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John Wirt Borland

bor340m — 2012-06-02 17:01:15Z

I am looking for any information about John W Borland, he was born in the District of Columbia April 28, 1899 of John Edgar and Catherine Norbeck Borland. He was married to Clara Tesh in 12/11/1919. His son John Edgar was born 12/16/1920. He was involved with the Royal Arch Masons and died in Salem Ohio.

Re: Robert James Borland, Sarah Gant (Borland), Gladys Anne Borland

chelsea_alexander1 — 2012-05-23 07:19:10Z

Sorry, my question was how does William James Borland relate to the others.

Robert James Borland, Sarah Gant (Borland), Gladys Anne Borland

chelsea_alexander1 — 2012-05-23 07:18:05Z

Hi

I recently recieved two pictures from my grandmother.

The first is a picture of three women and on the back they are named "Sarah Jant nee Borland", "Gladys Borland" and "Anne Jant" (- but it looks like they may have written Gant first).

The second photo has a lot of information on the back and reads
"Uncle Bob Robert James Borland, Sarah Gant (Borland) married 8th April 1890. Gladys Annie Borland born 1896 May 25 married Horace Victor Gibbs in 1919, married Ivan Thomas Bennington 1976 he died 1988 Gladys died 1995 aged 99, Evelyn Nellie Borland born June 18 1900 married Albert (Toby) Ashby (? hard to tell if Ashby, possibly Ashley).

Now...my connection. The only fact that I know for 100% is that I am related to William James Borland who was born about 1867 in Londonderry, Ireland, and he married Hannah Riley and Kathleen Ryan.

Help will be appreciated

From Chelsea.

Re: BORLAND'S from County Antrim

jimusmc551 — 2012-05-07 04:14:04Z

I have traced my ancestors (The Borlands) back to Scotland in 1670..There are quite a few John Borlands from that time period. If you want, I will invite you to the Borland Family tree site on my heritage.com and you can see for yourself and perhaps find a link. E-mail me at jimusmc55@hotmail.com for a quicker response.

Re: BORLAND'S from County Antrim

borlankc — 2012-05-04 00:49:29Z

You say you have the last will of the father of the John Boreland who came in 1769. Is this the same John Boreland who married Rachel Moore? My father has been doing a lot of research and hasn't been able to go further back than John Boreland who married Rachel Moore.

If this is the one you are talking about, you say his father was also John Boreland? I spell both with e's because that is how my father has it spelled. If so, do you know anything about John Sr's history? According to my father's research, someone perhaps before this John came from Scotland, but he hasn't been able to do hardly any research regarding this. One of the biggest problems is that he has never been able to visit Ireland/Scotland and do research there. If you have ANY information at all, please please get back to me!!

Re: Borland / Stirling

tradergrizz — 2012-05-03 13:01:52Z

Mairead,

I don't have much other information. I have a christening list for Ballymoney for the years around the time James was born, his death notice (where it mentions he didn't know the name of his mother), a biography for him (I think) and various census reports that he's on. Oh and I have a marriage record for him. I forget what he says hi father's name is... I'll have to go look it up.
Cindy
tradergrizz@lycos.com

Re: Borland / Stirling

1mairead — 2012-05-02 11:39:18Z

Cindy,
Your reply just came up on my message board notices. There were three or four William Borlands in different towns in Antrim and no clues to relationship.
What I understand from your email is William and Ann Borland had a son named John who may be the brother of a sister Ann who married John Graham. John Borland raised his sister's son James.

Do you have any dates for reference? My interest is for
William Borland
Residence: 1862 - Drumreagh, Ballymoney, Antrim, Ireland
Daughter Ann married John Graham in Drumreagh Presby Church in Antrim in 1854.
The quest for information continues!
Regards,
Mairead

Re: Borland

P_E_BORLAND — 2012-04-29 14:53:24Z

Hello Yvonne - what name did Frederick Borland live under and what was his name at death and where ?

Regards

Patricia E (Borland)Martin

Re: The Scottish origin

Robert_Borland — 2012-04-27 14:55:30Z

Hello James,

I have only just noticed your post of September 2000. You probably misunderstood what you were told by the doctor from Perth. It is almost certain that he was not referring to Tanny Hill. I am sure he meant Robert Tannahill, a close friend of Alexander Borland. I thought Tannahill was still a bachelor when he committed suicide. There is some information on

http://www.grianpress.com/Tannahill/TANNAHILL'S%20MEMORY%201...

