Bluejacket - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Continue from 1rst post message

Malyso755 — 2012-05-15 22:50:04Z

I know this was posted a long time ago so you may have already found some of this information. William F Hildebrand born 1910 to John D Hildebrand and Esther O Chapman. They married in 1909. William was born 1910 and his sister born 1913. Sometime after that, they divorced and they each remarried...John in 1919 to Mary McVey and Esther in 1918 to Albert T Storch. In the 1920 Census, William is listed with his grandparents (Chapman)in Kansas.
I don't find any Bluejacket connection (I am a Bluejacket descendant). It seems William was born a Hildebrand and adopted as a Storch (his mother's 2nd husband). If you have any more information regarding the Bluejacket part of this, let me know. The two you mentioned, Charles David (son of David L Bluejacket and Eliza Silverheels) born 1891 and Blake Henry Bluejacket born 1909 (son of Edward S Bluejacket and Etta Manley) don't seem to be connected to your William Storch in any way.

Marsha

Re: Bluejacket

janisestanley — 2012-04-25 03:03:38Z

Hi, I wasn't sure how to contact you because I don't have a paid for account so what I can do is limited. I saw you saved a picture of my great-grandparents Andy and Beulah Earls, do you have any information on Beulah and her parents? I can't find any information any further back than Beulah. I just thought I'd ask. I apologize for contacting you this way but I'm a student and genealogy is my hobby so most of my money goes to that...

Re: Bluejacket myth

LBEubanks — 2012-02-21 16:30:56Z

hmm, I am not related (although I do have family that lives in Bluejacket, OK) and just today, I was reading the DNA results of the Swearingen claim. My DH met Bobby BlueJacket yesterday and I was interested in reading up on Bluejacket." Your "Science has concluded there is no possible way these two families are related" is not true. The Swearingen DNA has proven that they are descendants of Blue Jacket's son George, but there is no evidence that Blue Jacket was Caucasian. Just thought you'd like to know.

Re: Bluejacket

AnitaSnowM — 2010-11-03 22:18:34Z

Hi I found your 2000 post on ancestry aboout the Bluejacket Family Tree. Through the Piqua Shawnee Project you spoke of they got in contact with me last year asking for my SNOW DNA. Mr. Hinshaw wrote back stating I was over 99.9% descendant of Chief Bluejacket. I am also told his son George is the only one who had descendants. I would like to know whom I can contact for this tree. I do not know from whom I descend as my gg grandfather 1845, was born out of wedlock and did not know his parents. This would help tremendously!I also would like to join the tribe; however, I am not asking for monies. Thank you, Anita snowbaby9275@aol.com

Re: Mary Bluejacket

alteregomaxine — 2010-10-14 05:20:04Z

In reply to your inquiry, I did not research the Allen surname, only Watson. I knew my grandfather married a native american and lived in Bluejacket, OK. After much research I found a marriage record on the OK Native American archives showing that Mary Bluejacket had married an Allen as her first husband. My grandfather's name was Bert Watson. I don't know of any children born to either husband. My grandfather was born in 1894. He didn't divorce my grandmother until 1928 or there around. You might be able to research the USGenweb, OK to find what I did. It's been a while. I have a paper record, but don't know where it is.

Re: Mary Bluejacket

Angelacrow323 — 2010-10-13 13:26:36Z

I read your message about the Allen husband... I am an Allen and we are trying to find a link between the Allen family and Bluejacket family. Several descendants of George and Henry Bluejacket tested their DNA and I was an exact match. So, we KNOW we are Blujackets but cannot find where the Allen came in. Could you tell me what time frame that Mary married an Allen? How many kids did they have??

