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Bale Milling Odyssey

jhurdle1 — 2012-06-02 01:26:39Z

I have had a book digitalized which is available free to see at books.google.com
Just go to the site and put in my name Judy Hurdle or the name of the book "Bale Milling Odyssey" and it should come up. It is the history of three generations of millers that were named Bale in NJ, KY and IL. I ran out of printed copies but it is available free to anyone who wants to read it. Parts of it are pretty dry but there's some fun info also.

Re: Family of Richard Bale and Mary Phillips

ColleenLill76 — 2012-05-23 02:54:32Z

No, I haven't researched the Bale line at all as it is not directly connected to me. The Bales are connected to an indirect line of my McKellars and was previously trying to connect up a few dots. Appears that some of the Bales married McKellars more than once and then toss in a Russell or 2 into the mix and it all becomes quite confusing!

Colleen

Re: Family of Richard Bale and Mary Phillips

dougbale — 2012-05-22 13:53:10Z

Have you had any luck in tracking old George back farther than his arrival (presumably in Canada, although he could have come through the States) in 1852?
I've come across some references indicating that he and Richard might have been semi-itinerant farm labourers in the parishes around Bideford, but the identifications aren't certain, and I've been able to find no emigration or immigration records in which the birth dates agree with the gravestone data.

Re: Family of Richard Bale and Mary Phillips

ColleenLill76 — 2012-05-22 02:04:43Z

Hi Doug,

Thanks for providing the info re Trinity Anglican Cemetery. Oddly enough, I was at the cemetery years ago and didn't know about the Bale/Russell/McKellar at the time!

Colleen

Re: Family of Richard Bale and Mary Phillips

dougbale — 2012-05-21 15:47:01Z

I have no record of the daughter Agnes, but assuming she did exist it makes sense that she might have married a Malcolm McKellar, because George Bale married a Margaret McKellar on Aug. 4, 1875.

Re: Family of Richard Bale and Mary Phillips

dougbale — 2012-05-21 15:01:58Z

There is a graveyard attached to Trinity United Church just north of Hickson, Ontario, filled with Bale graves, including, as I interpret it, Richard's father, George (1790-1854), his uncle Richard (1798 - 1882) and those of numerous children, George (1852 - _____), Anne (1851 - 1851), Flora (1854 - 1932), James (1855 - 1931), Martin (1857 - 1933) and Blanche (1859 - 1944).

Flora's grave is in that of her husband, Thomas Swift Russell (1857 - 1933).

I can e-mail you a photo of the stone if you wish.

bale michigan, new york , and pennsylvannia

tdenman72 — 2012-02-28 21:57:25Z

Looking for info from nicholas nathanial bale decendants.

Re: Bale mills in NJ, KY, IL

mlaarons42 — 2012-02-09 17:26:43Z

@ luciano3586 -- I have some questions/information about your area -- Bales, mills, etc. -- too much for a message on this board. I'll send you a note on your Ancestry.com account (look in upper right corner for "Messages") Thanks!

Re: Bale mills in NJ, KY, IL

jhurdle1 — 2012-02-08 19:25:13Z

Correction. Site for "Bale Milling Odyssey" is
books.google.com--I typed in the wrong thing on the previous message. Put in my name, Judy Hurdle, or the name of the book and the book will come up. It incluces pictures of the three mill sites in IL, KY and NJ.

Re: Bale mills in NJ, KY, IL

jhurdle1 — 2012-02-08 19:21:45Z

Thanks for your message. How close are you to Lafayette? There was more than one Bale mill. Henry built one in Lafayette and his sons moved away from there and built another one in Baleville, NJ area. My book "Bale Milling Odyssey" is available at books@google.com without charge. Just type in my name, Judy Hurdle, or the name of the book. There are pictures a man took for me at the mill site in NJ the book. If you have a digital camera it would be fun to see the site of the millpond. Again, thanks.

