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Robin  (View posts) Posted: 14 Jul 2002 6:37AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Brandenburg,Schwedt
Got help from a nice lady who got me started on the right track with the right names. Confirmed the info on Royal websites and German websites. Some only in German but a friend who knows German was able to tell me what they said.
Friedrick Wiliam, "'the Great Elector" and his 2nd wife
Princess Dorothea of Schleswig-Holstein's 3rd son;
Duke Albrecht Friedrich von Brandenburg-Schwedt
b-1/24/1672 (he was the half brother of King Fredrich 1 of Prusia
and the uncle to Fredrich the Great)
Married Princess Marie Dorothea of Kurland in 1700
they had 3 children;
Fredrich Wilhelm von Brandenburg-Schwedt
Karl von Brandenburg-Schwedt
Markgraefin Abertine (only daughter)
the 1st son Fredrich was born in 1701 and died 1741 in
Battle of Mollwitz
His children;
Alexander Heinrich (henry) b-1721 d-July 1793
Solomon b-8/24/1722 d-March 1786
Wilhelm Heinrich also b-8/24/1722 d- March 24, 1796 in Freedrick,MD
Johannes John Martin

Wilhelm Heinrich von Brandenburg-Schwedt marrieda Ann
in Holland in 1747
children;
Maria
Elizabeth
Heinrich (Henry)
Johann (John)
Wilhelm (William)
Arron
Eve
Jacob
Matthias
It looks as if it was Wilhelm Heinrich and histwin brother
Solomon who went to Holland. Wilhelm married in Holland
but returned to Prussia were his children were born.
Records show Mathias was named Elector of Estates in 1758
Records also state that a return to Catholic was not in the time of
Fredrich the Great, because he didn't believe in any God.
Two places showed that Matthias came to America with his father & uncle. Other sibs came later.
Court records show that Mathias' father Wilhelm did died in
1796 in Freedrick,MD


Re: Matthias von Brandenburg-Schwedt

virginiaFinley900  (View posts) Posted: 14 Jul 2002 2:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Brandenburg
Could you please give the written source of this information so everyone can go to the source and print it or make note of the source. We need "firm", "written", "proven" documentation as to the father and mother of "our Matthias" and the names of his siblings. Thank you for your post regarding Matthias von Brandenburg-Schwedt. We shall all look forward to seeing your next post stating the source of your information.

Virginia F.

Re: Matthias von Brandenburg-Schwedt

virginiaFinley900  (View posts) Posted: 14 Jul 2002 4:12PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: BRANDENBURG
This is the information I have but need "firm, written, proven" documentation on some parts.

If your information is different, please give sources and sites where we may look for the information.

Thank you
vmf

Descendants of Albrecht (Albert) of Brandenburg


Generation No. 1

1. DUKE Albrecht (ALBERT) OF20 Brandenburg (THE GREAT19 ELECTOR, FRIEDRICH WILLIAM Brandenburg, ELECTOR GEORG WILHELM OF18 Brandenburg, ELECTOR JOHANN SIEGMUND OF17, ELECTOR JOACHIM FRIEDRICH OF16, ELECTOR JOHANN GEORG OF15, ELECTOR JOACHIM II OF14, ELECTOR JOACHIM NESTOR OF13, ELECTOR JOHANN CICERO OF12, ELECTOR Albrecht ACHILLES OF11, ELECTOR FRIEDRICH I OF Brandenburg &10 MARGRAVE, FRIEDRICH V OF9 HOHENZOLLERN-NURNBERG, JOHANN II OF8 NURNBERG, FRIEDRICH IV OF7, FRIEDRICH III OF6, KONRAD I OF5, FRIEDRICH I OF4, FRIEDRICH3 II, FRIEDRICH I2 VON ZOLLERN, HOUSE OF1 HOHENZOLLERN, BURKARD VON ZOLORIN)1,2 was born January 24, 1671/72 in Berlin, Brandenburg, Prussia3, and died 1731. He married PRINCESS MARIE DOROTHEA OF COURLAND3 1703. She was born 1684, and died 1743.
Notes for DUKE Albrecht (ALBERT) OF BRANDENBURG:
The Brandenburg and the Hohenzollerns were Lutheran. As a result of marriage contracts at the beginning of the 17th century, the HOHENZOLLERN family turned Calvinist, but did not impose their form of Protestantism on their subjects.
Ref: Carlyle's History: This ALBERT ("Albert FRIEDRICH") died suddenly 1731, age fifty-nine).
Then, by another, the younger of those old Half-brothers, there is a Karl, a second FRIEDRICH WILHELM, Cousin Margraves: plenty of Cousins;--and two young Margravines among them, [Michaelis, i. 425.] the youngest about Fritz's own age. [NOTE OF THE Cousin MARGRAVES.--Great Elector, by his Second Wife, had five Sons, two of whom left Children;--as follows (so far as they concern us,-- the others omitted):--

