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Help with Diplomatic Records - W. E. Godman / Guatemala

Yaquifox — 12 Oct 2008 9:46:58 GMT

I have posted this previously, in 2004. The single response I received was rather unhelpful. I am very serious in my request for assistance, but am not looking for a "professional" research service - only good neighborly help from other researchers that believe that the good they do for others will come back to them. I am providing very specific places to look, so there will be no wasted efforts. Here is my inquiry:

I am looking for someone that can access some materials at the Netherlands Nationaal Archief, in The Hague.

I have the following information regarding my subject of research:

My great grandfather, William Elmer Godman (W. E. Godman), was a Netherlands Vice-Consul for Guatemala from the years 1921 to 1934. He was appointed Vice-Consul on 14 September 1921. He was also Consul-Agent for Costa Rica while at this post. The Vice-Consulate was located in Puerto Barrios, Guatemala. The
Consulate was closed after W. E. Godman's death on 6 July 1934.

I am looking for any materials that might have been written by him, or to him during this period of time. All "correspondence" would have been in English (according to the records I already have). However, some records may be in Dutch. These are also welcome. I have already searched the books of Onbezoldigde Consulaire Ambtenaren held by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and this is where I obtained the details of the Consulate, including appointment date of service, and the record of my great-grandfather's death.

Materials in the Nationaal Archief that MIGHT have what I am looking for are:

In 1930 the Dutch consulate in Mexico represented Guatemala. The Nationaal Archief holds the archive of the Dutch envoyship in Mexico 1922-1933.(number inventory 2.05.33) In the inventory are a few references to records concerning Guatemala.

There is also a very remote chance that records on Guatemala are to be found in:

*The archive of the Ministry of Foreign affairs B dossiers (number inventory: 2.05.38)
*The archive of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Kabinetsarchief getreffende de politieke rapportage door nederlandse diplomatieke vertegenwoordigers in het buitenland. (1871-1940) (number inventory 2.05.19)

The consulate of Guatemala for the years 1853-1906 (number inventory: 2.05.14.14) But these are NOT the years I am interested in. My great-grandfather was not there during these years.

I would appreciate any help that someone in the Netherlands may be able to offer.

Thank you so very much for your kind assistance.

Jon Fox
Dayton, Nevada
U.S.A.

Gielens Family Look Up.

lafalot3_1 — 12 Oct 2008 12:44:46 GMT

Looking for any information on Henry Gielens B. 1843 in Prussia and his Wife Theresa Wellinghoff B. 1846 in Hanover.

Looking Birth,Marriage and there parents and any other ancesters. They emmigrated to the USA in 1868 with there son also Henry Gielens B.1867 in Furstenau Germany. My Father always said that they came from the Netherlands not Germany but hoping someone can send me in the right direction.

Thanks a lot
Cathy

reverend father gerard van hooff

grendav2001 — 10 Oct 2008 12:53:26 GMT

northern daily mail
hartlepool
england
04 february 1915

van hooff
on the 2cnd inst, at carlisle, the reverend gerard van hooff. to be interred at hartlepool old cemetery on friday, 5th february. solemn requiem mass in st mary's church, hartlepool, at 11am.

11 october 1915

the late father van hooff.

there has been erected at hartlepool old cemetery a memorial to the late father van hooff, which takes the form of a latin cross of marble upon three bases, surrounded by a kerb of the same material. the cross has quatre foil panel carved with a chalice and vine leaves, and the base bears the following inscription: 'of your charity pray for the repose of the soul of the reverend gerard van hooff, for twenty years priest at st mary's church, hartlepool, who died at carlisle in the feast of our lady's purification, february 2cnd, 1915, aged 62 years. r.i.p. vivas cum jesu'. the memorial has been subscribed for by father van hooff's former parishioners of hartlepool and his many friends.

Van Tien Research

Mary Nell Snoddy — 1 May 2000 12:00:00 GMT

Am looking for information on Johann Wilhelm Van Tien who was born in Holland about 1846. He emigrated to America and was naturalized in Cleveland, OH in 1860s. Can anyone help me with this family? Thanks in advance.

Cornielius Houghton or Van Houten, b. 1820

Michael houghton — 24 May 2006 10:16:30 GMT

I have traced my ancestors emigration to the U.S. from the Netherlands to 1868. I can not find any info on where in Holland they were from. I heard stories that their name was changed from Van Houten or Van Hooten, but can't document that. Any suggestions on tracking down where they lived?

Cornelius Hougton, b.1820
Spouse: Catherine, b. 1822

Thanks

HARM,J ZENTENHORST

dvande7647 — 4 Oct 2008 2:12:32 GMT

MY NAME IS DUANE VAN DER WERF,AND I HAVE PAPERWORK ON HARM J, ZENTENHORST.I WAS WONDERING IF HARM IS IN YOUR FAMILY AND IF SO WHY DO I HAVE PAPERWORK ON HIM.UNLESS HE MARRIED INTO THE FAMILY ,BUT I CAN,NT FIND TO WHO MY FAMILY LEFT THE NETHERLANDSIN THE EARLY 20,S MY DAD HAD THE PAPER WORK IN A OLD BOX.CAN YOU HELP.I WOULD LOVE TO GET A PICTURE OF HARM AND MYBE SOME IMFOR.

VENHUIS/REINDERS

31 Jan 2002 5:24:13 GMT

Looking for information regarding the surnames Reinders and/or Venhuis. I'm not certain if I've made a correct link, but Auke Reinders married Willemina Venhuis in 1883. Willemina died November 10 1897.

Research

Chad Cronce — 12 Oct 1998 12:00:00 GMT

I've been told my great-grandfather Charlie Cronce was Dutch and ended up being raised by Native American Indians in Oklahoma USA. Has anyone heard of Cronce last name.

