Abernathy - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: JOHN DANIEL ABERNATHY (1870-1948)

esf70 — 2012-05-26 18:35:24Z

Well, I descend from an Abernathy daughter that married back in 1783. I am also administrator of the Abernethy/Abernathy Y-DNA Surname project and perhaps the holder of one of the most extensively documented Abernethy/Abernathy database in the US. I am not a member of the Abernathys of Chambers County, AL, but of one branch of some northern Alabama Abernathys. But my line stayed in the southeastern states and didn't have itchy feet. So I'm not really all that closely related to these Chambers County ones from SC (mine were in NC before and during the Revolution), and my database won't even suggest that we're related as they will with those who descend from the 1st Robert Abernathy of Charles City County, VA. I have however managed to persuade 4 individuals of this SC branch of Abernathys to participate in our Y-DNA project, which is one reason I know we're not all that closely related.

Potential parents of "our" Robert (1st) Abernathy

esf70 — 2012-05-18 17:21:22Z

I recently did a survey of my 30,000 plus database on Abernathy / Abernethy to see if I could come up with some clue as to the general location in Scotland of "our" Robert (1st) Abernathy.

I picked only those for whom I had _documented_ children. Here are the general results:

Midland counties: 8 thusly, Midlothian, Edinburgh or nearby: 7 possibles, Glasgow, Lanarkshire: 1 possible
Lowland counties south of Edinburgh: 2 possibles (Berwick & Roxburgh)
Midland counties north of Edinburgh: 2 possibles (Fife & Banff)
Highland counties: none

Names of Fathers (mothers occasionally not named) included John, Arthur, Lowrence or Laurence, Cuthbert, Patrick, William, Andrew, James.

Not a single George!

George & Rebecca Abernathy

esf70 — 2012-05-16 13:01:04Z

George Abernathy & Rebeca Boswell were probably married about 1876. They had at least 4 children: Edwin Carlin Abernathy, William Andrew Abernathy, Harry Elmar Abernathy, and Thomas Edward Abernathy. They lived in Shasta or Tehama County, CA.

I am looking for living descendants of this couple.

Re: Abernathy's from Missouri

esf70 — 2012-05-14 16:07:42Z

Okey-dokey.... Per my database after finding Peter on 1880, 1900, and 1910 census records: Peter A. Abernathy's 1st wife was Melissa, maiden name unknown; his 2nd wife had been the wife of Joe Meyers; his parents were James M Abernathy & Mary Elizabeth Kinder; James's parents were Frederick Abernathy & Betsy Gibbs; Frederick's parents were Robert Abernathy & Abigail Harwell; Robert's parents were John (Sr) and Lucy whose maiden name unknown after years of expert research; John (Sr) was the 2nd son of the 3rd Robert & wife Mary, maiden name again unknown despite years of expert research; the 2nd Robert's wife was Christian Parham (only recently proven); the 1st Robert's wife was Sarah Cubisha; and despite many on-line totally incorrect databases, we have not yet been able to find the 1st Robert's parents in Scotland. There is not one iota of provable evidence of Native American blood in this family, despite years of hand-me-down tales to that effect. Many of males in the family have black hair and darker than typical skin than fairer Scotsmen.

Inversk Parish, Midlothian, Scotland

esf70 — 2012-05-14 11:41:31Z

I wish to discover if the Robert Abernethie who married Margaret Baird in 1700 in Inveresk, Scotland is the same Robert Abernethie who married Jean/Joan Thomson in Inveresk 13 years later.

I would also like to discover if the John Abernethie who married in Sep 1711 in Inveresk, Scotland to Mary Jack is the same John Abernethie who married Margaret Steinson in that Parish 18 years later.

Re: James K.P. Abernathy

esf70 — 2012-05-11 16:56:26Z

Then I apologize for my post.

In point of fact, I almost never look up the family trees on ancestry any more, and have no idea what John T Palmer PHD's online trees say.

I'm still just a tad annoyed over the multi-hundred-thousand-record databases on the Internet that have me born before my parents even met, let along got married.

Re: James K.P. Abernathy

Seventimes_1 — 2012-05-11 16:43:57Z

Obviously Elizabeth you have decided to respond to me directly about the posting reply I sent to Marge!!!

