Almada - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Hola Francisco

peteralmada — 2012-05-29 04:53:44Z

Hola Francisco,

Muchas gracias por sus mensajes y para las fotografías, así.

¿Por lo que son el tío de Alejandra Fernández?

WoW!

Llame a su "primo Alex" y ella ha proporcionado mucha

información sobre su Salido /Obregon / Almada

antepasados.

Padre de Santana Almada, como ustedes saben,

Ruperto Almada, y a su vez fue hijode Don José María

Almada, un hombre de quien descienden muchos Almadas

mexicano moderno.

En la voluntad de Don Jose Maria Almada, fecha 1866,

reconoce Santana y José María Almada Jr. como sus nietos,

los hijos de su propio hijo, Ruperto.

El sitio Web siguiente le llevará a una base de datos de

voluntades de

Sonora:www.Colson.edu.mx:8080/testamentos/principal.aspx

De hecho, de acuerdo con la redacción de la voluntad,

declaró Don José María Almada, "que mehan criado y educado

dos nietos de minas; los hijos de mi hijo espurio Ruperto y

llamada Santa Ana y José María.

Se les da la mitad mil pesoscada uno y permanecen bajo la

tutela de mi esposa Mercedes."

Esto confirma que su antecesor, Santana Almada, fue durante

un tiempo planteado por su paternaabuelos, aunque no estoy

cierta lo que pasó con su padre, Ruperto.

Para aclarar, yo,Peter Almada,descienden de la hermana

de Ruperto, Cornelia Almada y Quiros,y ella era muy

estrecha con su hermana Ascensión Almada y Quiros (Chonita)

y su hermano, Isidoro Almada y Quiros (el último haber

actuado como padrino a hijo de Cornelia, Marcelino, mi

bisabuelo).

Como ustedes saben,Santana Almada era un empresario serio y

por un tiempo,empleado Alvaro Obregon, su cuñado, en su

fábrica en Sonora.

¿Qué me puede decir sobre Don Santana Almada?

Gracias Francisco!

Saludos

Peter Almada

Re: The Ancient Lines of Salido, Abranches and Almada tambien

Innovadental1 — 2012-05-04 05:23:51Z

Peter almada mi face bock es innovadental te mando fotos de Santana almada y dolores obregon salido,hermana del gral alvaro obregon, pues creo son tus tatarabuelos, veo q tienes agregada a Alejandra Fernández q es mi sobrina,una verdadera investigadora de genealogía un abrazo!!!
Fco andrade

Re: Almada and Briggs Connection

ABHunt — 2012-02-24 05:23:04Z

Oh! That is great knew about Robert. Williams wife's sister Refugio "Cuca" married my great grandfather.

Re: The Earliest Known Ancestor

lvelasco66 — 2012-02-24 05:01:08Z

Thank you Peter

Re: Almada and Briggs Connection

lvelasco66 — 2012-02-24 04:44:33Z

ABHunt, this is great information; William Patrick is Great Granfather of my wife; Thank you very much for this research. Additionally; Uncle Bob (Robert Briggs) is still trading stocks.

Hola Rodolfo

peteralmada — 2012-01-22 04:23:22Z

Hola Rodolfo,

Muchas gracias por compartir tu historia familiar! Me ha impresionado.

La mayor parte de lo que sé sobre Crispin de Santiago Palomares proviene del libro, "Almada de Alamos, el diario de Don Bartolome," 1859 a 1863.

Por lo que leo en ese libro, Crispin y Bartolomé eran viejos amigos. En su diario, Bartolome Almada menciona Palomares y su columna de socorro llegando a Álamos de ayuda durante la crisis de los Tacubayas, los insurgentes rebeldes de Sinaloa comandada por Antonio Estevez y la intención de derribar el régimen de Pesqueira.

Almada y Palomares posteriormente saludó entre sí cerca de la ciudad de México, en los terrenos del desfile donde el Presidente Benito Juárez revisado la marcha de las tropas federales en formación.

Como los Corellas, otra familia de Sonora entre antigua y distinguida, los Palomares eran una familia de tradición militar. Uno de sus antepasados españoles fue comandante de un castillo o fortaleza en Orán (presumiblemente en el norte de África) y destruyó el castillo, en lugar de permite que caiga en manos enemigas.

La primera sonora Palomares, según mis registros, era Leocadio Palomares,y él se casó con la familia Elías González de Zayas.

El "Santiago" como el segundo nombre de la familia mexicana Palomares es una referencia a la orden militar de caballeros de Santiago, de quien los Palomares de España seguramente eran miembros.

El nombre "Palomares," creo que es un término derivado con raíces en la palabra "Paloma", español de Paloma.

Gracias nuevamente Rodolfo, para compartir su historia familiar de Palomares!