+ Familieberichten Drenthe 19 januari 2001

transcriber — 23 Jun 2001 3:32:38 GMT

Vandermark

mysticaltinkerbell — 9 Sep 2006 5:31:29 GMT

Hi ,
I am searching for information on the following people.
The first Vandermark that came to America . His name was Pieter Vandermark he was born about 1615 in Holland. He was the Father of Thomas Vandermark who was born in 1643 in Holland. Thaomas died in 1724 in Marbletown NY. If anyone can help me find out who Pieter Was married to it would be of great help. Also if anyone has these people in their family lines I would love to know more about them such as who their remaining family members were once they left holland. Thanks Susan in MD

Marriage in Amsterdam

hcksn — 27 Sep 2008 9:41:51 GMT

On behalf of a friend I am looking for the following :

Marriage of JEAN BAPTISTE (OR CHARLES) FAY
and MARIE ANTOINETTE DAUBELCOUT (OR DAUBERCOUT)
(Or even D’AUBERCOURT) before 1820

The death of JEAN BAPTISTE (OR CHARLES) FAY after 1820

The death of MARIE ANTOINETTE DAUBELCOUT (?) after 1820

The marriage of their son CHARLES JEAN BAPTISTE FAY to
ANNE ANAIS PERROUD between 1835 and 1851

hcksn@aol.com

Heck Family

hoogstad36 — 1 Sep 2008 1:12:05 GMT

Looking for information on Margaretha Joh Heck, born May 5, 1886 in Amsterdam, Netherlands. She died in Spring Township, Pennsylvania September 20,1958. She was my grandmother.

A. Jan van Imbyze van Batenburg went to Berbice, British Guyana

vanBatenburgCameron — 22 Sep 2006 3:52:28 GMT

A. Jan van Imbyze van Batenburg left Holland and went to Berbice, British Guyana in 1789, and became its Governor. My grandmother was born in 1880 in Barbados and her name was Amy van Batenburg-Jones Moore. Please contact me.

Kok/van Stripriaan

Mary Risseeuw — 17 Apr 2005 3:12:27 GMT

I am looking for information on Pieter Kok and Neeltje van Stipriaan, their children, and their ancestors. I do know that Tryntje Kok was married in Milwaukee, WI in 1853. Am trying to determine if Doortje (Dora in WI) and 'Agatha' were also their daughters. I believe the van Stipriaan family is from Noord Holland, but find records for Kok families in Zeeland, Noord Holland and Utrecht. Also have not been able to determine if Pieter and Neeltje emigrated to Wisconsin.

Thanks for any help you can provide,
Mary Risseeuw

VOGELZANG, SIEKER, VAN DENHOF

genuine_1 — 18 Jul 2003 6:31:55 GMT

I am looking for any connections to the following persons:
Heinrich Vogelzang b: 1835, Caroline Sieker b: 1842, W. Van Denhof b: abt 1817.

Isaac Westplaate Cool

johnstonbm — 13 Sep 2008 12:47:51 GMT

I am from Australia. I am seeking further information on Isaac Westplaate Cool. According to Amsterdam archives he and his wife, Johanna Lucia Boom were parents of Jacob born on 10 August 1766. I believe that Isaac Westplaate Cool was the brother of Elisabeth Westplate Cool born about 1738 and married Michael (Michiel) van Millingen in Batavia, Dutch East Indies about 1755. Michael van Millingen (who later lived in London and Paris) was a brother to Samuel van Millingen of London who was my ancestor. I have just noticed online that Thijs Westplate of Capelle aan den IJssel was researching on Isaac Westplaate Cool in 2004. He said Isaac Westplaate Cool was born in Batavia and attended Franeker university in Friesland in 1749 to 1754. I have been unable to contact him as his email address is no longer used. He seemed to say that Isaac's son, Jacob was in Bataafsche Navy and died in Rotterdam on 21 August 1806 under name of Jacob Westplaate. Elisabeth Westplate Cool/van Millingen was said to be an orphan and was raised by her uncle who was Governor General of Batavia and also Admiral. Hope someone will be able to help me on Westplaate Cool. Brian Johnston

finding ancestors

Frederik Marco de Bree — 21 Apr 1999 12:00:00 GMT

Please, if someone can help us to the following:

as far as we can find out, our ancestor came from the Netherlands having the name "De Bree". However, we can't find out from exactly where in the Netherlands he might have come. Most likely, he went to the Dutch east-Indies at the end of 1800s to Banda Neira. Likely 1880 or so. His name was Hendrik de Bree.
Who knows him?

v d Kuil, Van de Kuil

hoogstad36 — 8 Sep 2008 1:23:08 GMT

Looking for information on J. v d Kuil from Utrecht, Holland. Came to the U.S. in 1903. Born abt. 1865. He married Anna M. ? in Holland. They had Trijntje in 1885.
And Dirk in 1887. They came into the U.S. in 1904. They ended up in Sewickley, Pennsylvania. Cannot find any info on them other than that.

Van Gelder Family Line (Jewish)

randy_vg — 15 Sep 2007 7:19:44 GMT

I have been attempting to trace our roots back as far as I can from my direct line and have hit some roadblocks. At this point, if there is anyone who can help with either direct knowledge or can point me to some additional resources that may be able to allow me to go further back in our history it would be appreciated.

Here is the line we are searching for:

Mark van Gelder (born 1920 England)

father: Joseph van Gelder (born 1888 London, England)
mother: Minnia Schnodower

grandfather: Marcus van Gelder (b 1866 Rotterdam)
grandmother: Rebecca Kool (b 1867 England)

greatfather1: Joseph Van Gelder (b 1835 Holland)
greatmother1: Elisabeth Schenk

greatfather2: Marcus Van Gelder (b 1803 Holland)
greatmother2: Maria Samson Cohen

greatfather3: Joseph Abraham Van Gelder (abt 1775? Holland)
greatmother3: Kaatje Marcus

I am currently stuck with Joseph Abraham and cannot seem to locate any additional information in regards to a marriage or birth of either Joseph Abraham or Kaatje Marcus

These are the resources I have been using so far:

http://www.gemeentearchief.rotterdam.nl/
http://genlias.nl/
http://www.familysearch.org

I could use some help if anyone knows of any additional resources. Thanks in advance!!

DEECK, DEECKE

Scott Deeck — 21 Jul 1998 12:00:00 GMT

I have been told that my ancestor emigrated from Rotterdam to the United States sometime about 1860-1870 (by my
estimate). Upon entering the Unites States, his surname was changed to DEECK. He had four children: James, Bartholomew,
William and Emma between 1877 and 1883).

Please let me know if this sounds familiar. Can you provide me with any links to DEECKE family members in the Netherlands?

Van Loozenoord, Netherlands

detertlynn — 1 Mar 2008 8:48:38 GMT

Looking for information on Peter Jansen Van Loozenoord born 1757 in the Netherlands. Married to Hendrikje Nuyen born 1763. Son Jan Peterson Van Loozenoord born 1791 Married to Derkje Lubberts Spek born 1794. Son Hartger (Harry) born 1837. I can follow this line like crazy but wonder if there are any more of you our there.

