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    <pubDate>2009-09-22 22:39:57Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Dot Bagnall</title>
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      <description>Hi, I am not sure if I can solve your mystery, but I hope I can point you in hopefully the right direction. I think your grandfather Ernest Albert Bagnall may have married in March quarter 1891 in Chorlton, to Charlotte Elizabeth A Herklots.&lt;br&gt;I have studied the 1891 census page for Ernest Albert and “Dot” in Wales, and I wondered if the letter “D” in Dot could possibly be a letter “L” which could make Lot, possibly short for Lottie? or Charlotte? &lt;br&gt;I found Ernest Albert in 1901 living with Mary Johnson in Bournmouth, but cannot find a Charlotte Elizabeth Bagnall anywhere in 1901. I found Ernest Albert in 1911 with your father David Ernest aged 4, still living in Bournmouth with Mary Johnson. I also found in 1911 a Charlotte Elizabeth Annie Bagnall, Teacher aged 47 and living in London, recorded as married for 20 years, and born in Bengal India.&lt;br&gt;I see that the birth of your father, David Ernest Bagnall was registered in Christchurch in 1906. I also found a death registered in Christchurch for Charlotte E A Bagnall aged 57 in 1920. The age of 57 in 1920 agrees almost exactly with the age of “Dot” in the 1891 census.&lt;br&gt;I realise that none of this is proof, but I think it would be well worthwhile to order the marriage certificate for Ernest Albert Bagnall, married in Chorlton in 1891.&lt;br&gt;If you would like more details you can contact me directly at: &lt;a href="mailto://bagnalls99@hotmail.com"&gt;bagnalls99@hotmail.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Patrick&lt;br&gt;</description>
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      <title>Dot Bagnall</title>
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      <description>I have a mystery so solve. My Fathers Father, Ernest Albert Bagnall was living in Bournemouth and 'married' to Mary Elizabeth Johnson in 1906 when my Father was born, we have only discovered recently that they weren't married, but i've since found Ernest Albert in the 1891 census in Wales - as a Visitor - but with a Wife(?) Dot, who was born in Bengal India in 1864, i have found no other trace of Dot (is she Dorothy?) no birth, marriage or death notices, she seems to disappear. My Father has no known brothers or sisters, but could maybe have half siblings from Ernest's marriage to Dot, please can someone help.</description>
      <pubDate>2009-09-20 14:18:21Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Samuel Bagnall born 1845 in Derby, UK</title>
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      <description>Sorry I have no links to Liverpool that I am aware of and my ancestor, Samuel, was married to Hannah.   Hope you are successful in your searches</description>
      <pubDate>2009-08-24 18:00:52Z</pubDate>
      <author>AdrianBagnall</author>
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      <title>Re: Samuel Bagnall born 1845 in Derby, UK</title>
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      <description>Hi Adrian, My GM 's mother was Amelia Jane Bagnall her husband was Samuel but they lived in Liverpool. Do you have any roots there? Susan Peel</description>
      <pubDate>2009-08-24 17:18:26Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: William Bagnall b-c 1803 Sheffield Yorkshire</title>
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      <description>There is a William Bagnall father and Honora mother on the birth certificate of a William Bagnall born NSW in 1828 (Reg: V1828731/1828). I am going to order this as I am trying to trace a William Bagnall father of Victoria Annie Bagnall. Don't suppose this helps much&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2009-08-15 01:51:03Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Samuel Bagnall born 1845 in Derby, UK</title>
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      <description>my name is simon craig bagnall and i was born in nottingham in march 1977 and i no nothing about my fathers side of the family all i know is name is stan or stanley could you help please</description>
      <pubDate>2009-08-10 22:33:40Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Death of Mrs. Lillie Ada Bagnall in Japan</title>
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      <description>Anyone interested in a copy of the U.S. Department of State's "Report of the Death of an American Citizen" for Mrs. Lillie Ada Bagnall, please contact me so I can conduct research to locate the record.  Mrs. Bagnall died in Japan on December 1, 1911.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dave Ellison&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="mailto://davwayell@aol.com"&gt;davwayell@aol.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2009-07-26 14:31:21Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Richard William Bagnall m. Margaret Lyons?</title>
