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Cecelia TENÖVER

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Re: Cecelia TENÖVER/Hertzenberg

Posted: 1 Mar 2013 1:09PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Dean and Bob,

16 birth records, 7 death records and 2 marriage records later, here we are!

Hendrikus Hertsenberg, shoe maker
Born Zwolle 18 nov 1830 at 10.00 hrs
Son of Teunis Hertsenberg (oil miller) and Aaltje Roseboom
Married Avereest 18 Jan 1855 to:
Berendina ter Ried (formerly known as Berendina Kortroelf)
Born Ambt Ommen 29 jan 1833 at 17.00 hrs as Berendina Kortroelof
Daughter of Hendrika ter Ried and Hendrikus Kortroelof (wrongly listed as being the father on the birth record, see later comments)

Children:
1) Anthonius Hendrikus Kortroelf (male)
Born Avereest 06 Oct 1852 at 18.00 hrs
Died Avereest 01 Jan 1853 at 15.00 hrs (last name registered as Kortvoelt)
In the population register 1850 – 1859 he is listed as Antonius Hendrikus Hertsenberg,
Son of Hendrikus Hertsenberg and Berendina Kortroelf (later named te Ried)
http://www.hidaba.nl/

2) Hendrika Alida Hertsenberg (female), born Kortroelf, acknowledged at marriage parents
Born Avereest 30 Dec 1853 at 11.00 hrs
Married den Ham 11 Apr 1877 to:
Leonardus Johannes Rientjes (laborer)
Born Slagharen 08 mar 1853 at 05.00 hrs
Son of Johannes Rientjes and Hendrika Rientjes

3) Alexander Anthonij Hendrikus Hertsenberg (male)
Born Avereest 11 Dec 1856 at 11.00 hrs
Died Avereest 10 Nov 1859 at 11.00 hrs

4) Hendrikus Hertsenberg (male)
Born Avereest 04 Sep 1859 at 16.00 hrs

5) Albertus Hertsenberg (male)
Born Avereest 14 Oct 1861 at 19.00 hrs
Died Vroomshoop (mun. Den Ham) 20 Dec 1871 at 06.00 hrs

6) Arnoldus Frederikus Antonius Hertsenberg (male)
Born den Ham 12 June 1864 at 17.00 hrs
Died Vroomshoop 27 May 1865 at 08.00 hrs

7) Arnoldus Frederikus Hertsenberg (male)
Born Vroomshoop (den Ham) 12 Mar 1866 at 07.30 hrs

8) Bernardus Hertsenberg (male)
Born Vroomshoop 08 May 1868 at 03.00 hrs
Died Vroomshoop 22 May 1868 at 12.00 hrs

9) Bernardus Gerard Hertsenberg (male)
Born Vroomshoop 01 Sep 1869 at 22.30 hrs
Died Vroomshoop 05 Sep 1871 at 11.00 hrs

10) Margaretha Hertsenberg (female)
Born Vroomshoop 27 Dec 1870 at 03.00 hrs
Died Vroomshoop 01 Apr 1871 at 15.00 hrs

11) Alberdina Hertsenberg (female)
Born 03 Oct 1872 at 19.00 hrs

12) Albertus Hertsenberg (male)
Born Vroomshoop 08 Aug 1874 at 18.00 hrs

13) Frederikus Arnoldus Hertsenberg (male)
Born Vroomshoop 13 July 1876 at 01.30 hrs


As to the confusion of the last names of Kortroelof and ter Ried:
The birth of Berendina was declared at the civil registry by Hendrikus Kortroelof and mom Hendrika ter Reet was listed as his wife.
It is also listed that Hendrikus was not able to write (and therefore most likely couldn’t read)

However, by order of the court in Deventer on 20 Sep 1854 there was a change;
First: the words “his wife” were not considered accurate and should be considered as not written.
Second: the last name of “ter Reet” should be changed to “ter Ried”.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-11512-11773-8?cc=...

So most probably Hendrikus Kortroelof just declared the birth of Berendina, he was not married to Hendrika ter Ried. Therefore Berendina was not allowed to use the last name of Kortroel(o)f, but instead had to use het mother’s last name, ter Ried.
But since the court order was not issued untill 1854, her children born prior to that date were still registered as Kortroelf.

So there are 6 surviving children, who most probably all went to the USA.

I still believe that Arnoldus Frederikus 1866 is the same person as Ernest.

Look forward to hearing from you both...

Marianne
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