Mary Bluejacket

alteregomaxine — 2010-07-13 03:57:22Z

I am looking for any information or family of Mary Bluejacket. Her first husband may have been a gentleman surnamed Allen. Her second husband was my grandfather, Bert Watson. The last known address I had for him was in Bluejacket, OK. He died in 1987 in Miami, OK. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Lynn E. Watson

Re: Eliza Blackfeather Bluejacket and Willis Jay Bluejacket

ahorntoad — 2010-04-20 21:06:05Z

Eliza was my great grandmother. Minnie Bluejacket was my grandmother. I've named my vinyard after the Blackfeathers.
If you haven't had any success to this point, try to get in touch with Ann Chaney who lives in Tulsa. Sorry I don't know her e-mail address. She has done a great job with the family tree.

bluejacket dna project

clermontpark — 2009-06-25 00:36:00Z

Any of you that think you are related to the
Bluejacket Family, may run your dna (male or female)
at family tree dna (ftdna.com) and asked to be put in
the Piqua Shawnee Project, which they will do.
This project is handled by the ftdna folks and has
a Coordinator. Ftdna phone number is 713-868-1438.
the test cost around 100 dollars for male. a male can
run both his male and female test for around 140.00,
may be a bit higher. and a female can only run female
side or have her brother run male side.
anyway call them and they will explain everything.
if you join the project, we will contact you when
results come back and also you will receive a copy
of everything from them,, results are over 99 percent
correct..
Gene Park Coordinator Piqua Project
ewest14@woh.rr.com

Re: Bluejacket

lindakincaidwhite — 2009-05-28 14:23:27Z

Hi Nancy-I think you must be related to Dan Rankin? I have been in communication with him about these folks. Everything I know is on my family tree Kincaid Families on ancestry.
Here is my email address. Please email me directly and I will send you a summery of that information for your use. Look forward to hearing from you. I would like to see information about the Rankin family as we have connections there.
lindakincaidwhite@gmail.com

Re: Bluejacket

NancyJoeRankinKelly — 2009-05-28 04:34:36Z

Hi,
In your extensive reseach of the BlueJacket family have you come across any information on Nancy J or Julia ann Short? Their father was Joseph Short. I beleive his grandfather was Lt Col. William Charles Short who married Sally Bluejacket. Please let me know if I am on the right track and if you have any information to share with me. I am a novice reseacher in genealogy so any help would be appreciated!
Thank you,
Nancy J Kelly

Re: Bluejacket

lindakincaidwhite — 2009-01-28 16:26:02Z

I saw your request to be contact with Bluejacket family members. I am one and live in Cincinnati. I would love to correspond with you if you are interested. My family has done extensive Bluejacket family research and it is all on ancestry with many pictures.
Linda J White

Re: Eliza Blackfeather Bluejacket and Willis Jay Bluejacket

joplin43 — 2008-10-10 21:34:30Z

Denise can you Scan the picture and e-mail it to me. Whitney finely got her Shawnee Card. I just wish I knew more about Eliza Blackfeather Bluejacket. I am keeping all the info for my grandchildren and Great-grandchildren. I know they well want it some day or it will be lost for ever.
Jack Panter is her grandfather and Sue was her grandmother.

Thanks Pat
jsps1@cableone.net

Re: Eliza Blackfeather Bluejacket and Willis Jay Bluejacket

dcofas — 2008-10-10 20:58:40Z

Hi Pat,

Are you talking about Sue Waugh that married Jack Panter?

Sue was the daughter of John and Midge (Bluejacket) Waugh. I have a picture of her and her family, Panters, at a gathering at their house after Dora Waugh's funeral. Sue's father was my great uncle. I don't have any information regarding the Cherokee or Shawnee bloodline. I can check and see if I can find something for you if you still need it?
Denise Cofas

Death of Simon Bluejacket

maryachtrh — 2007-12-13 22:06:24Z

Appears in "The Wapanucka Press" 1 January 1903 Wapanucka, Johnston County, Indian Territory, now Oklahoma

Simon Bluejacket, a prominent citizen of the Cherokee Nation was run down and killed by a Katy freight train at Bluejacket.

Re: Bluejacket, Oklahoma

kansas1949 — 2007-06-27 06:12:48Z

Betty-June resides in Chetopa, KS. She is a cousin of my late step-dad's.

