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Re: Ameer-Beg

shahron99 — 2009-11-09 03:47:23Z

I was trying to find the origins of my surname "Ameer" and it has been suggested to me that my ancestors may have dropped the beg off when they first came to Australia but I did find this for you guys:

This is a most interesting surname of Indian descent but comprising elements of Afganhistan and Turkish origins. "Ameer" is the early Afgan word for High Ruler or tribal Chief, and similar to the more usual "Khan". "Beg" is the medieval turkish for a noble or senior official, although in modern Turkey it is held to be equivalent to the European formal address of "Monsieur or Herr". Such name recordings in the Romanic alphabet are not found in India before the Victorian period and only rarely then. In this case the first name holder was born in England (below) at Mulgrave Castle, Whitlby, Yorkshire, where his father was on the staff of the Mharajam Dhuleep singh, then in residence. It would appear that the name holders spent time in Egypt before returning to England where at Chesterton (Cambridge) a son was born on June 7th 1890. The "Ameer of Afgahistan" was the former ruler of the Kyher region, and it is believed that the present name holders have this descent. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Wirzia Accram Dhuleep Amee-Beg, which was dated February 4th 1863, born at Mulgrave Castle (seat of the Marguis of Normandy), during the reign of Queen Victoria "The Great White Queen", 1837 - 1901. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.

Re: Amer Ancestors

selmore53 — 2009-03-31 18:45:04Z

Looking for relatives of Harry L. Amer, employed as a draftsman for the US Weather Bureau from November 1906 until his death on September 16, 1918.

Ameer-Beg's

ameerbegfam — 2009-03-20 21:25:27Z

Hi There
I am, I believe one of the 7th generations of Ameer-Beg’s.
It is my understanding that the name originated around the early 1800’s
It was given to my ancestor, whose name was Mr Beg, I believe this is a common name in India / Iraq / Iran.
He was given the India Title AMEER, (also spelt AMIR and EMIR). Due to his conquests
His title also carried with the position of Maharaja of Afghanistan.
Being Muslin he was able to take 5 wives. (Don’t know how many he had). The Maharaja had only 1 Son, whom he took to England to be educated (as did all Royal in those days). His wife, mother of his Son was also let in England to attend to the sons needs.
Whilst on route back to Afghanistan, the Maharaja lost his life, as his entourage passed through Egypt.
I believe his body was laid to rest in Ponchas Pilot in Egypt.
I am the Son of the late Benjamin John James Ameer-Beg.

Ameer-Beg

ameerbeg5 — 2009-03-13 00:39:27Z

I am married to a Michael David Ameer-Beg. He moved wtih his family from the UK to the US in 1991. His father is the same name, gradfather was Benjamin John James Ameer-Beg was born in India in 1919. Thats all the info I have right now. We have also been trying to find out about the family history. Would also like to know of any other Ameer-Beg in the US.

Re: Ameer-Beg

cameerbeg — 2009-01-31 01:34:19Z

Hi I'm Erics grandaughter Eric lives with us so I am replying for him He is so excited to have contact with you and find out about your family Would you like to get in contact outside the forum our email is cameerbeg@yahoo.com.au if not could you send us some information regarding the family and how they are all doing

Regards Ameer-Begs

Re: Ameer-Beg

kab1967 — 2009-01-30 23:35:22Z

Hi Eric,I am Tom's Grandaughter,would be thrilled to hear from you!

I just saw this post(over a year)hope you see this

Re: Amer Ancestors

ameersharon — 2008-11-14 04:59:37Z

I d not know if we are related since the way you spell your nameis without an e as in amer. Please give me more information. . Please email me at ameer.sharon@yaho.com

thank you

Re: Amer in Wiltshire and Berkshire

Brenda2297 — 2008-11-03 12:55:55Z

Hello Andrew

Yes, they are my ancestors. William married Elizabeth Kerton. Their daughter Emily was born in Pontlottyn, 1858 . She married John Jones and they had my grandfather Herbert Jones born in Ebbw Vale, Mon, in 1895.

