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Re: edward bumpas-hannah annable

LindaJae22 — 2012-04-24 04:43:14Z

bjh225:
I agree and have removed everything ANNABLE from my tree. I have Edward Bumpus's spouse Hannah as "Hannah Unknown" until further notice from a real documented discovery that changes "Unknown" to her real maiden name. (Indian name I'm hoping)! This has been a very informative forum. Thank you all for your contributions. They have been very much appreciated.
LindaJae

Re: edward bumpas-hannah annable

LindaJae22 — 2012-04-24 04:33:35Z

Karen - Crafty27:
Do you have copies of the paperwork your mother's sister was given that someone in the family traced that you metnioned? If so, I would like to review it please.
LindaJae

Re: Bumpus from Marshfield Records

bjh1225 — 2012-03-27 11:54:48Z

Edward Bumpass is listed as a passenger on the Ship Fortune.
Do a Google search for the list in Nov 1621. This was the next ship after the Mayflower that brought Pilgrims to Plymouth, MA.

Bumpus from Marshfield Records

miriamhughes — 2012-03-27 11:54:15Z

Edward Bompasse came on Fortune in 1621. ( Note: not proven. "35 of the Leyden Pilgrims came in that ship and all know there were many Huguenots among the number gathered in the old Dutch town from Mina P Hayden Rose Family at Maine Historical Society)

.March 1633 Edward Bumpus taxed 9 shillings (History of Plymouth County William T Davis 974.44) Plymouth Colony Court orders July 1 1633, "That Capt Stamdish mow the end of the ground belong to Edward Bumpasse & Will Latham. 1633 Plymouth Colony inventory of John Thorp deceased: Indian corn that Edw Bumpas oweth 6 bushels at 6 shr bush and John Thorp debtor to Edward Bumpasse for nursing his child. 1635 court records " John Washbourne hasth bought of Edward Bompass his house & padisado, standing of his late lot of ground which he had by William Palmers, beyond the creek called Eagle-Nest, for this he is to receive a goat. 1637 in court orders 40 acres are granted to Philip Delanoy, lying on Duxborrow side, ranging in length east and west and breath north and south, having the marsh at far end of Duxborrow lying on the north, lands of John Alden on south, sea on east, and lands of Edward Bumpass on the west.1638 court records, Robert Carver granted 20 acres on the northwest side of Greenes Harbor River and a garden place upon Stoney River near Edward Bumpasse(meadow land 6 July 1640). 1648 will of William Launders : of Edward Bumpas 4s in corn if it please god I die this sickness I freely give it to him. 1651 will of William Thomas: I give to Edward Bumpase a bushell of wheate. Freeman list 1643 Marshfield, Plymouth printed records p.196. The following from Marshfield town meeting records. 27 Sept 1643 That Robert Carver, John Rouse, Edward Bumpus, Edward Winslow & families be under the guard under the command of the said Edward Winslow. 18 Oct 1643 John Rouse and Edward Bumpus had a grant of the island called Wood Island to them & their heirs forever. 10 April 1645 Rouse doth acknowledge that he hath sold to Edward Bumpus & his heirs forever, the Island formerly granted to said John Rouse & Edward Bumpus. 19 Aug 1645 Edward fined for not making meeting. 18 Feb 1646/47 30 shillings for present relief of Edward Bumpus. 23 Oct 1648 old cow & calf to Edward Bumpus provided he use them well. Feb 1648/9 20 bushells of corn for the relief of Edward Bumpus. 24 May 1652 town cattle "poorstock" to Goodman Bumpus, Goodman Perry & John Thomas. 8 Nov 1652 Edward Bumpus to have town cow for 4 years. 28 March 1653 Edward Bumpus desired a parcel of meadow at meeting held 30 Jan 1650 & John Rouse was to share with him in it, therefore, the towns men have granted to Edward & John Rouse the said meadow lying next to the meadow of Edward Winslow by Careswell Meadow(near Duck Hill) to have & enjoy to them & heirs forever provided that if the said Edward Bumpus & John Rouse shall depart the town, the other shall pay 10 shillings for his right. 9 Mar 1656 20 bushels of corn to Edward Bumpus. 15 Mar 1657/58 4 bushels & 11/2pecks of corn to Edward Bumpus. 24 Feb 1661/2 corn for Edward Bumpus. Joseph Biddle of Marshfield in 17 April 1671, will "to Edward Bumpas Senr". 10 Jan 1682/83 Seth Arnold shall take in Edward Bumpus & wife. John Rouse will grind Bumpus corn. 21 May 1683 Christopher Winter agree to care for Edward Bumpus & wife removing them from town care. 14 August 1683 The inhabaints have voted that Chrisopher Winter shall demand & receive into his custody the goods of Edward Bumpus & his wife which is at the Joseph Rose's. Their bedding, clothes and what is theirs only for the said persons to enjoy for their comfort & benefit during their lives and Edward & his wife shall have power at their death to dispose of what is left of it to any their children or otherwise as they care.

