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Re: Boudreau Canada to Michigan

dgfim22 — 2009-11-06 01:32:55Z

William BOUDREAU s/o William & Delia/Delphine Richway
Carrie BONIN d/o Louis & Minnie Galey (sic)
m Au Sable, MI 29 Feb 1892

See my earlier message at end of this thread for connection in Belleville, ON.

Best regards, Dennis

Re: Boudreau Canada to Michigan (correction)

nixpa — 2009-10-22 15:02:05Z

Josephine's sister was Christine Boudreau.

Jeremiah Lessard's parents were Oliver Lessard & Julia Boudreau. They were probably cousins or second cousins.

Re: Boudreau Canada to Michigan

nixpa — 2009-10-22 14:58:08Z

Josephine Boudreau was my great-grandmother. Her parents were James Boudreau and Delia Richway. Delia's mother was named Christina Rivors (Rivers?). Josephine married my great-grandfather on August 8, 1892.

Josephine's sister, Julia Boudreau, married Jeremiah Lessard on August 22, 1892.

Some of this information is available here:
http://www.alpenalibrary.org/special/genealogy/Records/Recor...

Re: Jean Boudreau & Pelagie Boudreau - wall

dgfim22 — 2009-09-18 20:03:15Z

Oops. The witnesses reported are really Celina's godparents at her baptism!

The witnesses to her marriage were: Timothee Maillet & Marie Boudreau

Sorry,
Dennis

Re: Jean Boudreau & Pelagie Boudreau - wall

dgfim22 — 2009-09-18 19:55:55Z

Paul,

Did you get this message? Dennis

According to my good friend Hector Boudreau in Moncton:

Jean-Louis VAUTOUR s/o Simeon & Nathalie Babineau
Celine-Basilice BOUDREAU d/o Jean & Rosalie Boudreau
m Moncton, NB [St-Bernard Ch.] 2 Jun 1902
witnesses: Tomas Bourk & Genevieve Boudreau

This info from the Marriage Cards at the Centre d'études acadiennes (Univ of Moncton). So my possible guess was absolutely correct!

Best regards, Dennis

Re: Jean Boudreau & Pelagie Boudreau - wall

dgfim22 — 2009-09-14 04:24:10Z

Paul,

Could she be:

Celine-Basilisse BOUDREAU, born Barachois, NB 2 Jan 1869

Parents: >>> [Mother was Rosalie instead of Pelagie!]

Jean BOUDREAU (Pierre & Henriette Gautreau)
Rosalie BOUDREAU (Pierre & Henriette Babineau)
m Barachois, NB 9 May 1860

Dennis Boudreau

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

MaryBoudreau51 — 2009-09-13 22:39:15Z

Lou Boudreau, was my father's 3rd cousin according to my father and their great grandfather were brothers. When I was just a young girl Lou Boudreau visited my father,in a small Kansas that we were living in and also when we lived in Illinois, they also met. That may not be proof enough for the Boudreau researchers, but it is proof enough for my family.

We found a story about three of the Boudreau brothers: Frederick living in Missouri; Louis,living near Chicago and Charles living in Nebraska. The brothers would meet once a year at Frederick's farm in Monticello, Missouri. We believe that Alphonse's middle name, or first name was Charles, as he named one of his sons Charles. And we now have his wife's Cecile (Allain) Boudreau's Emerson, Nebraska ob (d. May 7,1902), which names Lizzie (Elizabeth Kerr)Boudreau of Monteicello, Mo. (wife of Frederick Boudreau). So now, we have proof that Frederick and Alphonse were brothers in black and white, besides their baptismal records that verifies that they were brothers. So, the family believes this could be a true story about the brothers meeting once a year at Frederick's.

We descend from Louis Michel Boudreau and Marie Josephte Naud/Nault through their son Alphonse. We have Alphonse's baptismal record, he was born 8 Nov 1823, Monreal, Parish of Notre Dame, Quebec, Canada. We believe that Lou Boudreau, the Cleveland Indian, baseball Hall of Famer (played for other teams, also), could have been descended from Louis Boudreau's son Louis, however, we have no documentation at this time. Hopefully, some day we find it.

Jean Boudreau & Pelagie Boudreau - wall

legerpj — 2009-09-13 17:38:49Z

I hit a wall when I tried to help my girlfriend with a Boudreau family. I have the following:

Celina Boudreau married Jean Louis Vautour 02 June 1902. Celina's parents were Jean Boudreau and Pelagie Boudreau according to a record I found in the Centre Acadien. Unfortunately I had to go before I got to look too carefully for this family and haven't been able to return to Moncton since. This family is likely from the Barachois area and possibly married between 1870 and 1880. (Since I have the records for the dates prior to this.)

Does anyone have any information on this family. Likely once I have their families I will be into the existing records I have already.

Paul Leger

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

dgfim22 — 2009-09-13 11:58:11Z

There are some corrections on the kids:

Hermine was not born in 1834 (that's before her parents marriage!) She was born in 1843!