Re: Amer in Wiltshire and Berkshire

agunstone — 2008-11-03 12:25:24Z

Yes, Mark appeared as Amor in that census, but was actualy Amer. Was your William the one that married Elizabeth and had children William, Emily and Mary J? It seems unlikely that two Amers from Bromham would not be related. Found a Christiana Lovelock in 1841 but not with a son. Regards, Andrew.

Re: Amer in Wiltshire and Berkshire

Brenda2297 — 2008-11-03 10:14:01Z

I found your Mark as Mark Amor in Bromham, in 1851. Father James, mother Sarah.

My William AmEr was born in Bromham approx. 1836 but I think he was born out of wedlock. His mother was Christiana Lovelock. Not sure what the connection is, if any, to Mark.

Brenda

Re: Amer in Wiltshire and Berkshire

agunstone — 2008-10-30 23:09:59Z

Hi, 8 years is a long time to reply, but only just started looking at this thread of the family. My gggrandfather was a mark amer, from Bromham wilts. Born c1835. Just wondered if this was a connection. Andrew.

Re: Ameer-Beg

cameerbeg — 2008-09-03 03:19:14Z

Eric Ameer-Beg here. I am Toms brother. I left England with my wife Elsie in 1948, arrived in Australia and settled in Victoria, some years in New Zealand, now back in Australia living with Elsie with my son Chris and his family. Lost touch with Tom and Molly about 25 years ago. I think Tom moved to a remote area of Canada. Be pleased to hear from you.
Regards Eric

Re: Ameer-Beg

s3735 — 2008-07-20 12:31:40Z

Hi my name is Samantha Flindell my maiden name was Ameer beg Iam the Daughter of John Alexander Ameer beg who inturn was the son of Mabel and Edward Ameerbeg Iam looking for anyone who might have some information on my father John alexander Ameer beg who Died back in 1990 when i was 10 years old you can email me if you want to s3735@hotmail.com

I would love to know what he was like when he was younger....

Re: Ameer-Beg

stevehouse1 — 2008-04-07 12:44:19Z

Hi Again

Good news - I hope I can be of help to fill in some of the gaps in the tree, at least from the UK side!
I'm sure my mum and Uncle Dave would be glad to give you any help they can, Aunt Olive died just before Christmas, and I think Uncle Dave has been sorting through the family photographs, and is trying to get the ancestry up to date.
You are correct about the Turkish/Persian/Indian connection, although I'm no expert, I do know it involves one of our ancestors working for the Maharaja Duleep Singh (http://www.duleepsingh.com) I'm not sure about any Royal Blood line, Uncle Dave can tell you more. As with all these things it's so difficult to sift the fact from fiction after so much time.

You can use this email: sh@lma.co.uk if you need to contact outside of this forum.

regards
Steve

Re: Ameer-Beg

jupass82 — 2008-04-07 11:42:47Z

Hi Stephen,

I am so thrilled about finding you. I don't know alot about our family, the last time I had contact with anyone was when I was very young, I had met My Great Grandfather, Aunt June and a few other cousins of that side. But haven't seen anyone since then. My mum Tina is also very interested in researching the family history; more so since her Dad John AmeerBeg passed away. I have become interested lately since my brother ( and your cousin) Jes'se passed away in 2006 from Leaukemia. Not only that but I feel very lost not knowing anything really. All I have been told about the Ameer Beg name is that it originated in Turkey, and that there is some kind of Royal bloodline. How would I be able to obtain a copy of the Family Tree that Uncle David has put together? My mum would be so thrilled if it was possible to recieve it. And do you know more about the AmeerBeg name meaning and origin? If what I have been told isn't correct. I am so happy that I have met you and I am very excited about finding out more on our Family.