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      <description>Searching for John Bagnall b. abt 1792 m. Eliza. Two sons, William Mercer Bagnall b. abt 1835 and ? Bagnall b. abt 1836 somewhere in England. John and his family immigrated to Jamaica circa 1845 then to Canada circa 1850 then to Ohio. John changed his name to Rivers once in Canada (I believe to cover his "wrongdoings" in Jamaica).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Could your baptism listing for John and Elizabeth Bagnall (with children: Richard 1827, Richard 1929 &amp;amp; William 1835) be one and the same?? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Most Appreciatively,&lt;br&gt;Betty </description>
      <pubDate>2009-06-27 10:09:33Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Samuel Bagnall born 1845 in Derby, UK</title>
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      <description>Adrian,do you have any info on who Samuel's father was and did he have any siblings? My g. grandfather was Samuel(no birth date and I do not have wife's name.  On mY g. grandmother's(Sarah A. Bagnall Joines) marriage certificate,it has samuel as father and Hannah Bagnall as a witness. Thank you!</description>
      <pubDate>2009-06-01 03:16:20Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Micheal w bagnall born1842 irland police officer</title>
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      <description>Micheal w bagnall married  kate  e  looking for any info they moved to england and had several children</description>
      <pubDate>2009-05-16 00:34:55Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Samuel Bagnall born 1845 in Derby, UK</title>
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      <description>Not sure if you will get this after so many years have passed but I just read your search for info on Samuel Bagnall and wife Hannah in Derby.  Mt great grandparents were Samuel &amp;amp; Hannah Bagnall, in Derby.  The birth dates you specified do not quite match however.  I have:  Samuel b: 5 May 1852 Buried: 14 Feb 1929. He married Hannah Mansfield FOWKES on 16 July 1871 in Derby.  Hannah I have b: 9 June 1853 in Manchester.  Buried: 30 Sept 1939 in Derby.  If you feel this might be the persons you seek, I have masses more information on their direct line and the wider family.  Hope this reaches you.</description>
      <pubDate>2009-04-08 16:48:07Z</pubDate>
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      <title>John Bagnall Family ENGLAND --&amp;gt; JAMAICA --&amp;gt; CANADA --&amp;gt; USA</title>
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      <description>Looking for a Bagnall Family (unsure of correct spelling) originally from England. Possible first names of John and Eliza. They traveled to Jamaica around the late 1840's when Jamaica was under English control. John was sent to start a school for the English Government. They fled Jamaica around the early 1850's with all of the school money. They were said to have sailed to Canada, then to the US and changed their last name to RIVERS. I have found them in the Ohio 1860 Census. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyone know of this family? Thanks :o)&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2009-03-12 02:56:00Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Bagnall family Birth/Marriage/Death records Yorkshire around 1901.</title>
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      <description>Hi everyone,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have Bagnalls from Sandal magna on my Bagnall website. The address is given below. If you need any help to navigate the site you can contact me directly from the Main Section of the website on the Homepage.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Patrick&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bagnalls99/index.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bagnalls99...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2008-10-15 22:20:25Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Bagnall family Birth/Marriage/Death records Yorkshire around 1901.</title>
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      <description>Hi Sue,&lt;br&gt;Thanks for replying.  Not sure if same family can only trace back to 1800 then not able to find much.  WHere in Sheffield did they move to?  My family were from around Wadsley area.  Have you also posted about Wastnidge family?,  I am related to John James Wastnidge.  Thought I say a tree of yours on Ansestry with the same details at mine.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards &lt;br&gt;Paula </description>
      <pubDate>2008-10-11 09:14:52Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Bagnall family Birth/Marriage/Death records Yorkshire around 1901.</title>
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      <description>Hi you said that you had Bagnall relatives from Sheffield, mine are from Sandal Magna, Wakefield area. Do you have the same family? My grandparents moved to Sheffield when they married.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;regards&lt;br&gt;Sue</description>
      <pubDate>2008-10-10 18:20:47Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Bagnall family Birth/Marriage/Death records Yorkshire around 1901.</title>