Your Moise is the oldest of the family! (b L'Acadie in 1839)

then, the next bunch all born Napierville, QC
Hermine (1843), Rosalie (1845), Elise (1847) and Josephine (1849)

then the rest, all born in Beaverville,, IL
Malvina (1850), Etienne (1852) and Arthur (ca 1854-55)

Dennis

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

dgfim22 — 2009-09-13 11:47:44Z

Hi,

Your Nelson and Rose are really Narcisse Boudreau and Rose Clouatre of L'Acadie, QC (a totally other branch of Boudreaus from that of Lou Boudreau), some of whose children settled in Kankakee. Here's the family group:

1. Narcisse Boudreau (Étienne Boudreau5, Étienne Boudrot4, Anselme Boudrot3, Michel Boudrot2, Michel (*) Boudrot1) was born 10 DEC 1815 in L'Acadie, Québec. He married Rose Clouâtre 16 OCT 1838 in L'Acadie,Québec, daughter of Jean-Baptiste Clouâtre and Phoébée Comeau. She was born 22 SEP 1819 in L'Acadie, Québec, and died 13 FEB 1911 in Beaverville, Illinois.

Children of Narcisse Boudreau and Rose Clouâtre are:
2 i. Hermine Boudreau was born 9 NOV 1834 in L'Acadie, Québec.
3 ii. Moïse Boudreau was born 1 SEP 1837 in L'Acadie, Québec.
4 iii. Rosalie Boudreau was born 15 OCT 1845, and died 22 JUN 1933 in Little Falls, Minnesota. She married Delphis Lafond 1865, son of Isaac Lafond and Olive Canac-Marquis. He was born 14 MAY 1839, and died 6 APR 1912 in Little Falls, Minnesota.
5 iv. Étienne Boudreau was born 1845.
6 v. Élisabeth Boudreau was born 9 MAY 1847 in L'Acadie, Québec.
7 vi. Melvina Boudreau was born 1 JUL 1850 in Bourbonnais, Illinois.

Lou's branch is that of the line of Mary's from Deschambault, QC but the connection is yet to be made definitively to that branch. Dennis

Ora Lee Wall

marylgrace — 2009-09-12 17:30:18Z

I am looking for information/ancestors of my paternal g grandmother, Ora Lee Reid, married to Jesse/Jessie Lee Wall Sr from Mississippi. They married in MS and later moved to the Detroit area where he worked in the auto industry. They had 8 children: Jesse Lee Jr, Patricia. Robert, Jerry, Walter, Louise, Rosemary, and Kathleen.

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

marylgrace — 2009-09-12 15:31:13Z

My great uncle, who was a dentist, was indeed named Gernon Cleophas Boudreau. I have copies of pages from the family bible. Gernon was my g grandmother's maiden name.
I used to go as a young child with my grandmother to Beaverville and suprisingly a number of the stories stuck. I also have paper's from my great aunt Haydee Urseline Boudreau b.1883-d.1986, a physician -(amazing for this time period). She states that Moses Boudreu, son of Nelson and Rose came with the family to Aurora IL as farmers. They worked on rented land for a time then moved south to Kankakee and on to Beaverville where he farmed and later went into the mercantile business.
I am very curious as to where the ball player, Lou Boudreau, ties into the Boudreau family tree. Moise/Moses my aunt says was one of eight children and father of 13 - with my g grandfather being the eldest.

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

farplaces — 2009-09-12 10:00:30Z

Hi Mary...

As Dennis says so often, "if a Boudreau with Canada footpaths, we are all cousins"...and, so right he is...lol

I met Lou sr, when I was just knee high to a grasshopper in the Boston area, along with several others of the alltime greats...

When doing some cultural searches of early American transients I had found Boudreau connections in Beaverville thru St Mary's. There was not much to be attracted to in Beaverville but for trapping beaver at Beaver Lake. Methinks that if not for St Mary's Parish, there would be no Beaverville at all and I am not even sure if Beaver Lake still exists. I have been to Beaverville and was surprised to find my back yard is even bigger than Beavervile...lol It does appear that most all of the Boudrot/Boudreau lineage that migrated West from New France (Canada) were trappers, traders or missionaries and they did extend from ocean to ocean. Then came the railroad and all hell broke loose...! There also was a BOudreau saturation in the Kankakee and Mommence area as well. Many of those came from Wisconsin, the Kenosha area and were driven southward by the large number of Germans that came to populate and literally rule Kenosha when the American industrial boom began. Even today Kenosha is considered a German town (city)...

My dad's name was Joseph Cleophas of Petit Rocher and my eldest brother is named Cleophas Wilfred Of Florida. Cleophas is not considered as one of the most popular names in our lineage, but there can be found a few...

I thought your g-uncle Gernon was named Germain...

Ray...

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

marylgrace — 2009-09-12 04:44:11Z

While attending the University of Illinois Lou Boudreau visited my great uncle, Gernon Boudreau who was living in Champaign, IL at the time. I was told that they were cousins. My g uncle's father, my g grandfather, N.C. (Cleophas/Narcisse Cleophas)Boudreau was from Beaverville, IL. His father was Moise/Moses/Moyse Boudreau who is buried in Beaverville. He had come through the Bourbonnais/Kankakee, IL area from Canada. Lou also talked with one of my second cousins who said that he had remembered coming to Beaverville for the parish sponsored "homecomings."

Re: Boudreau, Marion, Franker

alyska1 — 2009-09-12 04:43:21Z

I'm a descendant of Milodell and her first husband Hubert Gelino.