Saludos,

Peter Almada

Re: The Ancient Lines of Salido, Abranches and Almada tambien

rvacatorres — 2012-01-21 16:50:26Z

Señor Peter Almada

En relacion a su post donde menciona su relacion con Crispin De Santiago Palomares, me gustaria abundar en informaciones que pueden resultar de su interes. El General Coronel Crsipin fue mi CHOSNO, padre de mi tatarabuelo Rodolfo de Santiago palomares a su vez padre de Mi Bisabuelo Rodolfo De Santiago Palomares Diaz Ceballos ( A quien conoci ) padre de mi abuela materna Esther de Santiago Palomares Fregoso. Mi madre Josefina Esther Torres de Santiago Palomares y por esta rama es que soy uno de sus tantos descendientes.
Como bien menciona, fue un militar de brillante carrera , habiendo sido jede del estado mayor especial, jeneral en jefe de la primera zona militar, jeneral en jefe del batallon pesqueira, prefecto militar por los estados de Sonora y Sinaloa cuando Manuel Pesqueira era gobernador de ambos estados, fue diputado dos veces, peleo contra los franceses. Si usted entra al Google y hace una busqueda con el nombre de Crispin de Santiago Palomares va a encontgrar un linc con el congresodel estado de Sonora donde puede bajar un resumen muy interesante de la trayectoria de mi Chosno. Me permito abundar que mi tatarabuelo Rodolfo tambien fue un gran militar, comando la batalla del rio yaqui y Mayo, tengo en mi poder la medalla que le otorgo el estado por condecoracion asi como el documento original que le autoriza a usarla, asi como fotografias y un sinumero de documentos originales de los nombramientos militares de todos ellos, Rodolfo tambien refundo el puerto de Huatabampo Sonora, comision que le fue encomendada ya que era ingeniero constructor del ejercito y tengo un ejemplar original del discurso que dio el dia de su reinauguracion, mismo que se imprimio en Chihuahua, estado donde murio a los 36 años por una insuficiencia cardiaca andando en una comision del gobierno federal.

Saludos
Rodolfo Vaca Torres

Re: The Ancient Lines of Salido, Abranches and Almada tambien

johnny_klover7 — 2011-12-11 16:55:23Z

yess our family including me we are from culiacan sinaloa i dont realy understand the birth certifacate but it says a girl was born on 1899 to santana Almada and ponponsa ponce the daughter was named gertrudis the Almada but in the birth certifacate it also mentions the grandparents of the gertrudis whor were santana almada and dolores obregon

Re: The Ancient Lines of Salido, Abranches and Almada tambien

pepejrb — 2011-12-10 04:49:34Z

Hello Juan Bautista,

It seems to me that we are relatives. What was your grandmother's name?.

As I wrote before, Santana Almada Güereña was married to Dolores Obregón Salido, one of their offsprings was Agustín Almada Obregón, who was married to María Cárdenas. They were parents of Dolores Almada Cárdenas, my great grandmother, and Carolina Almada Cárdenas. My great grandmother was niece of Alvaro Obregón Salido because he was brother of her grandmother,her namesake, and a distant cousin of María Félix Güerena, but it is not very clear how, she just told us that she met her once in her life as a teenager at a family party in Culiacán.

That's all I know, I would really appreciate anything else you could tell me, that's why posted a message in this forum in hope to get more information about the Almadas.

Looking forward to hearing from you!

Re: The Ancient Lines of Salido, Abranches and Almada tambien

johnny_klover7 — 2011-12-09 01:07:53Z

dear jose ramos my name is Juan bautista i was inteersted in this letter because my great grandmother was dauggter of santana almada and i have her birth certifacate to prove it i was wondering if i could know more about their geneology

Re: The Ancient Lines of Salido, Abranches and Almada tambien

pepejrb — 2011-10-30 01:31:39Z

Francisco, hablé con mi abuelo ayer y le conté de ti. Me dijo que te preguntara como está Latito Andrade y que si aún vive la tía Ofelia casada con Bonardel.

Saludos

Re: The Ancient Lines of Salido, Abranches and Almada tambien

pepejrb — 2011-10-22 03:49:45Z

Francisco!! por tu descripción parece que tu eres mi tío!.

Mi tatarabuelo era Agustín Almada Obregón también hijo de Santana Almada Güereña y Dolores Obregón Salido, por lo que tu abuela y mi tatarabuelo eran hermanos!. Tu debes ser primo tercero de mi abuelo Luis Bouillé Almada, no sé si alguna vez hayas escuchado hablar de el. El una vez, cuando mi madre era niña fue a Culiacán a visitar parientes por parte de mi bisaabuela Lola, quien era de Culiacán y se llamaba Dolores por Dolores Obregón.

Mi abuela fue huerfana de padre desde muy chica y su tío Álvaro fue su tutor, por lo que todos lo veranos la invitaba de vacaciones a la ciudad de México, llegando incluso a hospedarse en el Castillo de Chapultepec cuando su tío fue presidente. Ella nos contaba que jugaba con primo Mayo, a quién su padre le puso así por el mismo río que pasa por Sonora. Mi bisabula tuvo una hermana, quién ya también falleció hace tiempo, se llamaba Carolina Almada Cárdenas.

