Besse - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Ephraim Besse

jocelynb — 2012-05-31 00:19:52Z

Frank J Besse was born in Whiteside. His father was Wells and grandfather was Norman...then Peter ...then Ephraim.
Frank married an Allen and they moved to the Dakota Territories.

Does this help ?

Re: Ephraim Besse

magicone29 — 2012-05-30 22:42:23Z

My most known Besse was Lydia Besse and she married Owen Dorathy. Large family and most stayed in Illinois. Not sure what Besse's went onto the Dakota's. They were connected to Ephraim though.

Re: Ephraim Besse

jocelynb — 2012-05-30 15:57:13Z

Hi "Cousins"

We go back to the Besse's in Illinois also....where they met up with the Allen's and then the Starkweathers (and onto the Dakota Territories).

Paternity of Muriel Knisely

orbeckio — 2012-02-10 23:43:32Z

This is a long shot at best- my husband's Grandma Muriel Knisely was the daughter of Edna Mabel Besse. She had her in Minnesota when she was 20, in the year 1916, and did not identify her father she then married a man named Harry Wm Knisely and moved with him to Nebraska. She left Muriel back in Minnesota with her mother. Her paternity was never revealed. Is there anyone who knows anything of this mystery?

Re: Family in the Besse in the Mass area

Dale_H_Cook — 2012-01-27 22:15:51Z

> The tribe is the Wampanog from the Cape. It is the great
> grandmother of Walter Besse.

Would you please cite some contemporary records to support that position? Although Wampanoag ancestry has often been asserted for Plymouth Colony families, the vast majority of those making such assertions cannot prove them.

Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants;
Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project
Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net

Re: Family in the Besse in the Mass area

laura3541 — 2012-01-27 21:36:34Z

Sam my name is Linda DeSousa ur father was my uncle. The tribe is the Wampanog from the Cape. It is the great grandmother of Walter Besse. She has some ties with the tribe and I am currently looking into it. Uncle Donald said that he remembers his great great grandmother being Indian.

Re: Family in the Besse in the Mass area

Dale_H_Cook — 2012-01-27 20:52:51Z

> I have info going back to Phillip Besse in England, his son John
> and his son Anthony Besse.

I would suggest that you re-check your sources. Recent research concludes that nothing is known of Anthony's origin or parentage save that he was perhaps of London. See the well-documented sketch of Anthony Bessey and his family in Robert Charles Anderson, "The Great Migration: Immigrants to New England 1634-1635," Volume I (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), pp. 266-270.

Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants;
Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project
Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net

Re: Family in the Besse in the Mass area

laura3541 — 2012-01-27 20:26:16Z

ur cousin Walter is my grandfather. If u have any more info I would appreciater it so much. Thanks

Re: Family in the Besse in the Mass area

laura3541 — 2012-01-27 20:22:22Z

i am a Besse. I have info going back to Phillip Besse in England, his son John and his son Anthony Besse. they go back to 1500

Re: Family in the Besse in the Mass area

laura3541 — 2012-01-27 20:19:15Z

i am one of the daughters of Jacqueline, your father's sister. Uncle reggie was my uncle. Need info on him for our family tree. Any info u like let us know

Re: JOSEPH BESSE

timbesse — 2011-11-18 22:02:19Z

I have found information regarding Francois Joseph Besse.
He was born in Iroquois County, IL and in 1907 migrated to Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
He was first married to Josephine Virginie Pilotte.
They had 8 children.
She died and he then married Cordelia.
They had 7 Children.
I can help you with more info.

Whedon trust

Sharon_Kinnison — 2011-09-26 22:56:58Z

Looking for Lois E. Besse.

Re: Henrietta B. Besse abt 1806 - 1844 Wareham MA

hxsaver — 2011-09-20 12:06:54Z

You may already have this information, but......
According to the vital records of Hallowell Maine, there was a Henrietta Besse b.1798 to Ebenezer & Patience Besse.
Siblings were:Braddock 1801, Ebenezer 1803, George 1804, Louisa 1806 and Julia 1808/9.
The surprising thing is that her father (Ebenezer) is listed as being born in WAREHAM to Jabez & Ruth! Wareham vitals record an Ebenezer born to Jabez & Ruth in March 1754.
There must be a connection there as Charles Hay was also born in Maine. Perhaps Charles & Henrietta came to Wareham because of relatives there.
Does this help?

