all i can say is my grandfather jesus alva was born in tulare california married bertha fuentes then they had jesus alva ,who lives in juares juan alva olso lives in juares engrasia alva who lives here in odessa texas my mother maria alva who lives in chicago ill then theres leticia alva who olso lives in chicago ill then theres luis alva living in odessa tx my grandfather he is very old and lives in horizon-el paso tx