Re: Bale mills in NJ, KY, IL

luciano3586 — 2012-02-08 18:11:21Z

If you go on google maps and type in 1 old stagecoach road you will see bales millpond up stream and we own one mile of the river includeing bales mill pond. There are many foundations on the property. we find coll stuff in the river. I never knew we owned this. Its amazing.

Re: Bale mills in NJ, KY, IL

mlaarons42 — 2012-02-08 04:40:56Z

Old Stagecoach Road in Hampton -- Baleville area?? Henry Bale had a grist mill & forge on the Paulinskill in Lafayette, from about 1750. His sons Peter & Henry Jr. moved downstream, ran a mill there, and Baleville grew up around it. I'd love to hear more about your house. I'll continue this in an Ancestry Message note.

Re: Bale mills in NJ, KY, IL

luciano3586 — 2012-02-08 01:18:33Z

I have no idea if im confused or not.. You mention Bale Mills. The Paulinskill River...I own a house that was baught from a member of the "jones" family on the same river. The house had a mill next to it across the river right down from bale mills pond. Again i may be mistaken. The house is on old stage coach road in hampton if you were wondering.

Re: Bales of Northern NSW Australia.

jennymirving — 2012-02-05 08:08:02Z

That would be wonderful,
My email address is jennymirving@yahoo.com.au

Thanks
Jenny

Re: Bales of Northern NSW Australia.

CATLONGMUIR — 2012-02-05 07:05:04Z

Hi Jenny,
I am researching the Stokes side of the history I am the Granddaughter of John Harold James who was married to Evangaline....MY dad was Allan the youngest of the family who is now deceased....I might have some info on their lives but not the Bales themselves, I will check through my notes and see what I have that I can supply you...Thanks Cathy

Re: We're distant Cousins

1peterleinen — 2011-11-16 01:50:43Z

I'm related to the Bale family in Kentucky. Trying to find info on Orion Bale of Green Co. Kentuck. I have one Orion born Sep 3, 1895 in Kentucky and died Sept 5, 1913. Then their an other Orion A. Bale born Jun 12, 1895 died Sept 16, 1913 are they the same person? with differnt dates. Did Orion ever have a wife and kids?

Re: Bale family history

ThomasBale — 2011-10-08 08:56:09Z

I know that this is an old thread but I am also attempting to trace my BALE family.
My Father is called Steve Bale his Father is named Stuart Bale (2 sons) and his father is called Clifford Bale.
This is about all I know of the Bale family but if you think you are linked or know any more please let me know.

I dont seem to be finding anyone on here, aparently there are more BALE's out there than I thought.

I am based in Somerset and from what I understand so were much of my family.

Re: Johann Behl/Henry Bale

AprilBale — 2011-10-02 13:51:50Z

Here is my line: Johann Henry Bale, Jacob, Jacob, Samuel, Jesse Robert, Glenn Robert, James Robert, Me April Bale

Re: Johann Behl/Henry Bale

AprilBale — 2011-10-02 13:51:48Z

Here is my line: Johann Henry Bale, Jacob, Jacob, Samuel, Jesse Robert, Glenn Robert, James Robert, Me April Bale

Re: Bales in Kansas

AprilC13 — 2011-08-21 19:45:44Z

Here is what I have on Samuel Bale he was born 11 Dec 1832 in Menard, Illinois he died 30 Sep 1899 in ElDorado, Kansas he was married on 31 Dec 1870 to Lucinda Layton. He was married at one time to a Mary Jane Richardson,don't know nothing about her. He had 8 children Jesse Robert Bale born 2 Nov 1871 in Kansas, my Great Grandfather he married Ada may coe, Henrietta born 13 Jan 1873, Minnie Bell born 12 Aug 1874, Hardin William born 21 Mar 1876, Denver Vallace born 1 Jan 1878 in Kansas, Alvin Lester born 26 Feb 1880, Anna born 25 Aug 1883 and then Alice Catherine born 15 Jun 1885 in Hutchinson Kansas. His father was Jacob Bale and his mother was Elizabeth Davis. This is all I have on him hope it helps you out a little. Do you have anything on him? Thank you if you do and thank you if you don't. April

Re: Bales in Kansas

AprilC13 — 2011-08-21 19:45:40Z

Re: Bales in Kansas

AprilC13 — 2011-08-20 14:26:22Z

Can you and will you tell me what you know about Samuel Bale please thank you April

Re: Bale in KS

AprilC13 — 2011-08-20 12:33:06Z

Do you have any info on Samuel Andrew Jackson Bale? I believe he was my great-great Grandfather and I would like what info I can get on him. Thank you April

Bale, Jordan, Joyce and Cutts

jillbale113 — 2011-07-20 09:50:47Z

Any relations please email me on: jill.bale113@btinternet.com.

