http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/mb.ashx 2007-12-18 19:05:43Z http://c.ancestry.com/s/0/p/0/i/logo.gif http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/mb.ashx 175 38 http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.7.9.11/mb.ashx Carol, if you're still checking the boards, email me at <a href="mailto://Sbrehm@aol.com">Sbrehm@aol.com</a>. I have identified pictures of Paschal, his daughter Sarah and Sarah's husband Samuel Parkinson. Pictures were found in a family album by one of my cousins 2007-12-18 19:05:43Z SMBrehm http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.7.9.11/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/22/mb.ashx I'm trying to learn more about Elizabeth Bertine who married James McCarter August 14, 1800 at the First and Second Presbyterian Church in NYC. <br><br>It appears that either Elizabeth or James had a child by a previous marriage as there was girl under 10 listed in their household in the 1800 census. James was at least 35 when they were married, and Elizabeth between 26 and 45 so she would have been born sometime prior to 1774. 2006-11-23 02:16:58Z mckate http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/22/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/22.1/mb.ashx James appeared in court in 1806 on charges that he had beat Elizabeth. She probably left him at this time because she does not appear in his household in the 1810 census<br><br>Did she go back to her family? Who were they? She must have taken any of their children with her, because no children under the age of 10 appear in James household in 1810.<br><br>Would really appreciate any information on Elizabeth and her Bertine family. <br><br>Thanks,<br>Kate<br><br>More information on Elizabeth and James can be found on my web site:<br><br><a href="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mckate/mccarterpage/stories/philander%20_mccarter.htm" target="_blank">http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mckate/mccarterpage...</a> 2006-11-23 02:16:58Z mckate http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/22.1/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/24/mb.ashx Norwalk Union Cemetery headstone inscription reads:<br><br>George H. Bertine, Father, 1884 - 1952.<br><br>Annie J. Brown, wife of Samuel Bertine, 10/17/1863 - 10/31/1899<br><br>Hope this helps someone. 2006-06-07 22:32:34Z Barbarasansob http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/24/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/21.22.2/mb.ashx Was the Elizabeth Bertine you mentioned born in 1779 in NYC and married to Jacob Woolhiser? If so, I would very much be interested in additional inforamtion on this family. Thanks. 2005-01-21 18:26:48Z crwaia1 http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/21.22.2/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/21.22.2.1/mb.ashx Ihave two dates for elizabeth's birth - 1779 and 1788. she was baptized at Trinity Church in NYC 2004-02-27 15:02:41Z quonny1 http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/21.22.2.1/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/23/mb.ashx Listed in the New Rochelle High School book for 1928 at <a href="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cribbs/newrochelle/" target="_blank">http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cribbs/newrochelle/</a><br>Bill<br>Surname Search Utility<br><a href="http://surnames.obitlinkspage.com" target="_blank">http://surnames.obitlinkspage.com</a><br>GenLookups.com<br><a href="http://www.genlookups.com" target="_blank">http://www.genlookups.com</a><br>New York Obituary Links<br><a href="http://obit.obitlinkspage.com/ny.htm" target="_blank">http://obit.obitlinkspage.com/ny.htm</a><br>New York Marriages Search<br><a href="http://www.genlookups.com/ny_marriages/" target="_blank">http://www.genlookups.com/ny_marriages/</a><br>New York CemSEARCH<br><a href="http://www.obitcentral.com/cemsearch/ny-cem.htm" target="_blank">http://www.obitcentral.com/cemsearch/ny-cem.htm</a> 2003-03-14 20:16:06Z cribbs7777 http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/23/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3/mb.ashx Looking for information on Robert Bertine, b. ca. 2/8/1803 in NYC or Westchester. Married Mary C. Barnes. Lived in Smithfield/Amenia, Dutchess County, NY. d. 12/16/1876, buried in Amenia. Children were Ann Eliza (m. J. Sackett Alling), Josephine (m. John Hammond), Gertrude (m. Guernsey Sackett, Mary (m. John R. Thompson), and one son, Robert D. One of the Roberts had a general store in Shekomeko, NY. Robert D. apparently moved to Binghamton, NY in late 1800's. Am looking for any information on ancestors or descendants. The Bertines were of Huguenout ancestry, with the family probably living in NYC or New Rochelle. 