved Damptærskev. Tømmermand 1868 Nes Hed

On the 1900 census there is only on Lise Larsdatter that would fit into this family birth and age-wise. She is at a farm called Intno.

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1900&...

Census year: 1900
Municipality: Nes
Municipality number: 0411
Name of domicile: Intno
Number of persons in this domicile: 3

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Name Family status Marital status Occupation Birth year Place of birth Ethnicity
Lise Larsdatter el ug Hus-, Gaardsarbeide 1845 Nes Hed
Syverine Andersdatter el ug Kvægrøgt 1851 Veldre Hed
Gønner Nilsdatter d ug Skolebarn 1887 Nes Hed


I did a search at familysearch.org for Vilhelm Larsen, b. 1855 in Norway, and found a listing for this one from Næs. He was born in late 1855, but baptised the 06 JAN 1856 Nes, Hedmark, Norway

His parents are shown as Lars Olsen and Anna Maria Larsdatter. That verifies another piece for me, that Anne Maria is the mother's correct name, (census was wrong online somehow in 1865) and that her kids were named Eline, Hans, Vilhelm, Olava, Oline

I did find a Lise Larsen for this same couple, Lars Olsen and Anna Maria Larsdatter, Lise born in 1845.

I also found at familysearch.org, a marriage for Vilhelm Larsen, with the father Lars Olsen, from Nes, Hedmark, to Lisabet Syversdatter on the 20 JAN 1877 Nes, Hedmark, Norway

It says that Lisabet's dad is Syver Johnson, and Lisabet born in 1854.








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