Re: Borland

yvonneborland — 2012-04-27 14:16:39Z

hello i myself is looking to know about Frederick Borland born 1900 died 1968.
we are to believe that Frederick was brought up by the borland family and his name wouldnt be Borland
so im looking to know if any 1 can tell me any more
many thanks

Re: Borland in Scotland and the USA

Robert_Borland — 2012-04-09 17:26:04Z

I couldn't help noticing the reference to Kincardine Castle. I do not have the details to hand, but I do recall that the owners of Kincardine Castle at one time, were descended from Thomas Boreland who married Christian Simson sometime before 1794. They had 11 children in Kilmarnock. One of their sons, Thomas Boreland was a procurator fiscal. He married Ann Bruce Strachan in 1826 in Kilmarnock.

Re: Borland in Scotland and the USA

alastairlindsay2005 — 2012-04-09 04:42:52Z

Was this lady s name Nancy Borland whom I think was/is married to a Brennan and lived in Woodway Park .Edmonds ,Washington,USA in the 1940s to 1950 s.If this is the case she and her husband took my Mom, And DAD TO THE USA with them in or around 1947 as they worked for them at Kincardine Castle ,Auchterarder,Perthshire.I am at the moment in the USA ON vacation visiting my sister whom I havent seen in 50yrs.My Mom and DAD WERE Mr&Mrs Gaynor (MARY & LEO PATRICK.It would be great to have feed back.
Thanking You In Anticipation
Patricia(Trish) Lindsay

Re: borland

SharonH22 — 2012-03-28 23:11:27Z

The Borland name came from Scotland where threy lived near the English border thus BORDERLANDS.
I understand the Borlands settled in Ireland after the Normans conquered Ireland in about 1180. Sharon H

Re: David Borland

VeronicaSingleton58 — 2012-02-14 00:13:08Z

David Owings

You stated that your BORLAND line setteled in Westmoreland Co PA.. Do you have an approximate date of when?

I am working on a SAMUEL BORLAND, Married to first SARAH ANDERSON (had two sons James, John and one daughter Elizabeth who died at the same time of her mother in 1821.

SAMUEL then married CATHERINE ??, and had 5 children, David, Sarah, Lewis, Robert and Mary. I show them in Westmoreland until 1850, where I pick them up in the Allegheny census.

Re: David Borland

Robert_Borland — 2012-02-09 18:39:48Z

If any additional information survives in the Glasgow University Archives, then I am delighted that you are in an excellent position to obtain it. One would hope that David’s date of birth would survive which would be sufficient to confirm his parentage.

In modern times Universities seem to retain a great deal of information. Last year the Rector of Imperial College sent me a card which contained a photograph of 3 Physics students working on a project in about 1956. I did not recognise any of the students, but I did recognise the tie worn by one of them. My sister assured me that it was me.

Re: David Borland

gillianborland1 — 2012-02-07 18:31:15Z

It didn't even occur to me that David might have a degree - that's really interesting. I may go and have a word with the University archive service and see if they can find any further information - I actually work at Glasgow University, so it shouldn't be too inconvenient to search!

I suppose the University description of him as an only son would depend on whatever description they were given; if he indeed is the son of the family you think, perhaps his brother had died (especially if he was in his 30s by that time) or was disowned for some reason...?

Re: David Borland

Robert_Borland — 2012-02-07 18:14:50Z

My Latin has now become a litle rusty, but when I read the document a few years ago, it was sufficient for me to realise that the amount of property involved was extensive.

David's matriculation album (Glasgow) was dated 1788. He was described as "filius unicus" of David Borland in Gorbals. I am often puzzled by the adjective "unicus" which I translate as "only", because it sometimes seems to be used to describe a man who did have brothers. I am not 100% sure, but I strongly suspect that he was the David who was c. 3 Nov 1756 in Govan, son of David Borland & Anna Wallace who m. in 1754. Their 1st son was James c. 13 Apr 1755 Govan. That suggests that the father of that David was named James, because of Scottish naming tradition.

Re: David Borland

gillianborland1 — 2012-02-07 14:38:13Z

Thanks for that - it's unlikely my Latin would be up to it!

I've just today managed to confirm my link back to David Borland and Margaret Smith by digging out the relevant OPRs, and it appears this David was a teacher (the Gorbals OPRs at this time all seem to mention occupation). Given that this is the only Borland in my tree with an occupation remotely resembling a profession, the inheritance seems more likely. I'll have to try to find out more about it.