Re: Bluejacket

cchadwick142 — 2006-03-22 23:06:07Z

Hi Kathy,
Would your Bluejacket have a connection to the Bond surname. I am trying to place the name Blue or Bluejacket in my lines, as I have heard it mentioned for years.
My GGGparents were Thomas Langford brn abt 1778 NC.,and unk Phebe.GGparents were Silas Langford brn abt 1812 IT TN,and Mary(ME-LI)Seitz brn abt 1824 IT TN.
GGparents unk Chadwick,and Mary(James?)Chadwick brn abt 1831 NC.
GGparents Allen Bond brn abt 1850 AR,and Sarah Wilson brn abt 1850 KY. It very well could be something to do with OK?,which has also be mentioned.like maybe someone in my line lived there?.and I do know that I had a relative James(Jim)Chadwick who l believe lived in Pittsburg Co OK abt 1920/30.
Thanks very much,
Roy Chadwick aka Shadrach.

To the List Administrator

2005-08-18 12:34:08Z

Could you email me? Got a question for you.
Needing permission for something.

Gary Bluejacket

2005-07-14 16:40:17Z

My name is Linda Lee I live in Tulsa, Ok I am looking for a Guy by the name of Gary Bluejacket. He once attented the Christ Gospel Church on the north side of Town inTuls, Ok. I am trying to contact him because he has a daughter by the name of Lisa who wants to meet him. He got a girl pregnant by the name of Rachel Taylor. Lisa has never met her dad and wants to meet him desperately any help would be very much appreciated.

Thank you
Linda Lee
Tulsa, Ok

Margaret "Peggy" Moore

2005-06-30 18:00:42Z

Bluejacket married Margaret Moore, can someone tell me who her parents were?

donald45385@yahoo.com

Bluejacket Marriages Indian Territory- (Oklahoma) 1890s+

hoodhuntr — 2005-06-18 15:04:43Z

From Indian Chieftain Clippings- I have No further information

Bluejacket, Carrie m. H L Bingham (Dennison Tx) - Vinita 30 Nov 1899

Bluejacket, Dean m. N P Wilber Muskogg/ Bolen Ferry 15 Jun 1890

Bluejacket, H C m. Emma Jean Faught - Bluejacket IT 21 Jan 1897

Bluejacket, Ida m. Will Wade Bluejacket, 15 May 1895

Bluejacket, Mamie m. Charles Bingham , Vinita 6 Jun 1901

Bluejacket, Rena m Fred Chilson (Vinita/ Ponca City) 25 Oct 1900

Bluejacket, Rosa m. H R Allen Vinita 4 Jan 1894

Bluejacket, Silas m. A C Gullet Vinita 7 Aug 1884

Bluejacket, Steve A m. Jennie Burks , Vinita 17 Oct 1889

Re: bluejacket

2005-06-05 12:45:25Z

"BLUE JACKET" by ALLEN W. ECKERT Well, he isn't much of an authority on Blue Jacket as far as I am concerned. I mainly want to know about Mrs Baby though. It sure would be nice to have documentation as what her name was. I am not a Blue Jacket descendant, but have a great interest in his life as an Indian, and not a white man....as the story goes.....and it goes on and on and on. I see him as a great Native American!!!

My email is SRouse 1937@aol.com if you would like to email further.

Re: BLUEJACKET

gpack_1 — 2005-06-05 02:43:57Z

there are four charles blue jacket,s which one you need?

Re: bluejacket

gpack_1 — 2005-06-05 02:30:01Z

read "BLUE JACKET" by ALLEN W. ECKERT" why, and how come. he,s one of the why,s of the eastern shawnee. look in mi., kansas, and indian territory, and oklahoma. not us but some in missouri. three, charles blue jacket,s this is where most miss the boat. charles born 1817 kansas is son of george blue jacket and mary black-hoof, george dies and charles now lives with uncle charles blue jacket, methodist minister in kansas,this is almost where kansas city, kansas is now.