My records include the following Census records:

* Franker/Francoeur:
* Eli Franker - 1870, 1880, 1900, 1910, 1920
* Meddy Paul Franker - 1900, 1910, 1930
* Remi Franker (br of Eli, 2nd husb of Melodell) -
1900, 1920

* Delibac
* some Delibac families - 1860 pt1 pt2

* Gelino
* Adlor Gelino (Child of Melodie and Hubert) - 1930
* Arthur Gelino (Child of Melodie and Hubert) - 1930
* Emma Mary (Gelino) Franker- 1900
* George Gelino (Hubert's brother) - 1900, 1910,
1920, 1930
* Peter/Ann Gelineau (Hubert's parents) - 1870, 1880
pt1 pt2

* Beaudry/Boudreau/Bodric
* Marie (Boudreau) Gelino, Franker - 1870, 1900

...as well as birth certificates for Hubert and Milodell's first two children, Edward, female child Gelino (1879, 1880)

I have a couple of family letters that were passed along to me by Vicki Buettner that have more information as well, and have a pretty good understanding of Milodell's (short) life, why she left Hubert, and how she ended up with Remi.

I also have a collection of headstone photographs in a collection here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alyska/sets/72057594142988920/

The cemetery in Royal, IA, where Milodell, Mary, Remi, et al are buried is no longer maintained, and completely overgrown. We wouldn't have found any of the stones save for the fact that someone had planted a lilac on Milodell's grave!

Coming up with her ancestry has been a conundrum. When I look at the two couples in that generation of my family tree -- Eli Franker/Mary Delibac and Hubert Gelino/Milodell Beaudry -- the family lore is that Milodell and Mary are either half-sisters, or were raised together, or that Milodell was adopted. I have found little proof of this.

I know that Hubert and Eli both came from Canada (near Kamouraska, Quebec,) and had their names Americanized when they came to Illinois, but I've had a heck of a time finding any more information on Mary or Milodell. Adoption would be one explanation for this. The other is that my paternal grandmother (Mary and Milodell's granddaughter,) Blanche, always said her grandmother was part native american; of Metis descent.

I have a bit more information, but it's currently buried in my office, and almost midnight here! If you'd like, I'll see about digging it out soon.

Hope this helps!

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alyska@gmail.com

Re: Boudreau, Marion, Franker

marylgrace — 2009-09-12 04:18:41Z

There were several Boudreau's and Francouer's that migrated to Beaverville,Iroquois county, Illinois. This was a French Canadian settlement in its early years, and it was formerly called St.Marie/St.Mary , Illinois until it was found there already was a town by that name. My Grandmother was a Boudreau. I have visited Beaverville many times and there are many of both family names in their cemetery.

Boudreau, Marion, Franker

detef — 2009-08-29 22:50:44Z

My greatgrandmother, Melodell, says she was born in Kanakakee Co., Illinois in 1865 on all the census records I can find. Another ancester to her 1st. husband, Hubert Gelino, told me they were married in Kankakee Co. in 1877. That is all he has. The birth certificate of her first child says her maiden name is Marion on the second childs it says its Boudreau. Her second huband was Remi Franker (Francoeur) and they were married in Clay Co. Iowa. She died in 1900. Can't find her parents, birth, marriage,divorce. Where did she come from? Thin air is not possible. Can anyone help me?

Re: giving information

dgfim22 — 2009-05-22 03:12:12Z

Her Alma is the Louise-Alma you found.

Dennis

Obit: Birdy HENRY BOUDREAU

brenhebert — 2009-05-08 01:04:46Z

1969-04-30
Chicago Tribune (IL)

Boudreau

Birdie Boudreau, beloved wife of the late Louis; dear mother of Albert and Lou; grandmother of seven; great-grandmother of 13; fond sister of Mrs. Dorothy Bruckner, Mrs. Mae Ward, Mrs. Sadie Nelson, and Mrs. Hazel Rothenberger. Resting at W. E. Kerr Chapel, 154th and Marshfield, Harvery, where services will be held Thursday, May 1, 1 p.m. Interment Homewood Memorial Gardens. Memorials may be made to Chicago Heart association. 331-0016.

Obit: Della DeRUITER BOUDREAU, Frankfort, IL

brenhebert — 2009-05-08 01:02:12Z

1999-02-16
Chicago Tribune (IL)

DELLA BOUDREAU, 82, WIFE OF HALL OF FAMER

By Diane Struzzi, Tribune Staff Writer.

Edition: Chicago Tribune

To Della Boudreau the most important thing in life was family. She was married to baseball Hall of Famer and former Chicago Cubs broadcaster Lou Boudreau for 61 years, but she shunned the spotlight.

When her husband went on the road, Mrs. Boudreau stayed home with her children. She instilled in them a firm sense of right from wrong and family dedication.

She was "very gentle and loving," said her daughter Barbara Golaszewski. "When she gave her word, that was it. You could trust her with anything."

Mrs. Boudreau, 82, died of the effects of Alzheimer's disease Sunday in her Frankfort home. While she struggled with the disease for about three years, her family rallied around her, tending to her needs.

Mrs. Boudreau grew up in Harvey, and as a teenager attended a sandlot game where she caught the eye of one of the players. Several years later she married Lou Boudreau, following his road games on television and radio. She would later review the highlights of the game with him during their nightly telephone calls.

As a homemaker she mastered sewing, gardening and cooking. She was known for her delectable cheesecake, baked from a recipe given to her by a Kansas City chef. He made a promise never to divulge the ingredients and kept it, her family said.

