Brandt/Brant, John Andrew (1823-1884), relation to Chief Jospeh Brant?
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Brandt/Brant, John Andrew (1823-1884), relation to Chief Jospeh Brant?
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Posted: 2 Nov 2007 7:27PM GMT |
Classification: Query
Surnames: Brant/Brandt, Kuhn, Williams, Braun/Brown
Family lore has an ancestor related to Chief Joseph Brant. I have not been able to find any information so I was hoping someone might be able to help me. Here is what I have:
John Andrew Brant (legal name Andrew John Brant), b: 28-Jun-1823, Dunhep, Columbia County, NY; d: 2-Jun-1884, Manorton, Columbia County, NY, at age 61y 11m 3d; buried in Forest Hill Cemetery, Dunmore, Lackawanna Co., PA.
Claire McKarns did extensive research on this family, and here is a comment she posted in her LDS file:
"Oral history from Blanche Fairfield Fuhrmann: said he was a full blooded Indian, died before she was born (1902). Her cousin and brother told her the Brant family was related to Joseph Brant, Mohawk Indian Chief. He lived from 1743 to 1807 near Niagara, NY"
John Andrew Brant is the son of Christian Brant and Elizabeth Kuhn. Christian was born 11-Sep-1790 in NY and died in 1857.
Christian is the son of Johan Christian A Brant (parents unknown), born 1751 in Prussia, Germany. He died in 1831 in New Lebanon, Columbia Co., NY. He was a Hessian soldier. Came to America after 1775 to fight for the British. In 1777 he deserted. in 1778 he joined the American troops. About 1787, he married Margerit/Margaretha/Margaret Braun/Brown (b: about 1750, Ancram, Columbia, NY). I don't have any information on her family.
Elizabeth Kuhn, born about 17-May-1802, NY, died 12-Aug-1877, Scranton, Luzerne, PA, buried in Forest Hill Cemetery, Dunmore, Lackawanna, PA. She was married to Christian in 1822. Elizabeth was the daughter of Marcus Kuhn (b:19-Jun-1775, d:1818) and HeLena "Lena" Williams (b. 1763, d:1817). Marcus and HeLena were married 14-Jun-1801.
My problem is that I can't see a connection between someone born in Germany and an American Indian. I'm wondering if the relationship is not in the "Brant" male line, but maybe on of the wives' lines. I have also found records where the name is spelled "Brandt".
Sorry if this is longwinded. I would really appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks! Barb
John Andrew Brant (legal name Andrew John Brant), b: 28-Jun-1823, Dunhep, Columbia County, NY; d: 2-Jun-1884, Manorton, Columbia County, NY, at age 61y 11m 3d; buried in Forest Hill Cemetery, Dunmore, Lackawanna Co., PA.
Claire McKarns did extensive research on this family, and here is a comment she posted in her LDS file:
"Oral history from Blanche Fairfield Fuhrmann: said he was a full blooded Indian, died before she was born (1902). Her cousin and brother told her the Brant family was related to Joseph Brant, Mohawk Indian Chief. He lived from 1743 to 1807 near Niagara, NY"
John Andrew Brant is the son of Christian Brant and Elizabeth Kuhn. Christian was born 11-Sep-1790 in NY and died in 1857.
Christian is the son of Johan Christian A Brant (parents unknown), born 1751 in Prussia, Germany. He died in 1831 in New Lebanon, Columbia Co., NY. He was a Hessian soldier. Came to America after 1775 to fight for the British. In 1777 he deserted. in 1778 he joined the American troops. About 1787, he married Margerit/Margaretha/Margaret Braun/Brown (b: about 1750, Ancram, Columbia, NY). I don't have any information on her family.
Elizabeth Kuhn, born about 17-May-1802, NY, died 12-Aug-1877, Scranton, Luzerne, PA, buried in Forest Hill Cemetery, Dunmore, Lackawanna, PA. She was married to Christian in 1822. Elizabeth was the daughter of Marcus Kuhn (b:19-Jun-1775, d:1818) and HeLena "Lena" Williams (b. 1763, d:1817). Marcus and HeLena were married 14-Jun-1801.
My problem is that I can't see a connection between someone born in Germany and an American Indian. I'm wondering if the relationship is not in the "Brant" male line, but maybe on of the wives' lines. I have also found records where the name is spelled "Brandt".
Sorry if this is longwinded. I would really appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks! Barb