Bluejacket in Cherokee National Female Seminary 1904/5 school year

wyrwheel — 2005-04-12 17:04:02Z

Freshmen: Bluejacket Lucinda, Bluejacket, I.T.
Bluejacket Gertrude, Bluejacket, I.T.

Thought this might help someone.

Fred Bluejacket

2005-01-05 20:40:12Z

I recently discovered a letter written in february of
1942 from a gentleman named Fred Bluejacket, sent to
[i believe] his mother-Rose Anthony of Pekin, Illinois.
In this letter, he mentions his wife, Bette, her friend,
Buelah, and what I assume is his daughter, Patti. At the time this letter
was written, He was working for the
"Chicago Bridge and Iron company", assigned to Hamilton, Bermuda. I am very
interested in tracking any
relative, so that I might get this letter into their hands.
I feel that they would be very interested in it.
If you can help me, I would appreciate it very much. You can email me at this address:
Following is my name and email address:

allan19432000@yahoo.com

Helen Armentrout

Letter sent to Bluejacket Mailing list I administer...

2005-01-05 15:07:59Z

This was sent to the "request" list, I am forwarding it to here in case anyone would know or connect with it.
==========================================
I recently discovered a letter written in february of
1942 from a gentleman named Fred Bluejacket, sent to
[i believe] his mother-Rose Anthony of Pekin, Illinois.
In this letter, he mentions his wife, Bette, her friend,
Buelah, and what I assume is his daughter, Patti. At the time this letter was written, He was working for the
"Chicago Bridge and Iron company", assigned to Hamilton, Bermuda. I am very interested in tracking any
relative, so that I might get this letter into their hands.
I feel that they would be very interested in it.
If you can help me, I would appreciate it very much.
Following is my name and address:
Helen Armentrout
13 Park Drive, North Pekin, Il. 61554
Ph. 1-309-382-3541
allan19432000@yahoo.com

Re: bluejacket

2004-12-30 15:07:22Z

Does anyone have any access to documentation on whether Bluejacket's 2nd wife Baby's name as being Clearwater? Any history on this?

Bluejacket

SRouse1937 — 2004-11-05 16:50:18Z

Hi, I am doing some extensive research on Bluejacket, in order to present it at a couple Genealogy Society meetings here in the Wheeling WV area in the Spring. I am a Swearingen descendant, but actually do believe the Bluejacket/Swearingen story to be fiction, other than fact after what all I have read. But I would really like to be able to get a pedigree on the Bluejacket family if at all possible. I am very interested in the family, where they originated, and where they are at the present time. Could you or anyone help me with this? Also would love to get in communication with descendants of the family.

Bluejacket

2004-10-21 00:28:08Z

As of today, I am listowner for the Bluejacket name. Any that are interested in subscribing to this list, here is the address..

BLUEJACKET-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains the word Subscribe in the subject line and the body of the email.
and nothing else. If they prefer digest mode, they should send the command instead to BLUEJACKET-D-request@rootsweb.com. (this is for a general listing of messages.

To unsubscribe,
they should send the command "unsubscribe" to BLUEJACKET-L-request@rootsweb.com
(if in mail mode) or BLUEJACKET-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.)
To switch from one mode to the other, they should unsubscribe from one
and then subscribe to the other. There is no "no mail" mode -- if they
want messages to stop, they should simply unsubscribe.

To post to both BLUEJACKET-L and BLUEJACKET-D, messages should be sent to
BLUEJACKET-L@rootsweb.com. Messages sent there will appear both places.

So, hope some may be interested.

Eliza Blackfeather Bluejacket and Willis Jay Bluejacket

PatShort99 — 2004-10-18 15:57:03Z

I am trying to find inf on Eliza Blackfeather Bluejacket and Willis Jay Bluejacket. My grandaughter needs the history and roll number to apply for a CDIB Card. She is Cherokee throught Eliza Blackfeather Bluejacket and Willis Jay Bluejacket. Her grandmother was a Waugh who married a Panter
Her father has a Card but need one for her.
How do we apply for this. She does not know which to apply
for Cherokee or Shawnee. Can Anyone help.
Thanks Pat Short

Re: Bluejacket

carlyle29 — 2004-06-07 11:13:21Z

Jim Bluejacket, what about him?
Rev Charles Bluejacket was an uncle of my great grandmother, Emma Bluejacket.