But she also became schooled in other skills, such as do-it-yourself home repairs, said her daughter. When a gutter or window needed fixing, Mrs. Boudreau did the repairs.

In addition to her daughter, Mrs. Boudreau is also survived by her husband; another daughter, Sharon McLain; two sons, Lou and Jim; two sisters, Marge Grassle and June Muff; 16 grandchildren and six great-grandchildren.

Visitation will be held from 2 to 9 p.m. Wednesday at Gerardi Funeral Home, 41 E. Lincoln Highway, Frankfort. A funeral service is set for 11 a.m. Thursday at the funeral home.

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

brenhebert — 2009-05-08 00:50:44Z

Re: the x at the end of the Boudreau name.

In doing research in the Kankakee and Iroquois Counties in Illinois, currently I do not believe there is a single BOUDREAUX, it is spelled BOUDREAU. In the church records it was another matter completely, since many of the French-Canadian settlers in that region couldn't spell their names, so it was usually the Priest who spelled the names (and many times the same priest spelled the name differently with each corresponding entry).

Re: Lou Boudreau
I believe I copied some obits pertaining to Lou that were in the Chicago Times Archives. His father's obit was in the archives online, but his mother's was. Lou Boudreau, the ballplayer, was a Jr. Interestingly enough his mother was a Jewess (didn't know if anyone knew that). Oh, and he was from Harvey, Illinois, not actually from Chicago.

Re: Are you a decendent of the Yockel s in Lincoln Nebraska

richan13 — 2009-05-04 04:24:45Z

Just a lucky find when I did a search on your name. Thanks Bunches! Sending great favor! Richan

Re: Are you a decendent of the Yockel s in Lincoln Nebraska

richan13 — 2009-05-04 01:46:03Z

May 3, 2009 From Richan Yockel

Richard Yockel was my grandfather, So I guess John and Anna (Sametzki) Yockel were my Great Great Grandfather and Grandmother.

My e-mail address is gtlyons1@comcast.net anything that you could send me would be greatly appreciated. Let me know $$how much .

Thank you , Richan Yockel Lyons

THIS IS WHAT I STARTED WITH ABOUT A YEAR AGO

Classification: Query 9 Sep 2005 4:48PM

Surnames: YOCKEL, SAMETZKI

We would appreciate information on Fred Yockel, b. Mar, 1886, in Beatrice, Gage County, Nebraska, to John Jacob Yockel and Anna Elizabeth Sametzki. His parents were born in Marienburg, West Prussia, Germany

Your question
The only family member we are missing is Fred Yockel. He is only one of the Yockel children who had children; so we are hoping that one of his descendants can help us fill in Yockel and Sametzki blanks. We can't trace after the 1920 census.

Thank you, mary

Mary, only help I can offer is 1930 census report
Havelock, Lancaster, NE

Fred Yockel, Sr. age 41, M, NE-GR-GR, house carpenter
Fred Yockel, Jr., age 18, S, NE x3
Richard Yockel, age 16, S, NE x 3
Mary Yockel, age 15, S, NE x 3
Robert Yockel, age 13, S, NE x 3
Paul Yockel, age 9, S. NE x 3

Havelock is now part of the city of Lincoln.
Fred Sr. states he is married, but Mary E. is not with them on the census.

Jean

Are you a decendent of the Yockel s in Lincoln Nebraska

richan13 — 2009-05-03 19:38:56Z

New to all of this, Thanks!

Richan Yockel

Re: Are you a decendent of the Yockel s in Lincoln Nebraska

MaryBoudreau51 — 2009-05-03 23:09:01Z

How did you make a connection, replying on my Boudreau query? What Yocket do you descend from? We all have to start somewhere. When I started back in 2000, I didn't know a thing. I just typed in Genealogy into the search engine and never looked back. I found more ancestors then I ever thought I had. So, have fun.

My great great grandmother Samletzki Neumann's sister married a Yockel. I do have a photo of gg. grandmother's niece, censuses, ship info, obits. It has been a while since, I have looked at my Neumann and Yockel file. I will be glad to share what I have.

Re: Are you a decendent of the Yockel s in Lincoln Nebraska

MaryBoudreau51 — 2009-05-04 04:03:43Z

Richan/Jean,

I sent you a e-mail with a attachment on the Yockel line.

I will happy to fill in the blanks of Anna Samletzi's sisters Justine and Mary. I descend from Justine.

How did you know that I might be related to the Yockels, as you posted your reply on a Boudreau query? I was surprise to find your reply. I think that I have posted a bunch of Yockel queries, but I have no idea what I have posted on them.

Mary

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

MaryBoudreau51 — 2009-05-07 21:46:30Z

My father was third/fourth cousin to Lou Boudreau, the Cleveland Indian baseball Hall of Famer. I don't have a brother. My Boudreau researchers and Boudreau cousins have been trying to find Lou Boudreau's father.

Lou Boudreau descends from Louis Boudreau and Josephe Nau/Naud/Nault. Their children: Marie Melanie, Louis Charles, Joseph Isaie (1), Joseph Isaie (2), Fredrick I, Louis Jerome, Alexander, Charles Alphonse and Pierre Celestin. We know that Louis Charles and Alexander first settled in Detroit and my ancestor first settled in the area of St. Anne, Illinois. I descend from Alponse. I have baptismal records for all the children and their parents.

