Alcock - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Sir Walter Galpin Alcock

GillianAlcock1 — 2009-11-08 04:42:26Z

According to the family book Walter had brothers Frederick, William, Gilbert and Stanley. He had one sister Florence. Florence was born in 1878 and married J.S. Pearce and had one child.

Re: Alcock Family Brailsford Derbyshire

GillianAlcock1 — 2009-11-08 04:36:15Z

He was my great-great grandfather. What do you want to know?

Re: Sir Walter Galpin Alcock

penang2343 — 2009-10-24 12:08:55Z

Hello Isabel.

Very interesting to see your notes on Sir Walter Gaplin Alcock, you mention Walter William Alcock 1837-1903 who according to my research was the younger brother of Dr Charles Alcock 1834-1922 Master of The Lord Weymouth school Warminster.

Dr Charles was my Great Grandfather, my Grandfather being Arthur Ernest Alcock 1871-1925 in fact I went to Warninster to visit his school and they were suprised to find he had any family, because according to their records, he went to fight in the Boar War and was assumed to be killed in action.

I am at the moment researching John Alcock 1794-1853 and his wife Elizabeth Fitchett 1798-1874, and if you have any snipets of history of them, I would be more than obliged to her from you.

Cheers

Ernie Alcock

Re: Alcock, Richard Beecham

mwikman — 2009-10-22 03:50:18Z

Thank you, I don't have much to share. My Grandmother's first husband was Joseph Burton Bembridge. I believe he was Annie's half brother. If you could possibly send me a copy of Annie's death notice I would appreciate it.
My Aunt's and Uncle are getting up in age and they do not know much about their dad's side of the family as he died when they were quite young.My e-mail address is mewikman@hotmail.com

Thanks

Re: Alcock, Richard Beecham

jbutson156 — 2009-10-21 16:33:06Z

I hope this information is correct:
Samuel Glynn Alcock ('Glynn' possibly comes from the maiden name of his maternal grandmother. I'm thinking Mary Jane's mother was Jane Glynn, but, still trying to confirm.)
Parents: Richard Beecham Alcock b.2 Aug 1863 Morris Twp, Huron County; some discrepancies around the year could be 1861 or 1863. d. 21 May 1929 Morris Twp, bu. 23 May 1929 Brussels Cemetery. He is the son of Richard Beecham Alcock and Francis Pollard.
Mary Jane Alcock b.17 Aug 1861 Baltinghers, Wicklow, Ireland; married 7 Sept 1892 Grey Twp; d.2 Aug 1942 Morris Twp, bu.4 Aug 1942 Brussels Cemetery. Daughter of George Alcock and Jane Glynn.
Samuel Glynn Alcock, b.14 Jan 1898 Cty of Huron, probably Grey Twp.
See Roll#MS929-142; d. 28 Aug 1959 St Marys Hospital, Kitchener, bu. 31 Aug 1959 Brussels Cemetery.
Married 17 Jan 1923 to Annie Elizabeth Bembridge (?Bambridge). b. abt 1896, d. 18 May 1948, bu. 21 May 1948 Brussels Cemetery.
I have copies of funeral notices and found Samuel's birth registration and their marriage registration. I also have a picture of Samuel and Annie.
They had a son, Samuel James (Jim) Alcock, b. abt 1926. He married Elfriede Krause m.29 April 1961 at the home of Mr & Mrs Earl Bernard (my great grandparents).
Jim d.27 Oct 1961, bu. 28 Oct 1961 Brussels Cemetery.
I would have to confirm with my mom, but, I think we have a picture of Jim as a young boy. I also have the newspaper clipping of their wedding and his funeral notice.
Hope this helps. Any information you can share, corrections, additional information, etc, would be appreciated.

Re: Sir Walter Galpin Alcock

penang2343 — 2009-10-21 14:00:54Z

Hi Isabel

I was just looking at Meessage Board and I noticed your note on Charles Alcock(1834-1922), in fact he was my Great Grandfather, my Grandfather being Arthur Ernest Alcock(1871-1925).As a matter of fact I went to his school in Warminster and they quite surprised that he had any family as their record shows that he went to fight in the Boer War, and was presumed killed.

At the moment I am tracing Charles father John Alcock(1794-1853)who was married in 1815 to Elizabeth Fitchett(1798-1878)

If you have any info on John & Elizabeth I would be obliged

Re: Alcock, Richard Beecham

m_wikman — 2009-10-21 04:17:04Z

Would you have any information on Samuel Glyn Alcock.

