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Re: von Buntz family from Bohemia

Kurtbontius79 — 2009-07-22 13:07:17Z

An interesting fact in your message from 22 July 2009 is the marriage of Peter Buntz to a French woman. I would think that women of French nationality were a rather rare kind at the Bohemian parts of Taus, at that time. Therefore, I would assume that your gr. gr. grandfather had met and married his wife at a place where French people were more at home, i.e. somewhere near the borders of France or the Walloon part of Belgium. This takes us back to Peter Berwanger's book "Die letzte Heimat" where he says your ancestors had come from a place near Trier, a German city that is close to the French, Luxemburg and Belgian borders.

Obviously, Berwanger involuntarily had mixed together two geographical informations that should be kept separate. The one is the original home of your ancestor in an area near the city of Trier, the other is that they had left this place and moved to the Bohemian village of Kohlstaetten near the city of Taus.

In any case, it now seems that your ancestors originally came from that borderland close to Lorraine which traditionally has been Catholic. This explains why your family has been of good Catholic faith. Most Bun(t)z-families in Germany, as well as their descendants in the US, are Protestants originating from those parts in Southern and Northern Germany that had clung to the Protestant faith since Reformation.

The name "Bun(t)z", frequently spelled "Bon(t)z" or "Pon(t)z", sometimes the "z" being replaced by "s", is not uncommon in the am. "borderland" and the adjoining parts in Germany. In the city of Sinzig, which by car is about 60 km from Cologne and 120 km from Trier, there existed a Bunz-family in the 17th and 18th century. It had started with a certain "Anthon Pontz" (*ca. 1609)whose origins were supposed to be in a place called "Anmers" in the duchy of Luxemburg. In 1644, he became mayor of Sinzig and lived in a stately mansion called "Trierer Hof". All of the Pontz/Buntz-members in Sinzig were Catholics.

Another village called Niederehe, about halfway between Trier and Cologne, was home to a Buntz-family from the 17th to the 19th century starting with a "Jacob Buntzen" (ca. 1608-1684). The spelling of the family name varies and includes forms like "Pontzelet".

If I am not completely mistaken, any search for the roots of your family should have a close look to the am. region where France, Belgium, Luxemburg and Germany connect. Perhaps, getting in touch with archives in Bohemia, e. g. the city of Taus, will furnish you with info (from church books etc.) as to the real home-town of Peter Buntz somewhere near Trier.

All the best.

Re: von Buntz family from Bohemia

DellaLLewis — 2009-07-22 02:21:00Z

Kurtbontius: Many thanks for the time and effort you spent researching the Bunz/Buntz name etc.

Perhaps you can enlighten me more when I elaborate on the Buntz family. My information comes from older interested famly members. Peter Buntz my gr. gr. grandfather lost his inheritance including the title when he married a French woman, (Franciska/Francoise) against his father's wishes. Peter apparently left Bohemia with his new wife and fled to to Banat area where his cousin Karl lived. Here he settled. They were German speaking and a good Catholic family. Out of his family of 12 only 2 children survived. My great grandfather Adam Buntz (1856) and his brother Frank. Place of birth unknown.

Adam joined the Miliary and was an orderly and an officer in a military school. Around 1877 Adam married Katharina Esto (Esteau) born 1856 (parents Nash Esto and Martha Letang - both of French origins). We do know that 3 out of the 6 children's baptismal certicates verify that John (1881), Adam (1883) and Karl (1887) were born in Darova and the name was Buntz. There are no records for Albert (1878), Magdalena (1885) and Martin (1888).

The name change to Bunz showed up on the ships' Manifest when they left on the Dresden in 1898 to voyage to America.

Adam's brother Frank also married Katharina's sister, Marie and had 4 children. (Gertrude, Katherine, Anna & Frank). Birthdates are unknown but probably similar to some of Adam's children. This family remained in the Banat area and Frank owned a hotel. (Place unknown.)

Is there a reference to any of the above Buntz'or Esto' in Die Letzte Heimat? Thanks again for your interest.

Re: von Buntz family from Bohemia

Kurtbontius79 — 2009-07-13 22:39:26Z

In his Darowa-book “Die letzte Heimat”, Peter Berwanger states that two of the Darowa Bunz-“forefathers”, Josef Bunz (1820-1876) and Michael Bunz (1818-1893), had been born in “Kohlstetten”, a place located near Trier, supposedly. After many efforts to locate this place by asking local authorities of the city of Trier and turning to Google-Earth and Google-Maps I can truly say, Berwanger is wrong. There exists no Kohlstetten/Kohlstätten in the area around Trier!

To be sure, in another area of Germany there is a village called “Kohlstetten”. You may find it in Southern Germany near Engstingen in the vicinity of the city of Reutlingen. However, as this village has always been a predominantly Protestant village it is unlikely that the Catholic Bunz’s from Darowa had their origins there.

Changing the spelling a little bit in Googling I hit upon a place called “Kohlstätten” in the Bohemian region of the Czech Republic (Latitude: 49.383/Longitude: 12.9). Its Czech name is “Snory” and it seems to be a part of the city of “Domazlice”, the German name of which is “Taus” being thus, incidentally, the same city that you had mentioned in your query of March 29, 2006 as the place where your great-great-grandfather Peter Buntz had grown up. (I doubt that he owned the noble prefix “von”.)

As he seems to have been born in “Kohlstätten” around the same time as Josef and Michael Bunz, the two mentioned in the Berwanger-book, we may assume that your ancestor Peter Bun(t)z had been their brother and that all three of them had been living in the Czech village of “Kohlstätten” before moving to Darowa in the Banat region around 1850.