There is a story about three Boudreau brothers: Frederick (lived in Missouri), Louis (lived near Chicago) and Charles (lived in Nebraska). They would meet once a year (for how many years, I do not know)....One year they decided to stop adding the "X" at the end of their name. We think that maybe, that Lou is the descendent of Louis Jerome, but we haven't found any record of him in the Chicago area.

You are the first one to say that our name is a soundex. We have found actual priest records: marriage and baptismal....listing the name as: Boudrot, Boudrealt and Boudreau. So, I don't know where you found out that Boudreau was a soundex. I had some relatives who found a street in France, called Boudreau.

What Boudreau do you descend from?

Mary

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

MaryBoudreau51 — 2009-05-07 16:02:14Z

Now, may I ask just who Mary Boudreau is...? I still have 20th century family not located and some named Mary...

I don't how to answer that. My Boudreau line comes through Francios (sp), Charles, Isaie, Louis. I have baptismal, marriage and interment records for these ancestors.

We have tried to document as much as possible, in researching our Boudreau ancestors.

I have been in touch with a few Boudreau researchers and have a few cousins that descend also from Michel Boudrot's sons, who I'm in contact with.

Good luck with your research.

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

MaryBoudreau51 — 2009-05-07 03:17:22Z

My cousins and I have pretty much done all the research for our Boudreau/Boudrot line and now are only seeking descendants of our Boudreau/Boudrot ancestors.

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

MaryBoudreau51 — 2009-05-08 03:41:16Z

Ray....I knew that Lou was with the Boston Red Socks, besides being a player and Manager for the Indians, he also became the manager of the Kansas City Athletics in the mid 50s. My father had met him when he was working in Chicago and later he visited Newton, Kansas, where we were living at the time. I was to young to know about this visit.

Back in 2000 we had a garage fire and because of smoke damage we had clean out the house, unfortunately one of the contractors threw some of our historic Boudreau documents. On one page, our name was spelt BoudreauX, so the story that I told you made sense to me. However, before this document was found, I had always thought, since our Boudreau line came from Quebec we never had a "X" at the end our name. So, who knows.

I have baptismal and marriage and interment records, recorded by priest from Port Royal(e) Acadia, which list our name as Boudrot. The priests in Deschambult listed the name as Boudreau and the priest in Montreal, listed the name as Boudrault. Although, the baptismal record for Louis Michel (Boudreau) was Boudrot, b. 30 Sep 1782, Deschambult.

I haven't begun to do any research in France for our Boudreau line, so I will be looking forward to what you find. I busy right now, tracing my Allain/Allaire/Bissonnet/Senecal/Gagne/Provencher/Beland lines and more right. I have so much history of my French-Canadiana ancestors, it is just amazing.

Mary

Re: giving information

millieshndc140 — 2009-05-19 22:39:02Z

Maybe you can help me?? My grandfather was Armidas born in Canada in 1886. Married Evelina(born in MA). Had a farm that burnt think in Fletcher, VT. He was in Chittenden County, VT in 1920 census. 1930 census in Cambridge Village, VT. He was then 43 yrs. Census conducted April he died that same year - buried in Cambridge. ?? where married - he was 22 & she 18 when married. They had 9 children: Arthur F. born 1909 in MA, Rose A. born 1912 in MA, Elenor E. born 1915 in VT, Mae L. born 1919 in VT, Rudolph R. born 1921 in VT, Albert A. born 1922 in VT, Edward A. born 1925 in VT, Robert H. born 1928 in Webster, MA (he is my father), Paul (Richard) A. Born 1930.
Elenor is now dying she is 94 yrs. My father is the only other living (Guilford, VT).
Thank you in advance.
Sincerely . . . Wendi (Boudreau) Mackin

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

farplaces — 2009-05-13 20:14:06Z

Dennis...

ooooops...I meant Lou Boudreau's "sister"...not his siter...lol

Ray...

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

farplaces — 2009-05-13 20:08:40Z

Hmmmmm....soundex...words with similar soundings while spelled differently...?

You are the professional here, Dennis, and I won't live long enough even to become a professional amature...! WINK !

With all due respect to my peers and the hypothese themes they have brought forth, I just cannot bring myself to accepting them as a closure for unknown facts...

My grandfather, Alphonse LaCasse, once told me..."he solution to any unknown factor is when you know the 'who, what, when, where and why' of that factor. If all the crossroads have a dead-end, go back and start over and find out what you overlooked. If that doesn't do it, go around it and work in reverse."

I was just a little child then but almost 15 years later one of my school teachers in Campbellton, NB, ca. said the exact same thing. Resultantly, this has instilled my attitude that there is always another way of doing things and that my way may not always be the best way and that others having other ways should never be overlooked...

In lesser words, are we named Boudreau or Boudrot...? If so, "who, what, when, where and why...?

I know what you mean also in regards to the era of pre-standardization of France french. Yet, what is that but another hurtle to overcome. You speak and write french fluently while I speak (have spoken) broken canadian french. With the thousands of french language dialects just in the Province of Cuebec alone, it is something not holding back progress; that's for sure... Yeppers, I am a lip-shy canuc, pursee...

The wealth of information in posts of yours, Don, Mary and so many unknowing as myself is a leap forward in leap-years for me and others that you so caringly give to from your heart. I so much appreciate what you and others give and surely speak for many seeking as I am...