Re: Alcocks in Worcestershire

jeanrusselljones505 — 2009-10-20 14:50:17Z

I am descended from Polycarp Allcock who started the fishing tacle firm S Allcock in Redditch. His father was William and his grandfather Richard Alcock who married Elizabeth Martin in Coughton in 1740. I can go back no further. They lived in Coughton and he worked for Sir Robert Throckmorton from Coughton Court. I like to think he came from Worcestershire with the Throckmortons and not from Nuneaton as someone suggested. (I do not know that place so have nothing against it) Anyhelp welcmed. Jean

Re: Alcock, Ireland (Co.Carlow) and England (Norwich)

psamp11 — 2009-09-28 19:13:35Z

I may be able to help. What information are you seeking?

Peter

William Alcock; Derbyshire and Staffordshire England

lyounggren — 2009-09-27 01:17:31Z

Looking for folks related to William Alcock, b. 1825 in Church Broughton, Derbyshire, England. In the 1881 census he was in Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England.

I believe William's wife was Eliza Archer when son George William was born.

His son, George William Alcock, b. 1862, came to the U.S. in 1884. He lived most of his life in Pennsylvania.

I'd like to connect with relatives in England.

Alcock, Richard Beecham

jbutson156 — 2009-09-07 17:28:16Z

I am a great grandaughter of Annie Vera Alcock, daughter of Richard Beecham Alcock and Mary Jane. Richard is the son of Richard Beecham Alcock and Francis Pollard. Annie Vera married Thomas Earl Ledgerwood Bernard. My mother, Irma (Bernard) Pryce and I have been trying to research as well. Would welcome any information.

Alcock Family Brailsford Derbyshire

penang2343 — 2009-09-02 13:41:32Z

Does anyone have any info of John Alcock 1794 -1853.married Elizabeth Fitchett 27 April 1815. they had five children. ELIZABETH b 1824 Thomas b 1829 Anne b 1832 Charles b 1834 William b 1837.

Alcock

tink127 — 2009-08-24 12:05:32Z

Hello.

Can anyone help. Stanyer, Stanier , Alcock was born in Burslem 1841/2 . He married Mary Ann Wedgwood 1862 Wolstanton , Staffordshire.
Her parents were John & Ellen Wedgwood (Nee) Bennett. I cannot find any imformation on Stanyer, Stanier except he does appera in "The Wedgwood Pedigree"

Thank you

Re: Wesley Alcock, Ireland, born 1840.

peter_light2001 — 2009-07-24 20:24:51Z

Glad you found the deep roots of the Alcock family name interesting!

Looks like we have both traced the divergent branches of our Alcock ancestry back close to their fork. My Irish Alcocks left England sometime between the late 1500's and early 1600's, traced to a John Alcock. I do not have my exact and specific Irish lineage established, knowing for certain only the ancestor who emigrated to Canada about 1821. And as far as I know, the English ancestry of John Alcock is not known.

Good luck in your search, and if you ever find mention of an Alcock relative that settled in Ireland, please let me know!!!

Re: Alcock in Cheadle, Staffordshire, England

EarlJDavis — 2009-07-19 19:54:41Z

George Hall and Mary Ann were in West Bromwich in 1851 at the home of Georges' brother John. Georges' Son James Hall is also with them as well as Mary Ann's brother James Alcock. John Hall was a School Master, George was a Journeyman Cooper.

George and Mary Ann appear on my family tree. Which child are you descended from?

Re: Alcock in Cheadle, Staffordshire, England

anelia2 — 2009-07-19 15:35:52Z

from liverpool, mary ann alcok married george hall 1848, both from cheadle, any information on both sides would be great, william alcock born 1702 married ann rushton are both in my family tree, I have been looking at the censes for 1851 one and i can not find them, found ann on the 1841 censes, in cheadle, whos dads name was james alcock born 1803, there is a george hall working m/s and a ann alcock f/s cheadle, i wonder if its them

Re: Wesley Alcock, Ireland, born 1840.

anelia2 — 2009-07-19 15:05:16Z

what a great peace of information on the alcock family histroy, my great great grandmother surname was alcock, mary ann, who was married to george hall in 1848 in cheadle staffordshire, both lived, they seemed to move about,from cheadle, west brom, burslem and then on to liverpool, where they both lived and died george 1898 then mary an 1909, there grave stone is made from slate, it is the only one of it type in the cem, smithdown liverpool. I am looking for more information mary anns father was james alcock born 1803 married to mary ann salt, his fathers name was james alcock born 1772 married margaret goodwin,then samuel alcock born 1740 married nancy smith his father was william alcock born 1702 married to anne rushton is father was john alcock born about 1680 married to a margaret, would like any more information on my alcock family line,which I have only found about over the last year,

Re: Wesley Alcock, Ireland, born 1840.

anelia2 — 2009-07-19 15:03:13Z

Re: The Alcock Family of Cheadle in Staffordshire

HTaylor3423 — 2009-04-29 01:14:47Z

Hi,

I'm interested in your comment re Edward ALCOCK son of John.