As not everyone does not want to talk on the phone these days!! Which I can understand.

Regards Mark Bale

Re: Bales of Culmstock, Devon England & Niagara USA

richard24wp — 2011-07-04 21:03:14Z

Hi again Mark,

I do not want to be awkward or try to suggest I have all the answers and truth, but I will try and see if we can clarrify/correct a few points, and hopefully help you to head in a different and hopefully correct direction.

I am afraid I think you and your wife may still be confused, and so I will aim to help where I can, but I think that you have problems with ages/dates of Bales you talk of, and thus the true "Time-Line".

I am also in touch with Gazydazy, and have confirmed her links with the Bales that I have links with. The Frederick Henry Bale who is Gazydazy's great grandfather was born in 1882 in Culmstock, Devon, so in no way can he be (as you claim) the father of your Grandfather's sister Selina if she was born in 1881!!!. So that link in the chain is Broken.

I believe you think that your Great Grandmother was Lavinia Marriott. If that is true, then I have a problem with your statement that Frederick Henry Junior was made head of the family prior to the 1911 UK Census, as the Frederick and Lavinia in Woolwich in 1911 are 55 and 50 respectively, which ties up with them being 10 years older than their ages given in the 1901 census, and I still can not see any sign of a Frederick Henry Bale age about 12 in the London area in 1911.

As far as I can see from records that I searched when checking links to my related Bales, The Frederick that married Lavinia Marriott was Born in Culmstock about 1856 and was married to her at East Stonehouse in 1880. He was a Mariner, and they lived around East Stonehouse (A naval area of Plymouth, Devon) for at least 17 years together. They then appeared to move to London in about 1897 to the Woolwich area and it looks like he worked at the Woolwich Arsenal. There was a son Frederick Henry Bale born to them in about 1899, but as previously stated I could not find this son (nor his sister Eveline) in the Woolwich area in the 1911 Census, so had assumed they had died as juveniles.

Based on age/dates, and the Culmstock birth, I believe Lavinia Marriott's husband Frederick is the son of Henry & Ann (Nee Moon) Bale.

Do you have original documentation (not recent copies of certificates) that prove a link with Lavinia Marriott? Do you have any of your Grandfather's original documentation,e,g. his original birth or marriage certificates would obviously be a help?

If you still wish to discuss other possible ties with earlier Bales please do reply.

Regards

Richard

Re: Bales of Culmstock, Devon England & Niagara USA

jillbale113 — 2011-07-04 18:46:40Z

Hello Richard,

My wife and I get comfused and there are 3 Fredrick Henry's. 1. Fredrick Henry born 1855. married Lavinia( my grandmother in 1895.) Their son Fredrick Henry 1899 was born.

Fredrick senior moved to usa and was nationalised in 1905 with his new wife Florence G Higgins. Fredrick Henry jr was made the head og=f the family in the 1911 census as he was the only male in the house. This is found in the 1920 census usa.

Fredrick Henry jr met Beatrice Cutts and my father- Fredrick Henry was born in 1924.

If this a little confusing ...join the club!! We have made contact with the family and it is getting ever larger!!!

Regards

Mark

Re: Bales of Culmstock, Devon England & Niagara USA

richard24wp — 2011-07-04 14:58:20Z

Mark,

If that is the case, what was your grandfather doing in 1911, because as far as I have been able to make out both he and Evelyne do not appear at home with some of the other family members in the 1911 UK census yet he would only have been about 12 at the time?