Yo no tengo ninguna foto de Don Santana, ni de Agustín Almada, pero mi abuelo si apenas me las pase me gustaría compartirlas contigo, no sé si tengas Facebook, si es así me gustaría agregarte.

Mucho gusto haber sabido de tí tío, un saludo y un abrazo fuerte

Re: The Ancient Lines of Salido, Abranches and Almada tambien

peteralmada — 2011-10-17 05:38:27Z

Senor Andrade,
Gracias por tu mensaje.
My nombre es Peter Almada de California, en Estados Unidos.
Lo siento, mi español es muy malo, pero te escribo de todos modos.
Vamos a ver. Dolores Obregón Salido debe haber sido la hermana de la Cenobia Salido, la esposa de Francisco Obregón.
Estos fueron los padres de Alvaro Obregón, Presidente de México a principios del siglo XX.
Don Alvaro trabajó por su antecesor, Santana Almada en Sonora, México.
Don Santana contraída una plantación de surgarcane, creo.
Mi antecesor, Carlos Almada nació en Culiacán, Sinaloa en 1884.
Hay algunas dudas sobre la identidad de su madre.
Ella podría haber sido Dolores Guerena de Alamos, Sonora o Ricarda Díaz, de Culiacán.
De hecho, Don Carlos y Don Santana estaban relacionados, y de hecho Don Santana descendiente de Ruperto Almada, que él mismo era el hijo de Don José María Almada y su segunda esposa, doña Mercedes Ibarra.
Tengo Andrades en mi familia, pero vinieron de Sinoquipe, una aldea India ópata en Sonora.
Por desgracia, no pose ninguna foto del Don Santana. Sin embargo, si usted vaya en mi página de Facebook (en Peter Almada) verá fotos el actor Don Mario Almada, el jugador de béisbol Melo Almada y muchos otros que se remonta a los orígenes de la familia en Portugal.
Tengo fotos de Don Benjamin Almada (ancestro de Melo), Romulo Almada y su familia, Manuel Santini y su esposa Cornelia Almada y algunos otros.
Quisiera saber su dirección de correo electrónico, Francisco, y complacerá enviarle por correo electrónico
obtener más información.
Gracias por tu mensaje!
Saludos
Peter Almada

Re: The Ancient Lines of Salido, Abranches and Almada tambien

Innovadental1 — 2011-10-17 00:11:51Z

Amigo soy descendiente de santanna almada guereña y dolores obregon salido, procrearon a mi abuela maria Esther almada obregon que se caso con Alberto g Andrade en Culiacan Sinaloa y su hijo Alberto Andrade almada mi padre.tengo fotos de los almada en álamos sonora, tienes tu de don Santana ?gracias y a tus ordenes acá en Culiacan Sinaloa. Fco andrade

Almada-Valenzuela Family

ochilina — 2011-10-13 18:21:20Z

I am working on my family tree of the Almada-Valenzuela Family. My Great Grandmother Was Librada Piña Almada, born Aug 17 1873, Magdalena, Sonora, Mexico. She was an only child. Her father was Jesus María Almada and her mother was Dolores de Jesus (Jesusita) Piña. Librada married Crisóstomo Valenzuela on July 20, 1888, Tucson, Pima, Arizona. Crisóstomo was born on January 27, 1864 in San Jose de Pima, Sonora Mexico. His father was Jesus Valenzuela from Mexico and his mother was Dolores Noriega born abt. 1848 in Buena Vista, Sonora, Mexico. In 1884, Crisóstomo came to the USA and lived in the Tucson Arizona Area and worked as a miner. He died Feb. 2 1911 in Tucson. Librada died in 1912 Tucson Arizona. Librada and Crisóstomo had 10 children. Augustina Valenzuela Noriega Gallego(1889), Francisco Valenzuela(1890), Susana Valenzuela Quintero(1895), Elisa Valenzuela Aragón(1897), Crisóstomo Valenzuela Jr.(1899), Jesus Dolores Valenzuela Ramirez(1900), Manuel Valenzuela(1902), Gertrudes(Tula)Valenzuela Garcia Pacheco(1904), Juan Valenzuela(1906), and Rafael Valenzuela(1909). I am looking for their descendants. I am hoping there is somebody out there that might be related to them or has some information about their families. If you know anything, I would greatly appreciate it. Please contact me at rdpena@cox.net please help me find them! Thank You.

Sincerely,
Rosalie Diaz Pena,
A descendent of the Almada-Valenzuela Family

Re: The Almada Family of Marin County

paulbrasil — 2011-07-25 07:28:18Z

I believe John Brazil Almada and Manuel Brazil Almada were the brothers of Rev. Fr. Antonio Brazil Almada Pastor of Norte Grande until his death in 1937. Can you verify that I'm correct? I'm not related to that Brazil clan, but have an interest on Fr. Brazil.

Re: Book : Almada of Alamos: The diary of Don BartolomeÌ

crazydriver99 — 2011-04-10 04:42:00Z

With the passing of a family member we found out we are related to the almadas and found what looks to be a early copy of this book.. along with it was another book on the almadas called "the almadas and alamos 1783-1867 by albert stag.. appears to be about the first bishop of sanora if your interested on more books on the almadas...

