Breda - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: train-metro cars--reply to Sylvia

RosePartheymuller2005 — 2012-05-18 23:41:07Z

the bredas were originally from sweden, norway or one of the other countries up north over there, mine are from italy next with merito breda being the 1st to be born state side
his father was born in italy
rose

Re: train-metro cars--reply to Sylvia

1_sherylsutton — 2012-05-18 01:22:10Z

I was told that my mother's side of the family came from Boerne France. Her ancestry imigrated because he wanted to marry a Baker's daughter and that was beneath his station. His father shipped him off to the United States. Once in the States he settled in Natchitoches, La. His name was Henri Breda I think. Mother always told me about her old aunts that would speak French when they wanted to gossip because they could gossip in front of others without them knowing what was said. She also said that almost all of her relatives were doctors, lawyers, politicians, and town founders. She had also talked about her family having owned slaves. She did say that in Natchitoches there had been a sextion of town called Bredaville or Bredatown. It was a black section of town. I believe they took the Breda name but am not sure. In Natchitoches, La the Bonnette, Hertzog, and Breda familes are related. Mother's father was a mail man. Mom was born in 1925 and passed in 2011. I have not done a lot of researching but thought this might help or be of interest to someone. Good luck.

Re: Who is Breda Lake named after? in Natchitoches, LA

EGTorno — 2011-11-07 07:20:35Z

When you found out about the concrete poetry, were you able to see it? I ask because his signature is at the bottom of both - I could send you a copy of them for you to compare the signature with one in his papers when you see them. I'd appreciate it if you could let me know if the signatures are the same. You can e-mail me privately at BTorno@charter.net if you want me to send a copy of the poems.

Betty

Re: Breda

veronique01 — 2011-10-05 18:11:15Z

Hi Steven,
Posted back an email years ago. My Breda family came from Concelves. Do you by any chance, have any family from there?
My personal email is: veronique01@hotmail.com
Veronique Breda

Re: train-metro cars--reply to Sylvia

veronique01 — 2011-10-05 18:07:32Z

Dear Sylvia,
I am responding to your email. My family Breda also came from Conselves, Coniglio I understand the family also were in the train business, though I have not too much infos regarding their pasts. If you wish to compare notes please email me at veronique01@hotmail.com

Veronique Breda

Re: Who is Breda Lake named after? in Natchitoches, LA

jandmbreda — 2011-10-01 15:03:24Z

Yea, one was a bottle (bouteille) and the other a friendly drink (Buvons, amis). I would not be surprised at all if the good doctor employed some of that brandy in his practice. JP's papers are at LSU. I wonder if your Francois is mentioned in them.

Re: Who is Breda Lake named after? in Natchitoches, LA

EGTorno — 2011-10-01 14:37:18Z

After I sent my reply I looked at previous statements about a vineyard. That certainly could relate to the concrete poetry, couldn't it? Wish that they had correspondence with each other which is still in existence. There are many ads in old Philadelphia newspapers indicating that Gabriel had received a new shipment of brandy, etc. from La Rochelle, France.

Betty

Re: Who is Breda Lake named after? in Natchitoches, LA

jandmbreda — 2011-10-01 00:18:32Z

Cool enough. I'll get to sniffin' around on my end.

Thanks!

Re: Who is Breda Lake named after? in Natchitoches, LA

EGTorno — 2011-09-30 22:05:39Z

I don't know if I have the right to do that - it is in the "Garesché Family Album" owned by Special Collections at the University of Michigan. There are actually two poems in the album, called concrete poems because they are in the shape of things. One is a bottle, the other a fancy drinking glass. My cousin, François Gabriel Garesché, imported brandy and other things to Philadelphia in the early 19th century and these two poems are in his family's album. They are in French. You can find the album listed in that library if you Google Garesché - that's where I found it. Can't figure out who in the family would have sold it.

Re: Who is Breda Lake named after? in Natchitoches, LA

jandmbreda — 2011-09-30 21:21:10Z

Betty, could you share the poem?

Thanks!

Re: Who is Breda Lake named after? in Natchitoches, LA

jandmbreda — 2011-06-16 01:40:43Z

I wouldn't rule it out. The only thing I've ever seen that he signed was the land title in Shreveport, and he used his full name on that document. He might have only used Philippe on a less formal document. Or maybe it was a sibling? I honestly have no idea. I do know that there were (and are) a lot of "Bredas" in the New York/New Jersey area, too, up there in the northeast, but they were (are) mostly Dutch.