Regards OLivia

Re: Ameer-Beg

stevehouse1 — 2008-04-07 11:12:39Z

Hi Cousin

Yes my name is Stephen House, My mother Iris (who married my father Charles Edward House) is your great grandfathers sister. I don't have a brother but I do have a sister Julie. I met Uncle Ted and Aunt May back in the 1980's when they visited England. More recently I met cousin June when she visited in 2002. You're correct about uncle David having more information - he has constructed a family tree that goes beyond Uncle Ted. I'm sure he would be please that someone else is also researching the family.

regards
Steve

Re: Ameer-Beg

jupass82 — 2008-04-07 10:32:08Z

Hi there again,
Can I just confirm that your name is Steve? Yes you would be right, your uncle Ted is Edward Frank Arthur John Ameer Beg. He married my Great Nanny her Surname was Chiverton, their son John Ameer Beg married Anne Freist, their Daughter one of 5 children is my Mother. Do you have a brother named Richard? Here in Australia there is John Ameer Beg's sister June and Frank or Ted, not 100% sure. Does David AmeerBeg have more information on the Ameer Beg bloodline and history. I am interesting in going further back before Great Grandad Edward.

Re: Ameer-Beg

stevehouse1 — 2008-04-07 08:39:09Z

Hello Olivia

Thank you for your reply - it was interesting to see that your great grandfather was called Edward, would I be right in thinking that you are in Australia? - if so I am sure that he would be my Uncle 'Ted', my mothers(Iris)brother, also brother of Frieda, Olive and David Ameer-Beg.

Re: Ameer-Beg

2006-08-11 14:56:20Z

Hello
As you can see I'm not an Ameer-Beg but my mothers maiden name was.
I have some quite interesting informaition on the Ameer-Begs in Britain. You may already know some of it, but I wold be happy to share any information with you.

Re: Looking for descendents and info on Charles Amer Herts/London

2006-02-17 11:43:13Z

Thanks Pauline. I have managed to gather a bit more info on Charles, including his military service history, and have filled in a lot of the details of his descendants, but the birth of Henry remains elusive. Do you mind if I ask your connection? I have Charles on all the censuses bar 1871 and can find no trace under any variation of the name.

Re: Looking for descendents and info on Charles Amer Herts/London

2006-02-17 11:11:17Z

Charles Amer, father of Henry Mark is shown on 1851 census for Westminster, as AMMER being born in Bromham Wiltshire. He is then a Grenadier guardsman! Hence the name Inkerman in Charlie Amers name. In 1861 still in Westminster as Amer. Regards Pauline (MAC)

Re: Ameer-Beg

2005-11-21 18:37:53Z

Maybe we can exchange the history we do have?

Re: Ameer-Beg

2005-11-20 16:50:29Z

Hi M8
I am an Ameer-Beg, and like you would like to know the history

Looking for Ann Amer Family

2005-09-05 17:28:56Z

Looking for the family of Ann Amer, bap. 11 May 1735. She married Samuel Francis 11 Apr 1757 in North Bradley, Wiltshire, England. Any information you can give me on Mary Stokey would be much appreciated.

Re: Looking for descendents and info on Charles Amer Herts/London

2005-08-30 08:11:38Z

Dear Ann, please reply to me off-list. I think we can help each other. I have recently discovered something that definitely links our families.
I used to be in contact with Polly Avery as I know she is in your family but she has disappeared.
I think your husband is her cousin????
Best wishes
Lin

Re: Looking for descendents and info on Charles Amer Herts/London

2005-08-12 14:19:51Z

Ann, I have been working on this family for years and I can help you out as my Isabella Amer was also a child of Charles.Please reply off list and I will fill you in.
Glad I can be of assistance.
Lin

Re: Amer

2005-07-03 13:36:49Z

My father is interested in knowing about our relative, Enok Fronden, who emigrated to Duluth, MN, USA in the 1920s from Perna, the south of Finland.

Re: Fronden

2003-02-16 22:28:09Z

I just came upon your post on the Fronden Family. Yes, we are alive and well in Maryland. lol. My husband is Edward Fronden. His father is John Betel Fronden. John Fronden and his wife, Grace Ann, lived 20 years in Maryland, had my husband and moved to Florida. So that is the Maryland/Florida connection. John and Grace Ann still live in Florida. John was originally born in Finland, was a merchant marine, and eventually settled in the USA. John is in his early 80s now. He had one son, my husband, Edward. John had numerous brothers and sisters back in Finland. I believe one of John's brothers is still alive and numerous cousins. We have addresses and my mother in law has more. We thought we were the only Frondens in the U.S. lol. Sounds like your part of the family immigrated here earlier.

