Abernathy - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Abernathy's of Bollinger Co. Mo.

deniseajohanson — 2009-10-21 18:41:57Z

Also;
elizabeth Abernathy married John Kinder whos parents were Henry Kinder and mother was Barbara Crites.
If anyone knows of any native american ancestory in this line please contact me.

Re: Abernathy's of Bollinger Co. Mo.

deniseajohanson — 2009-10-21 18:37:36Z

Did Elizabeth Abernathy marry John Kinder and have a daughter named, Hannah Examina Kinder? I am searching to find a native american blood line. My Great Great grandfather whos mother was Hannah Examina Kinder said we had Indian in the family and I am trying to find out who it was and what tribe.

thank you,
Denise

Noah Abernathy of Perry Missouri 1870-19??

Erinleigh98 — 2009-10-20 20:49:13Z

I am attempting to research Noah Abernathy of Missouri (Perry). The Noah I am researching is the husband of Ida Mae ENDRES (m1 William Carelton, m2 Noah, m3 Sam SNYDER). A lot of people out there seem to believe that Noah is Joseph Noah Abernathy, son of Sion and Margaret (HUTCHENS). I have not found anything to back this up. In fact, I have found a marriage record for Joseph Noah stating that he married Mary E KIRNS on 30JAN1896, and census records for all years after (1900-1930) showing them still married. But Noah married Ida on 24DEC1896 (I have this record as well). Also, in the 1900 census, Noah's date of birth is given as MAR1870; Joseph Noah's is MAR 1876 (and I do have census records for both men for the same year, with their respective wives). I believe the Noah that was married to Ida died prior to or during 1910, as Ida is listed as a widow in this census. I have a copy of Joseph Noah's death certificate, and he didn't die until 1957. So, unless Noah was married to two women at the same time, and lied to one of them about his age, I do not believe that Noah, husband of Ida was the son of Sion and Margaret. If anyone has actually researched this Noah I would really appreciate any information you have, as all of the family trees out there just seem to perpetuate that Noah, husband of Ida is the same person as Joseph Noah, husband of Mary.

James Abernathy/Sarah Rockett

MargaretOgilvie — 2009-10-12 16:27:49Z

Subj: Abernathy-Cox family, early 1800's NC

Prior to the American Revolution, a James Abernathy was married to a Sarah/Sallie Rockett.
He was evidently a son of James Abernathy (who drowned in 1785) & Elizabeth Cox.
His marriage may have occured in Colonial Virginia, or the Carolinas, North or South.
He held property in Lincoln Co. NC and was identified on the 1790 & 1810 Lincoln Co. Census records.
His will was signed on 17 Jul 1829 in Lincoln County.
Six sons have been identified as belonging to this couple.
Samuel, George, and James were identified as "dumb" in his will and made wards of his other sons.
Of Robert, no death data yet uncovered.
John married Stacy Morris but died before in a fever epidemic just prior to 1850;
He left at least 4 sons, as shown by the Census records on the 1840 to 1860 in Lincoln & Gaston County NC.
William married Leah Robinson, died sometime after 1860, and left at least 3 sons, as shown on the 1850-1860 census records for Lincoln Co., NC.

Seeking living male direct-line descendant of William or John, one who is willing to provide a DNA sample for analysis.
Please contact project.abernethy@gmail.com.

Re: ABERNATHY Ovella Mae 1921-1937

nurseboop1691 — 2009-09-12 08:14:44Z

Thank you so very much, let me know if you wanna invite to my tree just in case we are related.

Abernathy's from Hanging Dog,North Carolina area

Melva23 — 2009-09-07 01:49:21Z

My grandfather was born in 1900 in the area mentioned. He later moved to Ellijay and Canton. He has three sons Melvin, Linford, N.A. Abernathy, Jr. My grandfather was Noah Andrew Sr. and he married Bertie Elizbeth Davis from Ellijay. He died in 1976 and laid to rest at Flat Branch Cemetery in Ellijay, Ga. Hope I find someone here!

ABERNATHY Ovella Mae 1921-1937

t42MountOlivet — 2009-08-30 23:15:29Z

ABERNATHY Ovella Mae 1921-1937

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ABERNATHY John Perry 1893-1958

t42MountOlivet — 2009-08-28 21:25:05Z

ABERNATHY John Perry 1893-1958

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ABERNATHY Maude G 1896-1985

t42MountOlivet — 2009-08-28 21:24:52Z

ABERNATHY Maude G 1896-1985

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ABERNATHY Henry C iii 1946-1986

t42MountOlivet — 2009-08-18 01:15:29Z

ABERNATHY Henry C iii 1946-1986

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Harold Wayne Abernathy photo

lindy331519 — 2009-08-17 23:56:48Z

found on www.shopgoodwill.com
Item # 5123503

I am not affiliated with goodwill nor do I trace this family. I just try to make sure family has a chance to get photos of ancestors

Re: ABERNATHY/MCGEE

cattx — 2009-08-17 11:48:39Z

William Max Abernathy married Zora Elizabeth McGee. They resided in Kings Mountain, NC.
Children were:
Carrie, Verlie, Mary Lois, Wilburn Norman,Annie Kathlene, Agnes, Leonard Ray, Hazeline. There was one child which died, my grandfather (Norman) had told me his name was Wilburn Max, but the census shows his name as Earnest.
Zora Elizabeth died in 1953. If you have any more information I would love to hear from you. I show William Max Abernathy's parents as Will Max Abernathy Sr and Mary.