1. Son PHILIP'S Children (Mother the Old Dessauer's Sister) are: FRIEDRICH WILHELM (1700), who wished much, but in vain, to marry Wilhelmina. Heinrich FRIEDRICH (1709), a comrade of Fritz's in youth; sometimes getting into scrapes;--misbehaved, some way, at the Battle of Molwits (first of Friedrich's Battles), 1741, and was inexorably CUT by the new King, and continued under a cloud thenceforth .--This PHILIP ("Philip WILHELM") died 1711, his forty-third year; Widow long survived him. 2. Son ALBERT'S Children (Mother a Courland Princess) are: Karl (1705); lived near Custrin; became a famed captain, in the Silesian Wars, under his Cousin. Friedrich (1701); fell at Molwitz, 1741.

Friedrich WILHELM (a Margraf FRIEDRICH WILHELM "No. 2,"--NAMESAKE of his now Majesty, it is like); born 1714; killed at Prag, by a cannon-shot (at King Friedrich's hand, reconnoitring the place), 1744.--

This ALBERT ("Albert FRIEDRICH" ) died suddenly 1731, age fifty-nine.] No want of Cousins; the Crown-Prince seeing much of them all; and learning pleasantly their various qualities, which were good in most, in some not so good, and did not turn out supreme in any case. But, for the rest, Sister Wilhelmina is his grand confederate and companion; true in sport and in earnest, in joy and in sorrow. Their truthful love to one another, now and till death, is probably the brightest element their life yielded to either of them.


Children of Albrecht Brandenburg and MARIE COURLAND are:
2. i. MARKGRAF FRIEDRICH WILHELM21 VON BRANDENBURG-SCHWEDT, b. 1701, Brandenburg Palace, Berlin, Brandenburg, Prussia; d. April 10, 1741, The Battle of Mollwitz (in battle)..
ii. MARKGRAF FRIEDRICH VON BRANDENBURG-SCHWEDT3, b. August 9, 1704, Brandenburg Palace, Berlin, Brandenburg, Prussia.; d. June 15, 1707, Brandenburg Palace, Berlin, Brandenburg, Prussia..
3. iii. MARKGRAF KARL VON BRANDENBURG-SCHWEDT, b. June 10, 1705, Brandenburg Palace, Berlin, Brandenburg, Prussia.; d. June 22, 1762, Breslau.
iv. MARKGRAEFIN ANNA SOFIE CHARLOTTE VON BRANDENBURG-SCHWEDT3, b. December 24, 1706, Brandenburg Palace, Berlin, Brandenburg, Prussia.; d. January 3, 1750/51, Castle Sangerhausen4; m. DUKE WILHELM HEINRICH OF SAXE-EISENACH-JENA, June 3, 1723, Brandenburg Palace, Berlin, Brandenburg, Prussia.; b. November 10, 1691, Oranienwald; d. July 26, 1741, Eisenach S. P..

