Haha.. looks like the whole family is here.

My name is Lillian. I'm Hermann Jr's older sister (the one who's services he so generously volunteered).. I see you've met my Aunt Louise. Yes my dad was Frederick Hermann..

I've sent Eveni's query to my dad's brothers and sisters so that one of them can get ahold of my grandfather, who's in the States somewhere on a very extended 'holiday'. I'll let you know what I find out.

A few years ago, one of my aunts sent me a package full of pedigree and family group chart things. I couldn't find any information about the Harder line (nothing past Maria and Ben, sorry) but if you have any other questions about this line, I'll have a look to see what else is in there.

All the best with the rest of your research.

Ma le faaaloalo lava

Lillian