Re: Bluejacket

KMurphy66 — 2004-04-29 02:12:49Z

It looks like you and I are 3rd cousins. I can send more
information. You could look on the Gullett board here for
a little more info on the Gullett andcestry.

My great-grandfather was Henry Selby Gullett, Delilah's
brother. His son was Ralph Gullett, whose daughter was
Irma Gullett Murphy, my mother.

I would very much like to find out where exactly Delilah's
father, Andrew Gullett, lived. I know only that it was
somewhere near Bluejacket, OK.

Send me your email address and I'll see about sending more.

Thanks,

Kevin Murphy

Re: Bluejacket

2003-11-16 16:19:03Z

Nice to talk to you Kevin Murphy. I have not been able to find out much about my Gullett ancestors, so I would be very very interested in any information you have. My great grand mother was Delilah Gullett, her son Bertie Bluejacket was my grandfather and my mother Fannie Delilah Bluejacket even had her grandmothers middle name. My e-mail address is rburrup@utah.gov or my home phone number is 801-254-3310. It would be great to talk. Ron Burrup.

Re: any relation?

2003-11-16 02:21:42Z

Dear Diana Turner, I am your cousin. Your father William T. Husher was the brother of my Grandmother, Lucy Mae Husher. I met you in 1982 in Bluejacket Oklahoma. I think it would be great to talk to you. Can you e-mail me at rburrup@yahoo.com If you are interested I have some family geneology, but I don't know much about the Husher's except they came from Switzerland.

Re: Eliza Blackfeather Bluejacket and Willis Jay Bluejacket

2003-11-16 00:59:22Z

I have Dawes roll numbers for Eliza Blackfather and Willis Bluejacket and their children. My mother was a Bluejacket and we have accumulated some information about the family. Ron.

Re: Bluejacket

2003-11-15 20:48:48Z

To Ima Sutherland, your father George Bluejacket is my uncle. My mother was Fannie Delilah Bluejacket, also known as Ruth Katherine Carroll. Please e-mail me thanks Ron

Re: Bluejacket

2003-11-15 20:32:54Z

Silas Bluejacket and Delilah Gullett were my great grand parents. I am looking for information on them, or will share information with others. Thanks Ron

bluejacket

2003-08-28 01:56:11Z

I go along with Himshaw. I have traced back through the Reame line to the Honorable Jaques Baby Duperon to his son-in-lay Shawnee chief Bluejacket and his wife Claerwater Baby and down from there to the Leduc family. I have Reaume ancestry but not Bluejacket blood. The big problem is to trace Clearwater Baby. I have a feel for some of the descendents of Baby on Ontario, Canada, but have yet to solidify data on Clearwater.

Re: Bluejacket

vntrz — 2003-08-26 13:27:09Z

If you want "the real story," I suggest you read "Banks of
the Wabash" (Rev 1996), provide me your question, or contact
G. Carlyle Hinshaw ( blujac@swbell.net ) who is a descendant
of Chief Blue Jacket. Chuck Bingham ( wcbingham@home.
com ) can also provide you the e-mail address of the Shawnee
web site which offers informative data. Despite "the story,"
the "fact" is Marmaduke Van Swearingen did not become
Chief Blue Jacket and kill his brother, Charles. That is just
"hog wash." If you are seeking "the real story," the above
will help you. If you prefer "smoke," just believe "the story."

Re: Bluejacket myth

vntrz — 2003-08-26 13:27:09Z

Interesting you should say "the Swearingen family is upset
with the DNA findings" that refute "the story" that has been
circulating since Feb. 15, 1877. My DNA test effort was
initiated two years after my genealogical conclusions were
published in "Banks of the Wabash" (Rev. 1996). As you are
obviously aware, it was a Swearingen descendant who started
"the story" and some Native Americans found it to their
advantage to "believe" the tale. "Upset" as they may be, "the
*&%$#@ story" still circulates and the outside drama near
Xenia still portrays Blue Jacket as killing his brother, Charles.
This tarnishes the name of an officer killed in the service of our
country and is an abomination. Keep telling the truth! The
"upset" Swearingens will survive.