Notes for DUKE WILHELM HEINRICH OF SAXE-EISENACH-JENA:
Was DUKE of Saxe-Eisenach-Jena 1729-1741.
v. MARGRAEFIN LUISE VON BRANDENBURG-SCHWEDT5, b. May 11, 1709; d. February 19, 1725/26.
vi. FRIEDRICH VON BRANDENBURG-SCHWEDT, b. August 13, 1710, Berlin; d. April 10, 1741, Mollwitz (in battle).
vii. MARKGRAEFIN ALBERTINE VON BRANDENBURG-SCHWEDT5, b. April 21, 1712, Brandenburg Palace, Berlin, Brandenburg, Prussia.; d. September 7, 1750, Bernburg; m. FIRST VIKTOR VIKTOR FRIEDRICH VON ANHALT-BERNBURG, May 22, 1733, Potsdam; b. September 20, 1700, Bernburg; d. May 18, 1765, Bernburg.
viii. MARGRAF FRIEDRICH WILHELM VON BRANDENBURG-SCHWEDT5, b. March 28, 1714, Brandenburg Palace, Berlin, Brandenburg, Prussia.; d. September 12, 1744, Prag (in battle).
Notes for MARGRAF FRIEDRICH WILHELM VON BRANDENBURG-SCHWEDT:
Friedrich WILHELM, the third son of Albert was born in 1714, a namesake of FRIEDRICH the Great. Ironically, he was killed in 1744 by cannon accidentally fired by FRIEDRICH the Great. (ref: Carlyle's History: killed at Prag, by a cannon-shot (at King Friedrich's hand, reconnoitring the place), 1744 -


Generation No. 2

2. MARKGRAF FRIEDRICH WILHELM21 VON BRANDENBURG-SCHWEDT (Albrecht (ALBERT) OF20 Brandenburg, THE GREAT19 ELECTOR, FRIEDRICH WILLIAM Brandenburg, ELECTOR GEORG WILHELM OF18 Brandenburg, ELECTOR JOHANN SIEGMUND OF17, ELECTOR JOACHIM FRIEDRICH OF16, ELECTOR JOHANN GEORG OF15, ELECTOR JOACHIM II OF14, ELECTOR JOACHIM NESTOR OF13, ELECTOR JOHANN CICERO OF12, ELECTOR Albrecht ACHILLES OF11, ELECTOR FRIEDRICH I OF Brandenburg &10 MARGRAVE, FRIEDRICH V OF9 HOHENZOLLERN-NURNBERG, JOHANN II OF8 NURNBERG, FRIEDRICH IV OF7, FRIEDRICH III OF6, KONRAD I OF5, FRIEDRICH I OF4, FRIEDRICH3 II, FRIEDRICH I2 VON ZOLLERN, HOUSE OF1 HOHENZOLLERN, BURKARD VON ZOLORIN)5,5 was born 1701 in Brandenburg Palace, Berlin, Brandenburg, Prussia, and died April 10, 1741 in The Battle of Mollwitz (in battle).. He married UNKNOWN 1721 in Palace, Berlin, Brandenburg, Prussia..

Notes for MARKGRAF FRIEDRICH WILHELM VON BRANDENBURG-SCHWEDT:
Frederick WILHELM Brandenburg (grandson of the Great Elector, Frederick WILHELM and father of Matthias Brandenburg) was born in the Brandenburg Palace, Berlin, Brandenburg, Prussia. He was killed April 10, 1741 at the Battle of Mollwitz, Frederick the Great's first victory. His big battalions of Prussian-disciplined infantry defeated the Austrians even after his cavalry had been driven off the field with him included. Frederick the Great thought he had lost. He was drinking his sorrows away in a pub when he got the news of his victory which cost his kinsman Frederick WILHELM Brandenburg's life.

Albert FRIEDRICH, also a MARGRAVE and second son of the Great Elector and Dorothea, who had married a Courland princess, had three sons. The first, FRIEDRICH WILHELM, born in 1701, was killed in action in the Battle of Mollwitz in 1741. He had three sons, Mathias, William, and Jacob, who came over to America in about 1741. They would have had their grandfather Albert's MARGRAVE, which they may have forfeited when they left the country.

LDS microfilm, Batch F6010556, Disk # 09317, Sheets 74 thru 80, File Name: COLEMA01.GED. Submitted by Barry Ellis Coleman, 2515 E. Olive 4C, Arlington Hts, IL. 60004 (708) 870-8088.
Ref: "The Brandenburg Family" by John Frederick Brandenburg, 198

More About MARKGRAF FRIEDRICH WILHELM VON BRANDENBURG-SCHWEDT:
Born 1: August 13, 1710, Brandenburg Palace, Berlin, Brandenburg, Prussia.

