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Re: William Bailie

Chaelab12 — 2012-03-15 22:51:11Z

Thanks, this is so much information! I'm going to have to find out if any of this fits with my part of the family, now!

Nancy Bailie, Balie, or Bailey in KS, MO, IA, IL?

julianer — 2011-12-25 12:33:02Z

Looking for any information on a Nancy Bailie, who gave birth to a little girl in Sptember of 1961 in Kansas City. We were told that Nancy worked as a clerk in a law firm, and that the father of her child was a married attorney. I do not know if Nancy was her proper name, or a nickname. I also do not know her age. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Bailie

ckuglen — 2011-10-07 00:45:15Z

I am trying ot get information on a Matilda Bailie (or Baillie) who married a Craig. Late 1700's. Had a son, Stewart Craig. Probably living in Ireland.

Bailie Brothers

oneilll25 — 2011-09-06 11:27:08Z

Hi i'm trying to find out what happened to the following brothers that left Northern Ireland in 1926 and 1927.

Joseph David Burns Bailie born 1904 Longford, left in 1926 to Canada.
Hubert Eric Bailie born 1907 Longford, left in 1926 to New Zealand died in 1982 in New Zealand.
Ernest George Bailie born 1909 Longford, left in 1927 to New Zealand died in Hamilton 1985.

Do any of these names ring a bell to anyone. many thanks

Descendants of William Annesley Bailie 1740-1821

pb1500 — 2011-08-20 22:23:46Z

I am searching for the descendants of William Annesley Bailie, born in Innisharghie, Co Down, Ireland in 1740. He was the son of John Bailie (1697-1747) and Jane Forde (d 1781). He served in the East India Company and became a Colonel. He married Hon Elizabeth St Leger Aldworth in 1787 in Cork, Ireland. I believe they had 1 daughter and 3 sons - Elizabeth b 1782, George b 1792, Thomas Goddard b about 1785 and William b about 1790. They moved to Bath, Somerset, England where William died in 1821 and Elizabeth died in 1831. I would appreciate any information on their children. I believe Elizabeth married a John Nagle from Cork and William married Jane Georgina. I know Thomas married Mary Murphy.

Re: William Bailie

shakeracre — 2011-08-15 20:40:11Z

Your inquiry about William Bailie caught my eye. I, too, had a great-great grandfather named William Bailie(ca.1825-1901). He was from No. Ireland, came to the US in the 1830's and became a soldier in the Seminole Indian War. I have a copy of his memoirs of America recorded by a relative (last name Glover of Georgia) in 1900. William said after the war he went hunting for pelts and alligator teeth, but his boat capsized off the Atlantic coast, so he returned to Ireland in the late 1830's, got married, had a number of children, including my great grandfather, Robert Bailie (1854-1953). Robert had uncles (William's brothers) who came to settle in Lancaster, Wisconsin in the 1850-60's. They had sizable farms based on the platt records, and there are lots of Bailies with impressive tombstones buried (including Robert) just south of Lancaster. Some descendents still live in and about Lancaster. After he was born in Ireland, Robert went to join his uncles as a young man in Wisconsin. Robert married and had a number of children as well. One son was "Uncle Will," brother of my grandmother (Lizzie Bailie Heiliger, 1885-1956). Will went to Canada and apparently ended up living in Banff, Alberta. His family allegedly had a huge cattle ranch. I realize I'm not addressing your inquiry directly, but you need to know that the Bailie spelling is a variation of Baillie and Baillieul and Baliol. John Baliol was king of Scotland from 1292-1296, placed on the throne by Edward Longshanks (Edward I), to get the Scots in line. Baliol soon disagreed with Longshanks and was deposed, setting the stage for William Wallace (Braveheart) and Robert the Bruce to win Scottish independence. Baliol was a descendent of Guy de Baillieul who came to England with William the Conqueror in 1066. You can have fun tracing all the royals on your own. However, where the Bailie story gets muddled is in about 1600 when Elizabeth I sent Scots to No. Ireland to manage the Catholic problem. Some Bailies came to No. Ireland then while others remained in Scotland, some adding an extra "l" in the spelling, Lanarkshire is the hometown name that recurs with the Scottish Bailies. My Irish ancestors come from around Randalstown and Antrim near the Lough Neagh in County Antrim. There is a Bailieboro just south of the Lough Neagh in County Cavan, southwest of Armagh. There is also a Bailieboro in Ontario, Canada, maybe 60 miles north of Toronto, near Rice(?) Lake. Perhaps your ancestor went there first before coming to America. I hope you find your family, and perhaps we'll learn we are a part of your family after you connect all the dots. So good luck. Keep in touch. Rev. Dr. Robert Lee Heiliger, 1345 New England Way, Lebanon, OH. 45036