Re: The Ancient Lines of Salido, Abranches and Almada tambien

pepejrb — 2011-04-01 06:11:53Z

Hello Pedro,

My name is José Ramos Bouillé. The reason for what I am
making contact with you is because I have been searching about my ancestry through my mother's side. My mother's name is Ivonne Bouillé Araluce, daughter of Luis Bouillé Almada. I am a descendant of Santana Almada Güereña and Dolores Obregón Salido. My family and I know that all the
Almadas of Sinaloa and Sonora belong to the same family. I have discovered some sources on the internet in which part of the geonealogy has already been documented, maybe you have seen them too by this time (see:http://gw5.geneanet.org/index.php3?b=sanchiz&lang=es&...). I also found a blog through Google that I guess belongs to you. In the link I copied to this letter, I found a man named Marcelino Almada, who is also mentioned by you in your blog, saying he moved to Culiacán, where my great-grandmother was from, he was married to Dolores Güereña and had two children Marcelino and Aurora, but I do not know if there are more children's information missing.

My great-grandmother Dolores Almada Cárdenas was a grandchild of Santana Almada Güereña, she was daughter of Agustín Almada Obregón. She died in 2009, aged 95, and my grandfather Luis Bouillé Almada does not know the name of Santana Almada's parents so I think that maybe he was son of Marcelino Almada.

I would really appreciate if you could give us more clues about our family background. As far as we know, due to chats with my great-grandmother before she died, we are relatives of late actress María Félix, whose complete name was María de los Ángeles Félix Güereña, and former mexican president General Álvaro Obregón Salido (which is
confirmed by the first link)

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Re: The Ancient Lines of Salido, Abranches and Almada tambien

MichiganFleming — 2011-03-29 02:38:31Z

Hello,
my name is Mayra and I am interested in any further information regarding the Salido family tree. I am a descendant of Bartolome Salido-Exoder and trying to extend my family tree from mexico to spain.
Thank you

Re: The Ancient Lines of Salido, Abranches and Almada tambien

peteralmada — 2010-11-30 06:21:24Z

Hello Ed,
Thanks for posting the query; I'll try to answer it as best
I can.
To be sure, while I bear the Almada name, I am by no means
a professional genealogist, merely an enthusiastic amateur.
That said, the earliest known origin of Almada as a "name" was in the Kingdom of Portugal.
In an evolution of language and spelling, the Moorish mining colony of Al-Madin, just south of the capital city of Lisbon, changed to Almada, a change made presumably by Christians.
In terms of the "oldness" of the Almada name, I would say
this name first emerged sometime in the 12th century A.D.
Remember that it was not until the 1100's that the Portuguese Crusaders under Afonso Henriques(first king of
Portugal) initiated an aggressive offensive into Moorish domains that had been Arabic for centuries.
In this process, Moorish names underwent a slight transformation in spelling, for example "al-Oshbuna" became
"Lisbon", "Shantarem" became "Santarem," "Al-qasr" became
"Alcazar" or "Alcocer."
And "Al-madin" became "Almada."
In terms of the first Portuguese to bear the Almada surname,
that would be Vasco Lourenco de Almada (or in some documents
Almadao)circa 1270 A.D.
If there were any other Portuguese before him with the
Almada name, their names are presently unknown.
As you can see, the place name of Almada clearly antedates
the first man to bear the Almada surname.
Portuguese historians say that this Vasco Lourenco de Almada's earliest known ancestor was an Englishman by the
name of Saher of Archelle, who along with many other
English, French and German soldiers, helped King Henriques
capture the city of Lisbon, circa 1147.
I hope this helps, Ed. Thanks!
Peter Almada

Re: The Ancient Lines of Salido, Abranches and Almada tambien

baoysurroundings — 2010-11-29 18:56:57Z

how far is far enough for the origin of the almadas? does it orginate in europe or another country altogether and migrated to europe. does anyone know of this?

sincerely,

ed

your attention please all Shickos in Florida

lookingforlaurie — 2010-10-24 19:56:16Z

I am looking for information about Lorraine Shicko who died in the Mimi Dade area of Florida in 1945. I trying to find out when she was born.
Thank you for your help with this matter.
Sincerely,
McCollonough Ceili

Hello again!

peteralmada — 2009-07-16 02:50:01Z

Hello!
Thanks for the reply.
I appreciate your information on Mary de Borba, a single
mother struggling to raise her children; sadly, this is all
too common in contemporary society.
Mill Valley sounds familiar. Anthony Joaquin's ancestors
first settled there, moreover there is a book entitled "Mill
Valley" written by Suki Hill from Arcadia Publishing, and
I believe much of the history of this town is discussed and explored in this book.
From what you told me, it seems there are still Almadas living in Mill Valley, and that is good to hear.
Thanks again for the information; take care!
Best Regards,
Peter Almada

Re: The Almada Family of Marin County

blumrlgirl — 2009-07-14 07:06:34Z

Hi, I am honored that you find the Almada Family of Marin County so intriguing. My mother and my aunt know more than I do, so I'll have to talk to them some more. Mary deBorba became windowed after Anthony died of the flu in 1918. She was left to raise six children (3 sons, 3 daughters) by herself. She was known to be very assertive and firm. She could not attend her own husband's funeral because she herself had become ill with the flu, along with her children. I just got off the phone with my mom and she told me her cousins in Mill Valley know more as their father, Anthony Almada, was the son of Anthony Joaquin Almada.