Children of FRIEDRICH VON BRANDENBURG-SCHWEDT and UNKNOWN are:
i. MATTHIAS22 BRANDENBURG*6, b. 1738, Brandenburg Palace, Berlin, Brandenburg, Prussia; d. November 20, 1807, Crab Orchard, Lincoln Co., KY.; m. HESTER WALGAMOT, 1764, Frederich Co, MD.; b. 1744.
Notes for Matthias BRANDENBURG*:
Matthias Brandenburg, great grandson of The Great Elector, FRIEDRICH William of Brandenburg and half second cousin to Frederick II, The Great, was named "Elector of Estates" in 1758.

Came to America with brothers William & Jacob about 1741. Jacob (who emigrated to America and became the "Maryland Brandenburgs"),
Ref: John Friederich Brandenburg, 1984
NOTE: . . . . .
BRANDENBURG

The Brandenburg family, which traces its origin to the province of Brandenburg, Germany. Jacob, Matthias and William Brandenburg, the founders of the American branch of the family were natives of Brandenburg, Germany, and members of a wealthy family, no doubt connected with the nobility (Rejonoy I) It is said that after the estate was confiscated by the crown it came into the possession of Prince Bismarck. During the reign of the father of the present emperor of Germany, the estate was restored to the Brandenburg family and efforts have been made to gain possession of it, but all efforts have proved unsuccessful ("History of Frederick County, Maryland", published in 1910, page 878).

Solomon (HEINRICH FRIEDRICH) Brandenburg was a citizen and resident of Prussia (now a part of Germany). A paper circularized among his descendants around 1850 by a C.S. Strasburg alleged that the estate of Solomon Brandenburg was confiscated by the Ruler of Prussia because of the religious opinions of the owner. (During the reign of Frederick I (1701-1740) and his son, Frederick II (Frederick the Great) - Prussia (1740-1763). A circular letter was sent to descendants of Solomon Brandenburg on November 23, 1888 by a J.R. Taylor requesting contributions to pay the retainer fee of attorneys in order to secure the estate.

"The History of the Pennsylvania German Pioneers ", volume 1, page 2279 lists Johannes Andonges (Anthony) Brandenburgh, a Palatine German, age 29, arriving September 30, 1740, in Philadelphia on the ship "SAMUEL & ELIZABETH", William Chilton, Commander, from Rotterdam. He qualified September 30, 1740 (took the oath of allegiance); page 4798 . . .

Wilhelm HEINRICH Brandenburg who it is believed to have been a cousin or nephew, arrived on the ship "TWO BROTHERS" September 15, 1752; page 713 . . . Jacob Brandenburg came November 4, 1766 aboard the ship "SALLY", much too late to have been Johannes Andonges's brothers. The aforementioned ships were English, embarking from the port of Rotterdam, Holland and landed at Philadelphia Harbor. Most of the passengers on board were from the Palatinate section of Germany. Since only the names of the adult male passengers were included on the Ship's passenger list; his wife and minor children were not listed.

During the eighteenth century conditions were poor in the Palatinate (Germany). In the year 1709 a large colony of Palatines emigrated from Germany to the New World. They landed at New York and settled there in the Mohawk Valley. They discovered that conditions in the Valley were as bad, if not worse, than those they had left behind. By 1722 many had returned to Germany bringing with them tales of the privations they had encountered. This brought the exodus to a halt. But by 1727 Palatine Germans again decided to seek their fortunes in America. They arrived in large numbers until about the time of the Revolution. Almost all of them settled first in Pennsylvania and in the late 1700's many migrated down into the Shenandoah Valley area of Maryland and Virginia and into certain counties of North Carolina. Migration into Ohio and the midwest did not generally begin until about 1800.

It is believed WILHELM and Jacob were born in Holland to Solomon Brandenburg who had been run out of Germany (John FRIEDRICH Brandenburg, 1984 says Solomon was jailed in Germany) (THIS SEEMS TO BE WHERE EVERY ONE HAS GONE ASTRAY - Wilhelm Henrich had a son, . believe 7th born child .... William Henry Brandenburg Jr. was born 10/8/1758 "on water", therefore WILHELM Henrick had to have been in Germany or Holland between January 1758 and March 1758 to have fathered this child . . . therefore Jeff Shepler's documentation hold that WILHELM Henrick and Matthias came to America departing Rotterdam August or October 1758, arriving after the birth of William Henry Jr. 10/8/1758. From all the family stories it sounds to me like WILHELM H., Matthias and Jacob, all three, arrived together in America. I have in our notes that "Jacob came to America with his two brothers, Matthias and William".......