Re: abernathy's from scotland

BarbaraNelson57 — 2009-08-15 12:41:30Z

Robert Abernathy MD from Dover MA?

If anyone runs across him let me know okay? Thanks

Barbara

Abernathy Gaston County North Carolina

cattx — 2009-08-15 05:55:25Z

Looking for information on William Max Abernathy b. 08/01/1883 d 01/21/1952. Parents shown on death certificate are William Max Sr and Mary. William Max Abernathy married Zora Elizabeth McGee, resided in Stanley, NC or around Spencer's Mountain and in Kings Mountain, NC. Children were Carrie, Verlie, Lois, Agnes, Annie, Norman and Leonard.

Patricia Jones and Jeanne Kirkpatrick (ABERNATHY sisters)

maryabernathymeyer — 2009-08-12 14:21:12Z

Looking for (living) Patricia Ann Abernathy Jones and her sister Jeanne Andrea Abernathy Kirkpatrick.

Your father and my father were first cousins. My husband
and I visited Breaux and Dorothy 29 years ago in Galveston.

Would love to hear from you!
Mary Alice Abernathy Meyer (mary23meyer@gmail.com)

PARTIN Fred Lanier Sr and Ruby ABERNATHY

t42MountOlivet — 2009-08-02 19:34:21Z

PARTIN Fred Lanier Sr and Ruby ABERNATHY

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Hannah Abernathy Altig Barton

SharonSue69 — 2009-06-19 20:59:12Z

The online website History of Pottawattamie County, Iowa says that a Roscoe Barton had a second marriage on April 6, 1893 to a Mrs Hannah Altig, native of Fountain County, Indiana. She was the widow of William Altig. Hannah's parents were Caleb Abernathy, of Ohio and Elizabeth, of Kentucky. Hannah was one of 10 children.

Re: Abernathy''s in Virginia ( decendants)

robertsonew — 2009-06-13 04:48:03Z

My Great, Great Grandmother was Harriet S. Abernathy born in1850,
daughter of Mary E. born 1828 and John J. Abernathy b. in 1814. They lived in Dinwiddie/Petersburg Virginia. I am searching for Mary's maiden name. Thank you for any information. Eileen

Correction: Jane Abernathy + Gibbs

hgosnell — 2009-06-04 18:49:16Z

Jane Abernathy was b. January 12, 1794 in VA., or NC. she married James Gibbs October 23, 1821 in Lincoln Co., NC.

Thank you

Harold

Jane Abernathy b. 1794 NC., /VA.

hgosnell — 2009-05-16 12:50:10Z

Looking for information on Jane Abernathy b. January 12, 1794
in NC., or VA., married James Gibbs January 12, 1794 Lincoln
Co., NC., She was the d.o. Herbert Abernathy and Elizabeth Harwell.

When or where did she die?
Who were their chidren?

Thanks
Harold Gosnell

Re: Obit-Lee Roy Abernathy

BPRICE6812 — 2008-10-22 00:24:31Z

You've got to be kidding me! I have been searching for someone from your family for a long time. I will try to contact you offline
Betty

Doublin-Abernathy union

Dawn_Maddox_Montgomery — 2008-12-04 17:46:48Z

Seeking to build the maternal side for my first grandchild. This is what I have to go on: William Abernathy married Vera Doublin, and they were the parents to Mary, Robert and Betty ~ these children born in the 1940's in Indiana.

Found an obituary for Robert Abernathy Jun 2001 confirming this much information.

Research:

Searching located a William Carl Abernathy married Vera Lorene Doublin in Laclede, Missouri, conflicting marriage dates: 13 Jul 1942 and 01 Aug 1942.

Hartford City, Blackford, Indiana is a connection.

1930 Census search gave me a Vera Doublin with 7 siblings and Joseph T and M Ellen as parents.

Laclede, Missiouri marriage records show Joseph T Doublin married Mary Ellen Graham 27 Dec 1913.

These pieces seem to fit, but it must be accurate.

Also in the 1930 Census, William Abernathy is shown living in Jackson, MO born abt 1921 with parents Robert born KY and Evelena Abernathy born MO. I am not sure if these are the correct parents for William Carl Abernathy born abt. 1921

Seeking someone with knowledge of this family who can provide more information. Thank you.

Re: Clayton Franklin Abernathy

opalmorrison1 — 2009-05-15 19:13:02Z

Hi, Danny
My name is Opal Probasco Morrison. I see you are related somehow to Nathan Sackett Probasco who is my gr grandfather.
I would like to correspond with you regarding research.
opal.morrison@gmail.com

Clayton Franklin Abernathy

emt948 — 2008-11-27 01:46:31Z

Looking for relatives with information. He was my great grandfather born in Feb 1899 in Mo.

Re: Anne Harvey Abernathy who married Rev Rees Davies

mi2early — 2009-01-14 13:49:34Z

Because the surnames are not uncommon, you may have more success if you provide dates and locations.

Good luck!