Re: The Almada Family of Marin County

peteralmada — 2009-07-14 04:21:54Z

Hello:
It is an honor to receive your email.
I first learned about your ancestor, Anthony Joaquin Almada,
in an Obituary section of a Marin County Newspaper.
You probably know more about Anthony Joaquin than I do, and
I would appreciate any details you feel comfortable providing about his life.
The Obituary did state that your great grandfather descended
from Portuguese dairy farmers in Marin County; do you
know anything more concerning this?
The Almadas of Marin County, as far as I know, descended
from Portuguese natives of the Azores, an archipelago of
islands to the far west of mainland Portugal.
Sao Jorge Island is the island that Anthony Joaquin visited
when he was still alive.
Of the De Borba family I know very little; can you shed some
light on this lineage?
Thanks so much for sharing your family information!
Best Regards,
Peter Almada
PS: My Almada line began in colonial Mexico, founded by a
silver miner named Antonio Almada y Reyes.

Re: The Almada Family of Marin County

peteralmada — 2009-07-14 04:20:50Z

Re: The Almada Family of Marin County

blumrlgirl — 2009-07-13 06:09:52Z

Hi, I just came across this site this evening and am excited to tell you I am a great granddaughter to Mary deBorba and Antony Joaquin Almada. My mother, Phyllis Nerviani (nee Souza), is the granddaughter to Mary and Anthony. Her mother is Mary Souza (deceased). I am very interested in learning more about my Portuguese ancestry (I am half Portuguese and half Italian). I am also going to tell my mother and her younger sister about this site.

The Almada Diaspora

peteralmada — 2009-07-02 05:32:29Z

Hello Jon:
Wow! It's nice to meet you too Jon!
I had no idea the Almada Diaspora extended to the Napa/Solano area, however I believe the Vallejo family once
had properties in that picturesque part of California.

Question Jon:
Were your ancestors John Brazil Almada, and Manuel A.and Manuel C. Almada, dairy farmers?
The data I have concerning Manuel P. Almada and his sons Anthony Joaquin and Joaquin Frank Almada indicate they descended from dairy farmers in Marin County.

I am familiar somewhat with the surnames Macedo and Bettencourt, and in fact the famous Portuguese genealogist
Felgueiras Gaio documented a possible family origin for the
Macedos at the Battle of Aljubarrota (1385), wherein a
Portuguese Knight recovered the King's mace (macedo),
and for this honorable deed the knight kept "Macedo" as a family name.

So, your Almadas originated in the Azores, correct? Then
your line comes in close genealogical orbit to the bloodline
of the Counts of Almada, for the first Portuguese to bear
that title hailed from the islands, and not the mainland.

I do have some data concerning Almada marriages published
in the Marin County Journal. The information is as follows:

Marin County Journal, Thursday, April 17th, 1902, Page 8
Marriage Licenses:

Antonio P. Almada, age 29, of San Rafael, and Maria A. Machado age 21, of Tiburon

Marin County Journal, Thursday, September 21st, 1905, Page 8
Marriage Licenses:

Manuel P. Almada, age 35, to Mary de Borba, age 20, both
of Novato

John C. Almada, age 22, of Cordelia, to Isabelle
Bettencourt, age 19, of Tiburon

Do any of the above names look familiar?

Of course, as you may already be aware, I hail from the
Mexican branch of the Almada Diaspora; my ancestors left
Portuguese territory for Spain centuries ago, and through
successive generations they brought the Almada name to the
Viceroyalty of New Spain (as Mexico was once known).

Though I still have to confirm this, I believe the first
Portuguese Almada to settle in the Azores was descended
from one Joao Vaz de Almada, the Lord of Pereira and half-brother to the first Count of Abranches, Alvaro Vaz de Almada.

By the way, nice to hear you'll be traveling to the Azores
soon, I'm certain that the many generations of Almadas born
and died there left their mark on the island territories.

Marks for their descendants, and their distant relations,
to find.

Take care Jon, and thanks!

Best Regards,

Peter Almada

Re: The Almada Family of Marin County

jonalmada — 2009-07-01 05:16:01Z

Dear Peter,

I come directly from the Napa Almada family. John Brazil Almada and Palmira Silva are my direct ancestors with Manuel A. Almada and Manuel C. Almada being close relatives also who did well in and around the Napa/Solano area from about 1860 or so onward. I do have some pretty detailed history of the clan with a lot of names and the like so feel free to contact me if interested. There are other family names too, such as the Macedos, BettenCourts and of course, many, many Silvas.