Re: David Borland

Robert_Borland — 2012-02-02 23:28:38Z

I got it from what was the Scottish Record Office, which is now the National Archives of Scotland. The key information would be the references 10th Dec 1828 & 1829 Feb 25/42. You would also need to specify that it is for Ann, David, James & Peter Borland served co-heirs to Alexander Campbell. My copy is headed C22/130. It is all in Latin. There would not necessarily be anything in the papers about it.

Re: David Borland

gillianborland1 — 2012-02-02 23:07:13Z

The information I have for Robert and Janet's family is as follows:

David b. abt 1841 (presumably died before 1845)
David b. abt 1845
Robert b. abt 1851
Elizabeth b. 1/8/1852
Janet b. 26/2/1855
James b. 19/10/1857
Mary b. 6/2/1860
Robert b. 1/6/1861

Most of the early data I have is from census returns, so any children that were born and died between censuses wouldn't be found. I wasn't aware of George; he isn't included in the 1851 census, so I assume he must have died before then.

I'm planning to do some more thorough searching of the OPRs soon for people in this branch of my family, so I can let you know if I find anything else.

Re: David Borland

gillianborland1 — 2012-02-02 22:57:51Z

That's very interesting indeed, thanks for the information.

If my direct ancestors did get their hands on lots of money, there's no sign of it at all - from the point that I can find any of them in the census, they all have very working class jobs of types to be expected in a highly industrial area. It's intriguing. Could you let me know where you got the copy of the document, and I'll try to get hold of it myself? I'll also have a try to find anything about it in some of the online newspaper archives that have been made available recently - whether real or a fraud, an inheritance of that amount would most likely have been reported in the papers.

I currently only have very basic information for these new member of my family tree; perhaps when I've got hold of a more complete set of records about them, things may become a bit clearer.

As for why the Gorbals degenerated, I think it was probably just the usual story of a small area which was rapidly taken over by the events of the industrial revolution: lots of industry employing lots of poorly-paid people who couldn't afford decent accommodation.

Re: David Borland

Robert_Borland — 2012-02-02 22:48:03Z

I did have some information on the Robert Borland who m. Janet Findlay (or Finlay), but until you told me, I had not connected him to David.

What I have is the following. Please let me know if you can put names to some of them.

Robert Borland, Cloth Lapper m. Janet Finlay 15 Mar 1841 Gorbals.
1 son born before 1855 Living 1855.
1 dau born before 1855 Living 1855
4 sons born before 1855, but deceased
1 dau born before 1855, but deceased
George b. 15 Feb 1849 Glasgow
Robert b. 13 Aug 1850 Glasgow
Elizabeth b. 1 Aug 1852 Glasgow
Janet b. 26 Feb 1855 at 312 High Str. Glasgow. She was described as 8th child.
Presumably either George or Robert had died by 1855.

Re: David Borland

Robert_Borland — 2012-02-02 21:37:06Z

Yes, I did work it out once, and I am now looking at my notes to try to reconstruct what happened.

I think it most likely that Alexander Campbell was the son of Peter Campbell who m. Elizabeth Montgomery 6 July 1737 Govan.

Alexander was c. 18 Mar 1739, Govan. A sister Elizabeth was c. 1746 Govan. She must have died because another sister Elizabeth was c. 1748 Govan. Apparently Alexander had no children of his own. His sister Elizabeth m. James Smith, Gunsmith in the Gorbals 28 Jan 1766. They had a daughter Janet Smith, c. 30 May 1773, Gorbals & a sister Margaret Smith, c. 29 Sep 1771, Gorbals, who m. David Borland Jan 1790 Gorbals & Rutherglen. They had 4 children, David, Anna, James & Peter. These are the children who inherited a vast amount of property from Alexander.

In the indexes to the Services of Heirs they are listed as follows:

Boreland – Ann In Edinburgh to Alexander Campbell, Chandler, Gorbals of Glasgow – Co-heir of Provision General – 10th Dec 1828 1829 Feb 25/42. [I think this last date is probably the date registered]
Boreland – David Turner in Gorbals of Glasgow, to Alexander [as above]
Boreland – James Canada, Soldier, 42nd Reg., to Alexander .. [as above]
Boreland – Peter, Canada, Soldier 42nd Regiment to Alexander .. [as above]

I did get a copy of this document. It is a very large document because of the massive amount of property that they inherited. They would have been, not just wealthy, nor very wealthy, but very very wealthy.