2002-09-13 03:01:06Z SMBrehm http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.5/mb.ashx 2002-09-13 03:01:06Z SMBrehm http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.5/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.6/mb.ashx I have just located a P. Bertine on an 1867 map of Eastchester. Given the clippings in my grandmother's scrapbook (see previous reply), I am even more convinced that your Robert and my Robert are one and the same. I can scan map and send to you if you want a copy. Let me know 2002-09-13 03:01:06Z SMBrehm http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.6/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.6.14.16/mb.ashx Since posting my original query on the board, I have gotten a copy of "Piere Bertine -1686: Descendants and allied families", by Dorothy Wilkerson Bertine. It's a true opus of the Bertine family. Dorothy Bertine is a real genealogist, using all sorts of census, church, etc. records. She doesn't guess. If she's not sure of the relationship, she says she's not sure. She also appears to have figured out the various Pierre/Peters, of which there was at least one in each generation. There are a number of Sarah's in the book. If your Sarah is buried at St. Paul's, she's definitely of the same line as Robert, Paschal, William and the rest. So we are in someway cousins. You also have a kissin' cousin named Carol in North Dakota (descended from a William Bertine). Send me as much info as you can about your Sarah and I'll go through the book and find her. We've got a blizzard heading our way, and I may get to it this weekend if my lights stay on. I'm also going to St. Paul's as soon as it warms up. I'll be taking pictures at the cemetery for Carol from North Dakota, and will be glad to take some for you too. 2002-09-13 03:01:06Z SMBrehm http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.6.14.16/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.6.14.16.17.18/mb.ashx 2002-09-13 03:01:06Z SMBrehm http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.6.14.16.17.18/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.6.14.16.17.19/mb.ashx The snow must be affecting my brain. I've confused the Bertines cousins with my Thompson cousins. Your kissin' cousin Carol lives in Wyoming, not North Dakota. And I think her family went west via Michigan, not Minnesota. Nothing like making a stupid mistake on a public message board for all to see for eternity.... 2002-09-13 03:01:06Z SMBrehm http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.6.14.16.17.19/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.7/mb.ashx Should have added that P. Bertine's next door neighbor was a Valentine. Valentine became a family given name in my line of Bertines, giving me even more hope that they're connected 2002-09-13 03:01:06Z SMBrehm http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.7/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.7.9.10/mb.ashx 2002-09-13 03:01:06Z SMBrehm http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.7.9.10/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.7.9.10.11.12/mb.ashx Greetings cousin. I'm quite sure your Peter is also our Peter, as the Bertines seem to be few and far between. Now its a question of figuring out which Peter you're looking for. There appear to be Peter's in each generation, starting with Pierre. Do you have any info other than his wife's name and marriage date? If you send me your e-mail address at <a href="mailto://Sbrehm@aol.com">Sbrehm@aol.com</a>, I'll keep your address and keep you posted on anything I find. 2002-09-13 03:01:06Z SMBrehm http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.7.9.10.11.12/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/21.22.1/mb.ashx I wasn't aware of the book you referenced on descendants of Peter Bertine. Is that book available for purchase?<br><br>I am looking for information on Elizabeth Bertine, who married Thomas Lake on 14 September 1793 at the 1st Presbyterian Church of NYC. Do you have anything on this Elizabeth?<br> <br>Randy Walker<br><a href="mailto://walkerrs15@aol.com">walkerrs15@aol.com</a> 2002-06-23 07:09:54Z walkerrs15 http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/21.22.1/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/21.22.1.2.1/mb.ashx Thanks very much for checking on Elizabeth. This seems like a perfect fit. Elizabeth named one of her sons "Peter B. Lake". I'm guessing the B. was for Bertine. I would be very interested in the data you mentioned on Peter.<br><br>Thanks again,<br><br>Randy Walker 2002-06-23 07:09:54Z walkerrs15 http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/21.22.1.2.1/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/21.22/mb.ashx The book "Peter Bertine, 1686: Descendants <br>and Allied Families" by Dorothy Wilkerson <br>Bertine includes an Elizabeth and an Isaac<br>Bertine, children of Isaac Bertine b. bef.