Re: Who is Breda Lake named after? in Natchitoches, LA

EGTorno — 2011-06-15 01:30:09Z

I'm sorry - I did not mean to give the impression that Philippe Breda lived in Philly. I think he had signed the book of a friend or acquaintance - people traveled all over that area a lot in those days and Baltimore is not far away at all. So I was curious about his name. It seems that many of my French relatives went by their middle names and I thought perhaps Philippe did also.

Re: Who is Breda Lake named after? in Natchitoches, LA

jandmbreda — 2011-06-14 23:56:43Z

Jean Philippe was an MD, he got his license in Baltimore after arriving from France. I don't know if the Philippe Breda in Phili is the same guy, but it's the right time period. Maybe a sibling? Maybe the same guy? I'm not sure. It's the right time period, though. One of these days I'm going to dig into the Breda Papers at LSU to see some of the letters.
Here's a link I found about Breda Town that confirms the origin was the old vinyard:
http://winhttp.nsula.edu/regionalfolklife/civilwartocivilrig...

Re: Who is Breda Lake named after? in Natchitoches, LA

EGTorno — 2011-06-14 12:52:45Z

I recently saw a signature in a family book from Philadelphia and it looks like Philippe Breda. Did he ever sign his name without the Jean? The book is like an autograph book, but with larger poems and drawings, so I understand it's called a memory album. The Breda poem is not dated, but the dates on other items in the book are 1827 - about 1841.

Thank you,
Betty Torno

Re: Breda family tree- northern Italy

dbreda135 — 2011-01-01 21:27:55Z

HI MY NAME IS DINO BREDA, I WAS BORN IN NORTHERN ITALY AND CAME TO CANADA WITH FATHER 1954 & MOTHER IN 1956. FATHER IS QUINTIO BREDA AND HIS FATHER VETORIO BREDA (SPELLING MAY NOT BE RIGHT) WE CAME FROM SMALL TOWN JUST OUTSIDE OF SPILIMBERGO WHICH IS CLOSE TO UDINE IN NORTHERN ITALY, I KNOW MY FATHER HAD 3 BROTHERS AND 4 SISTER, AND HIS FATHER HAD LARGE FAMILY I BELIEVE TEN CHILDREN, MY FATHER PASSED AWAY FEW YEARS AGO SO CAN'T ASK ANY QUESTION. BUT I KNOW ONE OF HIS BROTHERS LIVES JUST OUTSIDE OF PARIS AND ANOTHER IN SWITZERLAND, WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT FAMILY IN ITALY. MY MOM IN TOUCH WITH SOME AUNT & UNCLE BUT OLD AGE AND POOR MEMORY HARD TO FIND INFO THANKS DINO

Re: Who is Breda Lake named after? in Natchitoches, LA

JerryGray2006 — 2010-04-12 03:17:06Z

Dr. John Breda...a MD who moved to Natchitoches from France.

Re: Breda name origins?

pisceanmate — 2010-02-10 17:20:16Z

The van Breda family in South Africa arrived in +-1719 from Sas-van-Gent in the Netherlands. The town of Bredasdorp (means Breda's Town) was established in about 1838 after Michiel van Breda donated money to build a church around which the town formed.
The van Breda coat-of-arms in South Africa is apparently derived from that of the town of Breda.

Breda and Marcantonio families, Turrivalignani, Pescara, Italy

TCT222 — 2010-01-10 14:16:58Z

Found another generation....
Maria Breda, b. March 26, 1855, Turrivalignani was the daughter of Raffaele Breda and Liberata Marcantonio. If anyone has any additional information, please email me at tomasellitracy@sbcglobal.net. Thank you.

Breda family - Turrivalignani, Italy

tct222|M49629 — 2009-09-12 19:34:31Z

Hello

I am interested in finding out more information regarding my great great grandmother, Maria Breda who married in 1877 Emidio Placido in Turrivalignani, Pescara, Abruzzo, Italy. They had at least 6 children (I think): Santa (my great grandmother b. 1881), Paolo who moved to Agawam, MA, Alfred, Fedele, Giorgio and another son who went to Spain.

There is also a Villa Breda very close (or part of) Turrivalignani

Please email me at tomasellitracy@sbcglobal.net if you have any information re: Breda family.

Thank you.

Re: Looking for relatives

ericpaulbreda — 2009-08-18 17:27:18Z

My father's grandfather imigrated to Elis Island in 1920 post 1st World War (the Great War as it was then known)from Ausria were he was born through Romania with his Romanian wife. I know very litle as I did not know my Great Grandfather Joseph Breda and his son my Grandfather Paul E Breda Jr died when I was young. I have had a hard time prying anything from my father, as it seems there is a lack of information on where he came in Austria. He fought for the Kaiser in the first World War. I'm guessing he immigrated by less than legitimate means, as no record exists of him through Elis Island.

