I started a new thread so my info wasn't getting mixed up with the other persons. As it seams you hot us mixed up. My grandma Johanna always lived in the Netherlands. I knew her first and maiden name. From the info I got from Jan I found out middle names. I was born in US in 1978. my father was born in the Netherlands in 1938. I lived with my dad in the states till he died in 1992. I see the info in your post looks like a marriage something between my grandparents but again I don't know Dutch so I forwarded it to a friend do she can help me. I looked at the site you sent the link for but again not knowing Dutch I can't use it. I hope that makes things more clear.