I am not attacking your 30 years of experience at all. But, with all of that experience, why can't you see that John T Palmer PHD has made assumptions about Mary being a widow in the 1850 census, and has repeatedly done it in his Family tree for this family on Ancestry.com and Rootsweb.com? I try very hard to use facts rather than outguess folks feelings about this line. My GOAL is to provide insight to the people who are directly related to James K P Abernathy, not to someone who is not obssesed with this family or indirectly related. Having said this, I respectfully would say to you that your research stands for itself thru the years of effort you have put forth in the Abernathy Families, and I'd prefer to work with you, as opposed to working against you. Sincerely Brad sends...

PS..."The primary purpose was to drain the swamp!"

Re: Hutchens Abernathy, MD

esf70 — 2012-05-11 16:37:51Z

He died in Jun 1858 in Christian County, KY. He's listed on the 1860 Mortality Schedule as D. H. Abernathy, a physician, aged 50, cause of death paralitic stroke, 3 yrs.

Re: Abernathy family from Aledo TX

esf70 — 2012-05-11 16:01:03Z

The 1920 Parker County TX census has an Abernathy family listed in Wetherford Ward 4: Jim, b. abt 1861 in TN, wife Modora b. abt 1865 in AL, and probable child Josie b. abt 1884 in TN. They are also found on the 1910 Parker County TX census in Wetherford Ward 4 with another probable child Geneva, also b. in TN abt 1892, and on the 1930 Parker County TX in Wetherford with Josie, now 47, and a grandaughter Vivian Lacy b. abt 1914 in TX. They are listed alternately as mullato or black on these census records, which may or may not be correct.

Sorry, but I could not find a Ruth Abernathy in that area, even when I tried some alternate spellings on the surname.

Re: James K.P. Abernathy

esf70 — 2012-05-11 15:19:47Z

Have it your way: I gave you specific data and laid out the most logical and probable scenario based on my experience with this surname for over 30 years. If you don't wish to entertain that, it's certainly not MY problem!

Re: James K.P. Abernathy

Seventimes_1 — 2012-05-11 13:56:56Z

Just to set the record straight, I would submit that the 1850 census for Simpson County, MS does not reflect that the Mother Mary (Unknown) of James K P was a widow. She died in 1850 supposedly, after the census came out, but that would make her husband the widower if he was still living. Since noone knows who the husband was (father of James K P), how does anyone know when he died? Please enlighten me on this if you have specific info. I'll even accept assumptions at a risk, if within reason.

I had mentioned this in a previous posting also.

Re: Abernathy family from Aledo TX

kimreid45 — 2012-05-11 05:02:30Z

These Abernathy's are not the one's I have been hopeing to find. They were in Wetherford TX and I think my Great Grand Mother;s name was Myrtle I'm not really sure and my Great Uncle James lived in EL Passo TX with his wife Trula. They had 2 children Anne Abernathy Kiley and David Abernathy. My Grand Mother Ruth Abernathy Lyle moved to Trussville Alabama in 1937 When my mom and her twin sister Myrna were born.

Re: James K.P. Abernathy

Seventimes_1 — 2012-05-10 18:05:28Z

James Chesley Abernathy was not a slave in the 1820 census, he was born in 1789.

Can anyone find Mary (Collier) Born 1806 in Newbury, SC Abanathy in the 1840 Census?

Can anyone find James Chesley Abernathy Born 1789 in Newbury, SC in the 1850 Census? He had land grants in 1835 and 1840 in Choctaw, Rankin, MS.

By the way, let us not forget the primary search was to find the Parents of James Knox Polk Abernathy born 1847 in Simpson County, MS. He served in the Civil War, and also had land in Choctaw, Rankin, MS.

Seeking male descendants: Jean Troup, Kincardineshire, Scotland

esf70 — 2012-05-10 16:46:12Z

On behalf of our Y-DNA Surname project: Jean was christened on 5 May 1714 in Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland. She married John Abernethie and had 4 sons and 2 daughters that I can find. The sons were William, John, Archibald, and George. Archibald married and immigrated to Canada. I am looking for any direct male-only issue from the other two, especially if they remained in the UK. By direct male-only I mean that nowhere in their descent line do they descend from an Aberneth? daughter. Only father -> son -> son -> son -> son is acceptable for a Y-DNA test, which is what I need information concerning.

Re: James K.P. Abernathy

esf70 — 2012-05-09 01:58:30Z

For the children of Chesley Abernathy, I have Rachel Abernathy Seymore (1803-1858), Manuel C Abernathy (1812-1871), a daughter b. cir 1814, a son b. cir 1816, a John A F Abernathy b. cir 1822 or 1824, another daughter b. cir 1825, and another son b. cir 1828.

