Hi Liz, I am replying to your message once again, (maybe you did not get my first reoply) as have not heard from you, perhaps you are like me and do not hit this site as often as would like. My email is betay@clear.net.nz if you want to contact me direct. I have heaps on the Beale side, but not a lot on Abel side which I would love to get hooked on to. I live in Tauranga NZ. Regards Betty