Re: John Abernathy

sueadams66 — 2009-03-19 03:31:50Z

I recently joined DAR as a descendant of John Abernathy of Newberry, through his daughter Elizabeth who married Joseph Hunter. When I was in Newberry in January, an SAR historian took me to the Little River Presbyterian church cemetery, where John is buried. The area SAR are in the process of determining exactly where in the cemetery he is buried in order to put up a stone. Apparently he was a founding member of that church. I have done a great deal of research on the family and would be happy to share any information that I found.

Anne Harvey Abernathy who married Rev Rees Davies

phillipharker1 — 2009-01-13 17:17:39Z

I am trying to trace any relatives of the above mentioned lady, Anne Harvey Abernathy, who married the Rev Rees Davies.

Anne Harvey Davies nee Abernathy may have had a sister called Olga L G Ree and another sister called Jessie Lyall Abernathy.

TX Birth - FRANK MILTON Abernathy - Died in San Antonio

907016 — 2009-05-16 01:59:58Z

He was married to JOSEPHINE HARRIS. Josephine Harris was born to DUDLEY HARRIS and HENRIETTA DIXON of San Antonio, Texas. . .

Siblings of JOSEPHINE (HARRIS) ABERNATHY are:
1. Bertha A. Glosson 1891-1960 San Antonio
2. Frankie Beel Williams 1890-1945 San Antonio . . .

Frank Milton Abernathy was a friend of the RUCKER family.
He was a friend of BEN RUCKER 1893-1938, AND of Ben's wife, AMANDA (GAYLE) RUCKER 1894-1969 San Antonio, TX. . . .

Pleae contact me if you are related to the family of Josephine and Frank Abernathy. Thank you

Re: Mary A. Abernathy, Giles Co., Tennessee

digger2jay — 2009-04-04 18:59:24Z

I have a Erasmus G. Abernathy b 2 Oct 1818, Giles, Tenn, d 30 Oct 1896, Fannin, Texas. And he is buried in Randolph Cemetery, Randolph, Fannin, Texas, USA. He is married to a Mary Jane RANEY. I have no children for them though. Any luck there besides Mary?

Merrill Bruce Abernathy & Muriel Dorothy Meeds

debbistewart27 — 2008-12-29 17:16:49Z

Can anyone help trace their descendants?

From: Ontario marriages, Leeds & Grenville 1924, 012708-24:
Merrill Bruce Abernathy, 20, student, Governeur NY., Syracuse, son of W.S.H. Abernathy (b. USA) & Gertrude M. Bartholomew; married Muriel Dorothy Meeds, 18, Theresa, Syracuse, daughter of George Meeds & Jessie Pike; witn Mary Y. Kidd & Paul J.G. Kidd, both Gananoque, 12 Sep 1924, Gananoque.

Muriel would have been my grandmother's cousin.

Debbi

ABERNATHY Bessie L and Jinks

t42Moore — 2008-11-02 22:22:06Z

ABERNATHY Bessie L and Jinks

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ABERNATHY James E 1902-1946

t42RoseHill — 2009-04-27 15:38:42Z

ABERNATHY James E 1902-1946

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Re: Lostlings

robincobb01 — 2009-02-20 04:53:27Z

Elizabeth,

I am so glad you did not die in someplace you haven't been to in years! That would be weird!

I'm so glad you signed your name to the last posting. I only could see your member number. I had seen your name on multiple postings on geneology.com. You are the expert! I am so glad you have been helping me. It has made my search so much easier.

Can I verify what I think I have down correctly?

From what I have read on a few of your other postings as well ( I haven't had a chance to read all of them but I now know what to start looking for), I decend from the first Robert Abernathy and Sarah Cubisha lineage in two ways:

2nd Robert Abernathy (1656) to Christina Tillman
3rd Robert Abernathy (1695) to Mary Harwell
David Abernathy (1726) to Martha Ann Turner
Martha ( Patti) Abernathy (known as the widow Bissel when David died) -Sarah's mother
Sarah "Sally" Abernathy (1789).

if David and Martha were 3rd cousins, then:

Unknown Abernathy son of 1st Robert and brother to 2nd
Unknown Abernathy 1st cousin to 3rd Robert
James Abernathy (abt 1746) to Elizabeth Cox - 2nd cousin to David (1726)
David Abernathy-Sarah's father
Sarah "Sally" Abernathy (1789).

There is another James Abernathy referenced in various places with a DOB of 1698 in VA. Could that possibly be James's ( 1746) father, the 2nd unknown Abernathy I referenced above and the 1st cousin to the 3rd Robert? I know I am way behind and probably very old news to you.

I received an e-mail from Mark Abernathy, our friends here in question and they could not provide me with many names. He has said that post civil war, prior to moving to MO, they were from Holly Springs, GA.

THe name that was given was John L. Abernathy (WFT Est 1860-1880 birth) who married a Mayme Jones b. 14 Apr. 1877 in Bloomfield, Stoddard, MO.

Children listed are Ruth Rice, Lena, *Louis (March 15, 1899), and Clay (died of polio).

I'm assuming the astrick on Louis is Mark's grandfather. Mark is 43, my age.

Any thoughts on this?