There was a Frank T. Almada in our family who passed in 1975 and his brother John J. Almada who were descendants of Maria Candida.

Almost all of these people came from either St. George or Pico. I'm figuring on heading out there one day in the next few years to get to see where the family came from and to search church records to see what else I can discover.

Nice to meet you and let me know if you would like access to my tree - will be glad to share details ;>)

Sincerely,

Jon F. Almada

Re: For Gema Preciado

ABHunt — 2009-06-15 07:06:51Z

Slow down Peter. To clear up some stuff.

the parent is Ernesto and Francisca Almada

There's about 12 children.

So far I know these.

Ernesto
Carmen
Refugio "Cuca"
Ernestina

I am sure I read names of others. I don't remember them off top of my head at moment.

If I have this right Francisca last name is Villa. I am going ot guess that like a Smith and if it isn't any relation to Francisco "Pancho" Villa?

For Gema Preciado

peteralmada — 2009-06-15 01:50:38Z

Hello Gema:
Thanks so much for identifying your relatives.
Allen had posted their pictures on the Almada board years
ago, and I often wondered who they were.
So then, Ernesto and Refugio were brother and sister, but
Ernesto remained in Sonora, while Refugio moved to Mexico
City, where, as Allen had indicated earlier, she became a
concert performer.
Ernesto Almada was a lawyer, wasn't he? Or was he some sort
of civil judge?
Is your aunt, Maria Elena Almada, still alive?
Thanks again for the posting Gema!
Best Regards,
Peter Almada

Re: Eva Delores Almada - Jesus Preciado - Maria Elena Almada

gemap89 — 2009-06-08 19:33:38Z

Hi Allen Hunt,

I’m Gema Preciado, I’m from Hermosillo Sonora, Mex, Eva Dolores Almada Montijo (on the left side of the picture) was my grandmother she pass away on November 14, 2008. She and Maria Elena Almada Montijo (on the right side) were Refugio’s nieces and Ernesto Almada's daughters. Eva Dolores got married with Jesús Preciado Morales (on the center) on March of 1953 months later after the picture was taken. They had 10 children, one of them Ramon Ernesto Preciado Almada is my dad, he was named after his two grandfathers, Don Ramon Preciado and Don Ernesto Almada.

If you want to know more about us and our family records, please send me an email to gema_p89@hotmail.com, thanks for the information.

Almadas and Latin Music

peteralmada — 2009-05-14 03:54:22Z

Nice to hear from you!
I will definitely try the link you sent.
Thanks also for mentioning that Brazilian Almada composer.
I keep seeing Almada musicians across Latin America (Martin
and Carlos Almada of Argentina; Lincoln and Daniela Almada
of Paraguay)
Carlos Almada was a famous Tango musician in early twentieth
century Argentina.
The world of Latin music, as you know Allen, is vast and
varied (son, rumba, cumbia, salsa, la plena, jarocho, mariachi, reggaeton, flamenco, etc)
Of these, my favorite is flamenco-my father Peter Almada Sr.
was a fan-but so far, Almadas do not have deep roots in this
tradition of music.
Thanks again for the note, Allen; now let me try that link!
Best Regards,
Peter Almada

Almada in Archives

ABHunt — 2009-05-12 23:59:39Z

Hi Peter

There are quite a few Almada mentioned in US Archives at http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=Almada

I am listening to a music composer song from Marcio Almada de Toledo from Brazil.

Ida Louise Franklin

peteralmada — 2009-04-11 02:26:35Z

Hello to All:

Ida Louise Franklin wrote three books concerning the city

of Alamos, Sonora, and they are:

Las Delicias: The Restoration of a Colonial Ruin

Cadillacs and Cobblestones

Bride for a Silver King

If anyone has any information on the aforementioned titles,

please let me know.

Also, concerning the family of Jose de Jesus Almada and

his first wife Rafaela Gonzales de Zayas--residents of

19th century Alamos--their known children were:

Justina Almada (married Miguel Urrea)

Rafaela Almada (married Leopoldo Perron)

Jesus Antonio Almada

Antonio Benigno Almada

There are several names missing from this list; does anyone

have that information?

Gracias Familia!!!!

Peter Almada

Re: Almada and Briggs Connection

ABHunt — 2009-04-05 23:37:38Z

I found more information on William Patrick Briggs husband to Ernestina Alamada.

It is his passport with a picture!!

Re: Carmen Almada dau of Ernesto and Francisca Almada

ABHunt — 2008-10-20 19:35:46Z

The Villa makes sense as it was written in pencil on one of Refugio baby picture.

To be honest I think I posted all pictures I have if you go back through the threads. Now to find out who Ernesto father is.

Thanks

Allen

Re: Carmen Almada dau of Ernesto and Francisca Almada

peteralmada — 2008-10-20 00:50:25Z

Hello Allen:

According to Familysearch.org, an Ernesto Almada married

Francisca Villa in San Fernando, Guaymas, Sonora, in 1878.