It was not obvious subsequently that they did become very very wealthy, so I must admit that I do suspect a major fraud.

David Borland, one of the co-heirs m. Elizabeth McLean 13 May 1814 Gorbals.

Elizabeth McLean was born about 1790. She was the daughter of Richard McLean, Hand loom weaver & Elizabeth Allan.

They had 9 children including Robert c. 5 July 1818, who must have died and a 2nd Robert c. 27 June 1819 Gorbals. He must be the Robert who m. Janet Findlay.

The Gorbals was at one time one of the most desirable parts of Glasgow. I don’t know why it degenerated into a slum area.

Re: David Borland

gillianborland1 — 2012-02-02 19:39:20Z

After the long delay in replying to this, I hope you're still around on the message board!

I've recently gone back to this side of my tree and working on a number of other (much easier!) lines, and have had a bit of a breakthrough. I've discovered that my David BORLAND is definitely the son of Robert BORLAND and Janet FINDLAY, and through Poor Relief records that Robert is the son of David BORLAND (born abt 1791) and Elizabeth McLEAN (not 100% sure of birth yet). It would appear that this David may be the child of another David BORLAND and Margaret SMITH (m. 1790).

However, I find it difficult to imagine my Borlands ever having had access to much wealth, given the generally awful parts of Glasgow they lived in - though I suppose even the Gorbals must have had some nicer areas before it became completely swallowed up by Glasgow!

Sharon Borland

suzque73 — 2012-01-01 01:52:44Z

Searching for Sharon Borland, born 1937 and attended Junior and Senior High Schools in Lincoln, NE USA. Please email me if you have any info. suzque73@yahoo.com

Alexander Borland - b.11 Feb 1895 - Industry, Beaver Co., PA

HenrySDillon — 2011-11-19 04:50:32Z

Alexander Borland is listed on the 1938 death index for Martha Laura (Mattie) Boone as her husband. Their home was in Glendale, Marshall Co., WV. Mattie Boone Borland is buried in the Greenlawn Cemetery, Moundsville, WV. Looking for information regarding this Alexander Borland.

Henry S. Dillon
hsdlsd@earthlink.net
DILLON FAMILY GENEALOGY

Margaret Borland - Tyrone Ireland

TLHughesBoehm — 2011-10-12 22:08:28Z

I am looking for information on Margaret Borland c 1821 - daughter of Robert Borland - born in County Tyrone Ireland. She married Thomas McKnight (b c 1825) She settled in Canada - had one son (at least) Charles McKnight born in Quebec. Charles married a Matilda Kernett. I am looking for each of these families coming from Ireland/England to Canada and then immigrating to Michigan.

Re: John H Borland Family from Canada

lisageeez42 — 2011-08-28 04:34:57Z

hello I am trying get a copy of "Early Settlement and Pioneers of Darlington Township, Ontario Canada"that you have in your tree. Could you email it to me please -lisageeez@gmail.com
thank you!
lisa sellers gabourie

Re: Ann Borland, N. Ireland

1mairead — 2011-07-22 16:08:09Z

Bride: Ann Borland of Drumreagh
Groom: John Graham, a weaver Drumreagh
Bride father: William a weaver
Father Groom: Alexander a weaver
Witnesses: Joseph Borland and James Borland
Minister: Rev. T. Beare
Date of marriage: 5 August 1854
Place: Drumreagh Presbyterian Church, Ballymoney Parish
I am trying to place the Borlands back in time and try to
locates names of children from the Ann/John marriage. It is as if the Borlands appeared suddenly and disappeared just as
suddenly.
A more recent James was found in another county, but a connection has not been found.
Any and all help is appreciated.
eggardsd
Mairead

Re: John H Borland Family from Canada

bonny20 — 2011-05-11 21:31:10Z

A William Borland Sr and William Borland Jr both lived in Hamilton Twp, Northumberland County, Ontario. I am not related to the Borland family . Many of these settlers in the area were from the States but not everyone. Some also returned to the United States such as a Gaius Dean. Google Hamilton Twp records. I am speaking about early records of 1800 on.

Borland / Stirling

tradergrizz — 2011-04-30 12:58:56Z

Sounds like we might be related. My husband's Robinson family intermarried with Stirlings and Borlands.