On the 1820 Newberry County SC census, Chesley is listed with a household having 2 males in the under 10 age bracket, and himself in the aged 45 and up tally, and 1 female aged under 10, one female aged 10-15, and one female aged 26-44.

Chesley on the 1830 Greene County AL census had in his household 3 females: one aged under 5, one aged 10-15, and one aged 40-50. He also had 5 males: one each in the tally categories for a) Under 5 yrs, b) 5-10 yrs, c) 10-15 yrs d) 15-20 yrs and e) aged 50-60. Chesley on the 1840 Rankin County MS census had 3 males in his household: one aged 10-15, one aged 15-20, and one aged 50-60. He had no females in his household.

On the 1840 Rankin County MS census there is a M. C. Abernathy (1812-1871) with a household of one male aged 20-30 and one female aged 15-20.

Also on the 1840 Rankin County MS census there is a C. Abernathy with a household of 1 male aged 10-15, 1 male aged 15-20, one male aged 50-60 and no females.

On the 1850 Rankin County MS census, Manuel is listed as E Abernathy, aged 38, wife Nancy 37, Sophronia 9, William 7, Hariett 5, John 3, Chesley 1.

On the 1850 Simpson County MS census Mary Mrs Abernathy is listed with Arthur, aged 16, William, aged 11, and James age 3. This suggests that Arthur and William might be children of her marriage to one of the unidentified sons on Chesley's 1830 Greene County AL census household.

Looks like I'm wrong about the William with the widow'd Mary in Simpson County MS being the same as the William on the 1850 Rankin County MS Census in Manuel's household.

You probably didn't come up with Arthur or William, or even the widow'd Mary and James because you were probably searching for the surname Abernathy and she's listed with the surname spelled Abanathy.

I have a file of Abernathy/Abernethy surname spelling differences, predominantly from US Federal Census forms and I sort of stopped making new entries on that file once the number of mis-spelled surnames topped two hundred and sixty.

I also have "blank" files for every census year before 1850 although generally only the 1830 & 1840 ones are most helpful. Comes in very handy. And that is one reason why I am fairly sure that Chesley had at least 7 children.

Re: Abernathy family from Aledo TX

esf70 — 2012-05-08 15:32:59Z

The James Abernathy I found on the 1880 Alabana census who seems to fit your James Abernathy best was about 5 yrs old at that time. His parents were John Thomas Abernathy & Dorthula Cole, both b. in Alabama. I have a note of a marriage about 1911 in Parker County, TX. I don't have any children for that marriage yet.

John Thomas Abernathy is of a lineage of Abernathys out of Newberry County South Carolina, many of whom settled in Chambers County, Alabama.

If you can confirm that the WW I Draft Registration for one James Lawson Abernathy, b. 4 May 1876, Texas Death Index for James Abernathy who died 14 Dec 1937 in Parker County, TX, certificate 62434 is, in fact, the James Abernathy you believe yourself descended from, I can definitely point you in the direction of his paternal ancestors, get you back to before 1800, and perhaps put you in touch with a few living albeit remote cousins.

You can reply here or send a private email to elizabeth (at) wa4kdc.net

Re: James K.P. Abernathy

margaretjames49 — 2012-05-08 15:08:16Z

The names if the children that I have found with Chesley and Mary Collier are Manual and Rachael, with a un names son born in about 1812 and an un named daughter born in about 1814.
The 1850 census does not give if the males with widowed Mary Abernathy are sons or not. What makes you think that William might be a nephew?
I have done searches on the names Arthur K and William F and come up with nothing.
Also what makes you think that Mary might have been Mary Smith?

Re: Abernathys of Aledo

esf70 — 2012-05-08 14:13:20Z

Well, Gayle,

I think I might be able to help you, having found your gr-grandfather on the 1900 Census in Ballinger, TX. By chance was he born 25 Dec 1848 and died 10 Feb 1923? I need to be positive, there turned up some interesting potential confusions when I started checking my database.