Re: Bailie Family C.Down Ireland.

johnmurdoch50 — 2011-07-08 13:55:15Z

The Jane Bailie b 1820 is my great great grandmother-my g grandparents were Lizzie Barr and James Kyle. I would be happy to share information.

Re: Bailie family from Northern Ireland

Chaelab12 — 2011-07-03 17:20:33Z

Do you have more information on William and his descendents, if any, to about 1915?

Re: Samuel Bailie

Chaelab12 — 2011-07-03 17:04:04Z

Do you have any more information about William? (Who he married, kids, etc.)

Re: William Bailie, born 1750 Kilcoo, Down Co. Ireland

Chaelab12 — 2011-07-03 17:02:04Z

Do you know if any of the ones who married had a son named William and if so their descendents?

Re: Bailie Family

Chaelab12 — 2011-06-15 22:56:25Z

Thanks, I'm not sure if he fits in right now, with the people I have listed. I'll get back to you about this, though!

Bailie

oneilll25 — 2011-06-15 17:49:32Z

I'm trying to find out about a Joseph David Burns Bailie born in Longford Ireland 1904. He left Belfast in 1926 to go to Canada. His mother is Pheobe (Burns) father is John Bailie.

Re: Bailie Family

oneilll25 — 2011-06-15 17:43:59Z

hi there i have a bailie in my family father joseph bailie married a P. burns and had 4 children. i do know that 1 of the sons left ireland in 1926 and went to canada. hope this helps

Re: The BAILIE Family

Chaelab12 — 2011-06-06 20:33:15Z

In your family tree do you have an Alexander Bailie (b. 1899, d. 1968), son of William and Ann (Harrigain) Bailie?

Re: William Bailie

Chaelab12 — 2011-05-25 01:48:21Z

EDIT:
I recently found out that Alexander Bailie, who jumped ship in Brooklyn, had to go through Canada to get documents. (Possibly to get his papers in order to become an American citizen)

Re: bailie early history in ireland

Chaelab12 — 2011-05-15 16:12:32Z

Hi, I'm looking into my g-g-grandfather William Bailie who had a son named Robert. From what I know, Robert and his younger brother Willie died during World War 1. Do you have any more information about them?

Re: Need HELP with BAILIE line

GordonPertJohnson — 2011-04-26 19:47:53Z

The idea of mis-spelling is a modern one. In past centuries spelling was up to the writer, based on pronunciation, so any spelling which sounded right when spoken, was acceptable. It was the advent of dictionaries that brought about the concept of "correct" spelling.
Guy Fawkes was just another spelling of Fox, for example. Have a look at Black's "Surnames of Scotland" for his many examples of variant spellings throughout history for each surname.
For Baillie, Bailie, Bailey, he says; "it is most certainly derived from O.F. Bailli, the bailie or bailiff. The earliest record of the name in Scotland is in 1311.12, when one William de Bailli appears as a juror". He gives over a dozen spellings for the surname.
Today I was indexing Wick Burgh minutes of the early 1800s, and the spelling used by the then clerk for the title was "bailie", whereas his predecessor used "baillie".
Best wishes,
Gordon.

Re: Need HELP with BAILIE line

DanielHBailey — 2011-04-26 18:59:21Z

The only point I was trying to make is that Bailie is a title, whereas, Baillie is a surname. Any use of Bailie as a surname is likely to be a mis-spelling.