I have used the documentation of Louise Myers Young about 1971, EC Brandenburg and Calvin Earl Brandenburg, 1961 that had been given to Ben Brandenburg (Dallas, Texas), WFT Vol. 16 #253, Vol. 13 #354 (Louise Myers Young) and others on WFT CD's and what I have found on the Internet.

Solomon Brandenburg's family was the ruling family of the Duchy of Baden, Prussia.

WE NEED "PROVEN DOCUMENTATION" THAT JOINS "OUR Matthias Brandenburg" TO THE ROYAL LINE.





Re: Matthias von Brandenburg-Schwedt

vix64  (View posts) Posted: 15 Jul 2002 8:51PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Brandenburg
ok so i'm not that up to date on any of this but i wonder. you said you need written proof, some forn of documentation. well, you are right here on ancestry.com, which HAS written documentation. I started by searching for my great grandfather. eventually i just kept on going down the line with the fathers. i came to a point where i saw our dear friend Matthais. it's all right here...

Name: Matthias BRANDENBURG
Sex: M
Birth: Abt 1740 in Berlin, Prussia
Death: 20 Nov 1806-1807 in Clark Co, Kentucky
Note:
! Brandenburg Book
! Birth-Marriage-Death:Pers. comm.;Otto Harrington;Allen,OK;Jan 1991
! CENSUS: 1790; Hampshire Co.,VA;1782 & 1784; List of Abreham Johnson; 12
whites; One Dwelling
! Frontiersman and farmer. Immigrated to the British Colonies in North America, sailing from Amsterdam aboard the vessel TWO BROTHERS, landing at the port of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Colony. 15-9-1752. Established himself with the German Community of Frederick County, Maryland, there remaining until 1773. Resided within Hampshire County, Virginia, 1773-1787. Recognized for assisting the American Colonists during their war for Independence, having donated a blanket to a patriot soldier. Sold estates within Hampshire County and removed further east, to the Kentucky Territory of Virginia. Settled southeastern Mason County, Kentucky territory, which later became Clark County, commonwealth of Kentucky. Inhabited Clark County until his death. Murdered by William Hardin.
! WILL is in Clark Co. Courthouse, pp. 240-259.
!WILL: Frederick County, Maryland, (A1)528-529.
!SOURCE: BRANDENBURG, E Craig:THE BRANDENBURG FAMILY [of] HARRISON CO, INDIANA, 1752-1980.
!SOURCE: FHC #6100121.
!SOURCE: Deatrich, B A:THE BRANDENBURG FAMILY, (Louisville, Kentucky, c.1950).
NATI: 1/2 Brother To Fredrick The 2ND Of Prussia

Father: Wilhelm Heinrich BRANDENBURG b: Abt 1722

Fredrick William, 1st king of Prussia

Re: Matthias von Brandenburg-Schwedt

Robin  (View posts) Posted: 16 Jul 2002 12:04AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Brandenburg
As I said, I went to about 70 websites, for Royals, and German.
Some only in German. I could set herefor a hour or two and
write them all down along with the book refer they had in some,
but I'm not going to. So here is a few, so some people, not you, will know I didn't make it up.
The Book "the Brandenburg family"
The book "Family trees to history that Europen States of, vol.4
by W.K. prince von Isenburg
Genealogy manual of Aristocracy, by Fuerstiche Hauser
Ancestors July IANA, Queen of the Netherlands -Jeerboek
Centraal office - genealogy - the Hague
L'Allemagne dynastique by Huberty, Giraud, Magdalaine
the Lineage & ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales
Edinburgh, 1977, by Gerald Paget
and on and on and on.
Also went on some German only church record sites.Am I going to pay for copies? no , with my large family and al it's branches, it would cost as much or more than the riches this little branch use to have.
Robin

Re: Matthias von Brandenburg-Schwedt

virginiaFinley900  (View posts) Posted: 16 Jul 2002 1:21AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Brandenburg
Robin: I am not trying to be difficult. I was seeking usable information on the sources and references. I am very certain you did not make it up. I have gone to these same sources for years and have found nothing.