+ Haagsche Courant 31-3 t/m 6-4

transcriber — 23 Jun 2001 3:32:38 GMT

KREFELD

R. Hillhouse — 8 Nov 1998 12:00:00 GMT

The Mennonites / Quakers that left Krefeld, Preussen for Germantown, Pennsylvania in 1683 were named: Op den Graeff, Kunders, Tyson, Arets, Lucken, Seimens, Bleikers, Streypers, Keurlis, Lensen, and Tunes. These sound more like Nederland than Deutschland to me. Does anyone know whether these people might have been Dutch immigrants rather than Germans?

German Help

michellebytes — 20 Aug 2008 2:01:48 GMT

Hello!

Would anyone know if there is a German site equivalent to genlias.nl?

Im looking for birth/death records for Wittgert early to mid 1800's.

Thanks in advance.

+ Familieberichten ARNHEMSE COURANT 16-05-2000

transcriber — 23 Jun 2001 3:32:38 GMT

OVERLIJDEN
----------------

Arnhem

Annigje Bartha (Ans) Karreman wv. Pieter Huibert Ceton
* 14-06-1916 Oud Alblas
+ 14-05-2000 Arnhem

Renkum

Freerk (Fred) van Aggelen ev. Magda Hendriks (3x)
51 jaar
+ 14-05-2000

Een scan is verkrijgbaar via mijn e-mailadres:
a.mateboer@chello.nl

Nepbaron

P.P.G. Hofman Kolk — 29 Mar 2003 6:32:04 GMT

Naast verdienstelijke (amateur)wetenschappers lopen er in de genealogie allerlei knoeiers, oplichters en idioten rond. Over twee ijverige vertegenwoordigers van deze laatste categorie heb ik in het blad HP De Tijd van 21 maart 2003 het volgende stukje geschreven.

NEPBARON

Namens de Vereniging van Buitenlandse Adel in Nederland bepleit mr R.A.U. Freiherr von Quast-Juchter in HP De Tijd dat Edwin de Roy van Zuydewijn best baron had kunnen zijn. Zijn betoog zal ik laten voor wat het is, namelijk even betrouwbaar als de afzender. Die heeft geen dubbele naam, is geen buitenlander, geen Von en ook geen Freiherr. Hij is zelfs niet van adel. Voor de gelegenheid noemt Mr Quast zich ditmaal geen doctor of baron, wat hij overigens ook niet is. Een echte vereniging is het ook al niet. Het enige andere lid is iemand met de zelf verzonnen naam Ritter von Lutter. Het is heel amusant, maar geen teken van kwaliteitsjournalistiek dat de Nederlandse pers de onzin van deze twee malloten telkens publiceert.

Baron T Metzger von Weibnom, Breda

Hoyvald1 — 8 Nov 2001 3:16:13 GMT

Where would I get futher information on him and the inheritance case, which may help me in putting together my Metzger family tree ??? Thanks much for your help

Try my Home Page.
International Genealogy Sources
and many links to personal genealogy pages
http://www.blast.net/niels

world war 2, anyone know about an F. Mandos ? (Tilborg,Holand)

wrcraig — 16 Feb 2008 9:29:45 GMT

abt 1944 in Tilborg Holland, may be a painter/artist

Familyname SMIT

Smitjes — 30 Jul 2008 7:51:54 GMT

Take a look here:
http://www.stamboomforum.nl/extern.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgw5....
or
www.drenlias.nl
or
www.allegroningers.nl
from 1600 till 1950

Familyname SMIT

Smitjes — 30 Jul 2008 7:51:27 GMT

Take a look here:
http://www.stamboomforum.nl/extern.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgw5....
or
www.drenlias.nl
or
www.allegroningers.nl
from 1600 till 1950

+ familieberichten Leids Dagblad 20.01.2001

transcriber — 23 Jun 2001 3:32:38 GMT

Hieronder volgen familieberichten van het Leids Dagblad van 20.01.2001:

Overleden te Sassenheim op 17.01.2001:
Pieternella GOUDEKET-ROOS
weduwe van W. GOUDEKET jr. (overl. 16.04.1961)
levenspartner van J. LIEMBURG (overl. 25.12.1997)
op de leeftijd van 84 jaar
====
Overleden te Leiden op 19.01.2001:
Willem BODRIJ
weduwnaar van Maria OUWERKERK
geboren op 02.04.1906
====
Overleden te Leiden op 18.01.2001:
Eva BREEDEVELD-VAN WENSVEEN
weduwe van Petrus Franciscus BREEDEVELD
op de leeftijd van 89 jaar
=====
Overleden te Oud Ade op 19.01.2001:
Jacobus Adrianus SCHAKENBOS
echtgenoot van Maria Wilhelmina VAN HAASTER
geboren op 10.10.1917
====
Overleden te Hazerswoude-Dorp op 18.01.2001:
Greta VOS-RUIS
weduwe van Johannes Jacobus Jan VOS
geboren te Schiebroek op 06.12.1912
====
Overleden te Leiden op 18.01.2001:
Bernardus Nicolaas VAN STIJN
echtgenoot van Engelina Johanna WEGHORST
op de leeftijd van 86 jaar
====
Overleden te Oegstgeest op 18.01.2001:
Maria Johanna BON
weduwe van Wilhelmus Johannes MEEUWENOORD
geboren op 03.12.1916
====
Overleden te Leiden op 17.01.2001:
Clara Kerry OUDSHOORN-SOEPARDJO
geboren te Medan, Sumatra op 15.10.1928
====
Overleden te Koudekerk aan den Rijn op 19.01.2001:
Cornelia VAN DER WEIJDEN-VAN DEN HOEK
sinds 07.05.1990 weduwe van I. VAN DER WEIJDEN
in de leeftijd van 92 jaar
====

GRATIS SCANS VERKRIJGBAAR!

Met vriendelijke groet,
Karin van der Linden

Looking For Ancestors

Munniks/Munnick/VonBremen — 28 Jul 2006 11:54:11 GMT

The last name of my great grandmother was VonBremen. Her daughter Katherine married a Fritz or Ids Munniks or Munnick in the Netherlands probably around the 1860's - early 1900. They had a daughter, Esther - she was my mother. My grandparents came to America in the early 1900's. Fritz or Ids had a brother named Yokum. I've heard that their parents were killed in a shipwreck when my grandfather was about 6 years old.
Thank you!

