I also have a relative, Joseph Donovan aged 12 years, who appears in the census of 1891 at the orphanage. His two sisters were in an orphanage in Hackney. Can you elaborate on 'they were treated horribly'? As the institution was run by Jesuit brothers I am not surprised to hear this but I would like to know what life was like and at what age boys moved on - and to where.