From History of Plymouth by William T. Davis: March 1633 Edward Bumpus taxed 9 shillings

Re: edward bumpas-hannah annable

LindaJae22 — 2012-03-27 11:52:33Z

Doing more reading and research I believe many are confusing the two Hannah Annables. There is Hannah Annable
b 1602 "sister" of Anthony Annable (she is the one that is said to have married Edward Bumpus) that came with her brother Anthony to America with his wife and one daughter Sarah. Then there is Hannah Annable b 1625 Anthony's second child but first born in America. I found she seems to be the one that married Thomas Bowerman m 1643/44. Because Edward & Hannah Bumpas's first child was born 1631. When your Hannah that married Thomas was 6 yrs old. Seems everyone is mixing dates and confusing the Hannah's. It's still very possible our Hannah Bumpus is still just HANNAH (Indian), a 3rd Hannah and has no connection to the ANNABLES. They are just connecting Edward's Hannah because of her name being Hannah. I understand Indian's when marrying white they took white names and if she was Indian she liked and chose the name Hannah. So the Hannah that married Edward is either Anthony's sister or an Indian maiden that took the name Hannah. The search is still on! It may be easier to search real documents (and not "he said she said") and find what happened to Hannah Annable, Anthony's sister for real to finally rule her out. Need to find who she married or what happened to her. Need to get her off our charts. Very good to hear Edouad/Edward's wife's maiden name cant be found-to me that is good news. Just makes our belief stronger his wife was an Indian Maiden.

Re: edward bumpas-hannah annable

bjh1225 — 2012-03-27 11:50:11Z

Edward Bumpass did NOT marry Hannah Annabel. It is proven that she married Thomas Bowerman. The records ONLY show that Edouad Bompasse's wife was named Hannah.......and no surname is known for her. If you insist as listing her as his wife, then you do so in error.

There have been many researchers that have tried to find the maiden name of Edouad Bompasse but there is no record for her.

Re: edward bumpas-hannah annable

crafty27 — 2012-03-27 11:49:11Z

Hi,
I found Deckard-Alberts tree it links my grandmother
Lillian Bump to Edward and Hannah. I am working with
geneologists fo join the Daughters of The American
Revolution and while doing the lineage back to that
point I became interested in Anthony Annable and Jane Mumford parents of Hannah Annable (married Edward Bompasse).
I found Anthony Annable and William in an english family tree. It went back to Mathiev De Lorraine marriage to Bertha Von Hohenstaufen. Put William annable is search box
you will find http://WWW.dianenet.com/familytree/york/aqwg334.htm
It goes back to Frederick III "barbaross" Holy Roman Emperor in 1122. follow his childred to Phillip II Holy Roman Emperor then it goes to Mathieu de lorraine and bertha
then to Anthony Annable, his childred William Annable down the line.

Re: edward bumpas-hannah annable

bjh1225 — 2012-03-26 20:00:13Z

I just read the passenger list for the ship Anne and Little James. It left London, England with Master William Pierce and arrived in Plymouth,MA in June or July 1623.
List of passengers included these:
ANNABLE, Anthony from Cambridge, bound for Plymouth.
Settled in Scituate.
ANNABLE, Jane Mumford, his wife
ANNABLE, Sarah his daughter
ANNABLE, Hannah his daughter.

No other person listed with that surname.

Re: edward bumpas-hannah annable

bjh1225 — 2012-03-26 19:36:49Z

There is no record that shows that Edward Bumpass married Hannah Annabel. Many research hours have been spent trying to find his wife's maiden name by excellent researchers. Regardless of what your family papers show he did not marry a woman with the maiden name of Hannah Annabel. Had he married an Indian woman then it surely would be in the records. Edward was a young man when he arrived on the ship Fortune in Nov 1621. They have estimated that he was probably 16 yrs old.
If you will read the records you will be able to see when he was granted land and cattle.