To descendants of Henrietta Besse & Charles Hay

hxsaver — 2011-09-20 11:40:40Z

If you would email me directly at hxsaver@gmail.com, I will forward an image of an item that belonged to Charles Hay of Wareham (husband of Henrietta B.)
Currently doing research on Mr. Hay for historic background information on this heirloom. Any assistance by the family is appreciated.

Re: Henrietta B. Besse abt 1806 - 1844 Wareham MA

jhitch7 — 2011-08-13 14:53:21Z

Here's some more on my Ancestors HAY and BESSE from Wareham MA
s/Jim Hitchcock jhitch7@verizon.net

Wareham Marriages and Intentions from Town Books 1 and 2
2:226 Besse, Henrietta Wareham Hay, Charles Wareham int. 27-Nov 1824
2:228 Besse, Henrietta B. Wareham Hay, Charles Wareham m. 19-Dec 1824 Rev. Daniel Hemmingway

Hay, Charles, Nov 11 1797 - Nov 27 1837, b Portland Me., d Wareham Mass.
Hay, Henrietta B., d Aug 10 1844, age 38y, w Charles

Re: family roots

timbesse — 2011-08-08 00:47:12Z

Édouard "Edward" Besse, b. 25 Apr 1828, St. Roch des Aulnaies, Québec, Canada; d. 22 Dec 1905, Ennis, Ellis County, TX; bur. Ennis, Ellis County, TX (St. Joseph's Cemetery).
Married Philomène Tétreault dit Poitras, 29 Feb 1860, L'Erable, Iroquois County, IL.
Philomène Tétreault dit Poitras, b. 20 Mar 1840, Montmagny, Québec, Canada; d. 29 Jan 1912, Electra, Wichita County, TX; bur. Electra, Wichita County, TX (Mt. Carmel Cemetery).

Besse-Huder

timbesse — 2011-08-06 20:15:13Z

I am trying to obtain copy of an obituary for Ada Belle Huder Besse that was run in The Times Picayune, April 4 & 5, 1951.
She was the wife of Omer Hermenengilde Besse.
They were married 19 Oct 1907, in Orleans Parish, LA.
Ada Belle Huder was the daughter of Peter John Huder and Ellen "Nellie" Parker.
This obituary would be very useful.

Re: Stephanie Besse

timbesse — 2011-08-06 20:10:35Z

My records indicate that Marie Stephanie "Fanny" Besse married Joseph Xavier Laine, II (variations of spelling Lánée-Lene-Lainez-Leny), on 3 Mar 1862, in Beaverville, (St. Marie Parish), IL (St. Marie Catholic Church).

Henrietta B. Besse abt 1806 - 1844 Wareham MA

jhitch7 — 2011-08-04 00:32:29Z

Henrietta B. Besse is a direct descendent of mine. She married Charles H. Hay in Wareham 18 Dec 1824 - had at least 2 children: Charles H. and Henrietta Smith. I cannot find who Henrietta's parents are. Please let me know if you have anything about her parents. Thanks.
Jim Hitchcock (Rockville, MD)

Re: Ephraim Besse

magicone29 — 2011-07-18 23:55:15Z

Peter Bachus Besse and Roderick, Norman, Ebenezer, Sarah and John were the children of Peter Besse and his father was Ephraim Besse. I have different parents for Ephraim but I know without a doubt that Peter and his brothers, Norman and Roderick came to Whiteside County Illinois and were some of the earliest settlers in the area. I have the headstone of Peter Backus Besse and his wife Sarah and children Charlie and Eugene

Re: Family in the Besse in the Mass area

Dale_H_Cook — 2011-07-04 10:49:19Z

> The tribal chief checked their records and could find nothing
> either.

Sue -

In all the years in which I have conversed with those who thought that they had Native American ancestry, you are the first to look to Native American leaders for evidence. For that you are to be highly commended because you have been trying to find evidence that satisfies the genealogical standards for evidence. I wish you had found something - you could probably have gotten it published in one of the major genealogcal journals and shamed many who claim 17th-century Wampanoag ancestry without proof.

Sometimes Mayflower ancestry turns up in an unexpexted place. My Easton-born grandmother always knew that she had Mayflower ancestors, but it was not until long after she and my Harwich-born grandfather were gone that I discovered his Mayflower ancestors. If your ancestry has any unresolved 17-century or early 18th-century branches in southeastern MA you may yet find a Pilgrim in your tree. If a library near you had Mayflower Descendant you may wish to check the indices, as they have often published articles naming 7th and 8th generation descendants (who do not appear in the Silver Books). Alternatively, I own a complete run of MD and would be glad to look for you - go to the web site listed in my signature and use the email link at the bottom of that page.

Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants;
Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project
Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net

Re: Family in the Besse in the Mass area

srlm58 — 2011-07-04 01:29:37Z

Hi Dale, my mother had heard of an Indian marriage but I can see the male she attributed it to was married to a woman of English heritage. The tribal chief checked their records and could find nothing either.
On another note, I see you are a member of the MA Soc. of Mayflower Descendants. I have lately been trying to see if I am a Mayflower descendant but so far I am just the descendant of the stepmother of Mayflower descendants... so close, but not quite.
~Sue

Re: Family in the Besse in the Mass area

Dale_H_Cook — 2011-07-03 17:10:50Z

> ... Besse ... If any one know's the Indian trib that they came
> from ...

I know of no reputable source giving the Besses any Native American connections other than Anthony's missonary work among the Native Americans. It is Austin Bearse about whose wife spurious "Wampanoag" claims were made, and those claims were debunked nearly three-quarters of a century ago [TAG, 15:111-118].

Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants;
Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project
Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net

Re: Family in the Besse in the Mass area

jonkayni — 2011-07-03 16:34:33Z

Sue, I cannot post my Anthony tree data through this system, so send me your email address and I will be able to do that. Jon
JonKayni@Comcast.net

Re: Family in the Besse in the Mass area

srlm58 — 2011-07-02 23:25:23Z

Hi Jon, I have a line through Benjamin Franklin Besse back to 1632 but it links to Stowell. Do you have more info on the Besse line?
Sue

Re: Family in the Besse in the Mass area

srlm58 — 2011-07-02 23:21:59Z

My mother spoke of cousin Walter. She also was convinced of a Wampanoag connection but we have been unable to confirm it through our research or through the tribal records. Have you found any new information?
Sue

Re: Eugene Besse - Ennis (Ellis Co) Texas

timbesse — 2010-12-04 01:24:14Z

Thank you for the clarification Sherry

Re: Eugene Besse - Ennis (Ellis Co) Texas

sherrymgr — 2010-12-03 21:25:25Z

Eugene Joseph Besse was first burried in St Joseph Cemetery in Ennis, Ellis, Texas. He was moved later to Calvary Hill Cemetery in Dallas, Dallas, Texas, after his wife moved to Dallas to live with her son Cletus and His wife Helen. They are both burried in Calvary Hill Cemetery.

Re: Eugene Besse - Ennis (Ellis Co) Texas

timbesse — 2010-11-14 21:17:10Z

Do you have the newspaper clipping in digital format? If so could you please attach it to this message board?

Thank you,
Tim Besse

Re: Great Grandfather

kr07657 — 2010-10-22 16:53:40Z

I guess I have multiple usernames, but anyway

kr07657@gmail.com would work

Thanks so much

Kim

Re: Great Grandfather

timbesse — 2010-10-22 15:42:37Z

Kim,

I attempted to send you a message, but I was sent to a subscription page for ancestry-com membership application.
Send me you email addy and I will try to provide you with any information that I have that may help you.

Tim

Re: Great Grandfather

timbesse — 2010-10-22 01:02:20Z

My limb of the family tree migrated down to Louisiana, so it wasn't until I found the BESSE's that left France and followed the genealogical trail back and discovered the other limbs, branches, twigs, and new sprouts. I will help in any way that I can.

Re: Great Grandfather

KimReed345 — 2010-10-22 00:13:07Z

YES, that is exactly what I am talking about! Would you be willing to compare notes directly?

Re: Great Grandfather

timbesse — 2010-10-21 23:46:26Z

I have Edward BESSE, b. 25 Apr 1828, in St. Roch des Aulnaies, Québec, Canada; d. 22 Dec 1905, in Ennis, Ellis County, TX; bur. in Ennis, Ellis County, TX (St. Joseph Cemetery).
He was married to Philomène TÉTREAULT Dit Poitras, b. 20 Mar 1840, in Montmagny, Québec, Canada; chr. abt 1845, in St. Thomas de Montmagny, Québec, Canada; d. 29 Jan 1912, in Electra, Wichita County, TX; bur. Electra, Wichita County, TX (Mt. Carmel Cemetery).
Edward was the son of Louis Firmin BESSE and Elenore MORNEAU. Philomène was the daughter of Pierre TÉTREAULT Dit Poitras, III and Francoise CÔTE.