John Alcock chr c1820 Staffordshire. Married Jemima BONE 28th Oct 1849 Stockton on Tees, DUR, ENG. John died c1862. Jemima died 1858.

Their children were:
Thomas born 28 Jul 1849 Hanley STS
Ann born 25 Dec 1855 [place unknown]

Other children may have been:
George, James, Henry.

This family were apparently in the care of Jemima's mother who lived in Sunderland.

Would welcome any information on the above.

Thanks and sincerely, Harriet

Re: The Alcock Family of Kingsley in Staffordshire

jrpbailey42 — 2008-09-06 12:44:30Z

Dear Philip,

Thanks for getting back to me. So you know where I fit in, my great, great grandfather was J C Bailey, Manager of Doultons in Burslem. His wife was Sidney Marie Josephine Alcock, daughter of Thomas Alcock. Thomas was the son of Samuel, the potter.

I am trying to work out how the name Empson came to be tied to the Alcocks. Throughout various branches that originated in Kingsley, Empson appears as a first name, middle name and as part of a surname. Whilst Samuel, the potter, named his son James Empson Alcock there are other Alcocks listed in census data for Burslem using Empson at that time too. I know that there was a Burslem solicitor by the name of Joseph Alcock who named his son Empson Alcock. I would love to know how he is related to Samuel.

If you are descended from Dr John Alcock I have a good picture of him as well as Mary Bowers, his second wife. I believe he lived at the house you mention. I discovered these whilst clearing my grandmother's house.

Kind regards,

John

Re: Alcock/Beecham

mwikman — 2009-05-29 21:54:47Z

Terri,
Would you have any information on Annie Elizabeth Bembridge and Samuel Glyn Alcock ?

Mike

Re: The Alcock Family of Cheadle in Staffordshire

dnewman140 — 2008-08-21 10:32:49Z

Earl;

Not sure if I have Cheadle Alcocks but to close to not drop you a line.

My father in law was James henry Chalk born in Bednall. His great grandmother was Mary Ann Johnson [nee Alcock] born 1826 -27 to John Alcock abt 1796 and Margaret/ Mary Ann [Unknown] abt 1799- 1800. John is listed in 1851 census as being born in Leigh and is the shoemaker (cordwainer). His wife lives in the Shoemakers Shop Upper Leigh until 1871 when her son Robert is listed as the Shoemaker.

Mary Ann is probably born in Fradswell (as is Robert abt 1830) A brother John is born in Leigh abt 1832.

All the above is extracted from Census data and have had little time to put to the Alcocks - working back through wifes family.

If we are connected would love to here from you.

Doug
Canberra Australia

Re: Victor Alcock b. 1884 Canada d. 1980 Oregon

terrialcock45 — 2009-05-14 16:50:22Z

Victor's father, Albert John Alcock was the brother of my great grandfather William George Alcock. I have information about the family earlier and later. many descendants of Albert John still live in Oregon, in Grants Pass and Medford area. you may contact me at teralcock@xplornet.com

Re: Laurence Alcocke (1630) family tree book

alanjan472g — 2008-11-07 21:28:22Z

hi isabel looking for info on william alcock born 1771,staffordshire england,he married elizabeth bullock 1793 brewood staffordshire england,i'm looking for williams parents,he was my g g g grandfather,,,,thanks ,alan alcock

Re: Alcocks from Ireland

leilalcock — 2009-04-28 15:22:27Z

I am also descended from William Alcock, son of William Alcock, of Kinsale, tho' not the same ones as yours. My grandfather came to Brooklyn NY about 1888, age 14, with his brother Jeremiah and sisters Jane, Honora, Margaret, and Mary and his mother Esther Driscoll. Jane was married to Denis Fives of Scilly, Kinsale, before they left Ireland. Here in NY the entire family got involved in telegraphy.

Where in the US did your Kinsale Alcocks settle?

Tamar Alcock md James Farmer

AnnMonson17 — 2009-06-14 19:17:05Z

Tamar Alcock married James Farmer on 11 July 1791 in Carlton Scroop, LIncolnshire, England. I dead end on Tamar, does anyone have any information on her?