Re: Breda name origins?

NorbertoBreda — 2009-07-24 14:16:22Z

Olá! Eu herdei da minha Avó Idalina Breda (Arazede, perto de Cantanhede) este nome, e na pesquisa que fiz com a Igreja Mormon, nomeadamente através do imenso registo de nascimentos e óbitos, em microfilme (com base na Alemanha), a origem, de facto, parece seguir na direcção da Holanda. De facto, até as famílias que provêm do Norte da Itália, mais identificada com a região povoada por povos oriundos no Norte da Europa, como ricos mercadores e negociantes, ao tempo da Liga Hanseática, parecem ter sido descendentes de artesãos ligados à indústria têxtil ou ao comércio, tão característicos do povo holandês. Em termos de características fisionómicas, a minha avó, tia-avó e o meu bisavô todos eles tinham ou têm olhos azuis ou verdes e de tez clara. Continuo a pesquisar entretanto.

Re: Breda name origins?

NorbertoBreda — 2009-07-24 14:04:52Z

I am Portuguese as well and my family name is Breda. Doing some research on the origin of the name with the Mormon Church (microfilms) registry of deaths and births, I have found that it came from the Netherlands. You can find a lot of people with this name in Holland and South Africa. And in Brasil as Dutch immigrants. As you know, there is a city with this name in the south part of the Netherlands and a village in South Africa (Breda dorp). There are some dutch families who migrated to Australia, in Melbourne, whith this name. And in the USA as well.

Re: Norweigan Breda

NorbertoBreda — 2009-07-24 13:28:13Z

Hi Jon!
I'm not Italian, Dutch, French, Spanish, but Portuguese. The family name Breda came from my Grand-mother and Father! I started a deep search of my origin with the Mormon Church registry and all the information I have found about this name was, in fact, from the Netherlands. Should be nice to understand from where, exactly, in Holland, it came from! Anyway, I am proud of this name and to pass it to my children!
Best regards,
Norberto

Re: Who is Breda Lake named after? in Natchitoches, LA

JerryGray820 — 2009-07-06 19:24:24Z

According to 'Old Natchitoches Parish Magazine' # 100:
Cota Breda: Natchitoches' First Winery?
Email me for more details, if you need to.

Re: Breda family origins

veronique01 — 2009-05-05 15:35:12Z

Hi Joe,
I am a Breda and come from France, I was born in Poitiers, but my father was born in Divion Pas de Calais. Family in Parthenay, Poitiers, et le sud de la france.
Veronique Breda
mon email est veronique01@hotmail.com

Re: Breda family tree- northern Italy

veronique01 — 2009-05-05 14:55:54Z

Hi Giuliana,
I had stopped looking for years.... as impossible to get infos from the Breda side family with all wrong informations. I finally found out that My Grand mother was Fortunata Tomiazzo and Luigi Breda born in Conselve (consalve or Consalvo) San Pietro de Viminario in Padova. They came by boat (I think not in Marseille, but in Pas de Calais North of France) Supposedly they were other members that went to the US. storry goes they had not enough papers to continue to the USA) I know that my ant Maria Breda was born in St. Pietro on 6/28/1914 arrived in France around 1923 with parents. My father Marco Breda was born in Divion France. Other brothers are: Giovani, Angelo, Antonio, Vittorio, Chrlo Breda. I do not have too much, have names of cousins in France, but like I said they are not to eager about family ancestry like I am. If anyone has any infos, my private email address is veronique01@hotmail.com

Veronique Breda (living in NJ)

Re: Breda family tree- northern Italy

victoriabreda1 — 2009-03-15 18:19:57Z

i'm a breda but my family is from friuli- pordenonne- my grandfather is guiseppe breda and he had 3 brothers and 3 sisters...any connection? my grandfather and his brother landed in halifax and then moved to toronto were most of us now live

Re: Aurora Breda/Green

kjbre55 — 2009-01-26 23:01:03Z

I am Aurora Breda's youngest daughter Kathy Breda. My last name is still Breda and I live in Troy. Contact me if you still want geneology information. I'm in the phone book. I have a lot of it.

Re: Joseph E Breda/Nellie Harrison-LA IL

jandmbreda — 2007-05-25 23:41:40Z

I think we're kinfolk.
If your Joseph E was son to Joseph Ernest, husband of Elsie Herzog, and son of Jean Philippe, then we're cousins.
My Joseph E was the son of Joseph Ernest, who was brother to Jean Emile, my great grandfather.

