Several people think the Ates name is an English name, etc. In actuality the name is Turkish. Its original pronunciation is Uh-Tesh. The way the name arrived in the Netherlands and England was that several turkish immigrants went there in the early prior to 1700. The name itself means strong fire and is still very influential in the country of Turkey today. There are also several Turkish citizens that have come to the US recently whose last name is Ates and some of them have been able to verify this information for me. If nothing else take a look at the happenings in Afghanistan wasn't one of the heads of the Taliban's last names Atef, and the prnunciation was Uh-Tef. Now this is no similarity or minor coincidence. No to mention countless Ates' from colonial times have been noted to have a dark complexion and hair. I have even hear of some that came to the US with more than one wife. Now having more than one wife is not a Christian tradition (other than the mormons). It might be hard for those persons whose last name is Ates and are living their lives here in the US as caucasians to believe they are possibly one ounce anything other than, but from all the digging and proding, not to mention the way I have been treated all my life by muslims and arab persons in general. It all seems to fit. If you don't believe me just go to your local arab neighborhood and write your name down on paper and see what they say. It also explains why so many Ates men have the first name Thomas. The firstname Tomatakis is very popular among the Turkish Ates' and from those that i have spoken with it is widely agreed that in arriving at a Christian country it would make the most sense to adopt the Christian name which is most closely associated which would be Thomas.