Re: The Alcock Family of Cheadle in Staffordshire

moasmith1 — 2009-05-17 18:08:27Z

Hi Tony...My fsather, Anthony Andrew Alcock, was Tony Alcock. His Father. Joseph William Alcock , was born to Jane Blackhall, age 37, and Edward Alcock, a baker, age 40,in Kirkdale England,in 188...6, I believe. We know nothing of Grandpa's family !. He came to the U.S. in 1907 on the Livonia out of Hull, I believe. I have all the infromation on his branch of Alcocks in New Jersey...would love to see if there's a connection somewhere...there is a rumor of a brother John who did ? did not ? die at sea...looking forward toi hearingfrom you ...Mary Alcock

Re: The Alcock Family of Cheadle in Staffordshire

moasmith1 — 2009-05-17 18:02:16Z

Hi...WE have a birth certificate ...1886 I think, showing a Joseph William Alcock born to Jane Blackhall, age 37, and Edward Alcock, age 40, in Kirkdale, England. Edward Alcock was listed as a BakerI. have never been able to find out anything about JW Alcock, my grandfather, prior to his coming to the U.S. in 1907 I believe. Rumor has it he had a brother,..a John? who dies at sea...would love to share any info. you have or that you would like from me re: U.S. Alcock descendants...mary

Re: Wesley Alcock, Ireland, born 1840.

moasmith1 — 2009-04-27 11:07:08Z

Peter!..Thank you so much...this is fascinating...I will annotate and pass it on to my siblings and cousins. I appreciate it!...Mary Alcock

Re: The Alcock Family of Cheadle in Staffordshire

moasmith1 — 2009-04-26 04:23:49Z

Hello ! Your message is exciting to me because it is the first I've seen that mentions an Edward alcock. This is what I know...we have a copy of the birth certificate of my grandfather, Joseph Willam Alcock, born 1888, Kirkdale,England to Jane Blackhall age 37, (so, born +/- 18 51)and Edward Alcock,age 40 at the time (b +/- 1848). Edward was a baker. Several kind people have shared lots of Blackhall information online, but we know NOTHING about Alcock. I can tell you that Joseph William emigrated to the US and married Anna Gordon . He and his descendants lived in and around Ridgewood, New Jersey ( New York City area) and I have information I would happily share re: these first cousins of mine and their descendants. Hoping you can help clear up some of the mystery about who we are and where we came form..moasmith1

Re: William Alcock

moasmith1 — 2009-04-26 04:12:11Z

Hello ! Your message is exciting to me because you may be able to help us figure out who we are related to....This is what I know...we have a copy of the birth certificate of my grandfather, Joseph William Alcock, born in Kirkdale,England to Jane Blackhall age 37, (so, about1851)and Edward Alcock,age 40 at the time (b +/- 1848). Edward was a baker. Several kind people have shared lots of Blackhall information online, but we know NOTHING about Alcock. I can tell you that Joseph William emigrated to the US and married Anna Gordon . He and his descendants lived in and around Ridgewood, New Jersey ( New York City area) and I have information I would happily share re: these first cousins of mine and their descendants. Hoping you can help clear up some of the mystery about who we are and where we came form..moasmith1

Re: Alcock's of Fenton, Stoke, Ipstone, Longton, Staffordshire, England

moasmith1 — 2009-04-26 04:06:31Z

Hello ! Your message is exciting to me because it may help my family connect to the past.. This is what I know...we have a copy of the birth certificate of my grandfather, Joseph Willam Alcock, born 1888, Kirkdale, England to Jane Blackhall age 37, (so,born around 1850/51)and Edward Alcock,age 40 at the time (born around 1848) Edward was a baker. Several kind people have shared lots of Blackhall information online, but we know NOTHING about Alcock. I can tell you that Joseph William emigrated to the US...and married Anna Gordon . He and his descendants lived in and around Ridgewood, New Jersey(New York City area) and I have information I would happily share re: these first cousins of mine and their descendants. Hoping you can help clear up some of the mystery about who we are and where we came form..moasmith1

Re: Alcock, Thomas of Ireland then Liverpool

moasmith1 — 2009-04-26 03:57:14Z

Hello ! Your message is exciting to me because it may answer questions about my grandfather, Joseph William AlcockThis is what I know...we have a copy of the birth certificate of my grandfather, Joseph Willam Alcock, born 1888, Kirk daleEngland to Jane Blackhall age 37, (so, born +/- 18 51)and Edward Alcock,age 40 at the time (b +/- 1848). Edward was a baker. Several kind people have shared lots of Blackhall information online, but we know NOTHING about Alcock. I can tell you that Joseph William emigrated to the US and married Anna Gordon . He and his descendants lived in and around Ridgewood, New Jersey ( New York City area) and I have information I would happily share re: these first cousins of mine and their descendants. Hoping you can help clear up some of the mystery about who we are and where we came form..moasmith1