Re: Who is Breda Lake named after? in Natchitoches, LA

jandmbreda — 2007-05-25 23:28:34Z

Breda Lake is where, I believe, my great great great grandfather had his vinyard, Cote de Breda.
Jean Philippe Breda came to Baltimore in 1830 and moved to Shreveport in 1835 and Natchitoches in 1838. The property he bought was, I think, on the coast of that lake you point out. His son, Joseph Ernest, and he planted a vinyard that was destroyed a couple of times in the '60s. Joseph Ernest is buried in the Breda/Herzog cemetery. He died in 1914. Jean Philippe's papers can be found in the reference section of the LSU library.

Re: Looking for relatives

jandmbreda — 2007-05-25 23:19:26Z

I know this thread is old and dusty, but my Bredas are French--from the town of Verdun.
As I understand it, when Holland was taken over by the protestants, the Catholic Bredas went to the far corners of Catholicdom, including Spain, Italy, France, Switzerland, Austria, Brazil, Argentina, and Louisiana. My Bredas came to Natchitoches, LA by way of Maryland in the 1830s.
There are a TON of Bredas in the New York/New Jersey area--from the Dutch heritage of the region. I also understand the Italian Bredas have their names on the backs of trains and a Dutch construction company builds roads.

Re: Norweigan Breda

2006-11-09 20:27:27Z

Yes... I'm Norweigan... But I'm also your cousin... So I guess this doesn't count... Weird how we go to alot of the same sites!

Norweigan Breda

2006-09-21 00:27:59Z

Hi, my name is Jon Breda. I'm not Italian, Dutch, French, Spanish or any. My surname comes from my ancestors coming from Norway. I'm sure they originally came from the Netherlands and just ended up in Norway. Not positive though. I know my family has been fishermen for many years. I was wondering if there are any other Norweigan Bredas out there, besides my relatives.

Joseph E Breda/Nellie Harrison-LA IL

ArizonaGal411 — 2006-07-10 19:55:39Z

Looking for descendants of above. Believe they had at least one son, Vernon born in 1918 in Alexandria, LA who later lived in Chicago and was a pianist. Any information appreciated. Thanks in advance! Please contact me e-mail at: loriknut@earthlink.net

Re: Steven Mark Breda, Jr.

RosePartheymuller2005 — 2006-06-02 01:42:31Z

Happy Birthday
I have not forgotten every thing you have said to me and about me.
I would just like to wish you a happy birthday that is all.
Rose

Minnie Breda of N.Y., c1875 - 1904

BasketLady420 — 2006-03-17 23:36:42Z

BREDA, Minnie, 29 years, of 150 North Ninth street, Brooklyn, is listed among the dead on The General Slocum, a steamship that burned in the East River in New York City on June 15, 1904.

I am not related to this family, just passing on this information, which comes from a website called "List of General Slocum victims" The link for the site is listed below.
Joyce

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/List_of_General_Slocum_victims

Re: Breda name origins?

2005-11-15 12:18:55Z

Cintia,

O que referes faz de facto sentido e além disso é novo para mim, pois eu não tinha qualquer pista sobre a origem do nome em Portugal.

Já agora por curiosidade, sabes como é que o teu pai consegui obter estas pistas sobre o nome Breda em Portugal? Procurou em algum arquivo? Foi na internet?

Se preferisres podes escrever directamente para o meu endereço de e-mail que é jpbreda@soporcel.pt
assim evitamos ter que passar pelo site.

Re: Breda name origins?

2005-11-15 11:17:26Z

João,

Também tenho familia na zona de mortágua, mais concretamente em macieira. Não sei porém se é daí que vem o Breda mas penso que sim, pois são parentes dos meus visavós.
Quanto à origem do Breda em Portugal, como eu já tinha referido anteriormente, o meu pai fez umas pesquisas e chegou à conclusão que o mais certo é o Breda ter a sua origem em Itália. É que na época da emigração para os EUA estes emigrantes italianos vieram até à peninsula ibérica para embarcar devido a algumas deficuldades na Itália. Porém muitos não o conseguiram fazer e acabaram por ficar por cá. Isto nos anos 1800s. Mas é tudo um pouco incerto pois o que existe são apenas alguns registos de italianos Breda que embarcam em embarcações com origem em Portugal, daí as suposições.

O que faz algum sentido, pois o nome Breda é muito recente em Portugal. O que achas?

Re: Breda name origins?