Re: James K.P. Abernathy

esf70 — 2012-05-08 12:36:28Z

His mother was likely the former Mary Smith and was married to one of the sons of Chesley Abernathy who died in Aug 1859 in Rankin County, MS. My database has two un-named sons in addition to Manuel, and John, both of whom were apparently still alive as of 1860. Which of the sons of Chesley she was married to is still unknown, but the children with her in 1850 in Simpson County, MS included Arthur Abernathy b. cir 1834 in TN, William Abernathy b. cir 1839 in MS and James Abernathy b. cir 1847 in MS. I am unsure if the William Abernathy with her is not, in fact, the William Abernathy who married Frances Lucinda Waters; not her son but perhaps a nephew. I have no further data on Arthur at all. Perhaps further evidence will someday be found by someone else.

Re: John Abernathie

esf70 — 2012-05-08 12:16:52Z

Ah, Betty....
I believe that your theiry is a tad incorrect. I identified the John Abernathie you were asking about some years back.

By his own sworn testimony when he applied for a Revolutionary War Pension, John Abernethie (note spelling difference) was born in a small community slightly north of Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, in the British Isles on 2 Sep 1754, emigrated to the Virginia Colony in Oct 1772, then moved to Wake County North Carolina where he served in the Revolution. He states that in Jan of 1788 he moved to Wilkes County, Georgia. In Jul 1800 he, wife and most of his eight named children moved to what is now Cape Girardeau County, Missouri, where he later applied for a Revolutionary War Pension but was rejected, although I cannot understand why. He died after 9 Oct 1833, as that is the last time we find him in official records.

His wife was Elavins Clary; his parents were probably John Abernethie & Margaret MacGill, who married on 25 Jan 1753, St Andrew, NewCastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England.

Several Wilkes County GA Deeds name eight children: Mary Abernethie (Mrs Samuel Wilborn), Washington Abernethie, John Thomas Abernethie, James Martin Abernethie, Clarinda Abernethie, Sarah Ford Abernethie, Christiana Abernethie, and Wylie Anderson Abernethie. On 12 Jul 1800 he autorized his son-in-law Samuel Wilborn "to act in whatsoever way & manner in his discretion he may think will be for the advantage of said children respecting their land & all their other property in this state & in every other matter & thing whatsoever respective their affairs". That authorization is also in Wilkes County, GA Deed books.

Apparently all of the papers relating to his pension application (transcription in the documents section of my website, http://www.wa4kdc.net/ ) are located in records of Cape Girardeau County, MO.

Parish G Abernethie (d. cir 1853) of Illinois was evidently a grandson, and a recent Y-DNA test of a living descendant of his gives scientific evidence that John Abernethie's lineage is definitely NOT related to the Scots or Scots-Irish Abernathys of Colonial Virgina, Colonial New England, Colonial North or South Carolina, Colonial Pennsylvania, nor any of the other lineages of which we have documented data in North America from circa 1650 to the present, whether in Canada or the United States. True, this is but one test result, but considering John Abernethie's own sworn data regarding his birthplace, probably quite accurate.

A majority of the present day Abernathys of Missouri can be shown to be of the Colonial Virginia Robert Abernathy lineage, most arriving via Tennessee, the Carolinas, Georgia or Mississippi, while the Abernathys of the mid-west and beyond are a mixture of that lineage plus the Colonial Connecticut William Abernethy lineage and several Scots-Irish lineages descending from Hugh Abernathy of Illinois and William Abernathy of Pennsylvania (from County Antrim, Ireland). One other major branch of North American Abernathys can mostly be found in the deep South States: Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Texas. Then there are at least two Canadian Abernethy lineages that are unrelated to any of the above. Some of their descendents are now living in the United States as well. Most of these, when Y-DNA tested, fall into the R1b Haplogroup. Most Scandinavian lineages, like that of the above John Abernethie, fall into an I Haplogroup, which is clearly not related, having arisen in an entirely different part of the world than the R1b Haplogroup, which arose during the last Ice Age.

I hope this answers your question, and I'm sorry to tell you that your belief is mistaken.

Regards,
Elizabeth Ferguson

Re: abernathy's from bollinger county, missouri

esf70 — 2012-05-08 11:53:18Z

I await your next post with eagerness, as I can't yet find your relatives in my database. Granted, it isn't one of those multi-thousand-hundred record databases, but still ... it's no small potatoes either.

Re: James K.P. Abernathy

bellnancy39 — 2012-05-07 18:40:10Z

Thank you. This is more than I've been able to find. Elisabeth married my Grandfather's brother, Albert. She died before I was born. They lived very near my grandparents, so I saw him when I visited as a child. I live at Leland, MS which is not far from Eudora, AR. I will look you up on Facebook.