Looking for Info and Descendents of William Charles Amer Herts/Suffolk

2003-02-06 13:08:18Z

Am looking for info and descendents of William Charles Amer born 1878 in Royston Herts/Cambs .In 1901 was working as an Ironmongers Assistant and lodging at 9 Guidhall Street Bury St Eds Suffolk .Possibly later emigrated to America /Canada .Any info Please get in touch William was my Great Grandfathers brother.Thanks Karen

Looking for info and Descendents of Ernest John Amer Herts/Suffolk

2003-02-06 13:01:34Z

Am looking for info and descendents of Ernest John Amer born in 1874 in Royston Herts/Cambs .In 1901 was living at Lime Kiln Quay,Woodbridge,Suffolk and was a Timber Merchants Manager .He later married and had at least 2 daughters one possibly called Marianne .In 1912 the family were living in Ipswich Suffolk .Ernest was my Great Grandfathers brother .Any info please get in touch .Thanks Karen

Looking for descendents and info on Charles Amer Herts/London

2003-02-06 12:53:11Z

Am looking for any info or descendents of Charles Amer b-1854 in Royston Herts/Cambs.In 1901 Charles was a Rubber Stamp Agent married to Agnes born 1850 in Cambs and living at 99d Ingelow Road,Battersea Clapham London .Charles was the brother of My 2x Grandfather .Any info please get in touch .Thanks Karen

Re: Harry Amer

JMacBryde — 2003-07-29 22:34:09Z

Greetings:

I too had a greatgrandfather by the name of Harry Amer who's wife was Rosa Lehr Amer. Any connections? I thought these two were from around Philly. Rosa had a sister by the name of Clara.

Thanks for any help.

Jackie

Re: Harry Amer

riamer — 2008-02-12 17:37:50Z

Greetings Scott,
I just read your posting on the genealogy web site.

It is so nice to meet you. I believe your parents are Norman and Jo Amer, first cousins to my parents Ely and Florence Amer. I have enjoyed visits with your parents at my brother Paul's bar Mitzvahs. Harry and Jean were very special people to my father and in many ways myself while growing up. ELy's father, Harry, died when Ely was just a teenager and your grandparents were like grandparents to myself. They regularly came to visit Westbury which was always a special occasion for us three kids to hang around at the house to socialize. It meant a lot to Ely that his fathers brother (Uncle) took an active interest in him. I have many enjoyable memories of their visits. In fact, when I was 18 or 19 Arthur was getting a new car and somehow I inherited his aged Cadilac. To a vehicle hungry teenager like myself it was heaven to have my own car even if it was a gas guzzling boat. I have many fond memories of my friends and I cruising in Arthur and Jeans car.
I have really enjoyed the infrequent contacts with your parents and the obviously active participation they have in Jewish family lifee and the Amer heritage. We enjoyed many memories and I cherish the sharing of their recolections of my parents.
They sing the praise's of their successful children and seem to take delight in knowing that other Amer's are prospering as well. My brothers Howard and Paul and myself have commented on the irony that we grew up in rather close geographic proximity yet never crossed paths. I know our parents generation often had cousins clubs and family reunions yet us kids didn't seem to be included.
Thank you for the email and look forward to hearing from you.
Your second cousin
Robert Amer

Re: Amer

xblink18e2chickx — 2002-12-28 05:32:22Z

Earlier I was searching my last name, which is Fronden, and normally i've only found people who live in our area but i found that there were frondens in maryland and florida!? is this true?? i was in total shock because for a long time i thought the only fronden's in america were here in our area, and there were some from finland who were already passed away. We found some immigration papers from i think a great great grampa or somewhere like that who came from liverpool england to america, but also before he came he changed the name from frondeen to fronden. well one person did. this is what i remember from the sheets that we seen, they were big ones that were just like the actual ones used. if there really are other frondens out there taht aren't in minnesota, or new york, e-mail so we can know, because we're probably family and don't know it! lol. Im just freaked out to see other people with the same last name.