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      <description>HI Susan,&lt;br&gt;I have Bagnalls from the Sheffield area in my tree.  My relatives came from Wadsley area.  I also have Wastnidge relatives.  Would like to here from you as some of my family tree seems to match yours.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards&lt;br&gt;Paula Stones.</description>
      <pubDate>2008-10-10 14:20:46Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Bagnalls of Altrincham</title>
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      <description>i may be related all i knoe is i might have a grt aunty i have traced some to bury heywood and im still looking can i have your info on bagnalls and i will be able to tell more thanks tracy rix</description>
      <pubDate>2008-08-05 15:28:58Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: George Joseph Hilton Bagnall</title>
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      <description>The Bagnalls I am am working on also come from Birmingham and we recently got the results of a DNA test and the results were kind of surprising.&lt;br&gt;I would like to find out if the Bagnalls you and I are working on are connected in any way.&lt;br&gt;Want to compare notes?&lt;br&gt;My email addy is liz @ semlab.com  (no spaces)&lt;br&gt;Liz</description>
      <pubDate>2008-05-30 20:30:20Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Bagnall's in Greater London (St.Giles, St. Pancras and more)</title>
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      <description>Hi, &lt;br&gt;I have Richard Chas Bagnall b 1829 married to Hanna or Anna Clinch b. 1824 (not 1817?.  Married in 1857, son James Bagnall b. 1867.  If I'm right, James is GGGrandad to my husband, GGGG to my boys!.  I agree they do seem a bit old for parents but too young for grandparents.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Have no certificates yet but have done much research through censuses (Censi) and LDS etc to double check.  I'm interested in your views on these people and their relationships as it could mean I'm way off target.  Be happy for you to see my tree!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers&lt;br&gt;Jill Bagnll</description>
      <pubDate>2007-09-07 15:54:36Z</pubDate>
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      <title>William Bagnall b-c 1803 Sheffield Yorkshire</title>
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      <description>Hi I am seeking information on a William Bagnall born c1803 Sheffield occupation Cutter, transported to Australia 1827 for 14 years for highway robbery his trial was in York Assizes 16 march 1926 married a Honora Geary in Australia 1835 mostly after English information any help greatley appreciated </description>
      <pubDate>2007-08-04 11:59:08Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Family History Site</title>
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      <description>Hi Stella, have you had any luck lately?? We have tied up many loose ends on the Richard Bagnall side, if you are interested.</description>
      <pubDate>2007-08-06 01:15:50Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Benjamin Bagnall,  b. abt. 1699 in England</title>
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      <description>Benjamin Bagnall, Born: about 1689, England.  Died: 11 Jul 1773, Boston MA.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He worked from circa 1713 to 1771 as a clockmaker in Boston MA. &lt;br&gt;He produced the earliest tall case clocks in Boston. The quality of his work is reflected by a commission in 1717 from the city selectmen to build a clock for the old meeting house. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Master to Benjamin Bagnall c 1729-1736 in Boston MA.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Master to Samuel Bagnall c 1732-1739 in Boston MA. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obituary: 11 Jul 1773, Boston MA.  He is described as a Quaker and a native of England, where he trained as a clock-and watchmaker.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Benjamin married Elizabeth Shove on 16 Jun 1713 in Boston MA. (Elizabeth Shove was born about 1696 in Charlestown MA.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Children of Benjamin and Elizabeth:&lt;br&gt;Benjamin Bagnall &lt;br&gt;Samuel Bagnall  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Benjamin next married Sarah Redwood on 28 Sep 1752 in Boston MA. (Sarah Redwood was born on 19 Oct 1702 in Antigua West Indies and died on 3 Jan 1791 in Cranston RI.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am not related to this family, just passing on this information, which comes from a website called "American Silversmiths."  The link for the site is listed below.&lt;br&gt;Joyce&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~silversmiths/makers/silversmiths/names1.htm" target="_blank"&gt;http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~silversmiths/makers...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2007-03-17 02:11:18Z</pubDate>
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      <title>John Bagnall </title>