Re: Eugene Besse - Ennis (Ellis Co) Texas

timbesse — 2010-10-21 21:20:09Z

Eugene Joseph Besse b. 26 Sep 1876, in Kankakee, IL; d. 30 Jan 1936, in Ennis, Ellis County, TX; buried 1 Feb 1936, in Dallas, Dallas County, TX (Calvary Hill Cemetery)

Re: Besse, John Wallace

Abesse1 — 2010-07-08 23:27:36Z

my grandpa was henry oliver besse remember him talking about his brother wallace besse grandpa was born in wis in 1882

Re: Besse/Bessey of Wareham, Plympton, MA

starrmb — 2010-06-26 20:13:41Z

Thanks for info and quick response!

Re: Besse/Bessey of Wareham, Plympton, MA

bobbysailor — 2010-06-25 11:50:53Z

Try http://genforum.genealogy.com/bessey

You can contact Jon Nicholson from there

regards, bobbysailor

Besse/Bessey of Wareham, Plympton, MA

starrmb — 2010-06-25 00:16:52Z

..am searching for any info on Seth Gibbs Besse, son of Asa and Abia, husband of Cathering Gibbs, brother of Elisha and father of Stetson Briggs Besse. Word has it he was a sailor and was killed @1848. Any info would be greatly appreciated!!! thanks

Re: Besse Family

timbesse — 2010-06-24 01:31:33Z

I have just run across this post - following the siblings of Antoine Besse b. ca 1690, Jean Besse ca. 1716, Pierre Besse ca 1735, and the offspring of these ancestors from France. My family roots sank down in Louisiana - I have noticed that some have sunk down in Texas - and some must've loved that more temperate environment and stay up in Canada and the northern climates.
Very helpful hints you offer here to further my family research.

Re: Besse, John Wallace

harrah3 — 2010-05-14 20:19:13Z

Clara Ellen (Besse)Underwood Pedttyjohn Webb was born Jan 26, 1908 Raum, Ar and died in a Dallas Nursing Home July 18, 2006 buried in Laurel Land Memorial Park in Dallas Texas. She left her family Clarence Jefferson Underwood Dec 3, 1903-Dec 20,1965 buried McKeesport and Versailles Cemetery McKeesport, Allegheny Co, Pa.Their children Clarence Eugene July 14,1928-Sept 30, 2007 -Ashes will be laided to rest when girlfriend says so in same cem as Donald and grandparents - Donald Gene Nov 1, 1929-Mar 14, 1945 buried Riverside Cemetery Ralston,Ok - Vivian Irene 1926 died in Ca ?? more....

Clara married Hubert Pettyjohn ? then Charles Webb she had 13 children. Her first 3 where ages 4-5-7raised by John and Birdie Besse. Gene saw her first time in 1986 with 3 step-sisters Judy-June-Shirley. Gene was retired army m.#1 Eunice Faye (Frair)OKC (2) boys born Bobby and Donald -#2 Dorothy Charles in TN no children born. more...

Clarence Jefferson moved to PA to find work after family fallout -reasons unknown. After Donald (brother of Gene died)Gene joined Army same day -

John Besse b. Jan 18, 1885-Racine WI m. Sept 27, 1904 Enon AR died Nov 1962 of heart attack in Ralston OK buried Riverside Cem with Birdie b. Feb 7, 1887 Missouri died Jan 26, 1977. I have marriage Lic and their son Silas b. Aug 28, 1918 died Oct 9, 1963 Kermit Texas I have death cert. Their dau Delta Pearl m. Ira Owen Peden Nov 4,1940 I have marriage lic. more...

I have pics to share also of Gene - Clara and Vivian Irene.

Re: Besse, John Wallace

harrah3 — 2010-05-07 04:31:58Z

I have pictures of (Clara Ellen Besse)Underwood Webb lots of family info if anyone would like to write me. Her son Clarence Eugene "Gene" Underwood was my dad. My brothers are Bobby and Donnie(named after Gene's brother)Underwood. I have been researching them all for quite awhile and have alot to share.I have Thomas Jefferson Underwood info too and Gene's Dad Clarence Jefferson Underwood. Gene was born July 14, 1928 and died Sept 30, 2007. I have been looking for family to share info with. I have info on John and Birdie Besse also. Please e-mail tralyn@windstream.net

John or Tryphenna / Typhone Besse

juliet_albers — 2010-04-14 00:51:56Z

Anyone interested or have knowledge of brother and sister named John and Tryphenna/Typhone Besse? She married Elijah Graves, a shoemaker in Ontario, Canada. Brother John Besse turns up in 1880 census in Mecosta County, MI. with nephew Elijah Graves, Jr. and wife Fanny.