Again, I am so grateful you have all this information on my family. I almost feel guilty since you are the one who has spent countless years researching this. Being in Texas with small children would not allow me to be able to go find records, etc., so THANK YOU!

Robin

Sarah Abernathy Conrad

robincobb01 — 2009-02-17 12:37:59Z

I am wondering if anyone has any information of the parents of Sarah Abernathy, who was born on March 21, 1789 in Lincoln County, NC? She married Peter Rudolph Conrad on March 10th, 1810. He was also born in Lincoln County. I have letters ( not originals) that are published in a book of Conrad geneology that were written by George Conrad ( Peter and Sarah's son) which refer to Grandmother's maiden name as being Forney. It also states that Sarah's father died when she was quite small. It states she has 5 brothers and 3 sisters ( and 5 were older than she). She has a cousin named Daniel Forney.

In 1820 Peter and Sarah (Abernathy) Conrad and two of her brothers and one sister, with several other distant relatives moved to Perry County MO.

Sarah died on January 26th, 1847 and is buried in the Whitewater Presb. Church Cemetery.

Many postings I find do not show her as a child of David Abernathy and Christina Forney, but a couple have. I am trying to find out who her parents really are. She is my 4th great grandmother, and I descend from their first child David Rudolph Conrad.

Thank you,

Robin Cobb

Re: Lostlings

robincobb01 — 2009-02-17 02:38:34Z

Have you found anything out about these lostlings? My 4th great grandmother is Sarah Abernathy, who married Peter Conrad in 1810 in Lincoln County NC. They moved with two of her brothers and one sister around 1820.

Re: Lostlings

robincobb01 — 2009-02-18 20:41:19Z

Wow! That's great information. I can't tell you how much we appreciate this.

The one thing I do know for sure is that Mark's dad ( from my kids school) was the only Abernathy of his relations that moved to Texas and that was around the mid 1900s. All the rest of the family is still living in southeast MO. So I doubt any of the Texas clans are any relation. However........!

I have noticed many mistakes in the ancestry.com family trees associated with linking the right children with the right parents. Especially Sarah parents, and also James parents, the father of my David ( I think- I'm at work and don't have it all in front of me). They have parents linked to him that were dead before he was born! And it's not just one entry, it's a multitude! You would think people would check these things before they post it.

Well, I can't wait to get home and look into all of this and get it mapped out on paper where I can make it make sense.

If I wanted to see the wills and census records, would that be possible? Are they scanned in someplace I can view them?
I would love to send all this to my family members who are doing geneology too so they will know what the real story is.

Re: Lostlings

robincobb01 — 2009-02-18 00:25:19Z

Thank you so much for the information. I know there are still questions out there regarding the kids mother. Do you have any documentation that she is Martha Abernathy, duaghter of David and Ann? The only reason I ask is that my GGGuncle George, son of Peter and Sarah, wrote letters and referred to his grandmother as a Forney. They were so inter-married with so many names the same. She could have been a great aunt, etc and not necessarily his direct grandmother. He also refers to her cousin Daniel Forney, which could be legitimate. He does not state it's her first cousin, and if we go back to David and Martha, HIS son David married Christina Forney and it could be distant. All the rest makes sense to me.

I just started researching this whole thing. Many years ago I was given a book about the Conrads, from 1750 to 1986. I never paid attention to most of it, except the part where I was listed in it. I was in college at the time. My husband got a Family Tree maker kit and had my dad send him the files he had. Lo and behold, I saw we were Abernathies. Now this would have made absolutely no difference to me except for the fact we have friends at my kid's school who are Abernathies. I asked where they were from, and they are from southeast MO where my dad came from. We live in Austin Texas, and Abernathy is not common at all here. I know in NC, TN, MO Virgina it's like "Smith". So our friends think we might be related, and we are trying to figure it out.

Are you a decendant of one of "lostlings"? Is so, we're related too!

Re: Lostlings

esf70 — 2009-02-17 14:55:26Z

Goodness, that's an old message I'd pretty much forgotten about. Actually, yes I have, although I still don't have anything on the sister whom you say moved with her siblings. I now have data on James, Joshua, and Sarah, and Turner, who was found on the 1814 St Genevieve County, MO tax list, and had moved with new wife to Washington Co, IL by 1830.

From more than one source came the tale that the father of those "lostlings" was a David Abernathy, but the confusion was which one and what was the given name of his wife, whom many online databases used to report incorrectly, and may still do so for all I know.

Those were the children of David Abernathy (birth year unknown, d. 1796), son of James Abernathy (d. 1785) & Elizabeth Cox. David's wife was Martha Abernathy, daughter of David Abernathy Sr (1726-1814) & Ann Turner. Martha, also supposidly a 3rd cousin, was commonly refered to as the Widow Bissel probably because in 1778 James Abernathy purchased a piece of property known as the Bissell place for his eldest son and new wife, Martha (also known as Patti). After her husband died in 1796, Patti stayed on at the Bissel place and reared the children.

Re: Lostlings

esf70 — 2009-02-18 16:33:56Z

I am not a descendant of one of those "lostlings" but I am an Abernathy-Forney descendant. I know the Forney Family rather well: I descend from two of Jacob & Mariah Forney's children. I know the colonial Abernathy/Abernethy Families rather well, also: I am an 11th generation descendant of the first Robert Abernathy of Charles City County VA, and have, for the past 5 or 6 years, been very active in an Abernathy Y-DNA Surname project. I probably presently know more about more Abernathy/Abernethy (and variant spellings) families world-wide than you might imagine.