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      <description>Any additional information would be much appreciated on John Bagnall, born in Denton, Lancashire around 1823, who was married to Caroline Ashton and had daughter Elizabeth (born 1849) and son William (born 1850). From the marriage certificate of 4th March 1849 I know that his father was a weaver, also named John. I am particularly interested in finding out John Jr.'s date of death, somewhere between 1851 and 1871, and the family's whereabouts at the time of the 1861 census.   </description>
      <pubDate>2008-03-16 11:45:00Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: George Joseph Hilton Bagnall</title>
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      <description>Hi Liz,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'm still working on the Birmingham Bagnalls, but I don't have much new info since my original post. I'm always happy to discuss genealogy for any of my families. What is your interest in the Bagnalls?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,&lt;br&gt;Clark&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2008-05-30 20:25:29Z</pubDate>
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      <title>George Joseph Hilton Bagnall</title>
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      <description>Looking for birthplace of George Joseph Hilton Bagnall (or Joseph George Hilton Bagnall or George Joseph Hinton Bagnall) born, England, c. 1822. The 1851 census says he was born in Birmingham, but I have been unable to find his birth there, and I now believe he may have been born elsewhere and moved to Birmingham with his family at an early age.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He married, 1845, Elizabeth Hope Madden in Birmingham. He and Elizabeth moved to London shortly thereafter.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;According to his marriage record, his father was Edward Bagnall, a mining engineer. Edward was apparently the Edward Bagnall, civil engineer and minerals agent, who had offices in Baskerville House, Birmingham, in 1830.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By family tradition, his mother was a Bray, but I do not have her given name. According to the same tradition, she had a brother, John Bray of London. I have original documents concerning this John Bray that have been passed down in the family, which gives some credibility to the family lore.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Children of Joseph George Hilton and Elizabeth Hope (Madden) Bagnall, born in Greater London:&lt;br&gt;1. Helen Amelia Bagnall, b. 1848.&lt;br&gt;2. Henry Bagnall, b. 1852 (died young).&lt;br&gt;3. Reginald Bray Bagnall, b. 1856.&lt;br&gt;4. Herbert Bray Bagnall, b. 1860.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Has anyone come across this family?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Clark H. Bagnall&lt;br&gt;Nashua, NH, USA&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2007-09-05 02:10:08Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Bagnall's in Carlisle, Cumberland</title>
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      <description>&lt;br&gt;Hi&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'm looking for Bagnall family, who in 1851 census claim they are from Carlisle. There is no trace of them at the 1841 census or 1861. Ellen &amp;amp; her sisters Ann &amp;amp; Mary are living in the same house in 1871 (with my great great GrandfatherGeorge Oliphant + his sister Charlotte) In 1881 Ellen is living in a house where my great grandfather John Oliphant is a little boy (his father is living in Newcastle &amp;amp; mother is in hospital).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am fascinated why this woman would take care of two generations of my family, who are the hardest for me to track down, despite having a distinctive name.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Any help grateful&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lynne&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2007-06-19 18:38:44Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Bagnall's in Carlisle, Cumberland</title>
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      <description>Found the link!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They were linked by second and even third marriages and by merging families!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ellen was George'stepsister  and John's step aunty</description>