P.S. I think the Half brothers and sisters bit is a red herring as their father Frederick Henry Bale emigrated to the USA in 1906, and so would not have been in the UK Census along with your grandmother Lavinia in 1911!!!!.

Regards

Richard

Re: Bales of Culmstock, Devon England & Niagara USA

jillbale113 — 2011-07-04 08:59:11Z

my father had three siblings,albert,elaine & beatrice & sydney who died in infancy.their father was fredrick h born in 1899,he had seven siblings,eveline m,elsie maud,edith annie,lilian mary,selina matilda & half siblings marjorie b,fredrick h,dorothy marie,edith may;violet marie & a male living bale.i hope this helps you .

regards
mark

Re: Bales of Culmstock, Devon England & Niagara USA

richard24wp — 2011-07-03 19:35:44Z

Previously you said Marks father was Frederick Henry Bale. Can you let me know what (if any) Mark's Bale Uncles and Aunts were called?

Re: Bale born in Culmstock Devon....and Middlesex

dloca51 — 2011-06-29 05:52:28Z

Hi :-)))0
I have a James BALE (Bach. of this Parish) marrying a Mary GILLARD (Spinster, of Culmstock, Devon) in 7 Oct 1819 in Wellington, Somerset.
I know there were BALE's in Culmstock, having looked at the Microfilm at local LDS Fam. History Room of the Bishops Transcripts for the Parish of Culmstock. But, I didn't see an entry for a James BALE in 1786........
IS it possible that your J BALE is my James BALE ????????
You can contact me at ccrawfordau@yahoo.com.au
James BALE was one of my 2 x Great Grandfathers :-)
Looking forward to hearing from you on what you think?????
All the best,
Christine
PS
I have heard that there was/is a cottage that was called Bale's Cottage? Can't remember now if it was in Middlesex, Wales or else where?
If you have a 1881 or was it 1891 British Census entry with a Charles Albert HALE visiting a BALE family, this will link into my family......
Fingers crossed,
Christine

Re: Bales of Culmstock, Devon England & Niagara USA

jillbale113 — 2011-06-28 20:08:26Z

We are in Norfolk.. but the family comes from Hillingdon Middlesex. Please contact me on 0785647151 so we can chat if we have the same family. regards

S Joyce born 1816

jillbale113 — 2011-06-27 13:02:01Z

I am looking for infomation on the joyce family from Middlesex.

Jordan in Harefield

jillbale113 — 2011-06-27 12:51:23Z

I am looking for relatives of R F Jordan from Middlesex in around 1840's. Find it hard to find any parents

Bale born in Culmstock Devon....and Middlesex

jillbale113 — 2011-06-27 12:46:46Z

I am looking for J Bale born abt 1786 in culmstock, devon.
If anyone can help ..pls reply

Re: We're distant Cousins

buxatino — 2011-06-12 20:54:04Z

my error..it wasn't HENRY BALE it was PETER BALE (1768-1813 married to Eliz Struble (1770-1849)

Re: We're distant Cousins

buxatino — 2011-06-12 18:39:57Z

I am related through Johann Heinrich Bale (1730-1783) other son HENRY BALE (1778-1827) in Newton New Jersey. I have Peter Jakob Bale (BELHE) (1705- ) as Johanns father but cant find a mother. They were born in Bavaria Germany. Any help, dates etc would be greatly appreciated. My e mail address is...buxatino@aol.com

Re: Seeking Bale husband of native American Mary Bales

ruthk68 — 2011-05-23 22:10:12Z

Hi, I am also seeking information on Native American Heritage. My grandmother, Maranda Marcum Bale was Native American according to my father and uncle. She married William J. Bale when she was 16 and he was 19. My father was George Bale. Maranda's parents were Green Berry Marcum and Rebecca Trent who died a few weeks after Maranda was born. The names are different except for the last name is similar. Please let me know if anything matches up with your research. Green Berry Marcum did have a daughter named Mary born around 1878. Could there be a connection? Any information would be appreciated.

