I just asked my father - in - law about his father and grandfather. He says his father John Patrick Breen was born around 1893 that he had "lots" of brothers and sisters. Maimie , Catherine and Jimmy - who died of the flu around WW1(1919?)were the only names he could come up with right then.John Patricks father was named Michael Patrick. who was born "the year after Mrs. Murphys barn burnt down " hmmm... I will have to check that one out ! Anyhow , I am not discouraged since we are searching the same area geographically , I am sure someone common is there at some point !