      <pubDate>2007-10-21 15:13:45Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Hello Jenny&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Edward Bagnall living in Lime St in 1851 is my 5g grandfather , so we appear to be distant cousins .&lt;br&gt;I'm afraid I've come up against the same brick wall as you have as regards Joshua,Edward and Richard.I can find no baptism records that match their ages as recorded on census or burial records.If they are all brothers it may be significant that they all named early sons Joshua (possibly their Father).There is a Joshua buried at Winlaton (1836) that would fit ( see below).&lt;br&gt;As regards Isabella there appears to be a significant gap (1806-19) between the baptisms of Joshua and Ann's children.It may be that she was not baptised (there are children in  the burial register at Ryton who do not match the baptism record)or she may have been baptised elsewhere,possibly All Saints (the parish covering Lime St).I know Edward was resident there as early as 1827 as he is recorded in a trade directory of that year.Also a 3 year old William Bagnall was buried at Ryton in 1820 but is recorded as coming from All Saints.( The IGI has a gap in baps for All Saints 1812-33!). I will try and follow this up  when I next visit Tyne and Wear records office.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here are the Bagnall burials for Ryton and Winlaton (marked R or W)1813-39.They are all recorded as coming from Winlaton,  apart from the two entries shown.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ann 11 Apr 1836 W, 5&lt;br&gt;Eleanor 11 Jan 1836 W, 90&lt;br&gt;Elis. Isabella 24 Apr 1833 W, 1&lt;br&gt;Ellen 24 Apr 1833 W, 3&lt;br&gt;Hannah 30 Jul 1814 R, 3&lt;br&gt;Isaac 21 Jun 1820 R, 36&lt;br&gt;Isabella 26 May 1824 R, 3y 6m&lt;br&gt;Isabella 28 Aug 1827 R, 53&lt;br&gt;John Sidaway 23 Dec 1824 R, 2y 6m&lt;br&gt;Joseph 17 Aug 1838 R, 61&lt;br&gt;Joshua 5 Sep 1834 W, 20w&lt;br&gt;Joshua 20 Mar 1836 W, 93&lt;br&gt;Joshua 9 Feb 1838 R, 39&lt;br&gt;Richard 5 Apr 1826 W, 57&lt;br&gt;Richard 14 Jun 1827 R, 10d, of Quarry House&lt;br&gt;Sarah 1 Nov 1839 R, 39&lt;br&gt;William 3 May 1820 R, 3, of All Saints&lt;br&gt;William 25 May 1828 R, 6&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This information is taken from an index and not the original and as such should be used with the usual caution.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fred</description>
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      <description>Hello Ann-Marie&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thought I would post the Bagnall baptisms 1813-39 Ryton (&amp;amp; Winlaton)for your information, as they are not covered by the IGI.&lt;br&gt;I've reordered them into family groups instead of the alphabetical listing of the index (Source: Tyne&amp;amp;Wear record office)&lt;br&gt;Children of:&lt;br&gt;Edward &amp;amp; Ann Bagnall&lt;br&gt;Hannah       16 May 1813 R&lt;br&gt;Ann *         5 Jan 1817 R&lt;br&gt;Hannah        3 May 1820 R&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Richard &amp;amp; Isabella Bagnall&lt;br&gt;Eleanor }     4 Sep 1814 R&lt;br&gt;Hannah  }&lt;br&gt;Ann          11 May 1817 R&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ann Bagnall (single woman)&lt;br&gt;Jane          8 Mar 1818 R&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Joshua &amp;amp; Ann Bagnall&lt;br&gt;George*      28 Mar 1819 R       &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Isiah &amp;amp; Ann Bagnall&lt;br&gt;Ann           20 May 1820 W&lt;br&gt;Isabella Jane 10 May 1828 R&lt;br&gt;Isiah         17 May 1835 W&lt;br&gt;Richard Reed*  9 Jan 1839 W   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Joshua &amp;amp; Sarah Bagnall&lt;br&gt;Isabella      20 May 1821 R&lt;br&gt;William       21 Sep 1823 R&lt;br&gt;Sarah          1 Jan 1826 R&lt;br&gt;Sarah  }      20 May 1827 R&lt;br&gt;Barbara}&lt;br&gt;Richard       25 May 1828 R&lt;br&gt;Ellen         14 Nov 1830 W&lt;br&gt;Eliz.Isabella 11 Apr 1833 W&lt;br&gt;Joshua         2 Sep 1834 W&lt;br&gt;Isabella      25 Aug 1835 W  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John &amp;amp; Elizabeth Bagnall&lt;br&gt;Richard        6 Jun 1827 R&lt;br&gt;Richard       17 May 1829 W&lt;br&gt;William        2 Nov 1835 W&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Richard Siddoway &amp;amp; Dorothy Bagnall&lt;br&gt;Henry Angus      }  24 Mar 1839 W&lt;br&gt;Isabella         }&lt;br&gt;John             }&lt;br&gt;Richard Siddoway }&lt;br&gt;Sarah            }&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bryan &amp;amp; Ann Bagnall&lt;br&gt;Richard        27 Mar 1839 R  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(* surname spelt Bagnell)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By the way, I'm descended from Edward and Ann.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fred&lt;br&gt;Newcastle upon Tyne&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; P.S. I'll post the burials if you want them.   </description>
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      <title>Re: Richard William Bagnall m. Margaret Lyons?</title>