My ancestor, William Bumpass, did serve in the Rev War and drew a pension for his service.

Re: edward bumpas-hannah annable

miriamhughes — 2012-03-26 19:25:18Z

Where did you find that Edward's wife was Native American? This I never have found in 20 years of research. Is Hannah the daughter of Edward & Hannah who was sent out of town along with her "pimp"? Marshfield printed records are online. I would suggest that you order the films of town records from LDS if you have not done so. I cannot read them now-too old, me not the films.

Re: edward bumpas-hannah annable

LindaJae22 — 2012-03-26 18:05:44Z

In my research I found the English Hannah Annable b 1602 and her "brother" Anthony Annable b 1599, his wife Jane Momford and one daughter came over together on the Anne. Her father is William 1573-1614 and mother is Hannah Barker or Baker 1575-1615 both died a year apart when Hannah was young. I'll look for male relatives of my GGGrandmother Tabatha Bumpus b 1831 (my connection) and see if any of them did DNA. Thank you for the encouragement to keep looking by reminding me that many still have this question about Hannah. I'll keep you all posted if I find something significant.

Re: edward bumpas-hannah annable

crafty27 — 2012-03-26 02:27:16Z

There are rumors in my tree also going back to Edward
Bompasse that married Hannah. I am linked from him. Karen

Re: edward bumpas-hannah annable

crafty27 — 2012-03-26 02:25:12Z

I am researching the Bump, Bumpus,Bumpas and Bompasse.
My family has old papers on Edward Bompasse ,his parents
were John Bompasse and Ann Brodforde. I researching
the Barnstable families and all early settlers of Plymouth.
Evidently my Edward landed on the Fortune in 1621.
He married Hannah Annable. Her parents were Anthony Annable and Jane Momford. I traced a lot thru the Deckart-Alberts
family tree on Ancestory .com It linked to my grandmother.
My mom is 93 and gave me the old papers that her mom's sister was given that someone in the family traced. Maybe
were long lost relatives. Who knows. I have geneologist helping me trace the one's back to the American Revolution so I can belong to the Daughters of the American Revolution.
Good luck on yours. Karen

Re: Moses Bumpas(s)

vonnagw — 2010-06-10 16:54:57Z

My great grandmother was Lizzie Bumpass married to Louis Bumpass. They had two children that I know of for sure, Edna H. Bumpass Wilson and Louis Bumpass Jr. Edna married William Thomas Wilson Jr., they had 4 children, Charlotte Bradley, Wayne Wilson (deceased 1959 auto accident), Ronald Lee Wilson, Abe Wilson. I am the daughter of Wayne Wilson.
Any information would be most helpful

BUMPAS Ida Morris and Cody V

t42RoseHill — 2009-07-06 02:35:56Z

BUMPAS Ida Morris and Cody V

I photographed this gravestone in the (Shannon) Rose Hill Cemetery, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 204,880 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com .

If you know more about this person please reply here,instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

A Question For The Bumpas Experts

mhallett144 — 2009-02-01 22:53:42Z

Who are the parents of Nancy Bumpass (1824 – 1900)?

Nancy Bumpass was born Feb 10, 1824 in North Carolina, exact location unknown. The first record of Nancy occurs with the marriage bond of Richard Baker bearing the notation of his marriage to Nancy Bumpass in November 1849 at Edgecombe County, NC. She next appears in the 1850 U.S. census for Nash County, NC with her husband, Richard Baker.

Nancy has been identified by other researchers as the daughter of John Bumpas and Martha Etheridge. However, to date we have been unable to find definitive documentation of this relationship.

There is a John Bumpas listed in the 1840 U.S. census for Nash County who is of the age group 70-80. He has one female of the proper age group (10-15) to be Nancy. There are two males (15–20 and a female (40–50) also reported. We are unable to locate him in the 1850 census.

Documentation of the marriage between John Bumpas and Martha Etheridge exists in a number of sources. The will of Caleb Etheridge probated in 1826 identifies a daughter Martha as the wife of John Bumpers. The marriage appears in the Ancestry.com database Edgecombe County Vital Records (1720-1880), and is also recorded in “Ten Generations of The Etheredge – Etheridge – Ethridge Family of America”, Compiled by Fae Alice Etheredge and Ema Lee Etheredge Tipton.