I have also previously been in contact with some descendants of your David Abernathy and have examined several variants of the Abernathy-Conrad family tales. I know that your gr-gr-gr-uncle George Conrad's data was only partially correct: 3 of the children of Jacob & Mariah Forney _did_ marry Abernathys. Just not the ones you have from your family's stories and letters. Your David did not have a son who married a daughter of _his_ father's generation!

So I am afraid that your only connection to them (and me) is via Martha's younger siblings who married children of my ancestors, David Abernathy Sr & Ann Turner.

Yes, I have documentation, which includes but is by no means limited to:
1. the 1808 will of David Abernathy Sr.
2. the 1804 will of Jacob Forney.
3. the 1795 will of your David Abernathy.
4. the census record of 1790.
5. the census record of 1800.
6. the census record of 1810.
7. Marriage records, including Curtis Bynum's "Marriage Bonds of Tryon and Lincoln Counties, North Carolina", Catawba County Historical Association, Inc Newton, NC (1929)
8. Forney Family documentation, including C. L. Hunter's "Sketches of Western North Carolina", originally published Raleigh, NC (1877), photo-reprint 1970, Baltimore, MD.
9. Various Abernathy documentation, including Arvord Milner Abernethy's "The Robert Abernathy Family", (1994) and Rozella Abernethy's 1934 "Genealogy of the Abernethy family of Lincoln and Gaston counties, North Carolina", both of which are among the many to be found on http://www.familysearch.org under Family History Library Catalog section.

Item 1: the will of David Abernathy Sr (dated 22 Aug 1808) identifies three of his daughters (Nancy, Patty ie Martha, and Betsy ie Elizabeth) by their married names, and all of his sons, although he does not name the wives of his grown sons no longer living with him.

Item 2: the will of Jacob Forney (dated 24 Jul 1804) makes it clear that his son-in-law David Abernathy (husband of Christina Forney Abernathy) was alive at that time,
as were, in fact, ALL of his children. In point of fact, David & Christina were about to migrate to Tennessee, where only this past year was his tombstone re-located and photographed.

Item 3: the will of your David Abernathy (dated 18 Jun 1795) names only the son, James. It does not name any of the remaining children nor his wife. But extensive research shows that son James was the eldest and was born no earlier than 1784.

Item 4: the census record of 1790 shows 3 David Abernathys, 2 in one militia unit (9th Company), and one in a different militia unit (12th Company). The 9th Company also includes Jacob and Peter Forney, both sons of Jacob & Mariah Forney. The 12th Company includes your David and several Rutledge men, some of whom I believe to have migrated to Missouri well prior to 1830. I believe that the 9th and 12th companies of militia were in the area west of the Catawba River but the 12th company was closer to the present SC line than the 9th, which places that militia unit in present-day Gaston County, just as was the property that James Abernathy purchased in 1778 and re-distributed before his death to his son David and his daughter Sarah (Abernathy) Rockett. Son David got what was know as the Bissel & Rumfelt places and John & Sarah Rockett got the Farrar place. James's heirs (widow Elizabeth, James & George) also re-distributed portions of his property after his death, selling John Rockett another 100 acres, and 135 acres to Smith Abernathy. The Forney properties, however, were further north, thus the 3 sons who served in the Revolution were in a different militia unit.

Item 5: the census record of 1800 shows Martha Abernathy (David's widow) as head of household aged between 26 and 44, along with 8 males, and 4 females in her household, 6 of whom were under 10 yrs of age; the elder two sons (James & Joshua) were between 10 and 16 yrs of age. As you probably know, very early census records don't name all the family members, only the heads of household. Because the 1800 one names Martha Abernathy as head of the household, not son James, it may therefore be concluded that son James is not only the eldest son in that 16-25 yr age bracket but is barely over 16 yrs of age. If he had been at the top end of that bracket, he and not his mother would probably have been listed as head of household.

Item 6: the census record of 1810, shows Patter [sic: Pattie] as head of household in Capt Rozeles [sic: Rozell] militia unit. She is over 45 yrs of age, and her household consists of 4 boys and 3 girls, all born between 1785 and 1795. One of her daughters marries in 1811; one son (Grief) and that daughter (Nancy) remain behind in North Carolina when others of her siblings move to Missouri. Of the ten entries in Capt Rozeles's militia unit of 1810, I have so far failed to identify only 3; all the others are from the family of David Abernathy Sr & Ann Turner.

Item 7: among marriage records, the one for David Abernathy son of James & Elizabeth and Martha Abernathy daughter of David Sr & Ann Turner is not presently to be found, so we do not have a marriage date for your ancestors. Sorry.

Item 8: Dr. Cyrus Lee Hunter married (in 1834) Sophia Graham Forney, daughter of Peter Forney & Nancy Abernathy, and his work includes not only a genealogy of the Forneys (p. 271-277) but also several other families to which they were related by marriage, including that of Col. James Johnston (247-251). Dr. Hunter had the advantage of close association with both families and I've yet to find anything other than minor errors of omission, as for example, no data on many deceased infants.