Re: Ameer-Beg

jupass82 — 2008-04-07 02:59:26Z

Hi there, I am also not an Ameer-Beg but my Mother's maiden name is Ameer-Beg. I also have info passed down about the history behind the AmeerBeg name. Perhaps we could see what info we each have? I am trying to go back further than my Great Grandfather Edward Ameer-Beg and his wifes line also. But it is very hard. I am trying to discover my ethnic roots as there is a big mix.If anyone has MORE info please contact me.

Ameer-Beg

SRudoski — 2005-06-25 20:04:36Z

Can anyone help me with this surname?Its not a married hyphen name...as some think.I have very little info and have come to a dead end.My Grandfathers name was Thomas Ameer - Beg he married Molly Emm

Re: Amers

MargaretPayne28 — 2003-02-17 17:32:30Z

My grandmother was Louisa Amer, born in Beenham, Berkshire on 10 October, 1857 to Charles and Caroline Amer. Charles was born to William and Sarah Amer of Cold Ash, Thatcham on 4 November, 1832. Louisa was one of at least 14 children. There HAS to be a connection with your family. I have found a second cousin, a great grandson of Sarah Jane, Louisa's sister, in Vancouver, and would love to hear from you and exchange data.
Margaret

Re: Amer/Amor

MargaretPayne28 — 2003-02-17 17:32:30Z

Referring to your Message dated 2000, I have an ancestor, Charles Amer, born in Cold Ash ca. 1832 whose father, William Eamer, came from Burghfield, Berkshire. His father, Edward Eamer, also from Burghfield was married to Anne Chantler in Shinfield in 1762. I don't know where Edward was born. The name changed from Eamer to Eamour and Amer with Charles' siblings. Does any of this tie in with any of your own research? I would like to hear from you.
Margaret

Re: Amer/Amor

MargaretPayne28 — 2003-02-17 17:32:30Z

Amer/Tuffen

mitchfitz — 2005-09-25 03:23:47Z

My maiden name is Tuffen spelt with an e. Are the Tuffins with an i related? My father knows almost nothing about his family history and would like to find out more. All I know is that he was named Arthur after his father who was Arthur Frederick (apparently the name Arthur was a family tradition for first born sons) and they lived/were born in London. Arthur Frederick married Irene Loiusa Amer, they had 3 children but then she left for some reason. Dad knows nothing about her either!

Any info would be helpful
Thanks
Michelle

Irene Louise Amer/Tuffen/Allen

mitchfitz — 2007-01-27 23:25:29Z

Hi, am am trying to find my fathers mother. My father (Arthur Philip Tuffen, born 1936) lost contact with her when his parents were seperated, he would only have been about 4. I have found a marriage record for Irene L Amer/Tuffen marrying Edward S. Allen in Cambridge, England in 1953. She may have also had 2 more children, one in particular looks more likely... Anthony R Allen born in Cambridge in 1956. If anyone has any info on these people could they please reply, dad would love to know more about his family.Thanks, Michelle

Amer / Allen

mitchfitz — 2007-01-27 08:42:30Z

Hi
I am trying to trace Irene Louise Amer who married Arthur Frederick Tuffen in 1933. They had 3 children, Jean, Arthur (my father) and Terry then they seperated and she later married Edward S Allen in 1953. She may have had 2 more children, Sharon and Anthony. My dad lost contact with her completely when she left, he was probably only 5 or 6 at the time. He would love to find out what happened to her...so if you can help please reply.
Thanks
Michelle

Re: Harry Amer

scotteeth1 — 2008-02-02 15:30:26Z

Robert-

My name is Scott Amer, grandson of Arthur Amer, brother of Harry.....

Please e me back as I have just gotten into the roots aspect of the family....

Thanks

Scott

Re: Looking for descendents and info on Charles Amer Herts/London

annjohnson141 — 2005-09-25 18:19:37Z

Hi Karen
I am looking for Charles Amer, father of Henry Mark: I have a tentative link to Wendover Herts/Bucks, but have not yet proved it. The Charles Amer I am looking for was a shoemaker.