There is a will written Oct 11, 1849 and proven November 1855 in Edgecombe County for John Bumpas. The will identifies daughters Phebre, Mary, Martha, wife Martha, and son John W Bumpas (as executor). This will is consistent with a marriage to Martha Etheridge, but poses a problem with regards to Nancy in that she is not mentioned.

Some researchers report that Martha Etheridge was the second wife of John Bumpas. There are records dated 1800 in Halifax County of a John Bumpas as married to a Sarah Crawley, widow of Aires Jones Crawley. These records pertain to the settlement of the Crawley estate and appear in "Abstracts of Deeds, Halifax County, North Carolina 1802-1807". If this is the same John Bumpas and Sarah was his first wife, she must have died prior to 1826 when John is known to have been married to Martha Etheridge. However, we are left with the possibility of a small window in time where Sarah could have been the mother of Nancy Bumpass.

While the birth of Nancy in 1824 appears consistent with the marriage of John Bumpas & Martha Etheridge in that the marriage occurred prior 1826 (Caleb Etheridge will) and lasted until after 1849 (John Bumpas will), there is no proof of Nancy as their daughter. Indeed, there is a chance that Nancy is the daughter of John Bumpas and Sarah Crawley. All we can say is that the timeline is consistent with either scenario.

To confuse things further, the Marriage & Death Notices from the Wilmington, NC Tri-Weekly Commercial (Thurs 27 Sept 1855) that states John Bumpas died on Sept 17, 1855 in Nash County, at the reported age of 98 years. It was also reported that his wife Nancy died one day later at the age of 90 years. If these are all the same John Bumpas, then there is a third wife Nancy, last name unknown. For all this to be true, Martha Etheridge would have to die after 1849 when John wrote his will in Edgecombe County, and well before 1855 when he is shown as married to Nancy LNU. Again, all we can say is that the timelines appear consistent with the scenario but we are no closer to proving the parentage of Nancy Bumpass.

We have a bit more on Nancy Bumpass herself. She was the mother to six children; Laura (1851 – 1910), Mary Frances (1853 – 1922), John Henry (1855 – 1938), Martha Ann (1857 – 1947), James Carter (1859 – 1931), and Richard Walter (1870 – 1953). The family appears to have always lived in the area of Whitakers, NC and records appear in both Nash and Edgecombe counties. Her husband, Richard Baker died in 1875 at Whitakers, NC. In 1886, Nancy divided up a 25 acre plot giving each of her six children a plot of a little over 4 acres. Nancy died Jan 28, 1900. Nancy, Richard Baker and their children are all buried in the Baker family cemetery on Fisher Road, Whitakers, NC.

So, back to the original problem; who were the parents of Nancy Bumpass? Are they John Bumpas & Sarah Crawley, John Bumpas & Martha Etheridge, some other John Bumpas, or some other Bumpas altogether? Is the John Bumpas identified in our timeline all one person, or have we become confused and merged a number of individuals with the same name (a very real possibility)?

We are searching for documentation and information that proves the parentage of Nancy Bumpass. If her father is indeed John Bumpas, then any additional information on him will also be of considerable assistance.

Thanks, Mike Hallett
mhallett@socal.rr.com

Edgar F. Bumpas(s) died 1923 buried McKays' Cem.d

Tippah603 — 2008-09-23 01:43:41Z

I am searching for any information on Edgar F. Bumpas(s) and wife Linnie Smith Perkins Bumpas(s). and their children.
Last I had of them in 1920 benton co. Ms. Census.
Any help would be so appreciated.

Bumpas site

2006-05-21 00:03:22Z

www.bumpas.co.uk

George W. Bumpas (orig. Tx) moves to Wilmington, De

2005-12-28 19:02:45Z

Looking to add information on my Thompson family file.
Have a Mary S. (nee Thompson) Mc Kee who married George W. Bumpas sometime between 1920-1930. (Her 2nd marriage.)

This is not my direct line, but Mary's grandfather is a sibling to my direct ancestor. His name was Wm. Alfred Thompson.

Census from the New Castle DE Wilmington census reads:
1930 Wilmington, 7 Wd New Castle De census:
(18th St.)
George W. Bumpas, age 45, married at 37, born Texas, parents Tx, Dist. ? Agent, B&G RR.
Mary S. " , wife, age 40, married at 31?, born De, parents De.
George W. Jr " , son, age 7, born De, father Tx, mother De.
Joseph A. McKee, son of wife, age 20, single, born De, father Ireland, mother De, clerk/ Del E & P co.
Anna Thompson, mother-in-law, age 69, widowed, born De, parents Northern Ireland.