+ Familieberichten Leeuwarder Courant 14 april 2001

transcriber — 23 Jun 2001 3:32:38 GMT

VAN PRINCIN, VAN PRINCES abt 1642 Amsterdam

Mary Jane Leenstra — 1 Sep 2000 12:00:00 GMT

I am looking for information on my 9th gr-grandmother Penelope ? & her first husband, both born about 1622, possibly in Amsterdam & married in Amsterdam in 1642 before coming to America soon after. After landing on shore on Long Island in America, the story is that Penelope & her husband, who was too ill to travel & possibly dying, stayed on the beach while the ship's crew & other passengers left for the safety of town, promising to return for them. Before help could arrive, Penelope & her husband were attacked by Indians, killing him & leaving her for dead. Penelope was later found by Indians who nursed her back to health. She eventually escaped, found her way to town & later married Richard Stout. They later moved to Monmouth County, NJ where she lived to the age of 110. I have seen information saying her first husband was ? VAN PRINCIN, VAN PRINCEN, VAN PRINCES, VAN PRINCESS, Kent VAN PRINCES or John KENT or LENT. I have also seen her maiden name as VAN PRINCIN, VAN PRINCEN, KENT, LENT, THOMSON, & THOMPSON. I would appreciate any help clearing up the mystery of Penelope & her husband's surnames & would be happy to share my information on the many descendants Penelope & Richard left. Mary Jane Leenstra

BUITENDIJK

joy westland — 22 Jul 1998 12:00:00 GMT

Am searching for family BUITENDIJK relatives. My father, Pieter Buitendijk was born in Goes, Zeeland, The Netherlands on July 11, 1903. His parents Buitendijk -Mange then moved to the Hague. Does anyone know of any family members?

Please can you help me find them.

SwungVenus — 23 May 2008 11:32:27 GMT

Hi

I'm looking for Hermanus van den Berg b. 28 May 1880 & his wife Mechelina Louisa Bosman b. 7 Sept 1888. They were born in Amsterdam and were also married on 27 Sept 1905 in Amsterdam. I am searching for both their parents & siblings.

They have 4 children who were all born in Amsterdam,

Arie van den Berg b. 19 May 1906 (No other details i have on him)

Johannes Hendricus Hermanus van den Berg b. 25 May 1908, who is married to Gerradina Hoek b 22 July 1912 and they married 7 Oct 1931 in Amsterdam. I have been able to trace her family side with alot of success.

Anna Catharina van den Berg b. 17 Jan 1910 (No other details on her)

Louisa van den Berg b. 15 August 1916 (No other details on her)

I would be very grateful if anyone can give me a kick start on both Hermanus and his wife's family.

My grown children are very excited of all the work that i am putting into our family tree.

Thanks

I can be reach at lisa_v41@hotmail.com

Lisa.

+ Overlijdensberichten Alkmaarsche Courant 17-11-2000

transcriber — 23 Jun 2001 3:32:38 GMT

Overleden:

Trijntje Speets-Kuiper,
Zuid-Scharwoude 16-11-2000

Pieternella Derks-Schouten,
Alkmaar 15-11-2000

Cornelis Hendrik Sweris,
Alkmaar 16-11-2000

Pieter Herman de Vries,
Bergen 11-11-2000

Cornelis Wolse,
Heiloo 15-11-2000

Er is een scan van het bericht verkrijgbaar.
Aan te vragen op: mde.jongh@hccnet.nl
Meer informatie op: www.marjasweb.com

Marja.

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

Rijkse

bostar — 5 Jul 2008 3:21:52 GMT

I'm looking for anyone that is related to a Johannes A Rijkse born about 1941 in the Province of Groningen
Please email me at bostar@shaw.ca

Gerrit Jansoon van Voorst 1600 Ennenes Utrecht Netherlands

Bonnie Ferguson — 24 Apr 1999 8:52:32 GMT

Looking for Netherlands ancestry who were in New Netherlands in the 1600 & 1700's
VAN VORST DAMEN COEYMANS DE VOS FONDA DOUW JANS JANSE JACOBS VAN EPS MABIE MOL
any help would be appreciated

Hendrica or Pieter Wesseling

Pamela Wesseling-Shock — 25 Jun 1999 12:00:00 GMT

Looking for information on Hendrica or Pieter Wesseling. Pieter was born(we think) around 1813 in Friesland, the Netherlands. Hendrica was Pieter's mother but we can not find any records about her. She may have been an un-wed mother and was possibly a teenager when Pieter was born. Pieter married Hiltje Crap in St. Annaparochie around 1850. Pieter Wesseling is my great-great grandfather.

Looking for TenPas from Oostburg, Holland

janereynolds93 — 1 Jul 2001 10:19:28 GMT

I'm looking for any information on TenPas or Hendrikse families that came to America some time in the late 1900's. They settled in Oosburg, Wisconsin.

MackLander

Sjoerd van der Molen — 28 Jan 1999 12:00:00 GMT

Frederikus Lambertus Macklander, born 1799 's Heerenberg The Netherlands, son of Joannes Macklander and Aleida Gudden. Does anyone know of the name Macklander?

Klosterman/Kloosterman/Closterman

Kay_Copeland — 2 May 2007 1:18:09 GMT

Looking for information on the family of Leendart Kloosterman (b. Sept. 12, 1816)(d.May 21, 1909) who came to America in 1854 on board the "Masonic" with his wife, Neetje Sandifort, and their children. They were natives of Holland. They settled in Kalamazoo, Michigan. I believe that a John Klosterman and wife, Wilhelmina Pelzinger, was Leendart's brother and am trying to connect the two. They came on the same ship from the Holland. They are both buried in the Riverside Cemetery in Kalamazoo. My line is through Cornelius Closterman, son of Leendart. I believe that they are the sons of Pieter Kloosterman and Maartje Nuij. I am willing to share information.

Adriana Owen ;. re Owen, Proctor,Pearson & Goodwin

robertsanders22 — 24 Jun 2008 10:02:22 GMT

Adriana, re Family group please contact me for information on OWEN, PROCTOR branch.
Rob Sanders

Van Orsdal

RobertVJ — 11 Apr 2002 9:13:09 GMT

Innis Van Orsdal b 4 Jul 1765 emigrated from Holland to NY by 1800 as son John was born there.