Re: Wesley Alcock, Ireland, born 1840.

moasmith1 — 2009-04-26 03:46:50Z

Hello ! Your message is exciting to me because it imay lead to some answers aboout my grandfather's ancestors.This is Joseph Willam Alcock, born 1888, Kirkdale,England to Jane Blackhall age 37, (so, born +/- 18 51)and Edward Alcock,age 40 at the time (b +/- 1848). Edward was a baker. Several kind people have shared lots of Blackhall information online, but we know NOTHING about Alcock. I can tell you that Joseph William emigrated to the US...and married Anna Gordon . He and his descendants lived in and around Ridgewood, New Jersey ( New York City area) and I have information I would happily share re: these first cousins of mine and their descendants. Hoping you can help clear up some of the mystery about who we are and where we came form..moasmith1

Re: John Alcock b. 1819, Liverpool

moasmith1 — 2009-04-26 03:34:07Z

Hello ! Your message is exciting to me because you may have information regarding my grandfather's people...This is what I know...we have a copy of the birth certificate of my grandfather, Joseph Willam Alcock, born 1888, Kirkdale,England to Jane Blackhall age 37, (so,born+/-1851) and Edward Alcock,age 40 at the time (b +/- 1848). Edward was a baker. Several kind people have shared lots of Blackhall information online, but we know NOTHING about Alcock. I can tell you that Joseph William emigrated to the US...in 1907, on the Livonia, i think, and married Anna Gordon. He and his descendants lived in and around Ridgewood, New Jersey ( New York City area) and I have information I would happily share re: these first cousins of mine and their descendants. Hoping you can help clear up some of the mystery about who we are and where we came form..moasmith1

Re: Ruth Alcock m. Stephen Poyntz-Wright

moasmith1 — 2009-04-19 16:46:33Z

Hello ! Your message is exciting to me because it is the first I've seen that mentions a Jane Alcock, father William. This is what I know...we have a copy of the birth certificate of my grandfather, Joseph Willam Alcock, born 1888, Kirdakl England to Jane Blackhall age 37, (so, born +/- 18 51)and Edward Alcock,age 40 at the time (b +/- 1848). Edward was a baker. severla kind people have shared lots of Blackhall information online, but we know NOTHING about Alcock. I can tell you that Joseph William emigrated to the US...in 1907, on the Livonia, i think, and married Anna Gordon . He and his descendants lived in and around Ridgewood, New Jersey ( New York City area) and I have information I would happily share re: these first cousins of mine and their descendants. Hoping you can help clear up some of the mystery about eho we are and whre we came form..moasmith1

Re: Laurence Alcocke (1630) family tree book

moasmith1 — 2009-04-19 16:33:30Z

Hello! I find your references to the laurence Alcock book fascinating, and hope that i may be connected ..somehow ?! This is what I know..we have a copy of my grandfather's birth certificate, 1888, Joseph William Alcock, Kirkdale ,England stating that he was the son of jane Blackhall,age 37 at the time (B1846-48?) and Edward Alcock, age 40 (b.1845-47 ?) who was a baker. Several kind peole have sent me extensive info online re: Blackhall, but I know nothing of Alck prior to my grandfather. He came to the US on the Livonia,in 1907,I believe, And lived and died in new jersey. I recently collected information about my now deceses aunts and uncles, and have information on their children and grandchildren here in the U.S. which i would be happy to share...hoping to hear from anyone with real or imagined connections to the Alcock side of our family!...moasmith1

Re: Alcock, Thomas of Ireland then Liverpool

moasmith1 — 2009-04-19 16:19:05Z

Hi Barbara...I just treated myself to a subscription to A.com and i have been spending WAY!! too much time here...this is probably not a connection, but...I too have nowhere to go w/ Alcock..Joseph William Alcok, born 1888 Kirkdale ,England, was my grandfather. We have a copy of his birth certificate that states that Jane Blackhall, age 37, and Edward Alcock, a baker, age 40, were his parents. Several people have tied me in to fascinating Blackhall information online, but I know NOTHING about Alcock. Family rumor states that grandpa was born in England but grew up in scotland, and there do appear to be many Blackhall relatives they could have been among in scotland..Aberdeen area..Any information you could share would be welcome!..moasmith1

Re: George Henry Alcock/Mabel Boynton

moasmith1 — 2009-04-16 01:00:53Z

Hi...My grandfather Joseph William Alcock was born in 1888 in Kirkdale England to Edward Alcock, age 40, and Jane Blackhall, age 37.He emigrated to the USA on the Livonia in 1907...out of Hull, I think, and died in New Jersey 1n 1967. I have not been able to find out ANYTHING :( about his father, siblings if any, etc. Any news you may have would be gratefully accepted...moasmith