Ann Johnson

Re: Looking for descendents and info on Charles Amer Herts/London

annjohnson141 — 2005-09-25 18:19:37Z

I've looked through my past searches and come up with the following:
1901 Census - 31 St. Luke's Road, Clapham, Battersea; Ecclesiastic District of St James:
Agnes Amer 50 Cambridgeshire, England Wife Battersea London
Charles Amer 46 Royston, Hertfordshire, England Head Battersea London

1871 England Census
Charles Amer 16 Royston, Hertfordshire, England Son Therfield Hertfordshire
George Amer 7 Royston, Hertfordshire, England Son Therfield Hertfordshire
Henry Amer 18 Royston, Hertfordshire, England Son Therfield Hertfordshire
Jane Amer 14 Royston, Hertfordshire, England Daughter Therfield Hertfordshire
John Amer 49 Bromham, Wiltshire, England Head Therfield Hertfordshire
Sarah Amer 48 Newsells, Hertfordshire, England Wife Therfield Hertfordshire
William Amer 20 Royston, Hertfordshire, England Son Therfield Hertfordshire

I'm also pretty sure that I have the details of Charles and Agnes marriage by banns at St Mary at Lambeth, but I'll have to look for notes, so reply to this post if you are still searching.
Ann

Nellie Aymour (Amer?)

mcarruthers_1 — 2005-07-08 22:40:07Z

I am looking for Information on Nellie Anna Aymour. Her name has several spelling variations.
Born Nov. 18, 1894 South Range, WI.
Died Dec. 22, 1918 Missoula MT.
Thanks!

Re: Cheshire England

candleslastingmemories — 2005-08-17 21:22:57Z

Hello I am wondering if by any change you kew or heard of the following lightfoots.
I have had a hard time checking out my gr grandfather, I will give you all the details i have and see if its connects with your family.

James Henry Lightfoot. dob; 10 may 1841, born in Bowden , Cheshire, England. his father was William Lightfoot, and his mother was Mary ann somebody. We don't know her last name.
We also know he had at least one sister who's name was Mary and married a gentlemen with the last name of Shaw. They had at least 3 boys, and one being Peter Shaw.

We also know that James was the grandson of the daughter of Lord Atly, who married their chaufeur. This is on James mother side.

We know he was born in 1841, and came to Canada some where in between 1841 and 1870, As he got married here in Oct. 1870.

Anythink you could give me would be greatly appreciated. Also I have the family from the time he got married to now, if we are the same family.

Hope to hear from you real soon.

yours truly

Shirley Wright.

Re: Amer/Tuffen

stevel05 — 2006-10-17 08:35:52Z

Hi Michelle

I too am looking or an Amer, Florence. I suspect she was older than Irene as she was supposedly 23 on the 1901 census. But there is nohing on any earlier census that matches.

She was in Norwood, Southall at this time. do you know When/Where in London Irene was born / Married/Lived?

Regards

Steve

Amers

@@ljb44@juno.com — 2005-09-23 17:00:13Z

I have been researching the Amer Family, and
have a William Amer born 1798, and christemed
at Wesley Methodist Church, Wiltshire, England.
Living with daughter, Lucy Amer Pike in Berkshire.
Midgham Green, England as listed in the 1881
census. Son, Charles, born in Cold Ash England,
age 48 in the 1881 census.

The Amer Connection is with my Husband's grandfather
who came to the US in 1884, and by some miracle was
naturalized by order of the court in 1885,

I have additional members in Berkshire, and wonder if
there could be a connection.

Would appreciate any information you may have, and will
be happy to share what I have.

L. Backof

Amers/email address

@@ljb44@juno.com — 2005-09-23 17:00:13Z

Please send a message to ljb44@juno.com.
For some reason, my internet carrier will
not accept the address reverendvox.demon.co.uk.
I have quite a bit of information to send which
could help both of us.

Thanks,

Lois Backof