Item 9: neither Arvord nor Rozella Abernathy's work contains complete and/or correct data. Both are difficult to follow and Arvord's work has internal inconsistencies. Several times he lists the children of one couple as belonging to a different Abernathy couple.

The Daniel Forney your gr-gr-grUncle George referenced was a son of Peter Forney & Nancy Abernathy, and like his father, politically active.

I can account for all of the sons and daughters of Jacob and Mariah Forney. I am sorry, but Martha Abernathy was not one of them and neither was your David Abernathy.

As for the Abernethys and Abernathys of Texas, many of them are from this Scottish Abernathy/Abernethy Family and not the Irish branches from the upper mid-west and PA. Some arrived in Texas from states you didn't mention. Such as Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi and elsewhere. I may have the parents or grandparents of your children's schoolmates in my database already. Stranger things have happened.

Re: Lostlings

esf70 — 2009-02-20 17:35:41Z

Robin,

"Can I verify what I think I have down correctly?"

You certainly may. In fact, you should not take my unsupported word for it but verify the sources for yourself, when you have the chance.

"... I decend from the first Robert Abernathy and Sarah Cubisha lineage in two ways..."

Yes. You are a 12th generation descendant of the 1st Robert of Charles City County. And you do descend from him in two ways. Caveat: one of them is only proven via DNA evidence and a documented dead-ended paper trail leaving a gap of at least three generations between the most distant documented ancestor and the 1st Robert of Charles City County VA. Prior to the James Abernathy who married Elizabeth Cox, there isn't no solid documentation at all as yet. What there is instead is the Y-DNA evidence of a single living Abernathy whose paper trail lead back to David & Martha's son, Turner and a 1934 statement (sans _any_ paper evidence!) that David & Martha were 3rd cousins (caveat: the definition of cousinship can vary depending on whether you're taking with a serious genealogist or a layman who really doesn't understand how cousinship generations actually work).

I believe they were cousins, but can't prove it. Here are some of the reasons:
1. the evidence supporting Robert 2nd is the Quit Rent rolls of 1701 & 1704 concerning 100 acres of land that had been purchased by the 1st Robert in 1664, a court case in Prince George County in 1692 when Robert accused a neighbor of stealing his hogs, an entry in the Bristol Parish Vestry Book in May of 1727 exempting Robert from payment of parish taxes, and the 1716 Will of Susannah Tillman.
2. the evidence supporting the 3rd Robert is more complete and includes various property transactions (1712, '17, '27 and '39), various Prince George court records (1738, '39 & '40), the inclusion in the Bristol Parish Registry of the birth/baptisms of 5 of the children he cites in his 1772 will, tax records of Granville County NC (1755) and of course that 31 Jan 1772 will.
3. the evidence for the James who married Elizabeth Cox, in comparison, is sadly paultry: 2 years payment of taxes in Granville County NC (1756-'57), witness to wills in Mecklenburg County NC (1766 & '68), purchase of Lincoln County NC property (1778) and it's eventual disposition, and Rozella Abernathy's unsupported word of his origins in Virginia and his death by drowning in 1785.

You have two maiden names in that Robert line that are slightly incompatible with my records.

The 2nd Robert's wife's maiden name was not, as some of us have come to determine, Tillman but Parham. See the property transactions in item 2 above, especially a certain plot of land found on p. 6 of the Surveyor's platt book of Prince George County (1711-1724). For which we also thank the Family History Library of the Church of the Latter-Day Saints. The microfilm wasn't easy to read at all, but it does clearly identify 100 acres previously belonging to Thomas Parham as Robert Abernathy's. And that tilted the scales of our opinion of the Parham/Tillman debate right over to the Parham family. Y'see, in her 19 Nov 1716 will, Susannah Tillman's will names her heirs as: son Thomas Parrum [sic], sons George and John Tillman, daughters Jane Robinson & Christian Abernathy, grandaughter Mary Bethell & grandson Robert Abernathy. Susannah's will is on the website. It too, was difficult to read off the microfilm, but there's no mention of the supposed acreage belonging to her 2nd husband, just a list of iron pots and kitchen utensiles, some furniture & bedding, her clothes (to Christian) and some livestock for Mary Bethell when she becomes of a marriagable age. The remainder of the estate goes to Robert Abernathy, her grandson. We're reasonably sure that was Christian's son, the 3rd Robert, since Christian's husband was declared exempted from Bristol Parish Tithe leavy (due, presumably, to old age) on 2 May of 1727. Robert is refered to in the will as her grandson and in the court proceedings in March of 1716 as Robert Jr. Since the first Robert died shortly before 3 Feb 1685, given the usage of "Sr" and "Jr" then common, his son would naturally be refered to as Robert Sr and his grandson as Robert Jr by the time Susanna's will was signed. Also, in May 1665, the 1st Robert sat on a Coroners jury with his neighbor, Thomas Parham, who was very likely the father of the 2nd Robert's wife.

Your next assumption (indeed, that of many people who have been blindly assuming that everything they find is always true when sometimes it isn't) regarding the maiden name of the 3rd Robert is one that neither we nor _any_ of the experts among the Harwell family have ever been able to document in over a century of trying! And some of those Harwell experts were even more skilled or determined to leave no stone unturned than I.