Re: The Alcock Family of Kingsley in Staffordshire

alcockphilip — 2008-09-06 13:54:58Z

Dear John,
I am afraid that I cannot help you regarding how the Empson name fits into the family except to say that my father and grandmother always told me that the 'Empson Alcocks' were direct relatives and were the wealthy part of the family. I am the great grandson of Dr John Alcock and I have pictures of him, probably the one you mention. I understand that the original stands or stood in one of the board rooms of the North Staffordshire infirmary.
Dr John Alcock's various children included Samuel King Alcock, my grandfather. He was a GP practising from Portland House. He was a local expert on porcelain and was a certifying physician and a medical referee in the local courts. He was mayor of Hanley in 1924 or thereabouts. He had three brothers who were all surgeons. I think two were half-brothers via Dr John's second wife. His direct brother was Reginald ('Reg') who was a surgeon and who gained an OBE for some reason. Then there were Arnold and Frank, the two half brothers. Both were surgeons, Arnold in Gloucester and Frank in Lincoln. Each served in World War I and each was a significant rugby player. Arnold played one match for England vs Springboks in 1906. Many said that Frank ( who played for Sussex I think ) was the better of the two players and that Arnold was picked 'by mistake'. Arnold help found the Gloucester rugby club.
The Baileys remained very close friends and my mother who is now 93 has fond memories of one or more of them from 1946 -47 before we sold Portland House in 1948 and left for Africa where I remained until abandoning the sinking Zimbabwe in 1986 and returning to UK with nothing except 3 children and a wife and mother. I was a lawyer there and a partner in a good law firm that still struggles on. At 42 in 1988 I requalified as an English lawyer and prosecuted with CPS until 2001 when I joined the UN and prosecuted war crime in Kosovo. I still do the same thing in Bosnia where I plan to work for another year or so before retiring.
Reg had a doctor son, Rex who had a son, Micheal. They were all pretty well off and went to Rugby. Michael has two children by his second wife and is a publishers agent. I think he is pretty well off and his son, Edmund, is destined for Dragon School if my gossip is accurate.
I have three children, none yet married. My son, Colin, is a lovely boy and retains interest in the family.
Well, that is a bit of update but I will try to do a little more digging on the Empsons.
Someone who may be able to help is the BBC war historian, Peter Caddick-Adams. He is the adopted son of John Caddick-Adams whose mother was an Alcock. He had a very keen interest in the family history.
Best Wishes,
Philip

Re: The Alcock Family of Kingsley in Staffordshire

alcockphilip — 2008-09-04 13:32:38Z

Dear John,
I am Samuel, the Potter's, great, great grandson and am well aware of the connection with the Empsons as my grandmother and father often mentioned them as a 'well-to-do' branch of the Alcock family. I had understood that they had hyphonated their name into 'Empson-Alcock' but have never been able to find any of them.
I was born in Portland House in Burslem which was built or bought by the Alcocks around the middle of the nineteenth century. I think it is now a Probation Office but it was a family home until we left for Africa in 1948.
Let me know what details I can help you with.
Kind Regards,
Philip (Alcock)

Re: The Alcock Family of Cheadle in Staffordshire

leffebrun — 2008-05-25 12:13:17Z

Hi Earl, I know it has been some time since I contacted you,
but I have been taking a rest from research due my sons ill health.
I am still chasing Edward alcock born circa 1906-1907.
Son of Edward Alcock (Farmer)
Married 1942 In Blackburn Lancashire
Died 1948 in Blackburn Lancashire
Served certainly with Core Royal Military Police in WW2 until his discharge with TB which lead to his premature death.
My Grandmother only knew him for a short length of time, and she thought he had come from Market Drayton.She also said he had a sister and that he had no middle name.
With that information and that of his age at both his marriage and death i can assume he was born in 1906-07.
After my research there are only two Edwards born in that period, one In Cheadle ( not a million miles from Market Drayton) and the son of Edward (Dandillion Farm). The other being from Sunderland whos father was called John.
This leaves me a little lost as I have it a brick wall as a family descendent stated that the Edward jnr from Dandillion Farm lived beyond 1948 and never served in the military.
Can you advise

Many Thanks

Tony

Re: The Alcock Family of Cheadle in Staffordshire

leffebrun — 2008-05-25 12:12:14Z

Victor Alcock b. 1884 Canada d. 1980 Oregon

SherrieGraham55 — 2008-06-17 17:33:24Z

Looking for direct decendants of Victor Alcock born 10/17/1884 in Canada and died 3/9/1980 in Ashland Oregon to identify some photos.