2005-11-14 18:26:08Z

Olá Cintia,

Eu e a grande maioria da minha família somos de Coimbra, no entanto penso que ainda tenho uns primos afastados que são de Mortágua.

Pelo que sei, acho que não existe nenhum parentesco directo entre a minha família e os Breda da Mealhada, mas na zona onde moro existe uma outra família Breda que penso ter ramificações na Mealhada.

Pelo que consegui perceber, a maioria das pessoas com o nosso nome descendem de alguma forma de antepassados italianos e estão espalhadas por todo o mundo (Brasil, EUA, Italia, etc.).

Descobri também algumas curiosidades relacionadas com o nosso nome. Assim, para além da cidade de Breda na Holanda, existiu também uma localidade portuguesa chamada Breda situada na zona de Mortágua/Santa Comba Dão. Quando a barragem da Aguieira foi construída, esta localidade ficou submersa.

Tens mais alguma informação sobre os Breda em Portugal?

Re: Breda name origins?

2005-11-14 16:32:05Z

ola joão,

é curioso o seu nome, pois eu chamo-me cintia pedro breda. sou da mealhada e o joão? o meu pai fez uma pesquisa e chegou à conclusão que o mais certo é o breda ser oriundo da italia mas são apenas suposições.

aguardo resposta.

Re: Breda name origins?

2005-11-14 10:17:55Z

Olá,

Uma vez que somos ambos portugueses, não vale a pena estarmos a escrever em inglês!

Em relação à origem do nome, penso que há 2 hipóteses possíveis. De facto uma das hipóteses é a proveniência italiana, mas existe também a possibilidade de o nome ter origem holandesa, nomeadamente da cidade de Breda no sul da Holanda.
Não sei de qual dos ramos é que os Breda em Portugal são originários...

Já agora de que região de Portugal é que és? Eu sou de Coimbra, mas sei da existência de outras famílias Breda na região centro, nomeadamente na Mealhada, Águeda e Santa Comba Dão.

Re: Breda name origins?

2005-11-11 22:57:26Z

hi i´m from portugal and my name is breda too. i believe from several reserches that it´s origin is italian.

Re: Steven Mark Breda, Jr.

2005-11-02 19:32:13Z

YOU SOLD HIM OUT. You are the apitomy o the unfit mother. I regret the day I ever met you. And for your info When I came to TX I came for him nor you. I only told you I loved you so I could get close to him. How could anyone love someone as fat and Ugly as you

Re: Steven Mark Breda, Jr.

RosePartheymuller2005 — 2005-11-02 15:09:49Z

I settled for $20,000 to pay for the bills of his death and the police and the investigators and the lawyers all agree that is was an accident when he died. If you want to start we can start something.

Re: Steven Mark Breda, Jr.

2005-11-02 14:19:24Z

Yep And His mother sold him out. settled for 10,000.00 and relived the driver of any wrong doing. Amazing what some poeple will do

Breda/Green

2005-09-09 20:57:34Z

Looking for info on my father Herman Green's sister,Aroura (Aunt Babe) Breda. I know she lived in Troy NY And had at least 2 daughters. Barbara & Debbie. I am desperate for info on my fathers family & everywhere I look turns out to be a dead end! Thanks

Breda family members

RosePartheymuller2005 — 2005-06-24 14:45:30Z

Looking for Steven Mark Breda, Sr.
Son Steven Mark Breda, Jr. is interested in
his father's side of the family.

Steven Mark Breda, Jr.

RosePartheymuller2005 — 2005-06-24 14:45:30Z

Steven died on 09-05-2004, pronounced dead at 11:50pm at the scene of the accident in Killeen, TX. Steven was hit by a chevy s-10 sunday night on his way home from Hastings where he bought some of magazines he was interested in and rented some videos to watch.

Re: Breda Family History

2005-05-18 19:05:38Z

Hi Steven,

I think we are related on my dad's side. My dad Luigi Pagotto born in Azzano Decimo 1933. His grandfather was Luigi Pagotto born in either Gaiarine or Girano in 1864> His grandfather's parents were Marco Pagotto and Maria Breda from Gaiarine- for sure. Maria Breda died in Azzano Decimo in 1903. My dad always referred to the Breda's as his 1st cousins. We lived in Toronto.

Do you have more info than this?

Sandra

Re: Looking for relatives

2005-04-18 15:46:14Z

Sorry this Tony lived in the San Antonio,Texas area as far as I can find--He was in ww2 and the last time that I saw him was in 1963 at my grandmothers funeral in san antonio--he was from Italy and came over with my grandfather(I think)--Martha Klar