By the way, do you have any other pictures of Refugio

"Cuca" Almada?

Best Regards,

Peter Almada

Carmen Almada dau of Ernesto and Francisca Almada

ABHunt — 2008-10-11 18:41:21Z

Carmen Almada is my great grandmother sister I have enough records that suggested she married into the Dominguez surname.

So far I have not found out more information other then the Border Crossing document that proves this.

Her parent would be Ernesto Almada b 1857 and mother Franscica UNKOWN b 1866.

In a 1917 Border Crossing Document he is listed as a Civil Judge from Cananea, Mexico.

Hello Gabrielle!!!!!

peteralmada — 2008-07-04 04:27:56Z

Hello Gabrielle:

Thank you very much for responding to my

postings on the Almada Board.

My God! Dios Mio! You've revealed much

about the Mexican Almadas that I never knew.

I knew the Guerena family settled in

Alamos, like the Almadas, but I had no idea

they intermarried so extensively.

I was surprised to read that my great great

grandfather, Jesus Marcelino Almada Almada

married Dolores Guerena. According to my

father (Peter Almada Sr.)'s birth records, Jesus

Marcelino married Ricarda Diaz of Culiacan,

Sinaloa.

Are Dolores Guerena and Ricarda Diaz the

same women? Or did Jesus Marcelino, like

many Mexican men, marry twice?

Regarding the Almada-Guerenas, are Marcelino

and Aurora Almada-Guerena brother and sister?

If so, then they would be the siblings of

Carlos Almada, one of Jesus Marcelino's

children, and my great grandfather.

So your father is your mother's uncle. I

presume your mother was born an Almada (viva

Almada!!!)

Gabrielle, you descend from Almada-Guerenas

on both sides of your family---excellent---but

you should know that this is not the first time

an uncle married his niece within the Almada

family.

Felix Almada of Alamos, Sonora, married his

own niece by proxy in the 1800's, and when I

speak of Don Felix I speak of the House of

Ignacio, for Don Felix was the son of Don Ignacio

Almada Alvarado, one of the four original

Almada brothers born in Alamos, Sonora.

I know you wanted to read a copy of the

Passport of Antonio Almada y Reyes, and I

tried and tried to send it as an attachment, but

to no avail.

That said, here's what I could make out on

the document:

San Antonio y San Patricio (the name of the

ship Antonio Almada and his family sailed in

from Spain to New Spain)

Lista de la Familia que lleva El Senor Obispo

de Sonora:

*Don Joseph Almada y Reyes, Natural de la

Villa de Aspe, de edad de veinte y dos anos.

*Don Mathias Fernandez Gallardo, Natural

de la Villa de Macharaviaya, de edad de quince

anos.

*Don Antonio Almada y Reyes, Natural de la

Villa de Aspe de edad veinte anos.

*Don Antonio de los Reyes, Natural de la Villa

de Aspe de edad (I could not make out the

writing for the age.)

The Passport names several other passengers

(Don Rafael de Habas, Don Juan Joseph Flores

and Don Andres Diaz de Horiesa.)and is dated

the 18th of Marzo, 1782.

I am most definitely interested in whatever

information you have on the Almada-Guerena

and Gamez families, Gabrielle.

I feel comfortable calling you Cousin, as we

are both descended from Mexican Almadas.

Thanks again Gabrielle and write back soon!

Best Regards,

Peter Almada

Hello Gabrielle!!!!

peteralmada — 2008-07-04 04:21:27Z

Re: The Ancient Lines of Salido, Abranches and Almada tambien

gabrielle3105 — 2008-07-03 23:17:17Z

I've been investigating about the Almada's. I'm Marie Yvonne Gámez Almada, grandaughter of Raúl Almada son of Marcelino Almada Güereña on one side.... On the other I'm duaghter of Pedro Gámez, son of Aurora Almada Güereña. My father is my mother's uncle.... Complicated! Jesus Pioquinto, married Cornelia Almada his cousin, they were parents of Marcelino Almada Almada who married Dolores Güereña!! I have lots of information, if you are interested let me know! I would love to have a copy of the passport!!
my e-mail gabrielle3105@hotmail.com

Re: The Progeny of Pioquinto Almada

gabrielle3105 — 2008-07-03 23:11:37Z

The Duel of the Count of Abranches, and the Mayor of Norwalk

peteralmada — 2008-06-01 23:19:08Z

Hello to all:

I've recently discovered in the book "Knights at Court:

Courtliness, Chivalry, & Courtesy from Ottonian Germany to

the Italian Renaissance" by Aldo Scaglione that in

1465, in Mantua, Italy, Joao de Almada the Count of

Abranches, engaged Juan de Beaumont, a Spanish Knight from

Navarre, in a formal duel.

Moreover, the powerful Francesco de Sforza, Duke of Milan,

agreed to preside over the duel as judge.

The source of this material was derived from the Italian

author Riquer, but I can find no further corroborating

sources.