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      <description>By 1841 Richard William was an orphan, hence the reason for him living with his uncle.&lt;br&gt; His father Joshua died in 1838 (buried Ryton 9 Feb , age 39) and his mother Sarah( nee Stones) the following year (buried Ryton 1 Nov ,aged 39).&lt;br&gt;Richard William had 10 brothers and sisters who were baptised at either Ryton or the chapel of ease at Winlaton. Unfortunately most of them appear to have died in infancy. In 1841 he apppears to have two surviving sisters. Barbara (bap.20 May 1827)who was living in the household of Thomas Laidler (joiner)at Blenheim St,Newcastle upon Tyne and was described as a house servant. Isabella (bap 25 Aug 1835)who was living with her aunt Eleanor(nee Bagnall) and her husband Anthony Wailes (Waterman) at Bull Ring,Tynemouth.I believe Barbara susequently married Gilbert Wheatley (ships master) at All Saints,Newcastle in 1847 and Isabella married Thomas Lynn (coalminer) also at All Saints in 1853.I think Thomas may have been the brother of Margaret,Richard William's wife.&lt;br&gt;There may have been another surviving sister Sarah (bap 20 May 1827, possibly Barbara's twin).I have been unable to find any record of her burial or marriage or any census entry.&lt;br&gt;(Information from Ryton parish index 1813-39 baps and burials, 1841-51-61 census and Newcastle upon Tyne marriage registry)&lt;br&gt;NB 31 Bagnall baps and 18 burials at Ryton 1813-39</description>
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      <description>Hello there Fred,&lt;br&gt;I have read your correspondence with Ann Marie with great interest as I too am researching my ancestors, the Bagnalls of Tyneside. My gg grandmother was one Isabella Bagnall born @ 1812/1815, parents Joshua &amp;amp; Ann Bagnall. To date however I have not found a record of her birth (checked all the parish records I can think of) which she always gave as Winlaton in subsequent census.There are details of other children to a Joshua &amp;amp; Ann (nee Redhead) Bagnell that I have located, but never Isabella. So I am still not sure if my Isabella is the daughter of the above mentioned couple. I was therefor wondering if you had come across any facts/clues that might help in your research. I am still not sure either of who and where Joshua Bagnall fitted into it all. On the 1851 census for Lime St. Byker which is probably him with wife Ann, also listed is brother Edward?? I have looked at the Bagnalls of the Ryton area quite some way back (mainly thru the IGI)and because of the numerous lines have a very muddled chart of them all. So I would be also interested to learn if you have managed to get a clear picture of their lines and relationships?&lt;br&gt;Also I have received a couple of family trees from people over the internet that conflict.Mainly in connection with  the Richard &amp;amp; Edward that married Isabel &amp;amp; Ann Siddoway, so again if you are an ancestor I am hoping you can help. Living in NZ limits my research so I would be grateful for any assistance.&lt;br&gt;Many Thanks,&lt;br&gt;Jenny B.</description>
      <pubDate>2007-10-12 01:02:34Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Hi there Ann Marie,&lt;br&gt;Rather late in the day but have just got around to looking at the message boards again. Yes that Joshua is the son of of the couple I had mentioned and I think establishes your line back to him quite nicley.The Siddoway Tree is outlined on the LDS website, however the exact line back of Richard Bagnell is a bit muddied, as there appear to be more that one Richard Bagnall born around the same time. Eventually however all these Bagnalls seem to be related and probably originated from a Joseph Bagnall whose name first appears in the Ryton Parish records with the birth of a daughter Elizabeth 1702. It is supposed that this Joseph possibly came from Staffs to work in the Crowley Iron Works. ( info about this on internet.) I have a complicated tree of it all which I am still sorting out.Your Richard and my Joshua were closely related  somehow, step brothers?cousins..not sure yet.Keep in touch if you make any progress.&lt;br&gt;Jenny B.&lt;br&gt;buffo@xtra.n.z</description>
      <pubDate>2007-12-22 01:04:45Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Hi there again Anne Marie,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Further to your request for info on Richard William Bagnall &amp;amp; Margaret Lyons I have been looking at the notes on my Bagnall research and can enlighten you a little further as to who those Bagnalls are in the 1841 census you mention.&lt;br&gt;Firstly Richard Bagnall(45, born 1795 in fact)will be the son of the Richard Bagnall(1776) and wife Isabel Sidoway.In this census he is with his wife Dorothy Angus who he married in Ryton/ Winlaton 1821. Richard Sidoway Bagnal &amp;amp; Dorothy according to my research had at least 7 children. Richard S. 1821;John 1822-1824; Henry Angus 1826; Sarah 1827; John S. 1828; Isabella 1829; Isaac 1841. The presence of the 2 Richards aged 13yrs &amp;amp; 6 is still a puzzle to me I am afraid.However..........&lt;br&gt;Secondly according to my notes there is a Richard William Bagnall born 1828, parents Joshua &amp;amp; Sarah (nee Stones)who had a wife called Margaret. Joshua (1799) in this case is another of the children of Richard and Isabella (Siddoway) Bagnall.( I have 9 recorded children to them). So possibly the Richard aged 13 was a cousin staying with them and is the ancestor you are looking for. Another look at various census may help to clarify.&lt;br&gt;Finally have you seen the Free BMD listing for Richard William Bagnall's marrriage? Recorded for March Qtr 1848 as being to a Margaret LYNN, not Lyons.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do you have any info on the siblings of your Joshua 1850 as it may help to track down further trees I am looking at.I'd appreciate it if you could send me details if you do.Thanks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hope some of this helps?&lt;br&gt;Regards.&lt;br&gt;Jenny B.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2007-09-04 04:48:35Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Richard William Bagnall m. Margaret Lyons?</title>