Baan looking for the family

blondit1 — 6 May 2008 8:51:53 GMT

Hi i am looking for the family of Annie Clazina Baan, mother was Annie arentji de reus.
Annie Clazina Baan married Pieter Antonie Van Den Berg born in Amsterdam, they immigrated to New Zealand in 1962, they had two daughters. I have the name of Pieter's father and mother but that is all. Thank you for any and all help.

Jagtenberg

janicez2 — 8 Jun 2008 2:22:28 GMT

Seeking information on Bertha Jagtenberg born about 1885 in Santpoort, North Holland, NL and married 15 Apr 1916 in Toronto to Hendrick Revers born in Haarlem, Holland. I know they came to Michigan in 1921 on a Detroit border crossing with 3 children who were born in "English Canada". The children were twins Joseph and Clarence born in 1918 and Margaret born about 1816. I am trying to follow Bertha back to Holland. On the marriage certificate her father is listed as Catreinus Jagtenberg and her mother as Johanna Van Ballagosien. (Spelling may be inaccurate)

Jan Thomassen

LouisevanDelden — 3 Jun 2008 1:51:59 GMT

I am Looking for any information on Jan Thomassen.
Dutch living in the Netherlands in WW2.
His parents are H Thomassen ( b 1866-1921) and Jacoba P Dilkman (b 1882)
His sister was Anneken who married Hendrik H Witzand.
Jan apparently even though he was Dutch, he worked with the Germans in WW2. He has some decendants in the Dusseldorf area of Germany.
I am looking for family members in Germany and Holland.
And if this information is correct.

TURK surname in Holland?

Grayvernon — 24 Jun 2001 11:56:23 GMT

Trying really hard to research my family...what a frustrating thing to do. :o) My mother's maiden name is TURK and it's believed that her parents George Rose (surname unknown) TURK are from Holland. Or possibly, George Turk's family is from Holland. My TURK family settled in the Catskill Mts., Binghmton, NY, NYC Pennsylvania. Please feel free to email me at MistyBIue49@aol.com

Jan Thomassen

LouisevanDelden — 3 Jun 2008 1:51:57 GMT

Jan Thomassen

LouisevanDelden — 3 Jun 2008 1:51:49 GMT

George Steen

richardsmall28 — 2 Mar 2002 5:10:34 GMT

I am looking for information on George Steen who married Mayke Vannegena in East Friesland I think the town was Leer (Lier) they had five boys William, Alrick, Dick, George Jr., and Mike. I am the grandson of George Steen Jr.who married Jennie Borchers on 7 March 1900. Dick Steen married Henrietta Kaiser 1 March 1894. He died in 1942. If anyone has information please contact me thru E-mail. Thank you.

Durian family in Groningen, NETH

mussel — 7 Jul 2001 11:07:38 GMT

Hello, I am looking for information on the durian family who lived in Groningen for generations. Dirk Jan Durian, b. 6-25-1893 in Groningen, married a Tina Tillema in Kalamazoo, Michigan.

Dirk Jan Durian was the son of Mattheus Johannes Durian, b. 10-28-1860 in Groningen, NETH. and Egberdina Huttinga b. 7-5-1865 in Zuidlaren. They were married on 1-25-1891.

Egberdina Huttinga was born 7-5-1865 in Zuidlaren, Groningen, the daughter of Jan Huttinga and Hillechien Stevens.

Mattheus was the son of Derk Durian (b. 3-6-1828 in Groningen, and Luichien Meiring 9b. 2-14-1826 in Beerta, NETH. Derk was the son of Mattheus johannes Durian b. abt 1792 and Maria Wouters.

Luichien Meiring was the daughter of Ratte(?) Ottes Meiring and Grietje Jans Rijnberg, both of Beerta.

If anyone has information on any of the people in this geneaology, please contact me. Thanks. Maggie

the son of Derk Durian and Luichien Meiring.

Heyn

NancyWheeler84 — 17 Mar 2002 3:06:08 GMT

Just starting to research my Dad's Mom's Family. She was Florence Heyn, too. She had 2 sisters. Her parents were Margaret Beach Hoag and Alfred Theodore Heyn. Alfred, brother John and sister Olga came to NYC before 1900 from Hamburg area. m John had no issue and Olga married John Deleval. Ring any bells?

+ Familieberichten Streekblad Zoetermeer

transcriber — 23 Jun 2001 3:32:38 GMT

Editie 22 november 2000

Petronella Emerentiana Antonia van den Brink - van Tiel, geboren op 4 mei 1915 in Bakel en Milheeze en overleden op 14 november 2000 in Renkum.

Dick Hogeveen, overleden in de leeftijd van 76 jaren.

Copie opvraagbaar bij het Streekblad
Dorpstraat 33
2712 AB Zoetermeer
Telefoon 079 3171700 of fax 079 3168987.

Met vriendelijke groeten/with kind regards

Paul Christopher Feitz

The van Hemert Family Surname Project

wmvan — 10 May 2008 2:57:25 GMT

My name is Bill Van Hemert.

Have you heard of DNA testing for genealogy purposes before ?

I have a website now and a Project to conduct genetic testing as part of looking for our common ancestors and history as part of the human family.

Here's my testing results:

http://www.familytreedna.com/public/VanHemert/index.aspx?fix...

AND the story of my(our?) Haplogroup G :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_G_(Y-DNA)

Write and tell me what you think.

Bill VH

The van Hemert Family Surname Project

wmvan — 10 May 2008 2:56:33 GMT

Cornelius T Smit b.22.02.1888 Amsterdam to Norway

dahlmo — 16 Aug 2006 7:49:03 GMT

Hello,

CTS married Sophie Victoria Arentz Haaland 18.01.1946 in Bergen, Norway. He came to Bergen july 1926 from Rotterdam. Went back again october 1937 and returned to Bergen 15.10.1946.
He also had an nephew here : Cornelius Smit, born 3.3.1904 and he came to Bergen 13.11.1923 from Amsterdam. He married Margit Gjerde 1935.
CTS died 1962 in Bergen and Sophie is mentioned as widow, no children. Other mentioned are : sister Cato Smith, Netherlands, brother Herman is dead ( children in Norway, Netherlands, USA and Australia ), brother Nicolas is dead ( children i Netherlands and Australia), sister Marie Middelhoff is dead ( children i Netherlands and Uganda). I cant find widow Sophie as dead in Norway so may she left for Netherlands ? Appreciate any tips about this family. Sophie is my relative.
Thanks, Gry in Norway.