John Alcock- 1868-1925 Chicago-Death Certificate

jeannemyen — 2008-06-06 18:35:42Z

In my search of family I have obtained death certifiates that are not my ancestors. One is for John Alcock, age 57 at time of death, place of birth Russia, death Chicago. Parents unknown. PLease let me know if you are interested and I will be happy to send it to you.

mary ann alcock

anelia2 — 2009-07-19 13:32:47Z

she is my greatgrandads mother who died in liverpool 1908, they were married in cheadle in 1848 george hall, they had ten children, her fathers name was james and mother mary ann salt, may be a good book to look at is the history of the cheadle coal fields staffordshire by herbert a chester

Re: Alcock, Thomas of Ireland then Liverpool

barblangston — 2009-05-05 16:29:23Z

Hello:

I wish I could be able to fill in some information on your Edward Alcock, but I am not sure there is a link.

My great uncle, Edward Thomas Alcock was born 15 December 1864, in Perth, Scotland. His father, Edward also, born 1825, Kildare, Ireland, was Barracks Sergeant at the base there. By 1881, the family is living in Caterham Barracks in Surrey and Edward Thomas is listed as an apprentice plumber and painter.

In the 1901 census there is an Edward Alcock listed as living in Middlesex (England), age 36, as a Painter, Decorator (House), born Scotland, with his wife Ann B, age 37, born Middlesex. I am assuming this is 'my' Edward because of his profession.

Although I do not have their marriage certificate, on FreeBMD I found a marriage for Edward Thomas Alcock and Ann Bethia Whitlock in Northampton (3b 126) in the 3rd Quarter 1889. (Perhaps it would be wise for me to order this marriage certificate to be sure.)

If you still think there might be a link, please let me know as I do have some other information on siblings, etc.

Barb

Re: Laurence Alcocke (1630) family tree book

isabelvere6 — 2008-12-01 02:41:09Z

Hi Alan
I am currently on a long working holiday and all of my notes are at home. Hopefully I will access them at Christmas and reply to your email then.
happy searching
Isabel

Alcocks - Hanley, Stoke, Longton

alcockrj — 2009-03-24 10:48:15Z

I think that Henly, Staffordshire would probably have been Hanley. Hanley is one of the six towns that make up Stoke-on-Trent - Hanley, Burslem, Longton, Stoke, Tunstall and Fenton.

Your message was of interest to me because of the names and I have noticed how names tended to run in families in the past. My grandad's name was Edwin Alcock. He was born in Cheadle, Staffordshire in 1890. He had a brother called Frederick. Edwin's grandfather was called William Alcock, who was born in 1814 in Longton, which was called Lane End in those days. The name seemed to be written as Allcock sometimes in those days.

Re: Wesley Alcock, Ireland, born 1840.

peter_light2001 — 2009-04-27 04:43:26Z

Hello,

Sorry, but my Alcocks came to Ireland from England quite a few centuries ago, and then to Canada. But all Alcocks are probably related - I note the names Joseph and William in both our genealogies - but they are common names.

Here is the deeper past of the Alcocks, according to a genealogical service my sister to advantage of when she was in Ireland. Enjoy!

Peter

The Ancient History of the Distinguished Surname ALCOCK

The history of the most ancient Anglo/Saxon surname Alcock reaches far into the chronicles of the Saxon race. The Saxon Chronicle compiled by monks in the 10th century, now reposes in the British Museum.

History researchers have examined reproductions of such ancient manuscripts as the Domesday Book (1068), the Ragman Rolls (1291-1296), the Curia Regis Rolls, the Pipe Rolls, the Hearth Rolls, parish registers, baptismals, tax records and other ancient documents. They found the first record of the name Alcock in Cheshire where they were a family of great antiquity, but many of their early records have been lost. They later moved to the south east, in Norfolk, Suffolk and the home counties.

Different spellings were encountered in the research of your surname. Throughout the centuries your name, Alcock, occurred in many records, manuscripts and documents but not always with your exact spelling. From time to time the surname was spelt Alcoc, Alecock, Alecocke, Allcock, Allcoke, Allcok, Allcoe, Alcoe, and these variations in spelling frequently occurred even between father and son. Scribes and church officials, often traveling great distances, even from other countries, frequently spelt the name phonetically. As a result the same person would be recorded differently on birth, baptismal, marriage and death certificates as well as the other numerous records recording life's events.