Thank you. This is more information that I have found.
Elisabeth married my grandfather's brother, Albert Walker and they had 6 children, I think. She died before I was born. They lived a short distance up the road from my grandparents. I live at Leland, MS which is not far from Eudora. I will look you up on Facebook.
Nancy

Re: James K.P. Abernathy

margaretjames49 — 2012-05-07 16:41:56Z

James K P was born in Simpson County Miss.in 1847. His mother, Mary was born in S. Carolina and a brother, Arthur K. was born in Tenn. Another brother William F. was born in Simpson county. This shows in the 1850 census. His mother Mary was widowed.
I think that Chesley James Abernathy was James's grandfather and his father is an unknown son that was born in about 1812.
In the 1900 census, it shows Fannie living with her brother Monroe and his wife Lula and their three daughters.
In 1900 Nannie, Elisabeth and your mother were living in the household of her brother William A. and his wife Charidy E and their two daughters.
William and Monroe were in their early to mid 20's at the time.

!910 census shows Fannie married to Charles Harper, with a daughter Bertha ( known as Bertie). !920 Shows Fannie as widowed.
I have 6 children born to Fannie and Charles Harper, the youngest born about 1919.

Fannie married Albert Pevytoe some time after 1920 with their oldest child being born in about 1922. They had 4 children, one being my dad born in 1927. My dad is Clyde Albert Pevytoe.
As a child, I visited my grandmother at her place, a farm in Eudora Ark. and later at her home in Oak Grove La.

I found you on Facebook, I'm there also, my picture shows me with a spray of red and white flowers kind of behind me.

Margaret

Re: James K.P. Abernathy

bellnancy39 — 2012-05-07 15:00:58Z

It is possible that they are the the unknown graves.My grandparents and an aunt and uncle are buried there. My Dad showed me where the graves are. and After their parents died, the oldest son, William Arthur kept the family together, Someone told me that Fannie took the girls over and William -or Billy- took the boys. This is why they would have been living with older siblings. William settled in Oak Grove, LA. I remember Aunt Fannie-
she was a Pevytoe then and lived with my grandparents for a while. I have tried off and on for several years to find out more about them, but have had no success. Someone told me that James K.P. came to MS from South Alabama, but I have no confirmation. My Dad, George Melvin Walker was the son of Nancy Caroline Abernathy and John Matthew Walker.
My name is Nancy Bell

Re: James K.P. Abernathy

margaretjames49 — 2012-05-06 21:49:41Z

I looked at the names listed for that cemetery and didn't see and Abernathy's listed. There are 11 unknown graves. Are they among those?
I'm still researching the family myself and finding it very hard to find the facts I'm looking for. Fannie was a triplet born on Dec. 6th, 1883. The 1890 census was destroyed in the Chicago Fire. In the 1900 census I found Fannie and Nannie living in the households of brothers and their families, they were about 17 years old. Fannie later married Charles Harper and after his death she married my grandfather Albert Pevytoe. My dad, Clyde Albert is from that marriage.
I'm stuck right now trying to find the parents of James K Polk Abernathy and not being able to find any birth, married and death records sure doesn't help.
My name is Margaret James.

Re: James K.P. Abernathy

bellnancy39 — 2012-05-06 19:26:21Z

I am the granddaughter of Nancy Caroline Abernathy Walker,the youngest daughter of James K. Polk Abernathy. She was the sister of Fannie. Their mother was Martha Ann Rebecca Jackson Abernathy. Does anyone have any information about her. I know that she died in Simpson County, MS when my grandmother would have been about 6. JKP died when she was about 3. They are buried in the cemetery at Macedonia Baptist Church in Simpson county, along with Annie who died as an infant. I would appreciate any information on the family.

Re: John Abernathie (Abernathy)

esf70 — 2012-04-28 02:25:26Z

Ah, Betty....
Very sorry for the delay and I hope you are still following this thread. I believe I can now identify the John Abernethie you were asking about some years back.

By his own sworn testimony when he applied for a Revolutionary War Pension, John Abernethie was born in a small community north of Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, United Kingdom on 2 Sep 1754, emigrated to the Virginia Colony in Oct 1772, then moved to Wake County North Carolina where he served in the Revolution. He states that in Jan of 1788 he moved to Wilkes County, Georgia. In Jul 1800 he, wife and most of his eight named children moved to what is now Cape Girardeau County, Missouri, where he applied and was rejected for a Revolutionary War Pension although I cannot see why the rejection. He died after 9 Oct 1833. His wife was Elavins Clary; his parents were probably John Abernethie & Margaret MacGill, who married on 25 Jan 1753, St Andrew, NewCastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England.