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      <description>Hello Fred,&lt;br&gt;Thanks indeed for that, greatly appreciated. Whilst I have checked the Parish records for Isabella in Ryton/Gateshead &amp;amp; St Johns, Newcastle, I never got round to looking at All Saints!So an answer may lie there. Her probable mother Ann Redhead is someone I have also been chasing with no luck. She and Joshua were married in 1795 at St Marys,Carlisle ( a place where several Bagnalls are also to be found) and she was a minor. In subsequent census that I have found her on she gives her birth place as Winlaton( 1851) and the in 1861 as Haswell, Co Durham.And in the Ryton P/R for the births of some of her children it states she is from the parish of Tanfield.&lt;br&gt;Re Edward / Richard &amp;amp; Joshua's relationships you may be interested  in the info I was sent thru another contact. &lt;br&gt;In this it's claimed that a certain Joseph Bagnall 1730&lt;br&gt;married twice, first time in 1749 to a Margaret? and had 8 children by her, one of whom was Joshua 1753 who subsequently married Ann Brewis 1771 in Gateshead and whose eldest son was Joshua 1774 who married Ann Redhead.From another of the other 8 siblings, namely Ralph 1751 who maried Sarah Nixon 1772 (Ryton)there was a son Edward 1772 who maried (Sarah) Ann Siddoway. This makes Joshua &amp;amp; Edward cousins tho. Then from the second marriage of Joseph 1730 to a Margery Ellison there were another 6 children!One of whom was Richard 1776 who married Isabel Siddoway. I had several queries to the author about the authenticity of this (for one couldn't locate the second marriage between these two at all) but never ever heard back. However I send it to you for what its worth and apologise if its muddled! There was obviously 2 Richard Bagnalls born 1776 and that in itself has been a puzzle.&lt;br&gt;I shall keep searching and will let you know if I ever turn up anything. &lt;br&gt;Finally I would be very intrested to see your family tree from Edward &amp;amp; Ann down and share mine wiith you if you are &lt;br&gt;interested. My Isabella Bagnall married a William Ryle, Newcastle 1839 and our family line after living in Gateshead until the early 1900s moved to Whitley Bay, where I was born and raised.&lt;br&gt;Cheers for now.&lt;br&gt;Jenny B.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="mailto://buffo@xtra.co.nz"&gt;buffo@xtra.co.nz&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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      <description>I am Brian Bagnall...Joseph P. Bagnall Jr.'s son...Joseph P. Bagnall's (Died 1980) grandson...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I will help with whatever info I have...</description>
      <pubDate>2007-07-23 03:37:42Z</pubDate>
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      <description>All things Bagnall are at:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bagnallvillage.com/SurnameIndex.htm" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.bagnallvillage.com/SurnameIndex.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;including genealogy forums</description>
      <pubDate>2007-09-03 11:29:18Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Have you tried the Genealogy Forums bit at &lt;a href="http://www.bagnallvillage.com" target="_blank"&gt;www.bagnallvillage.com&lt;/a&gt; ?</description>
      <pubDate>2008-02-13 09:06:29Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: George Joseph Hilton Bagnall</title>
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      <description>Are you still working on Bagnall genealogy?  I would like to compare notes about the Birmingham Bagnalls.&lt;br&gt;Thanks,&lt;br&gt;Liz&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="mailto://liz@semlab.com"&gt;liz@semlab.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2008-05-30 19:58:44Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Looking for information on Otto Rydero Bagnall&lt;br&gt;Looking for information on Rhoda V. Bagnall (McAskill)</description>
      <pubDate>2007-09-07 13:47:33Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Maria Jane Bagnall Born 1871</title>
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      <description>I am looking for information on a mary jane bagnall born 1871 married Frederick g goddard in 1891 mayby at waterloo or warren. I can be contacted thru email at&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="mailto://carolrose53@bigpond.com"&gt;carolrose53@bigpond.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;carol</description>
      <pubDate>2007-12-14 01:11:00Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Richard William Bagnall m. Margaret Lyons?</title>
