Hello Jim, I just found your post in my email. Just went thru it too fast this morning. Will not type again all that I sent earlier. Thank you for responding to my Ancestry post and hopefully I can use this information to good advantage. My Bisel line did not survive well and very few are researching them. This has made the search for them very difficult. My great grandfather and one of his brothers are the only ancestors to have survivng children. Any other help you can give me will be greatly appreciated. Nancy