Re: Native American Maranda Marcum Bale

ruthk68 — 2011-05-18 14:55:22Z

My Grandfater was William J. Bale and he was married to Maranda J. Marcum which I've been told was Native American. I am also trying to verify this and any information you have would be helpful.

Re: Seeking Bale husband of native American Mary Bales

ruthk68 — 2011-05-18 14:54:20Z

My Grandfater was William J. Bale and he was married to Maranda J. Marcum which I've been told was Native American. I am also trying to verify this and any information you have would be helpful.

Re: Seeking Bale husband of native American Mary Bales

ruthk68 — 2011-05-18 14:49:19Z

Hi there,

I am also trying to identify that my Grandmother was native American. Her name was Maranda Marcum Bale and she was married to William Bale. My father was George W. Bale. The names don't match but the information does as I was told she was 100% Native American. You can check out the Kochoff Family tree for more family members and see if any information fits.

Bales of Northern NSW Australia.

jennymirving — 2011-03-19 06:01:22Z

Hello, I am looking for any information about my grandfather Lawrence bale born 1891 and his family. His father was Thomas Bale and his mother was Martha Heaver. We have very little information about the family and no information about Marths. The family originated in Devon.
Thank you
Jenny

We're distant Cousins

2011-02-10 20:51:36Z

I am a descendent of Henry Bale, Jacob Bale, Peter Bale, Henry Bale, William Emmett Bale, William Henry Bale, William Theodore Bale, Howard Bale. Howard was my father. We did tons of research together and I have it at my house. If you are interested in what I have please let me know. I'm just starting to get back into this, it's been years since I last looked at it (pre-internet!). My e-mail is jgreener_99@yahoo.com

Jeannine

Re: Bale in KY

lindacrews175 — 2011-02-10 02:03:45Z

william J bale and harriet welden were lou's parents. her father was indeed a ky senator.

Hobart/Bale/Smith

Debburkeis — 2010-12-30 07:13:14Z

Does anyone know anything About Florence CC Smith. The mother of Edith m j Hobart(1993)

Searle/Bracey

Debburkeis — 2010-12-30 07:10:47Z

Does anyone know who were the parents of horace porter Searle or Llma A Bracey are. They were married in 1917, and spent time in the hunter Region in Nsw.

Charles Krug married Carolina Bale 150 years ago Dec 26

sthelenahistory — 2010-11-17 04:18:38Z

There will be an event commemorating their wedding 150 years ago. If you are their descendant, please reply.

Re: Bales of Culmstock, Devon England & Niagara USA

richard24wp — 2010-09-04 21:46:32Z

Hi Jill (assumption based on Acestry.com name),

The Frederick Henry in my Niece's Tree had a Father Herbert, Grandfather Henry and Great Grandfather John, he did have a 1st cousin once removed who was called Frederick, whose Father was a Frederick and thus his Grandfather was the John above (their common ancestor). If this was the same family as your husband's however the younger Frederick had sons Cecil Courtney Bale and Clement S. J. Bale, who would have to be Mark's Brothers or similar.

I am in Devon, England, where are you?

Living in hope that there are some Bale relations in USA or Canada out there somewhere!

Regards

Richard

Re: Bales of Culmstock, Devon England & Niagara USA

jillbale113 — 2010-09-04 21:20:47Z

Hello, I am interested in your family tree as we may be related. My husband is Mark Bale and his parents are Fredrick Henry Bale and Eileen Joyce. Fredrick Henry's father was also a Fredrick Henry. His father was John Bale? If this is simular to yours please contact me.

Regards

Re: Bale family

AprilBale — 2010-08-31 14:43:18Z

I do believe this is my family also my great grandfather was Jessie Robert Bale who married Ada May Coe. Can you tell me any more about the family? I would sure appricate it. Thank you April

Re: We're distant Cousins

AprilBale — 2010-08-31 14:21:42Z

Hello, My name is April Bale Campbell, I am trying to find something out about Jesse Robert Bale who married Ada May Coe, and Samuel Andrew Jackson Bale his father. Would you have any info on them? Thank you April