I am not a member of this board, so please contact me at:

juliet_albers@yahoo.com or at: 105 N. Whispering Oaks Dr., Glendora, CA. USA 91741-3989

Re: Death of George Besse - Ennis, Texas 1900

maryachtrh — 2010-04-05 02:59:32Z

Sorry I was just transcribing papers. No relation.

Re: Death of George Besse - Ennis, Texas 1900

rhsci — 2010-04-05 02:31:57Z

George Besse son of David and Eulalie Besse
Born 10 Oct 1878
Died 27 July 1900

Do you have any others from Besse in Ellis County Texas?

Death of George Besse - Ennis, Texas 1900

maryachtrh — 2010-04-04 17:50:21Z

Taken from the Dallas Morning News, 29 June 1900

Besse - Ennis, Texas, June 28 - George Besse, a young farmer at Alma, who was overcome by heat about two weeks ago while working in his field, died last night.

Re: Edward Besse (Bessey) b. 1794 Rochester/Wareham MA

bobbysailor — 2010-03-24 12:34:46Z

Kathy, Please contact me at

circle32@verizon.net

Thx

Re: Heinrich Ludwig (Henry) Besse Sr. and Family

lrsenne07 — 2010-03-18 13:41:25Z

I am sorry, but these people are not in my family tree. We are swiss-german-american. Perhaps an older member of your family can help get you started? That's how I got started, and then I went to the library and read some books on genealogy. Good luck!

Besse family of Morgan City, St. Mary Parish, Louisiana

jeanmayo1053 — 2009-12-09 23:43:49Z

Is anyone researching the Besse family in Morgan City, St. Mary Parish, Louisiana?
Jean Mayo

Robert Besse in ILL

MarilynRoth58 — 2009-12-02 15:22:59Z

Here are a few more clues. Lyndon Cem., Whiteside Co., IL, BESSE
Robert J. (1855 - 1943) & wf. Harriet McDEARMON (12 Nov. 1861 - Mar. 1934) dau/o Louisa [WELLS] & Wm. McDEARMON.
Dau. Marie (1892 - 13 Feb. 1893)
Ruel, no dates.

Pilot.familysearch.org, 1900 census, Lyndon, Whiteside Co., IL, BESSE
Robert J., b. Dec. 1855, IL NY NY, married 16 y.
Wf. Harriet, b. Nov. 1861, IL NY MA, had 5 ch., 4 living, b. IL
Robert W., Feb. 1885; Wm. M., Dec. 1886; Arthur D., Oct. 1895; Lena H., May 1898.

Illinois State Archives Marriage Database, Whiteside Co., BESSE
Bachus B., 5 Feb. 1843, Sarah CROOK
Sarah [BESSEE], 8 Dec. 1844, Albert CROOK
Roderick, 8 Nov. 1855, Marietta GREEN
Josephine, 17 May 1865, Edwin R. PADDOCK
Louisa, 10 Nov. 1865, Erastus FULLER
Sarah, 4 Je. 1873, Andrew J. BRACKEN
H. Clay [Henry?], 9 Apr. 1876, Allie CROSSLEY
Robert J., 9 Jan. 1884, Harriet McDEARMON [more BESSE marriages].

These are listed together in Whiteside Co., IL, 1860, BESSIE:
Joseph[ine], 14; Louisa, 13; George, 10; Sarah, 8; Henry, 6; & Robert J., 5.

Indexed BESSER in 1850, Dist. 37, Whiteside Co., p. 389:
B., 37, & Sarah, 24, both b. NY. Eugena, male, 6; Josephine, 4; George, 3 mos., Roderick, 34.

USGenWeb, Whiteside Co., IL, History of Portland Twp., 1877: Among the first settlers in 1835: Horace BURKE, Simeon FULLER, & P. Baechus {sic} BESSE. BURKE settled northwest of what became Spring Hill, FULLER a few miles east, and P. Bacehus {sic} BESSE still farther east, near the village where he lives (1877). Rodney BESSE arrived in 1836.

There are online obits for Sarah [LOVE] BESSE, d. 1907, aged 81, and two others more recent, Marion & John H.

Now you get to solve the puzzle of the marriage to Sarah CROOK in 1843 & Sarah LOVE in the obituary.

--not my family