Have found where Mary S. Bumpas died March 1975 (retired RR worker.) Do not know where they may be buried/when other family members died.
Have some ancestry Thompson/related families info. for any descendents who might be interested?
Thanks for any help.

Bumpas Family

2005-12-28 18:59:11Z

I am lookin for some information on my grandfathers grandmother. MY grandfathers name was Everett Bumpas of Duncan OKlahoma he was half Cherokee and half Chocotaw Indian any help would be great

Bumpas of NY

2005-12-28 18:57:53Z

I"m looking for a Ruby Bumpus who married Samuel Ingraham in NY in the late 1700's. Their daughter Diana was born in 1802. Any help would be appreciated., thanks, pat

BUMPAS SURNAME

2005-11-21 14:04:51Z

LOOKING FOR ANCESTORS OF GEORGE WASHINGTON BUMPAS 15MAR1833 21APR1897 MAR.MARTHA HATLEY IN INDEPENDANCE AR. 1853 HAD 13 CHILDREN ANY CONTACT WILL BE APPRECIATED E-MAIL REXX@SAFELINK.NET THANK YOU.

GEORGE WASHINGTON BUMPAS

2005-11-21 14:04:14Z

You might try the Edouward Bonpasse web page at "http://www.gate.net/~bwl/ddedbp.htm" It has lots of BUMPXXX names.

Bumpas / Bumpus of England

2005-11-21 13:46:21Z

Bumpas family from Madisonville, KY

2005-11-21 12:51:00Z

My grandfather was named Roland Love Bumpas, and he was born in Madisonville, Ky on April 1st, 1908. I know that his father's name was Dolph Bumpas, but that is as far as I have been able to get. I would appreciate any help!

Bumpas

2005-11-21 12:49:46Z

I'm looking for information about my father. John Ray Bumpas, born in Madisonville, KY. Mother's name Effie Fortner.

Bumpas family in Madisonville

2005-11-21 12:48:38Z

Oh My!! I think that we are probably related. My maiden name is Carrie Bumpas, And my grandfather was Roland Love Bumpas, born in Madisonville Ky April 1st, 1908. PLEASE contact me, so we can figure this out!
thanks
carrie

Bumpas family

2005-11-20 11:43:41Z

I have much info on the Bumpas line from the original Pilgrim Edward Bumpas

Bumpas family

2005-11-20 11:43:01Z

My great-great grandmother was Nancy Jane Bumpas. Her parents were Caleb C. and Minerva Jordan Bumpas. Caleb C. was born in North Carolina in 1821 to John and Martha Patsy Bumpas. Looking for more info on all of them.

Edward Bumpas

2005-11-20 11:42:30Z

I am a decendant of E. Bumpas. My father is Alfred John Bumps. Grandfather was Lewis John Bumps. I have a lot of information on the Bumpas family. Research done by my father's brother, Edson Bumps. would like to hear from a fellow "BUMPS"
Joanne

Martha Bumpas

ghala — 2005-11-20 11:41:57Z

I am searching for any information about my ggmaternal grandmother. She was born in northern Arkansas in the 1830'-1840'. She married James Posey Woodside of Benton County Missouri. They established a farm in Oregon County, Missouri and raised at least four children. Information sought: birth date; parents; county of birth of Martha and her parents; names of her siblings; and any other infomation that might be available.

GEORGE WASHINGTON BUMPAS

2005-11-20 11:41:33Z

I HAVE ALOT OF INFO ON HIM. EMAIL ME DIRECT FOR DETAILS.

Edward Bumpas

patpmwm — 2005-11-20 11:38:20Z

re: Edward Bumpas m Hannah __, parents of Philip Bumpas b Plymouth, MA, d 1724/26 Plainfield, CT. Have no prior info or b or d for Edward Hannah, seems to be the one you mention. My line enters with Philip's dau Lydia b 4/2/1692-d 1740-m Thomas Herd/Hurd. Info greatly appreciated.

bumpas family

kayakman63 — 2005-11-20 11:37:38Z

hi jill, i also have some info on the bumpas family.if possible,i would like to see what you have and perhaps we can view each others material for a comparasion eithe by e-mail or postage.thank you.nugget 37641@aol.com

Hugh Bumpas

LanaBrashears62 — 2005-11-20 11:37:14Z

Looking for info on Hugh Bumpas. Possibly born in
Tn. lived in St.Louis during the 50s.
Email maps949@swbell.net
Thanks
Lana Brashears

Bumpas

KathyHenn — 2005-11-20 11:36:50Z

I am related to the Bumpas family. My direct ancestor was Zacheus who mar Reliance Moray. She is related to the Hannah Moray who mar. John Bumpas Jr. bro of Philip. I have gotten some info from the Mayflower Families - 5 Generations where they had an article on Francis Eaton who mar into the Bumpas family Do you have this info?

