I am very sorry to hear that, That was the person I was in contact with and seemed very kind and helpful. Unfortunately by the time i got old enough to dig into my family Ethel had just passed and my father made many mentions of her and a very vague, met her a few times, kind of mention of Anna. My father did see Otto in Chicago I think. I had tried to reach back out to her a number of times. We had a decent dialogue going and I corrected some of what she mentions but here is the reply i got from her just so you know what she had to say its about 12 emails long but i put in the one with the information. I put my notes in (ERIC:) At the end i put vernon baptists obit. She mentioned a cousin she was going to get information and pictures, possibly, from but that was the last time I heard from her

Eric,
Wow, you have some amazing stuff. I have a cousin in Illinois who has some more details on Ethel's clan. I'll have to dig out his email address and send it to you. Take Care. Lauren

Here’s what I know.

Sanders C. Baptist and Anna Haydock married around the turn of the century 1900 and had 5 children: Otterbein, Ruth, Ethel and 2 others (1 a girl, disabled; the other child unknown). (ERIC: Thomas and Vernon both boys)

Sanders and Anna were married when they were both about 20 and had 5 children almost right in a row. (I don’t know their birth order.) My grandmother, who was Ethel, was born in Vernon, Mississippi around 1900. So Sanders Baptist must of lived there as well. And probably the other children were born in Mississippi. Sanders was of Portuguese decent and the story I heard was that his family immigrated from the island of Madiera off of Portugal to become free of protestant persecution by the catholics. The story goes that Sanders committed suicide when he was about 25 years old. About 6 of Ethel’s extended family have developed problems of bipolar disorder, depression, etc. I had seen a photo of him that one of my aunt’s had. He looked sort of like Festus (cleaned-up) on the TV show Gunsmoke, slender build, narrow eyes, medium dark skin, attractive. Anna was very petite with dark hair, and dark eyes.

At some point, Ethel and her mother, Anna, ended up back in Longview, Illinois. Now I don’t know if that’s right after Sander’s death or later. I lived with my grandmother Ethel in Longview around 1964 and Ethel was about 64 years old then. Anna was living then, but died a few years later when she was nearly ninety. Otterbein then moved into Anna’s house. (Ethel lived in a house next door.) I met Otterbein at this time. He was probably a few years older than Ethel. Neither of them talked much together. He was average height and kind of gruff acting. I didn’t see any relatives of his drop in during this time (Eric: Interestingly my father and grandfather visited him once or twice but that's it). We called him Uncle Otto and he died shortly thereafter (like when 70). I had heard from my relatives that in his younger days Uncle Otto liked to tell jokes.

Now Haydock is an English name, but Otterbein is German, so my guess is that Anna’s mother must have been German.

Ethel lived next door to Anna Haydock. And Ethel had told me that they did not have to pay property taxes because the land came under an 1850 land grant rule. I know that when Ethel’s husband died around 1946, Ethel moved from the farm to the Longview house. This implies that this property was part of the Haydock family assets.

So Ethel, Otto and Ruth are all in the same generation (they were in their 60-70s around 1964).

Ethel did not have any children named Howard (Eric: This is Otterbein's son Howard Otterbein Baptist by our family history of Fathers name in the middle started when we immigrated it seems).

Ruth could have had a child named Howard (Eric: Ruth was married to Russell Boyd w/2 children I believe). I didn’t hear her talk of her children or of being married. Ruth would come to visit from Chicago. Ruth was a larger than life figure and reminded me of Ethel Merman.

Then there is that unknown sibling (who may have died early on) (ERIC: This is Vernon who died from bone tb, I would have to look tobe sure and is buried with Anna, I found the obit)

Laurie Flaherty

Vernon Obit
ed by' letter from other churches. ¦
Thomas Haydock of Cernon, Miss.,
was called here by t he serious sick
ness of Ilia nephew, Vernon Baptist.
He'reached Villa, Grove on an earlv
train Sunday and "was dri ven to 'this
place in an automobile.
Vernon , son of Mrs. Anna Baptist,
died at the home of his mother in this
place Sunday morning of bone tuberculosis,
from which disease he had
been a sufferer practically all his life .
Ills funeral look place from the United
Brethren church at 1.0 o'clock.
Tuesday morning. Kev: G. W. Ball
officiating. , Burial was made in the
Zenke cemetery. The young map
was born near Vernon, .Miss., December
12, 1806, and ' at the tftne of hi<:
death was 1!) years, lb mon ths and
fi days old. When a small child ho
came to this place with his parents
and has resided here ever since. He
leaves-to mourn his death his rao'iiier
, two brot hers, Thomas an d Outer-
;bein , and two sisters , Mrs. Ethel Heel -
Tick and "Mi3s Ruth Baptist, all resid
| ing in this place or vicinity.
I A Woman 's club was organized