Re: Need HELP with BAILIE line

GordonPertJohnson — 2011-04-26 12:16:42Z

The surname comes from the Scots term Bailie/Baillie/Bailzie (where the letter z was actually a "yogh", which is now extinct as a letter).All three spellings are found in Burgh records.
The term denoted either an official on an estate, or a burgh magistrate, second only to the provost in rank.
Gordon.

Re: Need HELP with BAILIE line

DanielHBailey — 2011-04-25 15:08:09Z

I do not know if this will help, but Bailie is the title of a city official, while Baillie is probably the Gaelicized version of Bailey.

The Baillie line(s) in Scotland are not very numerous, and there is some controversy about the origin of the name. Some historians claim the name is derived from the discredited Balliol line (puppet kings of scotland under Edward I). However, I believe the name is simply the Gaelic version of the Bailey name, and that they came to Scotland from Ireland during the Bruce's war to restore independence from England.

Re: Bailie Family

Chaelab12 — 2011-04-11 13:30:37Z

Do you know if John had any siblings? 'Cause I've got a John Bailie in my family that I believe came from Ireland.

Re: BAILIE in India 1850s>1900s

warlandcanuck — 2011-03-27 17:36:49Z

Hi Justin
Just wondering if you'd found any more on your Crawshaw's and Baillie's? Gawaine, posted below, might know more as he is my 2nd cousin and a direct descendent from this line.

Re: BAILIE in India 1850s>1900s

warlandcanuck — 2011-03-27 17:33:21Z

Hi Gawaine
Sorry just saw these comments now. I think we have this all figured out now? You and your sisters & cousins are all listed on Florence's family tree.

Cheers from Canada
jill

Bailie Family

SScherling60 — 2011-03-26 22:36:31Z

We are looking for information about John Bailie, born in 1853 in Ireland. He and Elsie Mellen had two sons, Edward Parkinson Bailie and Harry Mellen Bailie. They all lived in the New York area. Edward Parkinson Bailie was born in Greenburgh, New York on Feb. 24, 1881 and Harry Mellen Bailie was born on Sept. 13, 1883 in Albany, New York. Edward had three daughters: Dorothy, Elsie, and Olive. Harry had one daughter, my deceased mother-in-law, Elizabeth Jeanne Bailie, who was born in Detroit, Michigan.
Any information about any of these Bailies would be appreciated!

Thomas Bailie born Hillsborough

ShirleyCassells — 2011-03-26 18:33:05Z

I am looking for information on my Uncle Thomas Bailie (through marriage to my aunt Isabella Cassells). He was born in Hillsborough around 1887, the son of Thomas Bailie and Sarah Ann ?, both born in Ireland. He had two other brothers who were born in Scotland, Robert and John. The family were in Scotland only a short time, presumably for work. My Aunt Isabella and Thomas Bailie married in Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada (they came separately, she in 1911 to marry). My problem is that I can't find any death information on him or her or any children.
If anyone has information on this line I would really appreciate it.

William Bailie

Chaelab12 — 2011-03-01 03:33:31Z

William Bailie was my Great-Great-Grandfather. He was married to Ann Harrigain, who died in childbirth, and had 7 kids: Annie Bailie, Florence Bailie(? – abt. 1900), Jane Bailie, John Bailie, Robert Bailie, Willie Bailie, Alexander Bailie (1899 – 1968).

They lived in the United Kingdom though I'm not sure which part. I think it was Northern Ireland.

Alexander was my Great-Grandfather. He came over to the United States as part of the British Merchant Marines, he jumped ship in Brooklyn and that's how my part of the family got to the U.S.
I know that Willie and Robert drowned during World War I, as part of the Navy. (UK or US, not sure)
Jane was sent to the Little Sisters of the Poor.
After Ann Harrigain died her sister stepped in and took Willie, Florence(? Might have been old enough to live by herself), Robert, and Alexander. William raised Annie, John, and Jane.

I was wondering if anyone had any information they could give me about this part of the family.
Thanks

Re: The BAILIE Family

anitarothermel — 2011-01-27 20:59:37Z

My Bailie family were mainly from County Antrim in N. Ireland.
The furthest I go back is c1810 Alexander Bailie
I know that a number of my fathers family emigrated to USA & Canada in late 1800's early 1900's.
The other thing I know is that my fathers family were very musical
If you think there could be any connection it would be great to hear from you.