Several Wilkes County Georgia Deeds name eight children: Mary Abernethie (Mrs Samuel Wilborn), Washington Abernethie, John Thomas Abernethie, James Martin Abernethie, Clarinda Abernethie, Sarah Ford Abernethie, and Christiana Abernethie, & Wylie Anderson Abernethie. On 12 Jul 1800 he autorized his son-in-law Samuel Wilborn "to act in whatsoever way & manner in his discretion he may think will be for the advantage of said children respecting their land & all their other property in this state & in every other matter & thing whatsoever respective their affairs". That authorization is also in Wilkes County, Georgia Deed books.

Apparently all of the papers relating to his pension application (transcription in the documents section of my website, http://www.wa4kdc.net/ ) are located in records of Cape Girardeau County, Missouri.

Parish G Abernethie of Illinois was evidently a grandson, and a recent Y-DNA test of a living descendent gives scientific evidence that John Abernethie's lineage is NOT related to the Scots or Scots-Irish Abern(e/a)thys of Colonial Virgina, Colonial New England, Colonial North or South Carolina, Colonial Pennsylvania, nor any of the other lineages of which we have documented data in North America from cir 1650 to the present, whether in Canada or the United States.

A majority of the present day Abernathys of Missouri can be shown to be of the Colonial Virginia Robert Abernathy lineage, most arriving via Tennessee, North & South Carolina, Georgia and Mississippi, while the Abernathys of the mid-west and beyond are a mixture of that lineage plus the Colonial Connecticut William Abernethy lineage and several Scots-Irish lineages descending from Hugh Abernathy of Illinois and William Abernathy of Pennsylvaina (from County Antrim, Ireland). One other major branch of North American Abern(e/a)thys can mostly be found in the deep South States: Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Texas. Then there are at least two Canadian Abernethy lineages that are unrelated to any of the above. Some of their descendents are now living in the United States as well. Most of these, when Y-DNA tested, fall into the R1b Haplogroup. Most Scandinavian lineages, like that of John Abernethie of Cape Girardeau County Missouri, fall into an I Haplogroup.

Re: Abernathys of Aledo

kimreid45 — 2012-04-28 01:29:41Z

I know my great grandmother Abernathy lived on a cattle ranch is Weatherford TX her two children were James Abernathy and Ruth Abernathy Lyle. My great uncle James and his wife Trula moved to El Paso Tx and my grand mother Ruth and her husband Al Lyle moved to Trussville Alabama and had 3 children, twins Mona and Myrna and Richard Owen Lyle. If this rings any bells please let me know. Thank you Kim Reid

Re: Abernathy's of Bollinger Co. Mo.

dayne34 — 2012-04-26 13:12:36Z

I found her in the 1870 bollinger county census and it had her as age 3 1/2. This census came off your web site.It said she was born in 1869, James Milton was born in 1874.

Re: Abernathy's of Bollinger Co. Mo.

dayne34 — 2012-04-26 13:11:54Z

I found her in the 1870 bollinger county census and it had her as age 3 1/2. This census came off your web site.It said she was born in 1869, James Milton was born in 1874.

Re: Abernathy's of Bollinger Co. Mo.

esf70 — 2012-04-26 12:21:10Z

My deductions regarding Jane, daughter of James Marion & Mary Elizabeth Abernathy at this point in time is that she was possibly born prior to 1 Apr 1870, as she was listed as aged 3 months on the 1870 census, and her elder sister Mary was listed as 1 yr old. I did not find her on the 1880 census and therefore don't have any further data about her.

Re: Abernathy's of Bollinger Co. Mo.

dayne34 — 2012-04-26 02:38:30Z

James Marion and Mary Elizabeth had a daughter in the 1870 Bollinger Co. census named Jane. She was born in 1869.She had several brothers one being James Milton born 1874.

Re: Abernathy's of Bollinger Co. Mo.

dayne34 — 2012-04-25 22:57:33Z

Yes that would be my g grandmother. married to James Marion Abernathy?