Zacheus Bumpas

KathyHenn — 2005-11-20 11:36:21Z

I also am related and would like to know where you got your info on Hannah Edward their deaths. I have never found any source that stated her last name. Thanks.

GEORGE WASHINGTON BUMPAS

ConnieWaldrop — 2005-11-20 11:35:41Z

BORN APRIL 20, 1843 IN TENN. MARRIED JUNE 4, 1871 IN MCLENNAN TEX. TO CATHERINE E. MALONE, THIS IS MY HUSBANDS GGRANDPARENTS. MY E-MAIL ADDRESS IS connie@swnm.com

Bumpas / Bumpus of England

2005-11-20 11:35:01Z

hanna anable

kayakman63 — 2005-11-20 11:34:15Z

hi kathy, if you ever find out what hannah anble 's maiden name is please let me know.....it is also rumored she was a native american but so far i have not come across anything anything to substaiate that and if you do, again please contact me. thank you.tom

Job Bumpas

dorla_stork1 — 2005-11-20 11:33:41Z

Hi Jill I am hoping that you have info on the wife of Job Bumpas. Her name is Abigail ? and I cannot find her. Thanks for your help. My email is pochard1@aol.com

John Thomas Bumpas

2005-11-20 11:33:16Z

Trying to trace my Great Grandpas heritage. John Thomas Bumpas would have been born around 1880-1890. He married Hallie Roxie Lockwood and they had 3 kids that we know of...sons John and George and daughter Irene. All are deceased, Irene just dying earlier this year. Unfortunately we didn't get much family history from any of them. We have no information about Grandpa Bumpas.Grandma Hallie Bumpas told me her and Great Grandpa had traveled on a covered wagon west to head to California but ran out of money and settled in Arizona. I was very little when she told her stories and didn't write the details down. I don't even know where they came from. Any chance you could connect them with your Bumpas family? Any info would be great and I am about to become a Grandma in March 2001 and I want to give my Grandson our family tree if I can.
Thank you so much for your message board. My fax number is 602-996-1121 if you want to fax me anthing and my e mail is jacqsbac@home.com.
Thanks Again....Jacque (a distant relative?)

connection?

2005-11-20 11:31:58Z

One of my great-great-grandmothers was a lady named Lemira Bump. In looking thru Ancestry.com I was able to find a website that had a lot of info. about her genealogy (however, some of it has proven to be false.) She was directly descended from a man by the name of Edward Bumpas (Edouard Bompasse) who arrived in America in 1621 on the ship Fortune. he did marry a lady named Hannah, however it was NOT Hannah Annable, as one website she is on asserts.
Does any of this ring any possible bells for you?
Genealogy is:
Edward Bumpas Hannah ?
John Bompasse Sarah Hunter
Jeremiah Bumpus Jean Lovell
Jeremiah Bumpus Judith Randall
Lot Bumpus Susannah Perry
Admiral Bump/us Julia Ann ?
Lemira Bump/us George Philip Lee
George Herbert Lee Anna Sether
Ann Georgia Lee John Iversen
Warren Iversen Viola Schirmer
Barbara Lee Iversen
that's how I got here. Check with your brother - any connection?
REgards,
Barb iversen

prior info on Edward (edouard bompasse)

2005-11-20 11:30:25Z

are you aware that he came to America in 1621 on the ship Fortune? he was a young man and unmarried at this time.
I know it has been asserted that he married Hannah Annable - but in searching records FOR Hannah Annable I discovered discrepancies. I don't recall exactly but I think if she DID marry it was recorded as someone else. The Hannah that Edward Bumpas married I do not believe was Hannah Annable.
you might also check with mbumpus@msn.com
he seems to know a bit about edouard as well. however, he believes edward married hannah annable but, as i said, that is NOT documented to MY satisfaction.
regards and good luck,
Barb Iversen

hannah annable

2005-11-20 11:29:45Z

in the little bit of research that i have done on Hannah Annable she did NOT marry a man named Edward Bumpas. I don't recall exactly anymore but if she did marry at all it was NOT to edward bumpas. about her being native american i have no idea. but of her having a connection with the genealogical line of the bumpas/bumpus/bump . . . family i have SERIOUS reservations. i'd encourage you to look further. perhaps dave_lossos@prodigy.net might be of assistance here.