His Borland relation is great great aunt Mary Elisabeth Robinson Caufield Borland from Ballymoney, Antrim IRE. Mary Elisabeth's second husband was John Borland, whose parents were William and Ann. Mary and John raised his sister's son, James and her brother's son, George H. They also had children of their own: William, Margaret, Rueben and a 4th child whose name I can't recall.

I have a Robinson Family history done by Robert Stirling in 1905. He is very detailed about his generation and several following him, but is sketchy going backwards.
Cindy R.

Re: Ann Borland, N. Ireland

SharonH22 — 2011-04-29 22:47:49Z

I'm the great-great-great granddaughter of Thomas Borland's son James Borland and wife, Mary Stirling and grandson John and his wife Margaret Ann Curry. Anyone interested?
I don't have an Ann Borland marrying a Graham in that year. There are a number of William Borlands who could be her father. Can you come up with the other brother? Sharon H

Re: Ann Borland, N. Ireland

1mairead — 2011-04-25 20:40:41Z

I am searching for information regarding Ann Borland who married John Graham about 1854 in N. Ireland. Witnesses at the wedding are two brothers Joseph and cannot remember the other brother. Father is listed as William. The marriage was in a Presbyterian Church near the Bann River.

Regards,
1Mairead

Re: John Borland married to Catherine Montgomery of Frederick County, Maryland

Borland175 — 2011-04-12 20:09:13Z

I'm interested in the family tree back to Ireland and Scotland of this John Borland.
I'm also interested in any information on John and Catherine's children, particularly their son James Borland, who MAY be my GGGG grandfather.

My connection is my GGG grandfather Thomas Borland (1811-1859)
he married Elizabeth Barr.
He was buried in Tarentum, PA
His father has been named "James Borland" in print.
I believe our James Borland may be the one listed as the son of John and Cathrine, but I haven't been able to prove any connections to this James, or any other for that matter...

Ken Borland
ken_borland@hotmail.com

Re: Borland Pen State

Robert_Borland — 2011-03-23 20:04:55Z

It is not too difficult tracing ancestors in Scotland, but it is much more difficult tracing ancestors in Ireland, so any information about links with Ireland is always very welcome.

Are you related in any way to the Alexander Borland who married Rose Laurie in Barony in 1824? I think he may have come from Antrim.

Borland Pen State

daborland — 2011-03-23 18:02:13Z

Has any of you tried looking to Scotland or Ireland, My parents are from Greenock, Scotland and I have been able to trace our lineage to Ireland in 1816.

Re: Three Borlands from Kilmarnock / Fenwick Ayrshire

jockincanada — 2011-03-14 20:22:54Z

Hi my father Archie was born in Kilmarnock in 1937 now staying in Newmilns his father also Archie also was killed in world war 2 in 1944. He had two brothers willam and jimmy.My Father has a lot of his famly tree done over the years he could help if you are still looking.

John

BORLAND Dennis A - Vietnam Wall section 36W - our honor and thanks to those who put their lives on the line for us

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2010-11-28 21:15:17Z

BORLAND Dennis A - Vietnam Wall section 36W - our honor and thanks to those who put their lives on the line for us

Honor our Veterans. This is one of many photographs of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Parker Co, TX. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 218,953 photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Parker), cemetery(Vietnam) and Surname.

If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is not my family.

Jane Shannon m. John Hutchinson Borland, Venango, PA

shannonrl — 2010-10-10 16:50:58Z

I've seen some info on Jane Shannon who married John Hutchinson Borland in family trees on this site, and I am wondering if anyone has solid documentation for the date they married and when they died, from something like a family Bible, etc.

Jane Shannon was born April 30, 1811, per my family information. Looking for documentation for the remaining dates.

Best,
Rebecca Shannon

Re: John H Borland Family from Canada

Robert_Borland — 2010-10-07 21:53:23Z

If William was born in Scotland (instead of Ireland)then he might be the William Borland c. 19 March 1769 in Loudoun. His parents were John Borland & Margaret Wilson who married 1742 in Kilmarnock & Fenwick (with spelling variations Bordlan & Bordland). However, I have no further information on this William.

Re: borland

LindaLatimerClayton — 2010-09-19 18:06:00Z

Just saw your Borland information. I too am from the same John Borland line from County Antrim, Ireland. John was first married to Ann Gutherie and had 4 children. His last son, Andrew Borland is my line. He went to Pa & married Mary Evans.
Your line is thru his second marriage to Rachel Moore. They had 9 children. I do not have who Samuel married in my files.
Maybe we could compare information on our Borlands.
You can email me at j_lclayton@verizon.net.
Thanks, Linda Clayton---my mother was a Borland

Re: John H Borland Family from Canada

TerryGlasco — 2010-09-14 23:33:31Z

I am about to accept a bid, at a price of $345 (!) for an ancestry.com expert to trace our William Borland 1769-1824, father of Captain John Borland 1794-1826 and grandfather of John H, 1814-1891. William was probably born in Ireland?