Indian guide

hawkins28 — 2003-08-14 01:58:01Z

I am looking for any one familuar with when George Bluejacket[Shawnee Chief] migrated from Ohio to Okla. & if the Indian Guide Monument by Pyramid Corners/ Centralia Okla was built by the Shawnee or another tribe, also why built.

Bluejacket

dianahusher — 2003-06-18 16:38:21Z

I haven't seen any of the Bluejackets for many years, and none of the names sound familiar, except Charles Bluejacket, which I saw on our family history tree. And, I do know one of my relatives was an Indian Cheif. He wasn't really Indian. He was kidnapped as a child and raised by them. Actually, he is the one I'm really interested in. Back in 1982, I think, we attended a big family reunion in Bluejacket, OK. I met a distant relative there, his last name was "Burrap" or something like that. He was from Utah. Anyway, he gave me a book about Cheif Bluejacket. But, my Uncle Bud(Husher) wanted to borrow it, and although I hated to, I couldn't say no. He passed away soon after, and I never got my book back! I only got to read the first page. I've been going nuts for years, trying to find another book. Just got a computer a few months ago, and the first thing I looked for was that book! If you happen to know what I'm talking about, and know how I can get another book, I would very much appreciate it. I dont even know the name of it. I need to get that man's name from my mom, and maybe find him on the internet somehow.Thanks for your time and info!

bluejacket

eeyoreandrobin — 2003-04-15 21:07:37Z

Re: Charles Bluejacket

laskadave — 2002-07-19 20:26:22Z

I am interested in any info about any Bingham that is related to Bluejacket. I have a Dora Darling Bingham b.10 Mar 1866 in IN. Have info that Chief Bluejacket had 2 granddaughters who married 2 Binghams.Can you shed any light?

Wm F and sister Helen

3maedel — 2002-03-17 05:46:36Z

I believe Helen Virginia Brewer of Coffeyville KS had a brother named William Francis Storch. They were both adopted, as far as I know. Helen is deceased. She was my mother-in-law. My wife Mary and our kids are interested in learning what we can about Helen's ancestors. Would very much appreciate contact with any Storches! We have some info, not much, but glad to exchange, of course. Thanks.

Bluejacket

Kevin_Murphy — 2002-02-26 05:23:59Z

Looking for descendants of Silas Bluejacket
and wife Delila Gullett. Silas was s/o
Rev. Charles Bluejacket. They lived in
Bluejacket OK.

Kevin Murphy

Re: Bluejacket

Kevin_Murphy — 2002-02-26 05:23:59Z

Thank you very much for all that information!

I'll try to send you what I have. I work 2 jobs, so I can't say
for sure when it will be.

Kevin

Bluejacket

Kevin_Murphy — 2002-02-26 05:23:59Z

Although I'm not positive which book you are
referring to, I have a book about Chief
Bluejacket. Someone photocopied it years ago and sent it to me. I bet it's the same one. Unfortunately, since I've moved in the past year, it's packed away in some box and I have no idea where it is.

In brief:

Marmaduke Van Swearingen was a white man kidnapped by the Shawnee in the late 1700's.
He joined them and took the name Bluejacket,
because he was wearing a blue jacket when he was captured. He became one of their chiefs.

He had a son, Jim Bluejacket. Jim had a son,
Rev. Charles Bluejacket, founder of the town in OK. Charles had a son named Silas, who married Delilah Gullett. Delilah's brother
was Henry Gullett, whose son was Ralph Gullett, whose daughter was Irma (Gullett)
Murphy, whose son is Kevin Murphy (me).

Kevin

Charles Bluejacket

Kevin_Murphy — 2002-02-26 05:23:59Z