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      <description>Yes, thank you, that information was very helpful.  The only information I have is that he had an older sister named Sarah, born 1848 or so.  She was listed as 3 years old in the 1851 Winlaton census.  I hope this helps!  Also, there is another reply to my thread that has some good information in it that will help you.  Thanks again!</description>
      <pubDate>2007-10-10 20:49:13Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Thank you for the replies!  I have a copy of the marriage register for Richard and Margaret, and couldn't quite make out her last name.  It looked like Lyons to me.  But now I can see two n's.  The information is soooo helpful.  I wish I had information to share with others when they needed it!  But so far I'm the one needing help.  Thanks again!  Ann-Marie  </description>
      <pubDate>2007-10-10 20:06:28Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Thanks for the reply.  I've not been on the boards much either, lately, but am trying to get back into research mode!  Let me know if you make any more progress, as I will do for you!&lt;br&gt;Ann-Marie</description>
      <pubDate>2008-02-13 02:41:19Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Jenny - I just found a record of Joshua Bagnall, born 10 Nov 1799, bap. 11 May 1800 in Ryton, to a Richard Bagnall and Isabella Siddoway on the lds website.  I think this may be one of my Joshua's, and am wondering if these are the Richard and Isabella Siddoway you mentioned before?</description>
      <pubDate>2007-10-15 06:38:17Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Yes, the burials would be greatly appreciated!  </description>
      <pubDate>2007-10-15 06:26:33Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Thank you so much, Jenny and Fred.  I'm still trying to muddle through and sort out this information.  I haven't been doing this very long, so a lot of the sites for searching either I'm not aware of, or just don't quite know how to go about seraching them.  All of this information is a wonderful way for me to start.  &lt;br&gt;A couple of questions:  What is the IGI?  &lt;br&gt;Where do I find the parrish records, and what do I need to do to verify that indeed these are relatives of mine?  I've been trying to track down possible links in other family trees with no luck.  I have ordered birth/marriage records in the past, but don't want to do it for every Bagnall out there without be relatively sure of a connection.  &lt;br&gt;Why is it that I can find names on one commonly used site, but on another large database, they won't be found?&lt;br&gt;Thank you so much for all your help.  It is a fantastic feeling to be finding these family connections.  Our family knows practically nothing about our family history, so it's great to fill in these blanks!  (Around 1930 the family moved to Oregon and that is where our information started.)&lt;br&gt;  </description>
      <pubDate>2007-10-15 06:09:58Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Hi!  I did order his birth record and found his parents names.  I also got a copy of his marriage record.  Thanks for the information!</description>
      <pubDate>2007-09-03 03:35:30Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Richard William Bagnall m. Margaret Lyons?</title>
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      <description>I am looking for any information on this family from Co. Durham, England.  I have them listed as parents for Joshua Bagnall (b. June 1850), m. Alice Heron 1873.  I'm not having any luck tracing them on a census.  The one thing I found that could be him is an 1841 census for Winlaton, Durham England.  Listed under Richard Bagnall, age 45 and Dorothy age 43, there are two other Richard's in the household, a 13 yr. old and a 6 yr. old.  I think the 13 yr. old could be him, but would like more info if anyone has it.&lt;br&gt;Thanks!</description>
      <pubDate>2007-09-03 03:34:23Z</pubDate>
      <author>annaree22</author>
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      <title>Re: William Bagnall b-c 1803 Sheffield Yorkshire</title>
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      <description>I have a William Bagnall born 30 Jan 1803, baptised 20 Feb 1803 at Sheffield Cathedral St Peter. His parents are Samuel Bagnall and Sarah Cousins. See Pat Bagnall's website &lt;a href="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bagnalls99/GEDmill%20Output/indiI786.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bagnalls99/GEDmill%...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Can you contact me off-list to swop info? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="mailto://barrykelly@blueyonder.co.uk"&gt;barrykelly@blueyonder.co.uk&lt;/a&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2007-09-07 18:02:13Z</pubDate>
      <author>blkelly</author>
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      <title>Re: Abraham Bagnall c.1801 Shropshire</title>
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      <description>Abraham Bagnall is my ggg grandfather. I can help with Elizabeth's parents etc., but do not, as yet, have any info on Abraham's parents.</description>
      <pubDate>2007-04-13 10:54:15Z</pubDate>
      <author>stuartbagnall</author>
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