VAN LOON

Ernst van Loon — 20 Oct 1998 12:00:00 GMT

Ik ben op zoek naar iedereen die onderzoek doet naar de naam VAN LOON in het westelijk deel van Noord-Brabant ('s-Gravenmoer, Dongen en omgeving) om informatie uit te wisselen.

Bij voorbaat dank.

---------------------------
I am looking for anybody who researches the name VAN LOON in the werstern part of the province of Noord-Brabant ('s-Gravenmoer, Dongen and surroundings) to exchange information.

Thanks in advance.

Dam Family

endearing63 — 25 Apr 2004 10:38:30 GMT

Does anyone have any information on the family of Jan Dam (John Daam) of the Netherlands? I believe he was born in 1896 and immigrated to the US in the early 1900's. Jan was my grandfather and as a boy he was adopted by the Ruimveld family.

He may be related to the following:
Elizabeth Ariaantje & Florus de Zeeuw
Janna Elizabeth & Jan Leenheer
Krijna & Pleun Dekker
Rijka Elizabeth & Hermanus van den Berg
Rochus Catharinus & Anna Cornelia Mast
Jacoba Maria & Pieter Stehouwer
Willem & Helena Klara Lenie Stehouwer
Gerda Stehouwer
Jeanette Stehower

I am not certain about the family ties, but in their family tree they list a Jan Dam with no other information in regards to Jan.

Jan/John (Dam/Daam) Ruimveld married Antje/Anna Hut.
Any help woudl be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Van Iersel Family

LorraineMcMillan — 3 May 2008 8:00:37 GMT

I am not connected to this family but have a wonderful old photo, dated Breda Nov. 1944, of 4 Van Iersel children that I would like to share. I believe the family must have befriended my Dad during WW11 and he brought it back to Canada with him.
Kind Regards, Lorraine

Thomas Willem Hendrik Hart

janelecouer — 3 May 2008 4:02:22 GMT

Looking for Thomas Willem Hendrik Hart, born in the Netherlands, around late l930's, was in service of the Dutch Marines. Was stationed for a couple of months on the isalnd of Curacao, Netherlands Antilles (Dutch Caribbean)around 1949 beginning l950.This person is my father. Can anybody out there please help me establish contact with him.
He might be living in Sweden, Almhult.
Any information regarding him, can be send to my e-mail
address: janelecouer@hotmail.com
Hoping to receive positive information, I remain,

Sincerely,

Jane Antoinette Mathilda Hart

Archibald Bendelow of Yorkshire, England

oakley1945 — 2 May 2008 4:25:08 GMT

I am trying to trace Private Archibald Bendelow, possibly of the Yorks & Lancs Regiment, that served in Burma in the 1939-45 World War. He holidayed in Wellington at the Sterling Holiday Home around April-May, 1944. Said to be an interior decorator with artistic skills.

DANHOFF,SIEPLINGA,HAAK,BORGERDING

SharonGFSV — 7 Sep 2001 3:56:00 GMT

Anna Danhoff/Johannus Sieplinga, 1800?

Peterdina Haak/Wm Borgerding, 1800?

van oosterhout, van hoorm

aimss20125 — 29 Apr 2008 9:53:48 GMT

Hi,

I'm looking for ancestors of my grandmother, Elisabeth van Oosterhout.
Her father's name was Nicholaas van Oosterhout (1894-1941) and her mother's name was apparently Elisabeth van Hoorm (1898-1978).

I've tried searching on genlias and various other places, but nothing comes up! Can anyone help me at all?

Thanks :)

John BOS (BOSS)

bobboss55 — 22 Apr 2008 8:24:01 GMT

Looking for infgormation on my gggrandfather. The latest info I have is that he was on thE s.s coral as a cook and that even though he resided in Liverpool England, he was originaly from Rotterdam. The info I have says he was 31 in 1881 so he would have been born about 1850. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thaks

Bob Boss

J. Boomkamp

Ellinea — 24 Feb 2008 10:44:21 GMT

Looking for family of J Boomkamp address in 1945 is
Haaksbergstr 130, Hengelom? Holland.
We have a photograph of J Boomkamp and his daughter. Father was billeted with this family at the end of WW2 and we would love to find this family.

Kind regards,
Patricia

Trying to find a place called Hartgerod, possibly in Netherlands

AUSTFoulds — 20 Apr 2008 7:30:22 GMT

Hi,

I have a Jan Carel Werkmeester of Hartgerod, a Sergeant in the Dutch East India Company's Service in Ceylon in the 1700s.

I can't find the location of Hartgerod - we're assuming in the Netherlands or once was in the Netherlands. Can anyone tell me where Hartgerod is?

Thanks for your help

Regards

Olwen

Brouwer Family, Bergum, Friesland

Don Brower — 1 Sep 2000 6:28:11 GMT

I am looking the for the family tree for Johannes Popke Brouwer, my grandfather. His wife's name was Ybeltje. He was born in Bergum, Friesland on May 1,1864. His fathers' name was Popke. My Father's name was Walter John Brower. Any information wiil be appreciated.

Looking for Boonstra family

Brian Boonstra — 25 May 1999 12:00:00 GMT

I am searching for any and all names that match my search criteria.

+ familieberichten Goudse Courant 19.10.2000

transcriber — 23 Jun 2001 3:32:38 GMT

Hieronder volgen familieberichten uit de Goudse Courant v. 19.10.2000:

Overleden te Gouda op 17.10.2000:
Cecilia Clara VAN DEN BOVENKAMP-STEENWINKEL
weduwe van A.C. VAN DEN BOVENKAMP
in de leeftijd van 86 jaar
====
Overleden te Gouda op 18.10.2000:
Willem Gabriel JANSSEN
echtgenoot van M.G. JANSSEN-KROONE
in de leeftijd van 81 jaar
====
Overleden te Moordrecht op 17.10.2000:
Magdalena BLOM-EIKELENBOOM
weduwe van Arie BLOM
geboren op 19.03.1917
====
Overleden:
G. WELSING-GROOTENDORST
====

GRATIS SCANS VERKRIJGBAAR!