Now, that you say you found the correct site, I was trying to get the "computer addresses" so all the Brandenburg researchers could find the same places you did. i.e.,
http://worldroots.com/brigitte/therohohenzollern.htm (The House of Hohenzollern)

No one certainly did not expect you to pay for copies. We just want to know the computer address so we can see the same information that you found and order the copies (even as a group effort).

THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION AND THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT WE CAN SEARCH TO FIND THIS VALUABLE INFORMATION. I AM SURE THERE WILL BE A NUMBER OF Brandenburg RESEARCHERS CHECKING THESE SITES OUT.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR HELP IN THE QUEST FOR THE "FATHER OF MATTHIAS Brandenburg, SPOUSE OF HESTER WALGAMOT".

I APOLOGIZE FOR UPSETTING YOU. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR HELP.

Re: Matthias von Brandenburg-Schwedt

virginiaFinley900  (View posts) Posted: 16 Jul 2002 3:20AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Brandenburg
Father: Wilhelm Heinrich BRANDENBURG b. Abt. 1722 (The brother of Matthias BRANDENBURG, born ca 1738 who married Hester Walgamot)

THIS Wilhelm Heinrich B. born Abt. 1722 did indeed have a son named "Mathias" BRANDENBURG, he was born 1763, lived in Maryland his whole life, married BARBARA KELLER December 16, 1787. Mathias & Barbara BRANDENBURG had 9 known children:
Frederick, 2/9/1788; Johannes 6/6/1789; Jacob 1/12/1792; Henry 1/12/1792; David 1/12/1795; Isaac 11/18/1796; Catherine 12/23/1798; Abraham 12/25/1800; Daniel 7/15/1804.
SOURCE REFERENCE: BRANDENBURG FAMILIES, "Our Marland Heritage, Book 8, W. N. Hurley, Jr; Published 1998, Heritage Books, Inc, 1540 E. Porter Ridge Place, Bowie, M.D.

The WILL recorder Frederick County, Maryland (A!)528-529 is the will of this Mathias BRANDENBURG.

The Will of Matthias BRANDENBURG who married Hester Walgamot is recorded in the Clark County Courthouse, Clark County, KY.
1807, Jan. 26: Order Book. Appointment of Administrator to Matthias Brandenburg's estate. Book 4, page 168.
1807, Mar. 21: Will Book. Inventory of Matthias Brandenburg's estate. Book 2, page 240-242.
1807, Apr. 11: Will Book. Inventory of sale of Matthias Brandenburg's estate. Book 2, page 259-260.

Matthias Brandenburgh and Hester Walgamot were married about 1764 and settled in Frederick County, Maryland. Here their first five children, Henry, Joseph, Elizabeth, David and Nancy, were born.Matthias and Hester's son Samuel was born after their move to the land in Patterson's Creek Manor (1774). The remainder of their children, Jonathan, Solomon, John, Sarah, Catherine, Absolom, Hester and Ruth, were all born in Hampshire County, Virginia.

The 1st King of Prussia was named Fredrick William BRANDENBURG.

-- The Corydon, Indiana "Democrat" and "The Republican" 1959 series called "Our Ancestors" compiled by B. A. Deatrick, 15 Park Row New York, NY. Mr. Deatrick did extensive reasearch of the BRANDENBURG Families but did not find proof of Royal lineage.

If you believe in the Royalty connection then - - - -
Matthias Brandenburg's (b.1738) grandfather Alfred was a half first cousin to Friedrich the Great of Prussia (1712-1786). Matthias' great grandfather was "The Great Elector", Friedrich William of BRANDENBURG (1620-1688).

I will when I have the time check out - and other researchers need to check out the computer sites

1)The book "Family trees t history that Europen States of, Vol. 4, by W. K. Prince von Isenburg.
2)Genealogy manual of Aristocracy, by Fuerstiche Hauser
3) Ancestors July IANA, Queen of the Netherlands - Jeerboek
Centraal office - genealogy - the Hague
4)L'Allemagne dynastique by Huberty, Giraud, Magdalaine
5) Lineaage & ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, by Gerald Paget

Maybe Matthias is now listed on one of these sites. NEED HELP IN SEARCHING THESE SITES FOR PROOF OF WHO IS THE FATHER OF Matthias (who married Hester Walgamot).