Re: Abernathy's of Bollinger Co. Mo.

esf70 — 2012-04-25 12:28:46Z

I have Robert (1st) b. 3 May 1633 - d. bef 3 Feb 1685 & Sarah Cubisha -> Robert (2nd) b. cir 1660 - d. aft 2 May 1727 & Christian Parham -> Robert (3rd) b. cir 1682 d. aft 31 Jan 1772 (will signed) & Mary Unknown -> John (Sr) b. 21 Mar 1723 - d. cir 1819 (will signed 17 Feb 1812) & Lucy Unknown -> Robert b. cir 1752 d. on or aft 15 Sep 1832, will signed 8 Apr 1830, probate Catawba County NC & Abigail Harwell -> Frederick (4th son) b. 19 Jan 1791 d. 10 Jun 1852 Wayne County MO & Betsy Gibbs -> James Marion b. 2 Oct 1832 Lincoln or Catawba County, NC d. 13 Dec 1895 Wayne County, MO & Mary Elizabeth Kinder -> James Milton b. 10 Jan 1874 Bollinger County, MO d. 19 May 1950 Wayne County, MO & Emma M Johnson -> Linus Frederick b. 15 May 1913 Wayne County, MO d. May 1981 Madison County, IL & Bertha Voges -> You.

Despite years of expert research by many individuals, we have as yet NO documented parents for the 1st Robert! Wills and transcriptions of other documents are on my website. I can document Frederick's children: John, James Marion, Wesley & Sarah. I cannot name other children found on pre 1850 census tallys. I can NOT document Ira William or Columbus/Coleman as his but the circumstantial evidence is certainly suggestive regarding Ira.

Any conflicts and/or updates gratefully accepted & should go (privately, please) to my email address. I tried to contact you via ancestry. My contact information is on my website at http://www.wa4kdc.net/ as are contact and website addresses for my co-administrator.

Re: Abernathy's of Bollinger Co. Mo.

dayne34 — 2012-04-24 22:51:38Z

I'm not sure I'm getting this right. I have Frederick 2nd son of Robert 6th and Abigial was born Jan.19,1791. They had 4 sons and on daughter. Ira,Coleman,John,and James Marion and Salina. Two sons by E. Long Wesley and Jacob.Like i said before nothing written in stone.
James Marion b Oct.2 1832 D Dec .13 1895 was married to Elizabeth, James Milton was born Jan 10 1874 D May 19 1950 he was my grandfather, is this correct with your records?

Re: Abernathy's of Bollinger Co. Mo.

esf70 — 2012-04-24 11:35:54Z

I have his father as Frederick Abanathy [sic] courtesy of the 1850 Wayne County MO Census; from James Milton's date of birth, he was the last of Elizabeth Gibbs's children by Frederick because in Jan 1835 Frederick married a 2nd time to Eleanor Long in NC. She evidently died before 1850 because on that census the only ones of his children with the 58 yr old Frederick Abanathy[sic] on that census were Selina (28), John (20), James (17) and Wesley (10), mistranscribed as Werley on the index. I think two of his eldest sons were also in Missouri at that time but only one shows up in another household in the same district as his Father so the evidence of proof is only conjecture, not documentary.

Re: Abernathy's of Bollinger Co. Mo.

esf70 — 2012-04-24 11:06:24Z

Only that I found her with parents on the 1870 census, aged 3 months but not on the 1880 census.

Re: Brothers Ashton and Louis/Lewis Abernathy

esf70 — 2012-04-24 11:01:35Z

You are welcome.

Re: Abernathy's from Missouri

dayne34 — 2012-04-24 01:23:33Z

Do you have the date of birth for Peter Abernathy.My grandfather had a brother named Peter A.Abernathy born Aug.26 1861, son of James Marion Abernathy.

Re: Abernathy's of Bollinger Co. Mo.

dayne34 — 2012-04-24 00:56:39Z

Sorry I have nothing on a Jane but that doesn't mean much,

Re: Abernathy's of Bollinger Co. Mo.

dayne34 — 2012-04-24 00:48:59Z

James Marion was the son of Frederick and Betsy Gibbs,James Milton was the son of James Marion and Elizabeth,hope that helps,

Re: Abernathy's of Bollinger Co. Mo.

VCaroleWatkins35 — 2012-04-23 18:13:20Z

Was James Milton's parents Frederick/Elizabeth Gibbs OR
Robert H & Margaret????? Carole

Re: Abernathy's of Bollinger Co. Mo.