Groetjes,
Karin van der Linden,
k.vdlinden@wxs.nl

Ancesters of Cornelia Nout, Deil, Gelderland, Netherlands

allez2008 — 14 Apr 2008 7:54:21 GMT

I am having difficulty locating ancesters of Cornelia Nout who was born 24 Mar 1825, married Gerritt van Ash in 1846, and died 15 Feb 1866. Her mother is listed as Teuntje on her marriage record in the Genlias database, but I cannot find a fathers name or any information on her mother. Any help I can get would be appreciated. Thanks

sue lunn/ or jackson

deborahwilliams98 — 7 Apr 2008 3:02:10 GMT

can you please
email me at
debbiecw@aol.com
you have a cornelius yates in your tree
regards
debbie

Johannes DeWeerd & Jaantje Kieft

bsuesisk — 19 Mar 2008 7:08:13 GMT

Hello-
Looking for more information on JOHANNES DeWEERD b.4-1854 in Netherlands-Holland, Immigrated 1861-1870 to Holland, Ottawa Co., MI and married JAANTJE/Jane KIEFT. Johannes name was sometimes Johanna, he died 8-27-1934 and is buried at Pilgrim Home & Graafschap Cemetery in Holland, Ottawa Co., MI.
ANY help would be extremely appreciated, please email me:
suesisk@yahoo.com

Maaike van der Schaaf b. abt 1883 Holland

RKReed — 8 Mar 2003 1:57:30 GMT

Her parents are Kobus(?) van der Schaaf, Frankie van der Wei. Maaike married John DeBoer, also from Holland, in Freeport, Illinois, USA, March 3, 1903. He was born abt 1881. His parents are John DeBoer, Grietje Brule, also from Holland.
Maaike and John came to American 1902-1903. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

RKReed

Looking for my dutch family roots

angelfriendslouise — 10 Mar 2008 8:20:14 GMT

Im looking for my grandmothers maternal side of the family. The last name is Gildemeester. I do know my great grandmothers name, Louise Henrietta Gildemeester, her fathers name was Johann Hermannus Gildemeester, her mothers name was Johanna Catharina Gildemeester(nee Markies/Marcus)Johann was born in 1854, his parents were Daniel Gildemeester and Johanna Sophia Augusta Verberger. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you

Peter Doll 1854-1936

tigersbaseball — 9 Mar 2008 5:04:56 GMT

I am looking for parents of Peter Doll 1854-1936 and his wife Margret/ Maggie they left for West Michigan in 1888.

Wilhelmina Teunissen (1899-1978) m. Holstege

DanFord84 — 21 Oct 2007 4:52:08 GMT

I'm looking for information about Wilhelmina Teunissen, born 12 Sep 1899, Netherlands, died about 1978 Rotterdam, Netherlands. Wilhelmina married Gerrit Jan Arie Holstege (03 Sep 1891 - 08 Apr 1934) about 1923 probably in Ulft, Netherlands. Wilhelmina is my wife's grandmother.

Any information would be greatly appreciated. I am most interested in specific birth location, and her parents and siblings. I'm not sure how to proceed, suggestions welcome. Her 1978 death is relatively recent, are there ways to get those records or are they unavailable due to privacy concerns?

Dan Ford
danf@mathling.com

Villhaber, Bolhaar

clarearmstrong92 — 7 Mar 2008 11:12:54 GMT

Trying to locate Marcel Bolhaar from Amsterdam. We communicated a couple of years ago and he sent me a family tree of my ancestors. I changed e-mails shortly after and lost the e-mails.

My ancestors are:

Josephus Villhaber Born 1779
Johanna AZIER Born 1796
Frederik Villhaber Born 1826
Ida Esseherich Born 1828
Hermanus Johnannes Villhaber Born 1891 (My Great Grandfather)
Winifred Virgo Born 1895 (My Great Grandmother)

Also have many more. Please can anyone help?

soldier Petter Rein

kariv5 — 7 Mar 2008 11:13:41 GMT

b. 1.11 1734 Venezia, Italy
d. 30.6 1805 Lohtaja, Finland

Is there any1 who knows about his ancestors, country of origin ...
I have info of him after he came in Finland
His first nor last name don't sound like being italian, rather german or scandinavian or from Netherland

Abraham Van KRALINGEN, b. abt. 1860 poss. near Rotterdam

@@KlamityKat@aol.com — 22 May 2006 3:43:30 GMT

I'm looking for information about the ancestors, siblings and descendants of my grandparents, all of whom I've never known. He was Abraham Van KRALINGEN, born about 1860 in the Netherlands, possibly near Rotterdam. He was a canal boat captain and owned his own tug boat.

He married Jannetje LAWENDE ca 1877. He died in the 1930's in the Netherlands.

Children: Gisbert, Anna & Anthony (all died in the U.S., and we know about them). Now I'm looking for info on the other three who all lived and died in the Netherlands: Dirk 1887-1975; Jacob ca 1890-1975, married Petronella SUTTORP ca 1920; Lena born ca 1890.

I will appreciate any help.

Kathy Byers (for Anthony Van Kralingen, P.O. Box 1074, Volcano, Hawaii, 96785, USA)

Weick, Kriegshiem Germany

detertlynn — 1 Mar 2008 8:38:25 GMT

Looking for information on David George Weick born in Kriegshiem Germany married to Maria-cecilia Jacobi. 7 children Barbara,Margaret born 1884,Elizabeth born 1888,Anna 1889,Bertha 1893,Henry 1885, David 1886. Immigrated in 1894. David is my great-grandfather so I have plenty of info on that line, but nothing on any of the other siblings. If anyone can go back farther that would be great.

Diephuis, Dephouse

detertlynn — 1 Mar 2008 7:56:57 GMT

Looking for a connection to Sebe Diephuis born in Sommelsdijk, Island of Goeree-Overflakke, Netherlands in 1847. Married to Sietje Smit. Immigrated in 1881 with wife and four children. Children Clara (Klozina), Annie, Isaac, and Alex. Have lost track of Clara born 1873 and Annie born 1874. Have good records on Isaac Diephuis who changed name to Dephouse between 1920 and 1930. I need more information on children of Alex Evert Diephuis born in 1879 married to Flora Knuiphuizen born in 1879.Children Celia, Jeannette, Frederick, Clarence, and Sidney.