Re: Matthias von Brandenburg-Schwedt

Robin  (View posts) Posted: 16 Jul 2002 6:08AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Brandenburg
This should be fun, not work. It's the way you come across.
It's taking the fun out of it. I respect the fact that you have been looking for a long time and this area has been a brick wall. I have that wall with my dad's father, it's as if he fell off the face of the earth. So I walked away from it for awhile. I'll go back later and make it fresh again.
Fresh is good, instead of correcting and demanding, try helping.
I'm working with a cousin (probably 5th removed) that has also been at this longer than I. We have given each other what we have.
Gone over what doesn't fit, add the new we find, joke about things
and are having fun. Your thing about Matthias being Wilhelms brother fits better. Some of your info on Wilhelm doesn't go with what we have but give and take. I found that Albrecht had a daughter, that we didn't have before. I just let Jill known and we were happy to find her.
I found all kinds of places on church websites on Prussia
religious history that said that Fredrich the Great was a atheist.
So the story about Matthias and his brother and the Catholic
parade may be true or may not, but it didn't happen during the
rule of Fredrick the Great as told. It could have happened when his
nephew took over because he was Catholic. Alittle thing but it changes a whole story. Again, a fresh face on things. Maybe no one ever asked could it had happened when it says it did? Was Fredrich even
Catholic? Everyone seems to be focused on Mathias father, not on any little bits here and there. Maybe the little bits can get us there.
What ever, we are a family, we should work together, and what ever mistakes we made getting to the truth will be alright with
Matthias. I'm sure he'll just be proud that we are working as a family to find the truth -- and having fun.
Robin

Re: Matthias von Brandenburg-Schwedt

Bob Schneider  (View posts) Posted: 11 May 2003 7:32PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Brandenburg
I have read with great interest the many postings regarding Matthias Brandenburg and his brother Wilhelm Heinrich Brandenburg (b 1722 Germany, d 1796 Frederick Co MD). Wilhelm Heinrich Brandenburg is one of my ancestors. I also have another William Henry Brandenburg in my family tree. This William Henry Brandenburg was born in the early 1700's and had a daughter Elizabeth Brandenburg in Yates Co, New York in the mid-1700's. Does anyone have any information on William Henry Brandenburg?

Thanks,
Bob Schneider
BSchneider525@aol.com

Re: Matthias von Brandenburg-Schwedt

@@virginia.finley@bigfoot.com  (View posts) Posted: 12 May 2003 5:23PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: BRANDENBURG, Bussard, Gephart, Spielman
Wilhelm Heinrick Brandenburg, b. 8/24/1722, d. 3/24/1756 in Hampshire Co, VA or Friederick Co, MD, buried Old Lutheran Cemetery, Frederick, MD.had son >

William Henry Brandenburg, b. 10/8/1758, d. 10/2/1833 in New Carlisle, Clarke Co, OHio of cholera. He married Catherine Bussard. They had sons

William Henry Brandenburg b. 4/16/1785.
Henry T. Brandenburg born between 1804 - 1834, died 2/18/1871 in Montgomery County, OH, buried Old Shearer Cemetery, Montgomery Co, OH. He married Elizabeth Simon Gephart.

Wilhelm Heinrich Brandenburg, born 8/24/1722, died 3/24/1796 in Hampshire Co, VA or Frederick Co, MD. married Ann Catherine. They had 12 known children. Their daughter ELIZABETH was born abt. 1755 Frederick County, MD and died 1842 in Yates County, NY. She married David SPIELMAN, their daughter SOPHIA Brandenburg SPEELMAN born 2/7/1770 married Adolphus Eberhart; they had 11 known children.

Re: Matthias von Brandenburg-Schwedt

mineolamarg  (View posts) Posted: 26 Nov 2007 7:33AM GMT
Classification: Query
FROM EVERYTHING I AM TOLD THIS IS MY FAMILY. MY GRANDFATHER WAS JOHN MANSPERGER, GRANDMOTHER WAS EFFIE G. FISK ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THESE NAMES?

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