<br>1760 and Sarah. Isaac and Sarah lived in NYC, <br>and children were baptized in Trinity Church<br>NYC. Isaac was the son of Peter Bertine and <br>Judith Renaud. Peter was the son of Peter <br>Bertine and Catherine Secord. If you'd like <br>more info and haven't been contacted by <br>other Bertines, e-mail me at <a href="mailto://dogs@mcn.net">dogs@mcn.net</a>. 2001-02-02 19:25:52Z http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/21.22/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.7.8.15.20/mb.ashx I see on the board that Susan responded <br>before I've had a chance to. Good! I'm <br>glad someone got back to you in short <br>order. I'm descended from the same Peter,<br>through his son William Boyce Bertine.<br>The book is definitely a best buy, but if<br>you'd like, I can send you an Ahnentafel.<br>Waiting is never easy. PS - I'm a Wyomingite<br>but have lived in Sioux Falls, so know<br>Minnesota weather. You have my sincerest<br>sympathy. You can e-mail me at <br><a href="mailto://dogs@mcn.net">dogs@mcn.net</a>. Welcome to the clan! Carol 2000-12-31 16:12:05Z http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.7.8.15.20/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.6.14.16.17/mb.ashx Thank you for your reply. Since my first query, I found more information on Sarah Bertine. From a family letter and a newspaper obituary I have learned the following: Her full name was Sarah Adeline Bertine, born 1818 in NYC. She died in 1903, buried in Mt. Olivet Cemetery in Elmhurst. She had a sister named Mary Ann, (according to the letter). Sarah's first husband was John L. Way. Their two children were Oscar and Susan. From the obituary, it states that Sarah was the daughter of Peter Bertine, a shoe merchant and manufacturer from NYC. He retired to Mt. Vernon. Any other information you find in the book would be greatly appreciated. Is the book you mentioned available for sale that you know of? I would like to buy it for my mother. Sarah Bertine was her great-grandmother. Thank you from a Minnesota branch of the Bertines. Good luck with the blizzard. 2000-12-29 17:59:07Z http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.6.14.16.17/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.7.8.15/mb.ashx My great-great-grandmother was Sarah Adeline Bertine. From a family letter and a newspaper obituary, the information we have is that she was the daughter of Peter Bertine, a shoe merchant and manufacturer in NYC. (The obituary states that Peter retired at an early age to Mount Vernon.) According to the letter, Sarah had a sister named Mary Ann who married an Ezra Carpenter. They had a daughter named Dora. Sarah herself was born in 1818 and died in 1903. With her first husband John L. Way she had a son Oscar and a daughter Susan. Contrary to previous information I had, the obituary states that she was buried in Mount Olivet Cemetery, Elmhurst, NY. I am interested in hearing from others of this branch of the Bertine family tree. 2000-12-29 14:31:31Z http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.7.8.15/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.6.14/mb.ashx Hello - I am looking for ancestors/descendents of Sarah Bertine - born 1818, from Chappaqua, died 1903, buried at St. Paul's in Eastchester. She was married to John Latham Waye. Is this a possible connection to one of the Eastchester Bertine's - Peter? Robert? 2000-12-29 12:25:48Z http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.6.14/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.7.9/mb.ashx I forgot to include Paschal in last night's message. He too is listed in Longworth's as being in the shoe trade in 1835. The scenario that the dates suggest to me is that four brothers, perhaps, Peter, Robert, Samuel, and Paschal made and sold shoes in Brooklyn. Since William would have been only 7 years old in 1835, maybe he was the son of one of the principals and joined the firm when he was old enough. You mentioned that Robert retired after the Civil War. Maybe all four did, and that's why William moved on. I haven't so far found other Bertines in Michigan, but I did run into a Burtine two counties north of where William settled. Some of the Bertine information I have came from a Family Tree Maker CD of NY sources, early censuses, city directories, genealogical society journals, and so forth. Other Bertines in Westchester County and NYC appear in addition to the ones we've discussed. If you'd like information on the others, let me know. I haven't looked at a directory myself to see if might contain more information than the CD includes, and the chances of my accessing a directory here in the backwoods of Wyoming are pretty slim. If you have better opportunities, maybe the original sources could be helpful to you. Oh yes - Pierre Bertine settled in New Rochelle. Thanks so much for your correspondence. We Bertines are pretty scarce; I'd