I have only one source for the given name of the wife of David Abernathy Sr (1726-1814), Martha's father. And that is his will where he cites his wife by her given name. So I prefer to name her merely Ann until and unless I can find a public document from during her lifetime that gives her another given name. It's a rule I try to follow for all the individuals in my database: to document every single fact I can.

Lastly, on the subject of the James Abernathy allegedly born 1698 in Virginia: I have yet to find a single document referencing this individual that predates the undated, undocumented, third-hand notes of Birdie Abernathy Jamison (1889-1989) that were submitted to the LDS archives in 1981 by Mrs Marguerite Sanders of Senatobia MS. I'm guessing that Mrs Sanders may have been interested in the Mississippi Abernathys and contacted Birdie, who died in Panola County, MS. Despite a 2-page bibliography, Birdie's notes do not contain precise citations that might allow today's researchers to go directly to the _original_ sources she accessed. It may have been Birdie who introduced the given names of Robert, James, and Roger as sons of the 2nd Robert. Dates of birth, however, are mere speculation. Interestingly, Birdie missed two other probable sons of the 2nd Robert (or 1st cousins): Charles (d. 1795, birth estimated 1715) and David (d. 1784, birth estimated 1705). And a very recent discovery: a Willie B. Abernathy, probable birth cir 1710, death unknown.

Also interestingly, Birdie's notes do not give any siblings at all for the 2nd Robert, and a recent private speculation between myself and Margaret Ogilvie seems to have tentatively concluded that the daughter of Sarah Cubisha (of the so-called "Cow" document) was very probably that of the 1st Robert and thus full sister to the 2nd Robert.

"Could that possibly be James's ( 1746) father, the 2nd unknown Abernathy I referenced above and the 1st cousin to the 3rd Robert?"

It could, however specific and original documentation linking them is still lacking, and Birdie's notes do contain some outdated assumptions and incorrect data. For certain generations after the 2nd Robert, I have far too many still-unidentified Abernathys in the Virginia counties of the Tidewater area south of the James River, especially after 1750, and decline to speculate in public until I have far more documentation than just a single fact (name at a specific location in a specific year) without a single _hint_ at a connection.

One of the purposes of our Y-DNA project was to verify, if possible, that the Charles Abernathy (d. 1795) who married Alice Short and the David Abernathy (d. 1784) who married Ann Liles were in fact kin to the 1st Robert. Both of those men first appear in records in Prince George County VA about the same time as did the 3rd Robert, and were clearly of about the same generation.

We succeeded. Based on the specific Y-DNA data from no less than 6 descendants of those two early Abernathys, their descendants fall into the category that experts in the field of DNA testing might categorize as "very tightly related" to one another. That is, none of those 6 have more than 2 differences from the profile that defines the Scottish group which at present includes no fewer than 28 individuals, _none_ of whom diverge from the group profile by more than two minor differences. Some of those individuals have excellent paper trails, some have paper trails that include one or more person who's link to the individuals above is circumstantial and some even have dead ends where nothing whatsoever about the most distant ancestor's pedigree is, as yet, known. With no differences whatsoever from the group-defined profile, we are now pretty darned sure that we know the Y-DNA of the first Robert Abernathy of Charles City County, VA, as well as distant ancestors in the groups we have sufficient data on.

"I almost feel guilty since you are the one who has spent countless years researching this."

Don't. Every single one of those of us who diligently desire truth and accuracy in our genealogy have always built to a certain extent on the work of those who have gone before. And for the most part, all of us will willingly share what we know with those who are coming along behind us. With each generation, some of us get closer and closer to the real facts of our heritage.

As for being 'tied down' such that you can't do direct research elsewhere than where you live? NONSENSE! A great deal can be done right where you presently are: staring at a computer monitor that's connected to the Internet. All you have to do is investigate, collect data, evaluate that data, reject what conflicts and retain what does not but above all, thoroughly document where each and every iota of data came from. And not just, for example, "ancestry.com database" but a cite of the actual sources that contributed to the databases that are found on the internet. So YOU will know where it came from. And because internet sites can come and go at the blink of an eye.

Some of what I reference above I tracked down on the internet first and only then went to the actual images or microfilm in question so I'd have copies. For that, investigate your local LDS Family History Center. They're in the phone book, I promise. And they are generally very good at helping but not intruding their beliefs upon you in the process.

Now that I have a few more clues about where Mark's folk came from, I think I'll go see what I might unearth.

By the way, my personal email id is nss8660 and my email provider is yahoo.com if you care to take this private. In fact, please consider it because I'd prefer not to speculate too much. And with living individuals, to never name specific names and attach dates to them in a public forum.

Later, cuz!
Elizabeth

Re: Lostlings

esf70 — 2009-02-19 02:56:13Z

Some census, wills, photos, tombstones and Y-DNA results are on our project's websites:

http://bellsouthpwp.net/n/s/nss8660/DNA/DNA.html
and
http://home.comcast.net/~abernathy_abernethy_dna/Index.html

If the first one (in Florida) is not responding, try the 2nd one in California.

Warning: census record years are still being worked on, so some years closer to the present may not have all states completely transcribed.