Re: Robert Bailie

judygirl6 — 2011-01-25 17:26:47Z

Robert Bailie, who was born in 1799, was my ggg grandfather. My great grandfather was Samuel R. Bailie [son of Gilbert & Catharine (Hollis) Bailie] who died in Monroe, Wisconsin.

Re: Robert Bailie

mitybyte — 2011-01-17 05:28:18Z

John,

I am a direct descendant of Andrews' older brother James. James is my great grandfather. Andrew and his brother Gilbert made names for themselves due to their Civil War exploits and their careers. Unfortunately, the war took two of their brothers, John and Nathaniel. Would you like to exchange notes? Rick Bailie

Re: bailie early history in ireland

finmacool — 2010-08-29 21:46:36Z

hi ruth,nice to hear from you to.i will be glad to tell elizabeth ive been in touch with you. shes the sourch of all info concerning our side.i really only got involved on this site by tryin to give some help to someones queery. any information i have is entirely due to the hard work put in by your father.i live in bangor and should you be nesr i would love to meet. my email is finmacool@yahoo.com and my phone no is 91274928 or 07710297565 best wishes finlay

Re: bailie early history in ireland

ruthmcfarland24 — 2010-08-29 09:54:23Z

Hello Finlay,
Great to hear from you. I hope to go and see Elizabeth over the next couple of months to show her the information I have found on the McKeowns, our great-grandmothers family.
I will be staying with Joyce next weekend, I'll tell her that I have heard from you.
It would be great if we could meet up at some stage, I have several large files on the Bailies, Elizabeth has my address and phone number.
Best wishes,
Ruth

Re: bailie early history in ireland

finmacool — 2010-08-28 22:17:54Z

hi ruth. thought your name familiar. you are a daughter of my late cousin cyril. im a son of william hugh. but nice to hear from you.i live in bangor and my sister is elizabeth mcaree who lives in newcastle co down and my other sister pat lives in sydney but you will probably know this if you have contact with your aunt joyce in omagh.best wishes finlay bailie

Re: bailie early history in ireland

ruthmcfarland24 — 2010-08-28 10:06:42Z

Hello,
I'm from the Coagh family too and my info. is also about the Belfast Bailies. I live in County Londonderry. Good to hear from you. Ruth

Re: bailie early history in ireland

finmacool — 2010-08-27 23:20:10Z

hi ruth im from the coagh family dating back to the early 1600,s. but any info i have is later centered on belfast close to which i now live. where are you from.

Re: bailie early history in ireland

ruthmcfarland24 — 2010-08-27 14:30:41Z

I have the same history as you, of the Bailie family and have a lot of other information too. Which branch of the family are you researching? I would be pleased to hear from you.

Re: Information on George Henry Bailie

RobertJohnson8734 — 2010-08-25 21:41:28Z

Thank you very much

Re: Information on George Henry Bailie

HamiltonBailie — 2010-08-25 17:21:21Z

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Kilmoo...

Re: Bailie Family C.Down Ireland.

lcarabello_1 — 2010-08-13 00:24:23Z

Hi,
I have been off ancestry for a while and now just reading your post. Thank you so much, I am pullingout my genealogy now to look at your names and date. Will get back to you.
Leslie

Re: bailie early history in ireland

finmacool — 2010-07-18 00:21:34Z

i have a record of a frank bailie marrying a jane cooper who had a son james marrying a rachel shannon and they had 4 children JAMES,MARY ELLEN,FRANK and HARRY who died young. The elder of the james moved Glasgow and then Lochwinnock where he died suddenly.his wife RACHEL returned to Belfast presumely with the children.The son james ended up in England as a pig farmer.Frank in London as a doctor and Mary Ellen in nursing. Trust this is of help

Re: bailie early history in ireland

bailiehm1 — 2010-07-17 17:13:35Z

my dad james hall bailie was born in belfast 1915. his mother died shortly after that and I have no knowlegde of his dad. James Bailie. have you been able to obtain any other information?