The Saxon race gave birth to many English surnames not the least of which was the surname Alcock. The Saxons were invited into England by the ancient Britons of the 4th century. A fair-skinned people, their home was the Rhine valley, some as far north-east as Denmark. They were led by two brothers, General/Commanders Hengist and Horsa. The Saxons settled in the county of Kent, on the south-east coast of England. Gradually, they spread north and westward, and during the next four hundred years forced the Ancient Britons back into Wales and Cornwall in the west, and Cumberland to the north. The Angles occupied the eastern coast, the south folk in Suffolk, north folk in Norfolk. Under Saxon rule England prospered under a series of High Kings, the last of which was Harold.

In 1066, the Norman invasion from France occurred and their victory at the Battle of Hastings. In 1070, Duke William took an army of 40,000 north and wasted the northern counties, forcing many rebellious Norman nobles and Saxons to flee over the border into Scotland. Meanwhile, the Saxons who remained in the south were not treated well under hostile Norman rule, and many also moved northward to the midlands, Lancashire and Yorkshire away from the Norman oppression.

Nevertheless, this notable English family name, Alcock, emerged as an influential name in the county of Cheshire, and their first estates were in the hamlet of Ridge, in that county, sometime before the year 1449. In 1399 [sic. must be "1499"], John Alcocke's daughter married into the notable family of Hargreaves of Lancashire, taking many of the estates of the Ridge line with her. John Alcock of the same line was Bishop of Ely in 1486. Notable amongst the family at this time was Alcock of Ridge.

The surname Alcock flourished during the turbulent middle ages, contributing greatly to the cultural development of England. During the 15th, 16th, 17th and 18th centuries England was ravaged by plagues, famine and religious conflict. Protestantism, the newly found political fervour of Cromwellianism and democratic government, and the remnants of the Roman Church rejected all non-believers, each jealously claiming adherents to their own cause. The changing rule caused burnings, hangings and banishments of all sects and creeds, first one then another. Many families were freely 'encouraged' to migrate to Ireland, or to the 'colonies'. Some were rewarded with grants of lands [likely our Alcocks, in the 17th century - "landed gentry" and colonists!], others were banished.

Some families were forced to migrate to Ireland where they became known as the 'Adventurers for the land in Ireland'. Protestant settlers 'undertook' to keep their faith, being granted lands previously owned by the Catholic Irish. In Ireland they [the Alcocks] acquired Kilbritain Castle in County Cork [yet Burkes Peerage locates the original Irish Alcock in Downpatrick, County Down and his oldest son purchasing Wilton Castle in Wilton, County Wexford in 1695] and became a prominent family in the affairs of Ireland.

The new World offered better opportunities and some migrated voluntarily, some were banished mostly for religious reasons. Some left Ireland disillusioned with promises unfulfilled, but many left directly from England, their home territories. Some also moved to the European continent.

Members of the family name Alcock sailed aboard the huge armada of three-masted sailing ships known as the 'White Sails which plied the stormy Atlantic. These overcrowded ships such as the Hecter, the Dove and the Rambler, were pestilence ridden, sometimes 30% to 40% of the passenger list never reaching their destination.

[Our Irish Alcock relatives did not leave Ireland until at least a hundred year later, in (probably) 1821]. Amongst the first settlers in North America, which could be considered a kinsmen of the surname Alcock , or a variable spelling of that family name was George Alcock of the "Mayflower" landings in 1620; John Alcock who settled in Maine in the same year; James in Virginia in 1650; Francis, aged 26, in New England; William in Virginia in 1650; Anges in Boston in 1635. In Newfoundland, early registrations of the family are at Harbour Grace with Mansfield Alcock, in 1801; and Leading Tickles with Robert Alcock, in 1853. Another official spelling for the family from that area is Alcoe. This family name can be truly to be one of the earliest landed families in North America

From the port of entry many settlers made their way west, joining the wagon trains to the prairies or the west coast. During the American War of of Independence, many loyalists made their way north to Canada about 1790, and became known as the United Empire Loyalists.

Contemporary notables of this surname, Alcock, include many distinguished contributors, Sir Walter Galpin Alcock, eminent musician, played at the Coronations of King Edward VII, King George V and King George VI, was organist to Salisbury Cathedral from 1916 to 1947; Professor Leslie Alcock, a noted lecturer on Archaeology; James L. Alcock, Circuit Court Judge.

During the course of our research we also determined the many Coat of Arms granted to different branches of the family name.

The most ancient grant of a coat of Arms found was:

Three black roosters on a silver background.

The Crest is:

A rooster.

The ancient family motto for this distinguished name is:

"Vigilate"[sic!]