Sea Beggars

Chris Codrington — 19 Jun 1999 12:00:00 GMT

Martin and Cornelus Tromp were famous dutch "admirals" circa 1579-1640's. Having served in alliance with the English and received honors, one of them took refuge in England when under political threat.
He apparently produced daughters as well as sons and most eventually returned to the Netherlands. One daughter however is recorded to have married "Ussher Tyrrell" son of Sir Richard Tyrrell in Jamaica West Indies. Does anyone know of the Tromps, or a book which may shed light on their movements? TIA

Boartfield name originally? or locality?

svantelennartsson — 27 Feb 2008 12:46:50 GMT

I have a Boartfield/Bortfield/Boatfield relative supposedly from Holland and am hoping to figure out a possible original spelling of the name (upon coming to America c. 1810-1820). His name was Frederick D Boartfield and he lived in Philidelphia PA and worked for the mint before coming to GA.

Also interested to see if anyone else knows of this name in Holland and where he may have come from.

Roll of honour for Arnhem Airdrop 1944?

kathryn1471 — 25 Feb 2008 8:08:55 GMT

Hello,
Firstly apologies for not typing Dutch!

I am looking for an online list of those who died in the Arnhem Airdrop (Operation Market Garden) in 1944.

I have a distant family member who I was told died then and I wanted to research it a little further.

I tried Google but no obvious luck

Thank you in anticipation

Mark

Jan Willem vanTuil and Berendina vanderweerd

Cin765 — 14 Sep 2007 6:58:48 GMT

Is there any one that recognizes these surnames? Came to US in 1957 from the Netherlands. They have family still in the Netherlands. I have just started my search for these surnames so please help. Thank you. Cin765@hotmail.com

the "de" prefix

taylort13 — 29 Oct 2007 7:28:09 GMT

would a name like "de hoot" be typically dutch?
what would the "de" mean? and what is the difference between that and "van"?

Bosch

Dmuriel8 — 13 Feb 2008 1:30:14 GMT

looking for Bosch--Sister of Frederick W. Bosch born about 1884

Van Nugtren

redredbike — 11 Feb 2008 1:53:29 GMT

they were born in Holwerd,Holand,moved to America,and became Newton's.
anyone a Van Nugtren?

van PELT

Hazel Bentley — 10 Jun 1998 12:00:00 GMT

Van Pelt, Anthony b 1805 NY md. (1)_Reynolds (2) Mary Jane Clark moved to
Ohio ca 1840.

Bouwman family

lindagrounsell — 31 Jan 2008 3:44:19 GMT

I'm trying to trace the parents of Leonardus Bouwman born 1857 in Amsterdam. He married Catharina J.A.A. van Vliet, and lived in Heiloo from 1909. I'd love to hear from anyone who can help.

Looking for ROOSEN Family

Geoff Roosen — 12 Feb 1999 12:00:00 GMT

I am interested to meet others interested in the ROOSEN family name.

Seeking info about Protestants who fled to Sweden from FLANDERS

RosalieSundin — 17 Feb 2008 3:08:24 GMT

I am completely at a loss as to where to begin. I know that my ancestor's name was Olaus Laurentius (Olof Larsson), born in 1543 in Borlange, Sweden to a man named LARS (Laurence, Lawrence, Laurents, Laurentz??) who is said to have fled from Flanders seeking religious freedom in Sweden. The original source for this information said Olaus' parents were Huguenots (I presume originally from France.) "Lars" and his wife probably sailed to either Stockholm or Gavle, and then settled in the Dalarna region, in the town/village of Borlange (near what is now Gagnef commune.) We are guessing Lars and his wife (and possible other family members) would have left Flanders sometime in the previous 0-30 years (1542-1510) since they were still of childbearing age by 1543. Lars may have been ordained previously, but this is unknown. His son Olof Larsson's name was "latinized" to Olaus Laurentius when he became a member of the clergy in Sweden in the 1560-70's at Uppsala or Vasternas. ANY ADVICE on how and where to begin searching would be greatly appreciated. Would transport records from Flemish ports exist from this time frame? Were there lists kept in Flanders of religious refugees who fled France.

Ger Faber

SFaberTak — 17 Feb 2008 3:01:54 GMT

Hallo.

Wie kan mij helpen aan de stamboom van Ger Faber. Vermoedelijk is hij een afstammeling van Cornelis Gerardus Jacobus Faber (Utrecht 1870-ca. 1917). Ger Faber was getrouwd met zangeres Conny van den Bos en was enige tjd lid van het Leedy Trio.

Met vriendelijke groet, Sandra Faber

Reabel family tree.

mariabindert — 25 Jul 2002 2:37:30 GMT

Hi! I am looking for any info on the Reabel family tree. My grandfather was Matheus Reabel. He married Adriana Mosseveld on September 4, 1937 in Tournhout Belgium. They immigrated to Australia in April 1956 with 8 of their 9 children. My father Matheus Reabel married Petronella van Amelsfort on January 4, 1956 and immigrated to Canada with 3 children and two on the way in April of 1960. I am looking for any info on my great grandfather who may have lived in Tilburg, NB, Netherlands or possibly Tournhout, Belgium. Please email any info to me. Thank you, Maria.

Batteram

Batteram — 27 Jul 1999 11:14:51 GMT

looking for information/familiy of the
Batteram family in the world, if you know
a member of the Batteram family pls let me know??
batteram@wxs.nl

Holwerd,Holland ancestors

redredbike — 11 Feb 2008 1:49:00 GMT

I seek family of
Robert A. VanNugtren born July 15,1842
wife Helen (?) born July 13,1857

they had
1.Edward June 3,1879
2.William A., 1880
3.Nancy, Nov. 1881
4.John H., Aug 1884
5.Nickolan, Jan 23,1886
6.Bessie,1889
all in Holwerd,Holland,
then all came to America
by 1891.
anyone have these names in their tree?

Genalogie

Gerard en Trijnie Waasdorp — 12 Dec 1998 12:00:00 GMT

Is Wildfield a variation of a Dutch surname?

laura19100 — 28 Oct 2007 4:12:45 GMT

My great-grandmother came to the US from Holland around 1890. Their last name was Wildfield. I have found this on US census information, but nothing before they came here. I'm not finding this name anywhere in my Dutch research. Is this a Dutch surname, or could it have been derived from another Dutch name? Thanks for you help.