Re: BORLAND

Robert_Borland — 2010-09-10 15:33:00Z

It has been claimed that the William Borland who emigrated to Orange County, New York with 2 brothers John and Andrew, was born the 15th October 1703, as son of Thomas Borland and Janet Jackson. This claim has often been repeated by others and there is a danger that people might come to believe it to be true. However unless there was a mistake in the Hamilton register it is not true. William, son of Thomas, was born on the 5th March and c. the 23rd March 1704 in Hamilton. Furthermore, Thomas was not known to have had a son, Andrew.
My ancestors, William Bordland and Margaret Brown, had a son William born in 1703 in Loudoun (but not the 15th October). Their sons also included John and Andrew. These 3 can be accounted for, and were not the ones who emigrated. I am not aware of any other William Borland born in Scotland in 1703. My guess is that the William who emigrated was born in Northern Ireland – John, Andrew and William being typical Borland names there. Yes, further back in time these Borlands may well have had their origins in Hamilton.

Re: BORLAND

jimusmc551 — 2010-09-06 04:38:29Z

Yeah...He's my great-great-great-great-great Grandfather too....Did you know he was married to sisters? Tabitha and Rebecca? Tell me who you are and how I can see your family tree. You are welcome to view mine as well.

Jim Borland
jimusmc55@cfl.rr.com

Re: BORLAND

soswift6 — 2010-09-06 03:37:47Z

William Borland was my 5th gr-grandfather and Tabitha, his 2nd wife, was my 5th gr-grandmother. I love the part in his will that says: " I leave to my wife Tabitha the use of one-third of my farm where I live during her life; Also two cows, six sheep, a good riding horse, with side saddle and bridle, one bed, with proper furniture, two pots, six chairs, a pair of tongs and fire shovel, etc., and as much room and privilege in my dwelling house as may be needful for her use, and a privilege in my barn. And if at any time my wife shall choose to dwell by herself, I do order my three sons to repair the small stone house standing near my present dwelling house in a comfortable and decent manner for her to dwell in." Times have certainly changed, thank goodness!

Re: Joseph Earl Borland

Jenny59Borland — 2010-09-05 23:43:01Z

thanks for the information - it's fascinating. i'm descended from joseph earl and have been stumped trying to find his parents.

Re: Joseph Earl Borland

Jenny59Borland — 2010-09-05 23:31:13Z

I have his birth date as 7/12/1832. Didn't know his middle name tho, thanks. how are you related? he was my great-great-grandfather - his son william frank was father to william taylor who was father to william donald - my father.

Re: BORLAND

jimusmc551 — 2010-09-04 04:00:50Z

Born in Hamilton Parish, Lanarkshire Scotland Oct 15 1703. He was married twice to sisters Rebecca and Tabitha McNeil and raised 11 children. He left quite an interesting will.

Re: Stanley BORLAND

patborland — 2010-08-09 20:43:06Z

I have no information on the John Borland & his family that you mention, other than Isabella's brother John but then again the name does run through the family. As I said previously her death certificate states her surname as Borland. Do you have any reason to believe that the Isabella living with John Borland is my Isabella.

If you would like acces to my tree on Ancestry send me your email & I'll send you an invite

Take care
xxx

Re: Stanley BORLAND

Robert_Borland — 2010-08-09 15:52:24Z

Good also to hear from you again. I was actively interested in the Ormskirk area whilst trying to help my late friend Geoff Hayes with his research. Sadly he died with MND - a dreadful disease.

Yes, perhaps Isabella didn't actually marry, but in the 1911 Census where she is living with John Borland, she stated that she had been married 7 years, and I just assumed that to be true. Their Children were all recorded as born in Cheshire, Stalybridge. However they all seem to have been registered in Ashton Under Lyne. They were:

John 1905 June Qtr
Janet 1907 Sep Qtr
James Andrew 1910 June Qtr

Do you not have any of these birth certificates?

I wonder who John Borland was and could his family provide a clue about who was looking after Stanley at that time? Somebody must have been looking after him.