Meanwhile...please bring this to Mary's attention regarding locating the Lou Boudreau family of the Chicago area...

My last contact with Lou Boudreau "jr" was about six years ago. He was working for a company in Phoenix, AZ and the tele # 800.675.7997 was his office #. If he is still working there then I am sure he will have additional information of value and also point to locating his siter whom I believe is now in Missouri...

ciao,

Ray...

Re: Boudreau in Petit Rocher

farplaces — 2009-05-08 23:14:02Z

An old post I just found from you.

If you seek the Samuel Boudreau line into New Brunswick then contact me.

Ray Boudreau
farplaces@seidata.com

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

farplaces — 2009-05-08 02:11:46Z

Hey Dennis, did not know where you live...

Meanwhile, don't rule out illiteracy entirely as anything was possible back in that era...lol

I am from New England origin which is saturated with Italians whom we called "WOPS"...an insult, right...??? Well no, not at all. When Italian immigrants came to America and had no immigration identification when applying for work they were given papers titled "W.O.P." which means "With Out Papers"...

So much for history and anecdotes for tonight, you guys...so thanx again for so much but now get some rest from all this...

Good night...

Ray

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

farplaces — 2009-05-08 01:56:29Z

First...in my previous message I think I made reference to Dennis Boudreau being in Louisiana...OOOPS...! I meant Don Boudreau of Lafayette, Louisianna...he is an angel in disquise for all those he has helped and far more than could be counted, I am sure...myself included...

Both Don and Dennis have brought more families and friends together than anyone could imagine, be sure of that... May God always bestow blessings upon them for their heartful gifts to others...

Thanx for your present notations regarding Boudrot. Like yourself, my close friends in France have found the same problems you have. Yet, they refuse to quit seeking...

A few weeks ago I decided to research the European timeline and went back to the war of 1271 where/when south France (now) was known as Langedoc and France won that civil war and annexed the Langedoc region, now referred to as southern France. There was no standardized French grammar at that era and spelling was all soundex whether a name or not...

I will also inject here that the nickname of Canadians as being "lip shy" because they speak with their hands as much as with their lips is also the result of limited french grammar education...lol

There have been rumours in France and some universities of England that the original name of Boudreau evolved in the Langedoc Region.

During the war of 1271 many Boudreau fled to Switzerland and the spelling remained the same thru to the 17th century and there are records of this in Britany. After that there was a spelling change and could well be the soundex because the french language had not yet been fully standardized and incorparated for the newer generations...

Kind of interesting, huh...? Would you believe I hated georgraphy when in scHool in both our countries...? Well mom...look at me now...! LOL

oops...just noticed that Dennis wrote this and not Mary...lol

Hi Dennis...

I think I mentioned to you of my brother in Florida... Well, he has more degrees than a thermometer and is presently translating transcripts and I have a feeling it is "pre-french" as he has expressed interest in our lineage and speaks/writes several languages as well. Right now he is "mums the word" and won't tell me a darn thing. I am anxious to know more of what he is into but do believe he will find what he is after...

Ray

Re: Boudreau married Boudreau

farplaces — 2009-05-07 03:11:37Z

That's funny...can only remember one situation like that...lol

Anyway...I lived in Campbellton and the bridge across the Restigouche is there...built after the fifties. It crosses to "Crosse Point", Quebec and I believe that is the Mic Mac Indian reservation...

As for your searching...gather as much info from your own family first. You will find very little online information after 1911 and even less if the people you search are still living...

Ray Boudreau

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

farplaces — 2009-05-07 02:45:22Z

You will reach a dead end when reaching Michel Boudrot b. 1601 LaRochelle France

Ray Boudreau

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

farplaces — 2009-05-07 09:29:07Z

Hi...

I am glad you found all the pieces and that they fit for you.

Unfortunately, beyond Michel Boudrot, no one has gotten very far.

I reject the name Boudrot for it being a soundex and now my venture is to go back to the Langedoc era and check every available family name in effort to break the mystery of Boudrot. Myself, another in the USA and two dear friends in Lavigne, France are presently on this project. Boudrot was not hatched from an egg so there must be many family pieces surrounding his life as there is with yours and mine...

During the revolution and other wars many records were burnt, as well as for several other situations. Yet, if there is a needle in that haystack of events, millions of names, it is bound to be found eventually...!

Now, may I ask just who Mary Boudreau is...? I still have 20th century family not located and some named Mary...

Raymond Boudreau

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

farplaces — 2009-05-07 20:31:15Z

It seems you certainly have put your hours in and it's predictable to even become addicted as well. All it takes is a little success to become an un-ending driving force to go on...

I was wondering if you were Mary Boudreau...relative to Lou Boudreau, the baseball hall of fame Boudreau. I spoke with her brother a few years ago, Missouri, I believe, and he gave me Mary's telephone number but it seems she was never home when I called...

Many Boudreau left Nova Scotia and New Brunswick to find work at the major railway terminal in Capreol, Ontario during the early 1900's. Then, a few decades later, the terminal moved to Sudbury when mining began and this rendered Capreol a near ghost town which is struggling to survive even today. It was if the name Boudreau was erased because records for that migration were not recorded and only very very few of that era remain alive today. Yet, there are many siblings remaining in Sudbury and a few do have interest to communicate...but very few...!