While I am not familiar with Almada family history in

Italy, I do know that in the 1460's, the Count of Abranches

was named Dom Fernando de Almada (actually the second

Count after his father), so I wonder if it was actually Dom

Fernando who dueled against Juan de Beaumont in Mantua.

That said, is anyone familiar with Mexican American Mayors

of Norwalk, CA?

For years, it was told to me that my grand uncle, Harry

Manuel Almada, was the Mayor of that city.

Gracias Familia!!!

Best Regards,

Peter Almada

Re: Almada and Briggs Connection

ABHunt — 2008-01-09 04:15:40Z

Frances B. Fernandez - Desert Sun, The - (Mar/29/2006)

Frances B. Fernandez, 89, of Desert Hot Springs, died March 7, 2006, in Porterville.
She was born June 20, 1916, to William P. and Ernestina A. Briggs in Nogales, Ariz.

She married Robert Fernandez on June 21, 1936, in Nogales and was a homemaker.

She is survived by her son, Darren Briggs of Los Angeles; three daughters, Terri Aure of Porterville, Gayle Lowe of Ashfork, Ariz. and Alicia Elliott of Desert Hot Springs; a brother, Robert Briggs of Long Beach; eight grandchildren; and eight great-grandchildren.

She was preceded in death by her husband, Robert Fernandez.

A memorial service will be at noon Saturday at Wiefels Desert Hot Springs Mortuary.

Due to an error, the following obituary is being reprinted.

I tried to reach a Robert Briggs. I was told on phone that the one phone number of Robert Briggs had just passed away 4 months ago. =(

Re: The Almada Family of Marin County

peteralmada — 2008-01-06 21:06:54Z

Hello Allen:

Wow! I had no idea that you lived near Petaluma / Novato.

Granted I've never personally passed through those cities;

I only been as far north as San Francisco (love the

sourdough bread at Fisherman's Wharf!)

Regarding Cuca Almada, how much of an accomplished musician

was she? I remember in one of your previous postings that

she played the piano.

I've seen the picture of Jesus Preciado Almada, and you

would not believe how much he resembles one of my first

cousins (its uncanny, really).

Stay in touch Allen!

Best Regards,

Peter Almada

Re: The Almada Family of Marin County

ABHunt — 2008-01-04 00:32:10Z

Peter I live about an hour from those locations.

The Almada Family of Marin County

peteralmada — 2007-12-25 20:19:31Z

Hello to all:

Recently, I've been reviewing the information available

on Anthony Joaquin Almada of Marin County, CA and his

brother, Frank Almada.

Both recently passed, away, however I have learned that

these gentlemen descend from early dairy farmers in the

Novato area of Marin County and also in Petaluma, in Sonoma

County (northern CA)

The ancestors of Anthony and Frank were residents of Sao

Jorge,in the Azores,a group of islands in the possession

of Portugal.

I suspect these Almadas were more closely related to the

Counts of Almada and Abranches, and that because the

first Count of Almada was himself born in the Azores, not

on mainland Portugal (like my ancestors were).

If anyone, family members or friends of this branch of the

Almadas, has further information on the above, please do

not hesitate to poste it.

Gracias Familia!!!!!

Peter Almada

Addendum to the Joined Houses of Ignacio Almada and his brother, Jose Maria Almada

peteralmada — 2007-09-16 21:20:26Z

As I mentioned in an earlier posting, the children of

Nacho Almada and his brother Jose Maria intermarried quite

extensively, however I did not mention the union of

Rafael Almada (son of Jose Maria) with Trinidad Almada (

daughter of Ignacio).

This family, which procreated five children, Ygnacio

Lorenzo Almada, Rafael J., Alfredo, Angelína y Elena,

lived on the ranch of Yocojihua(*this is according to the

will of Rafael Almada Sr).

His eldest son, Ignacio Lorenzo Almada, was a bookkeeper

for one of the most important foreign mining companies

in the Alamos district.

Angelina Almada, already a double Almada herself, married

Ygnacio Emigdio Almada.

Elena Almada, for a time, lived on Calle Aurora, a street

in Alamos.

The Almada ranch in Yocohijua apparently produced mezcal,

as did many large and small ranchos around Alamos.

The above information is just a snapshot view of the

complex history of the Almadas of Alamos, but it is one

that continues to unravel.

Gracias Familia!!!!!

Peter Almada

Son - Wiiliam P. Briggs b 30 Nov 1912

ABHunt — 2007-05-27 04:20:45Z

I would bet someone made a simple mistake not know the mother last name. Age and birth location matches 1920 Census.

Name: William P Briggs
Social Security #: 563224898
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 30 Nov 1912
Birthplace: Mexico
Death Date: 29 Sep 1964
Death Place: Los Angeles
Mother's Maiden Name: Alamada

Source Information:
Ancestry.com. California Death Index, 1940-1997 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2000. Original data: State of California. California Death Index, 1940-1997. Sacramento, CA, USA: State of California Department of Health Services, Center for Health Statistics.

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