Regard,
Barb Iversen
descendant of Lemira Bump (b. 4-24-1837)

hannah annable

2005-11-20 11:28:56Z

hi barb,where did you get your source regarding hannah ananble was not married to edward bumpasse/bumpas,bumpus?? according to paul and steven bumpus of plymouth mass. who have a bumpus family web site starting with edward and hannah and along with the names of their 13 children. paul and steve have done extensive research on the family. my cousen who is now diseased also has done research going back to edward and hannah. my cousen also indicated that hannah was a native american, although at present that can't be substaniated! :( my brother believes at the time the men of that time period did not have many choices to take a women for a wife so it makes sense alot of men of that time period took native american for their wives and also might have given them anglo saxon names is why i believe its hard to prove the the native american connection to the bumpus family tree. i would like to know your thoughts on this matter.tom

hannah annable

2005-11-20 11:28:21Z

I am trying at this point to find where I saw that Hannah Annable was married to someone else. Likely it will be found on one of my "Family Forest" CD's or perhaps ARL 2000. But I must admit that I am a bit embarrassed for saying anything. I have difficulty remembering specifics if I don't have them written down. I will certainly search whatever I found that led me to believe that he did not in fact marry Hannah Annable.
However, if she were indeed Native American, that may also explain why the records indicate Edward Bumpas was married to a "Hannah unknown" - given the fact that that may not have been an "accepted" practice even then - do you think so? Or am I guilty of putting 20thC views on the 17thC?
I will locate my source and answer back. Thank you for your response.

Barb Iversen

more about hannah

2005-11-20 11:27:45Z

I'm curious, why has it ever been supposed that she may have been Native American? In other words, what caused somebody to think that in the first place? Was it partly bc Edward did seem to find a wife rather quickly? Or was it perhaps bc the name Annable does not appear on passenger lists from either the Mayflower or the Fortune which she would've HAD to have been on for her to have been here? What about the passsenger list for those who arrived in Jamestown in 1607? Could she have been here since then? Or perhaps BORN at Jamestown? As I recall I do remember questioning "How did this Hannah Annable arrive? She couldn't have been here already" - I was assuming that she was English. Wouldn't it seem to you that if she was not somehow part of the Jamestown group that that must mean she was Native American bc i believe "ANnable" does not appear on passenger lists of the Mayflower or the Fortune? Wouldn't THAT be sufficient "proof" that she had to have been Native? Thanks
Barb

partial answer about Hannah annable

2005-11-20 11:27:05Z

Hannah annable is listed as a passenger on the Anne that arrived in 1623. If this was indeed the lady that Edward Bumpas married then any suspicions of her being Native American should thereby be thwarted, wouldn't you think? This information came from: http://members.aol.com/calebj/mayflower.html

I believe this is also the site where I found some further info re: hannah annable that led me to believe she did NOT in fact marry edward bumpas. i will continue searching and report again.

Barb Iversen

edward bumpas-hannah annable

2005-11-20 11:26:34Z

I've heard it rumored that hannah annable had native american ancestry. however, IF hannah ANNABLE from the anne was indeed the "hannah" that edward bumpus married, then her parents are listed as anthony annable and jane momford, both of whom appear to have strict english backgrounds.
so my question is this:
was there something about hannah's appearance that caused there to be rumors about her ethnicity that have been so far spread as to exist even still today, now some 4 centuries later?
or, perhaps did edward b. have some children by an Indian maiden that edward and HANNAH raised as their own?
does anyone know? and since record keeping appears to have been a bit "hit-n-miss", so to speak, in those days, if Indian ancestry is not noted for any of their children, how would anyone be able to FIND that answer today?
also, i'm not positive that edward DID in fact marry hannah ANNABLE. i've seen, i've forgotten exactly where but i'm still looking, "evidence" that would suggest otherwise. where is the proof that hannah ANNABLE was the name of the "hannah" - maiden name unknown - that edward bumpus(as) married?
thank you