As for the Boudrot ending at LaRochelle, I keep an open mind to retain my sanity and even some humour perhaps. Simply said, if Boudrot was "NOT" a soundex then we would have no one named Boudreau, would we...??? lol

Have fun, Mary, and God bless...

Ray B.

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

farplaces — 2009-05-08 00:22:36Z

Hi again, Mary...

I am in the Michel Boudrot lineage...born about 1601 in France..don't have my papers beside me but...born in Aunis or LaRochelle or wherever in France. If you have anything of any Boudrot family in France I sure would appreciate having that info...

Reversing directions from Michel of 1601, my grandparents were Jean S and Jeanne Elizabeth (Beebe) Boudreau of Beaver Brook and Petit Rocher, New Brunswick, ca of latter 1800's and early 1900's...

As for the Lou Boudreau clan removing the "x" from their name, I fail to understand why they would. Nonetheless, stranger things do happen...lol

Many of your clan moved to Massachusetts during the American Revolution...mostly south of Boston. Many remain there and are searching roots these days also... I still have relatives there myself...

As for Lou Boudreau, people tend to forget he played for the Boston Red Sox also...annnnd...65 years ago there was no "x" on the end of his name either...I know because I lived there...born there also... I have saved several artifacts of his, Babe Ruth, Ted Williams, Mantel and a few others of the top rankers and have given them to a daughter whom now won't even let me borrow one single item...lol

When Lou Boudreau left the Cleveland Indians, he went on to manage the Chicago Cubs. I met him again there. Then he became the Cubs Sportscaster before retiring and I met him again... As far as most Chicago folks feel, Lou only ever played for the Cubs...remember that if you connect with a Chi-city folk...! lol

Mary, I have a second home in another state 200 miles from here and go there once or twice a month. Next Monday I am going there and when there I will open the computer there and see if I have the telephone number of Louis Jr. Hopefully he has not relocated and the number remains active. I am not online at the other place and expect to be back here Thursday of next week...

I don't think I said Boudrot "is" a soundex and am not going back to read, Mary, but do feel I said I "think" it may be a soundex. There are well over 200 soundex spellings of our name and you already are aware of the variables in records with your own experiences...

My point was simply saying that Michel Boudrot was not hatched from an egg and so there must be a family name link to him in France someplace before his birth about 1601. It appears the best of the best have yet to find that...

If you have any Boudrot or Boudreau history in France prior to 1601, Mary, then you can step ahead of the class, I assure you...!

My second comment was that if I came from Boudrot then how does my Boudreau exist as all my ancestors are Boudreau until the Michel Boudrot of 1601...

That is my conviction to believe that the name Boudrot may be a soundex...

One more note about the letter "x" ending. Altho found in Eastern Canada, most folks north of the American "Mason-Dickson Line" (Georgia) consider those with the letter "x" ending originated from the New Orleans area because the French occupied there centuries past and had a fort there as well...

Dennis, that great guy genealogist that gives his heart to folks like you and I lives in Lousiana and has a tremendous database he keeps updated. I am sure he can pick up the loose ends you seek about the Lou Boudreau clan...

Lou is dead now but does have some siblings still in the Chicago area...

Helpful or not, that's all I know, Mary. In some ways I do have an advantage for searching as I have lived in several places in both Canada and the US and do have living relatives coast to coast and from Labradore to Mexico...and even a few abroad...lol My dad worked for the CNR, CPR and B&M Railways which caused my family to move often... Believe me, a rolling stone does gather no moss and it's very difficult to keep up with the past...even moreso in this transient lifestyle we have grown into...

Ray...

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

dgfim22 — 2009-05-07 23:27:20Z

Hi Ray,

Some of us were wondering what you meant by Boudreau as a Soundex??? Outside of using the "Soundex System" in a census enumeration, this doesn't make sense to us, but all of us here do laud your resolve and intention to help find a connection back in France, as we all hope for the same thing ourselves.

Just as your family heralds from the New Brunswick branch of the family, and Mary and mine herald from two different branches from Quebec, we are all cousins, distant but nonetheless, cousins of the same ancestor's descendence.

If you go to France researching, I caution you in the fact that early French records are among the most difficult to read before the 1700s, using a medeival form of paleography (handwriting) which takes an expert to read and interpret. Also, I think Languedoc is not where you want to look. Why? Because of the following reasons:

As for the line ending in La Rochelle, I don’t buy that either. If anything, La Rochelle was the point of departure for the Boudrot family, not their place of origin to my knowledge. Perhaps you haven’t read the following from the Boudreau Family Association homepage concerning our ancestor, Michel. I translated it via Google translation. It gives the following possibilities:

About our ancestor Michel Boudrot

Despite several attempts to find him, it was impossible to determine with certainty the origins of Michel Boudrot our common ancestor. Some hypotheses have been advanced including:

Hypothesis No. 1

An origin in the region of Loudun: this assumption is mainly based on the fact that several Acadian families originated in this region, but that remains to be confirmed for certain. No act with the surname Boudrot seems to have been found so far in this region.

Hypothesis No. 2

The second origin, most often adopted, is the parish of Notre-Dame de Cougnes in the diocese of La Rochelle. This origin is frequently advanced in that his wife, Michelle AUCOIN, originates from this parish, but no records of the Boudrot family have ever been found in La Rochelle. The records of Notre-Dame de Cougnes before 1650 no longer exist.