Re: Bailie Family C.Down Ireland.

johnmurdoch50 — 2010-07-11 08:38:34Z

See my post. My great great grandmother was Bethia Baillie's sister.

Re: Bailie Family C.Down Ireland.

johnmurdoch50 — 2010-07-11 08:36:28Z

Jane Baillie was my great great grandmother. She married Williamd Barr and her daughter, Lizzie, married James Kyle. They had a daughetr called Agnes who married John Campbell in Glasgow after the family emigrated there.

Max Bailie

acbailie — 2010-07-01 23:52:37Z

I am looking for my brother Maxwell Bailie. He was born in 1963 in Montreal. Quebec. He was living in Kirkland Lake Ontario about 10-11 yrs ago and may be in the Ottawa area now. Any info, good or bad will be greatly appreciated.

Re: bailie early history in ireland

lesmck57 — 2010-06-28 16:07:40Z

Greetings from Bailieborough. William Bailie a native of Ayrshire Scotland came to this area in 1610 and it became the Borough of Bailie later known as Bailieborough. I would be interested in hearing from anyone who can trace their Bailie roots back to William Bailie. Regards, Les. http://www.anglocelt.ie/news/roundup/articles/2010/06/02/399...

Re: bailie early history in ireland

finmacool — 2010-06-27 22:07:49Z

some further info on 3 bailies archie,robert&william who emigrated to amarica in 1826. archie died on route and was burried on anticosta.robert and william took up land in st charles quebec. in the next year 1827they maved to boston mass.and then on to woonsocket

Re: bailie early history in ireland

glenis4653 — 2010-03-29 07:12:22Z

have you got any connection to the Cochrane Family at all.
I beleive that the three brothers came from Scotland very quickly as they nearly murdered there Tutor who was a member of the church.They changed there name from Baillie to Bailie ?
My family member was married in Hillsborough C Down in 1835 to Mary Cochrane daughter of William Cochrane and Sarah Bradshaw.Migrated to the USA in 1844 and disappeared off the face of the earth,

Sampson bailie/Bailey

glenis4653 — 2010-03-29 06:56:49Z

Sampson Bailie [name changed to Bailey] arrived on board the Ship Eutaw in 1844 in the USA from Ireland.
His wife Mary Cochrane and 2 of there children Robert Sampson Bailey and his sister Sarah Ann Bailey arrived with him. No trace has been found of Sarah ?????
His brother was left behind in Ireland with his Maternal Grandparents, William Cochrane and Sarah Bradshaw'The Cochrane family travelled to Australia in the 1850s.
The third child was Thomas Cochrane Bailie brn 1843

Re: Bailie Family C.Down Ireland.

lcarabello_1 — 2010-03-08 00:11:10Z

Hi,
I am just digging into the Bailie name and see your post, have you had a chance to make a CD onthe family name?
So eager to hear from you!
Regards
Leslie Carabello (Bethia Bailie descendant b.1840 from Thomas and Mary ANn Montgomery)

Re: bailie early history in ireland

glenis4653 — 2009-12-29 02:06:33Z

I am researching my famiy. Sampson Bailie married Mary Cichrane in Hillsborough C Down Ireland in 1835.
Migrated to PA inapprox 1840s with 2 of there children Robert aged 6 and Sarah aged 4.My Gr Grandfather was left behing with the Maternal grandparents william and Sarah Cochrane, who took Thomas with them when they migrated to Australia.
We have found but with a lot of various spellings of the name.
Can you help.
Robert married twice, was a marble cutter.

Re: Innishargie House

WayneTwilaB — 2009-11-02 03:03:03Z

Hi Gerry,

The name that I have for someone who lived in Innishargie House in the mid 1930's is Thomas M’Bride. I got that from articles that appeared in the Newtownards Spectator in 1935. I have copies of the articles which are not entirely complete, but give some details about the house and the Bailie family. If you would send me your email address, I would send the three articles to you. I was at Innishargie House a few years back and got copies of the original articles, then sent them to a library in Northern Ireland and they filled in most of what I was missing. In case my email address does not get through to you it is webale@ksu.edu.

Wayne Bailie