begun to despair that I'd find another. Carol 2000-04-14 11:12:40Z http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.7.9/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.7.8/mb.ashx 2000-04-13 20:22:05Z http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.7.8/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4/mb.ashx I'm fairly certain our Bertines are connected. My William, a Robert, Samual, and Paschal had a shoestore in Brooklyn in the 1850's. William's middle name was Boice, and I've found a Peter Bertine married to an Eliza Boice at the proper time to be William's parents. Peter and Eliza lived in Eastchester, Westchester County. Others of Peter's family lived in New Rochelle. Do you have any further information that if added to mine would complete a corner of the puzzle? 2000-03-21 10:56:02Z http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/2/mb.ashx Looking for information about William Boice Bertine, born 1829, possibly in Westchester County, possibly in Brooklyn. Living in Brooklyn in 1850 and 1860 censuses. MArried Mary E. Angell, born 1830, Clyde, NY. Daughter Katherine Franklin born 1856. Associated with Bertine and Company Shoes, Brooklyn. Family in Kalamazoo, MI, by 1870. 2000-01-31 19:13:55Z http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/2/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/1/mb.ashx Resided in Catskill NY 1843 at which time she married Joseph Tuttle Coleman of Kingston NY. They lived in Dutchess County NY. They had 6 children, Obadiah b 25 Jan 1845,Adelia b 12 Dec 1846, Louisa (or Maria) b 10 Jan 1848. These 3 were b in NY.The last 3 were b in CT: Walter H b 23 Jan 1850,John C b 2 Feb 1853,Keros b 16 Apr 1860 in Redding. Mary died 1903 and is buried in Wooster Cemetery, Danbury CT 2000-01-23 13:23:50Z http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/1/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/21.22.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx If you'll send your snailmail address to <a href="mailto://rjcsjones@vcn.com">rjcsjones@vcn.com</a>, I'll photocopy and send. And I'll include the book author's information in case you want to contact her. The books aren't cheap, but they're really well researched and documented. 2001-12-15 03:08:15Z http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/21.22.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/21.22.1.2/mb.ashx Dorothy Bertine's book doesn't specifically indicate an Elizabeth married to Thomas Lake. The Elizabeth who seems most likely was the daughter of Peter Bertine and Judith Renaud. Elizabeth's brothers Peter and JAmes were born in 1760 and 1763. No birth date is listed for either Elizabeth or brother Isaac. These Bertines were residents of NEw York City. Peter is buried iin St. Paul's Church Yard, Trinity Parish, Broadway &amp; Fulton. Peter was the son of Peter Bertine and Catharine Secord. If this information somehow leads you to the proof you need, get back in touch, and I'll arrange to photocopy info about Peter's ancestors. Since there's no information on Elizabeth other than the fact she existed, there's probably no pressing need for you to buy the book. But if you want to, I'll get you name and address so you can contact the author. 2001-12-15 00:23:30Z http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/21.22.1.2/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/21.22.1.1/mb.ashx I've been offline for awhile; sorry for the delay. I'll check my Bertine book to see if your Lake family is listed and get back to you. Thanks for your patience. 2001-12-14 16:54:11Z http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/21.22.1.1/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.7.9.10.11/mb.ashx I am looking for a peter bertine who was married to elizabeth paulding. He had a daughter, catherine bertine, who married henry smith in 1813. could this be my peter? 2001-06-25 04:50:29Z littlebabe http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/3.4.7.9.10.11/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/13/mb.ashx At the Westchester County, NY Historical Society library in Elmsford, NY there is a BERTINE genealogy: "Pierre Bertine - 1686, Descendants and Allied Families" by Dorothy Wilkerson Bertine George F. Bertine II. The publisher is Dorothy Wilkerson Bertine, 913 Chasewood, Denton, Texas 76205-8203. It is a fairly recent publication, for anyone interested. Joan 2001-06-22 18:56:32Z JTurnure0753 http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/13/mb.ashx http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/21/mb.ashx Elizabeth BERTINE, d/o Isaac Sarah, b.1778 in NYC, md. Jacob WOOLHISER about 1798. Does anyone have any info on her or husb? Her bro. was Isaac also, b. 1781.<br><br> leigh 2001-10-22 18:25:12Z lwoolhiser http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.bertine/21/mb.ashx