Hypothesis No. 3

Another avenue that has been explored: that of Michel’s origin in the region of Niort, at a town called Germon Rouvre. It was in the reading of the journal of Simon Robert, local notary at Germon Rouvre, which relates to events going back to 1621, the start of his research. This Simon Robert’s first wife was Andrée BOUDREAU, the daughter of Simon Boudreau and Michelle Quinault. It immediately becomes clear that the spelling is not the same, we have BOUDREAU and not Boudrot, as our surname was always BOUDROT in all the register entries, from Acadia. In addition, this research has yielded nothing conclusive.

Hypothesis No. 4

In recent years a new lead has been advanced by several researchers, including René Perron and Michel Turquois (Dennis’ note: Both very reputable French researchers, by the way!), whose research is particularly focused on the Burgundy region and the southern region of Champagne.

René Perron, on the trail of Nicolas Le Creux (he was the one who recruited the first Acadian colonists) found several registry entries (or acts) in the region of Monceau-les-Mines.

Michel Turquois found Boudrots from the early seventeenth century to the north of the Yonne, and to south of l’Aube, as well as in the region of Langres. He even found there an act of baptism of a certain Michel Boudrot in 1599.

Claude Massé in the French periodical “Racines & Rameaux Français d’Acadie” (that is, “French Roots & Branches of Acadia” (Issue Number 11), notes that a certain Louis Boudrot (1634-1717), an Advisor to the King, became perpetual Mayor of the City of Langres, and his parents were Jean Boudrot and Marguerite Gautherot (both Acadian surnames). Perhaps a coincidence?

OT in many olf French records is pronounced "O" or "EAU" (as in the word for water) in French, thus the modern surname variation as we three and many others spell it: BOUDR+EAU. So the surname evolved from its original - BOUDROT. That’s the correct explanation. Of everyone who has taken a stab at finding Michel, I think Michel Turquois is on the correct track. I wish he would continue and/or publish his findings in their entirety so we might all evaluate the results. This is the theory I would most support myself.

Hope all this helps, and let's explain ourselves if there are any seemingly misunderstandings of what people post here on the message board.

Best regards to all my cousins, Dennis Boudreau

PS For the record, yes, Mary has put in many hours, as have many others who post here. All of us are very dedicated to finding the many missing links back to our illustrious ancestor, Michel Boudrot.

Re: giving information

dgfim22 — 2009-05-22 03:09:48Z

Louis Boudreau, husband of Elizabeth Johnson is a descendant of the BEAUDREAU dit Graveline family, who changed their surname to Boudreau in Quebec. Alma's first two marriages are located in Coaticook (Stanstead County), Quebec.

Dennis

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

dgfim22 — 2009-05-08 01:27:39Z

Sorry, the word is TEXAS, not Texts. I need better glasses, I guess. Too much genealogy and tiny fonts in my computer. ;-)

Dennis

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

dgfim22 — 2009-05-08 01:25:14Z

I just heard from Don, who lives in Lafayette, Louisiana, not Texts (my error, sorry).

He also sent two articles on the -x spelling. Seems that a local judge Briant who had come to Louisiana from Haiti, whose orincipal tarding partner was Bordeaux, France. The "o" sound there was formed with the '"eaux", and so this was the one spelling adopted by the judge in recording all the surnames in Louisiana which ended in -eau. The "illiterate" explanation is then a false one.

Thanks, Don for the clarification.

Dennis

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

dgfim22 — 2009-05-08 01:09:04Z

Thanks, Brenda.

We can always count on your accuracy and great research results. Keep up the great work! And thanks again for the further clarifications on Boudreaux and Lou's family.

Best regards, Dennis

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

dgfim22 — 2009-05-08 00:38:11Z

Ray,

I live in Rhode Island. Don Boudreaux lives in Texas.

Just clarifying.

Also, All the Boudrots carried the BoudROT surname from the beginnings in Acadian up to and including some years after the expulsion. The suranem BOUDREAU came only AFTER the expulsion, even your branch at Petit-Rocher, and mine too from the Magdalen islands. Mary's branch I believe changed over earlier, and this thanks to the spelling given the family by the priest compiling their records at Deschambault.

Another thing, 98% of the Illinois Boudreaus, did not have an X at the end of their name, as they came from Quebec, where no x at the end was common. The Boudreau -X comes from the Louisiana branch (this is why they have a separate Message Board), where it is believed many of the earliest members of the families there could not write and thus made their (X) as their signature. This X then became attached to the surname, and not just on Boudreau but on many others as well. Don can correct me if I'm wrong on this, but this is what I was told many years ago.

Hope this clarifies some discrepancies. Hope too you saw my message on Michel's possible origins which preceded this posting. Best regards, Dennis

Re: Obit: Birdy HENRY BOUDREAU

dgfim22 — 2009-05-08 02:49:39Z

Hi Brenda,

I found Birdie's husband, Louis Boudreau Sr's death. He died in Harvey, IL on 3 Sep 1939.

Certificate #0000087

Dennis

Re: Obit: Della DeRUITER BOUDREAU, Frankfort, IL

dgfim22 — 2009-05-08 02:30:37Z

As always, Brenda, thanks so very much for this and Birdie's obituaries.

Dennis

Re: Isaie Boudreau & Marie Josephe Belisle, Deschambault

dgfim22 — 2009-05-08 02:26:53Z

Well, at least this board is seeing some activity, which is a good thing.

Talk more later, Dennis