VCaroleWatkins35 — 2012-04-23 17:55:43Z

Yes thans very much, But do you have info on Jane child of James Milton & Mary Elizabeth?? Carole

Re: Brothers Ashton and Louis/Lewis Abernathy

conniemccomas14 — 2012-04-23 15:33:40Z

Thank you very much for your help. This has been a HUGE help. Again thank you so very much for your reply.

Re: Abernathy's of Bollinger Co. Mo.

dayne34 — 2012-04-23 01:12:07Z

James Marion and Mary Elisabeth Abernathy had our sons and one daughter Peter,B Aug.26 1861 W. Henery B Oct 5, 1862 D Feb.1902,Jacob L B Mar.30 180? Mary E B Dec.17 1869, James Milton B Jan 10 1874 d May 19 1950.
James Milton was my grandfather, He Married Emma Johnson and the had six children James Franklin ,Earnest Gardner, Oletha Kathleen, Linus Frederick,Ruby Marzilla, Charles David.
Linus Frederick was my father. I hope this bit of info will help.

Re: Abernathy's of Bollinger Co. Mo.

VCaroleWatkins35 — 2012-04-22 19:40:41Z

Thanks

Re: Abernathy's of Bollinger Co. Mo.

esf70 — 2012-04-22 17:11:28Z

Per my database, I have a Mary Elizabeth Kinder (1841-1913) who was married to a James Marion Abernathy (only approx birth/death dates): possibly a son of Frederick Abernathy & Betsy Gibbs. James & Mary E's children: Peter A, Wm Henry, Jacob Ira, Mary, Jane (d young) and Milton. This is only a collateral line for me and I have not tracked them forward of the 1880 census records. Sorry.

Re: Abernathy's of Bollinger Co. Mo.

VCaroleWatkins35 — 2012-04-21 17:36:21Z

I have Peter Kinder as being married to Barbara Myers because on Mary E. Abernathy's death cert states that is who her parents were. I'd like more info on the Abernathy's (James Milton & Mary's children) Carole

Re: Brothers Ashton and Louis/Lewis Abernathy

esf70 — 2012-04-21 13:44:16Z

Per my database, Ashton B Abernathy was b. 05 Jan 1898 and d. Jan 1971. His Social Security Number (on which these two dates are based, among other official records) was 228-30-0647. There is an official form one can use to obtain a record of a person's SSN application, under the Freedom of Information Act of our government. It's not cheap, but that application should have both of his parents' names on it.

His WW I Draft Enlistment card (at age 20) gave his birthdate and a middle name. WW II Army Enlistment records of his sons, may also yield additional information.

My notes also find him on the 1900 Dinwiddie County Federal census in Darvills (surname misspelled as Abanatho), with his mother, then aged 21, in the household of a Mr Miles. She is listed as his sister-in-law.

I find Ashton on the 1910 Dinwiddie County Federal census with his younger brother Louis, in Darvilles, in the household of Algenon & Mary Lewis, their grandparents.

I find Ashton on the 1920 Dinwiddie County Federal census (surname misspelled this time as Abernathey), in Namozine and recently married. On the 1930 Dinwiddie County Federal census report for Namozine, he is listed with wife, daughter and two sons, aged 7 and 4 yrs, 6 months.

I suspect (but can NOT yet document) that Virginia Mrs 'Chort' or Charles E. Miles of the 1900 Dinwiddie County Federal census report for the Darvills area _may_ have been a grandchild of James H Abernathy of Sapony, Dinwiddie County, Viginia. Her sister-in-law 'Lein Abanatho' I cannot yet identify, alas. But the Social Security Application of one or both of her sons might suffice, once it is obtained.

James H. Abernathy of Sapony, Dinwiddie County, Virginia is a docunented member of what I call the Abernathy-Short Branch (progenitors: Charles Abernathy & Alice Short: no exact dates for either), and our Y-DNA surname project has several individuals from this branch who have tested with Family Tree. Possibly a Family Finder test there may disclose a probable match with someone of that branch: this and related Branches apparently have Y-DNA that is remarkably stable compared to other families which FT DNA has tested over the years. But then, these branches can only be documented as far back as the beginning of the 1700's. Or mid 1600's, at best.

Hope this helps.

Brothers Ashton and Louis/Lewis Abernathy

conniemccomas14 — 2012-04-20 00:06:18Z

Looking for any info on these brothers. Ashton born 1897, Louis/Lewis 1900, lived in Ford, Dinwiddie, Virginia. On 1910 census living with Grandparents Algenon M. Lewis. Cannot find any info on parents of Abernathy Brothers.