And no, Robin, there are a lot of people who think they're being genealogists but who never check _anything_ they find. Just blindly copy whatever without the least bit of verification.

Would you believe I died years ago in a town I haven't set foot in since 1946? Or that my parents were born and died in places where they really weren't? S'help me, those errors are on the internet in multiple databases. Sigh.

Elizabeth Ferguson
Wausau, FL

Re: Marriage of T. F. Bowler to Miss Lula Abernathy

maryachtrh — 2009-03-13 01:52:18Z

Appears in the Terrell Times-Star, Terrell, Kaufman County, Texas, 24 January 1891...

A Wedding

A few friends gathered at the residence of Mrs. Ida Abernathy to celebrate the marriage of her beautiful daughter, Miss Lula. Mr. T. F. Bowler being the fortunate one, and to who is this sweet girl had plighted her faith. At about 8 o'clock p.m. all being in readiness, Rev. Mr. G. C. Cates indulged in a few preliminary and chosen remarks on the past, present and future life. In all it was a very impressive service.

The affair was very unostentatious and simple, making it one of the most practical ever witnessed by the company present. The bride was attired in a handsome brown silk and looked very elegant and happy.

Mr. Bowler's tall manly form bedecked in full dress, a LaMode, presented a fine appearance.

After the ceremony congratulations were in order.

All now being over everyone present repaired to their respective homes. Mr. Bowler and lady taking the carriage to his pretty cottage.

About 11 p.m. a serenade was tendered the newly wedded pair by some of the best talent our city afforded. As the serenade was in progress the parlor door gently opened and the serenading party invited in and partook of a most sumptuous repast in the way of champagne, cakes and fruit. It was a very agreeable surprise to the night strollers. Guest

Marriage of T. F. Bowler to Miss Lula Abernathy

maryachtrh — 2009-03-12 23:58:11Z

Appears in the Terrell Times-Star, Terrell, Kaufman County, Texas, 24 January 1891...

Married, Wednesday evening at 8 o'clock at the home of the bride's mother, Mr. T. F. Bowler and Miss Lula Abernathy, Rev. G. C. Cates officiating. The wedding was a very quiet one and none but the immediate families of the contracting parties were present. The Star wishes Mr. Bowler and his bride a long life of happiness and prosperity.

Death of Otto Abernathy's father

maryachtrh — 2009-03-11 21:23:38Z

Appears in the Terrell Times-Star, Terrell, Kaufman County, Texas, 15 November 1890...

Otto Abernathy returned last week from Panola County where he had gone to bury his father who died on Friday of the week before of congestive chill. He came up to Terrell that evening from Elmo with a congestive chill and died that night.

Re: Abernathy''s in Co. Tyrone and Phila.

mmageeusa — 2009-04-19 14:23:30Z

I have a bit of information about Abernathy's who came from Coalisland and immigrated to Philadelphia. A Sarah Abenathy who came from the Derryadd townland in Coalisland came to Philadelphia about 1893 and resided at 1950 North Broad Street. Her sister came as well but she returned to Coalisland about 4 years later. She was married at that point and had one daughter. Does this sound familiar. mcnally.mary@yahoo.com

Re: Abernathy

wwwmandeegirl88 — 2009-05-06 10:22:23Z

This is my line I was hoping that you could probably help me! I think our Abernathys are related. My g-grandmother was Pearl Abernathy, she died in Bernie were most of my Losh side is from. Her parents were Priestly Allen Abernathy and her mother was Ella Suttles.She had sisters Opal. Violet, Ruby and brothers not sure. Please if you have any info please reply

Re: Sarah Elizabeth ABERNATHY

wwwmandeegirl88 — 2009-05-06 10:04:34Z

I am wondering if Sarah had any children that you knew of and perhaps her husband. My great grandmother was Pearl Abernathy and her parents were Priestly Abernathy and Ella Suttle. They had children 6 or 7 I know of If you can help me please reply

Re: abernathy's from bollinger county, missouri

wwwmandeegirl88 — 2009-05-06 09:52:15Z

I am hoping we can help eachother i have a relative names Pearl Abernathy that would have been my great grandmother and then her parents are Ella Suttles and Priestly Abernathy. I am from southern missouri. I am almost certain that Opal is Pearls sister. The children where Pearl, Opal, Ruby, and if you want more info I can go on so please reply back!

Abernathy, Mary E. in Dinwiddie, Va

robertsonew — 2009-06-06 08:01:47Z

I am researching my maternal line and am looking for the maiden name of Mary E. Abernathy b. 1828 and married to John J. Abernathy and living in Dinwiddie County Va. They are the parents of Harriet S. Abernathy b.1850. Thanks.

Mary A. Abernathy, Giles Co., Tennessee

bclayton145 — 2009-02-01 20:15:37Z

Giles Co. Marriage bond of 13 Dec. 1872 list Mary A. Abernathy to Isssac Brownlow. Also bond of 16 Dec. 1875 list Mary A. Abernathy to Thomas N. Massey. I did a search on both Mary A. Brownlow and Mary A. Massey on the 1880 census and both were born in Tennessee about 1854 which is the right age to be Erasmus G. Abernathy's daughter. Does anyone know which Mary is the daughter of Erasmus and who is the father of the other Mary.