It is safe to assume that the inhabitants of the Bohemian village of “Kohlstätten” (belonging nowadays to the Czech Republic, in the 19th century to the Austro-Hungarian Empire) were predominantly Catholics which is why the Darowa Bunz-families all are Catholics whereas most of the Bunz-families in Germany are Protestants.

When, wherefrom and how Bun(t)z-families came to the Bohemian village of “Kohlstätten” is a matter that needs further exploration. There may be connections to the Bun(t)z-families in Germany, however, there also is the possibility that the spelling had undergone some changes. A likely contender may be “Ban(t)z” which can be found in that region.

Best regards.

Re: Buntz's in Australia

owensmg — 2009-06-27 01:38:06Z

Hi Tracey, I don't think we have been in touch before. Your BUNTZ family is within my NANKERVIS Family Tree. If you would like a copy of the NANKERVIS Family Tree just let me know. Regards Margaret Owens, Melbourne.
owensmg@optusnet.com.au

Buntz's in Australia

tmltott — 2009-01-10 12:40:07Z

I am researching my mother's family. Her maiden name was Buntz. Her father was George Marcus Buntz (b.1908 in Wodonga, Victoria) and her mother was Iris Evelyn (nee Smeeton) (b.1911 in Albury, New South Wales). George's father was Marcus Henry Buntz (b. 1874 in Beechworth, Victoria) and his mother was Isabella (nee Sangster) (b.1789 in Victoria). Marcus's father was Joachim Henry Buntz (1842 in England) and his mother was Mary Ann (nee Nankervis) (b.1850 in England). If anyone has any information regarding this family I would love to hear from you. Many thanks. Tracey

Re: Buntz

japer103291 — 2009-01-05 20:24:36Z

HI, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE BUNTZ FAMILY INFORMATION. I HOPE AFTER SO LONG OF A TIME SINCE YOU POSTED YOUR MESSAGE THAT I CAN GET THRU TO YOU.

THANKS - JOSEPH

Re: von Buntz family from Bohemia

bunz071 — 2008-10-28 18:33:54Z

I'll check my family tree book and get back to you. I have been away for a bit

Re: von Buntz family from Bohemia

japer103291 — 2008-10-24 23:09:02Z

THANKS FOR CHECKING YOUR RECORDS. JOSEPH

Re: von Buntz family from Bohemia

DellaLLewis — 2008-10-24 17:39:30Z

Most of the Bunz' in "Das Bunz Book" live or lived in Canada. There is no one listed from Pennsylvannia. Peter von Buntz had two sons -- Adam Buntz born 1856 in the Banat area and Frank probably born in the same area. It is the Adam family that I am related to (my gr. grandfather). He and his family (6 children) left Lugosh in 1898 for America and it was at this time the name was changed to Bunz. He was a resident of both Ohio and Adams, Ma. In 1904 the family moved to Saskatchewan, Canada and the bulk of Adam Bunz' off springs live in Western Canada.

I wonder if you may be related to Frank Buntz. No one seems to know much about him.

Good luck in your search.

Re: von Buntz family from Bohemia

japer103291 — 2008-10-24 02:14:58Z

HI, I AM INTERESTED IN THE BUNTZ FAMILY OF PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA. PERHAPS YOU COULD CHECK AND SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION THAT MIGHT HELP ME.

THANKS - JOSEPH

Re: von Buntz family from Bohemia

DellaLLewis — 2008-09-11 00:11:58Z

I am interested in learning more about your Bunz Book. I already have a copy of "Das Bunz Buch" printed a few years ago. Any other Bunz book would be of great interest to me. Are you also a relative of Peter von Buntz?

Re: von Buntz family from Bohemia

bunz071 — 2008-09-10 06:59:23Z

I have a family book on the bunz's would you like so info

von Buntz family from Bohemia

DellaLLewis — 2006-03-29 05:42:28Z

I am searching for information on my great, great grandfather Peter von Buntz and distant relatives who lived in Bohemia (possibly Taus). Peter moved to the Banat region (AH Empire) sometime in the 1850's. The name was later changed to Buntz. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Re: VON BUNTZ, BUNTZ, or BUNTS

2005-01-15 06:34:14Z

I would like to direct your attention to a recently published book on the history of the Bunz-families. Its author traces the origins of the Bissingen-/Nabern-Branch back to the 16th century and to a certain Johannes Bunz from Weidenstetten, a village near the former imperial city of Ulm:

Rainer Bunz: Bunz-Geschichte(n). Familienbilder aus fünf Jahrhunderten. Egelsbach (Germany) 2004, 304 pp. (ISBN 3-00-015072-2)

Kurt Bontius

Re: Marriage of Mollenshott & Buntz 20 Nov 1893 Scranton PA

blank65 — 2004-10-15 16:36:36Z

I am sure that is my grandfather, John Mollenshott and my grandmother although I know her as Augusta Butz. I thought that they were married in NYC where they lived from about 1895 to 1910 and then returned to Scranton where they lived. There are still Mollenshott's in Scranton now. I did not know that date of their marriage. My grandmother arrived from Germany in 1891 or 1892 but we are not sure about John.
Any other information of them would be appreciated.

Re: Buntz

mwiest54 — 2004-06-21 03:22:08Z

My grandfather was William E. Buntz - he lived with his wife Marguerita in Philly at least from 1930 until his death in 1981. I am looking also for past relatives.

Lt. Buntz Pueblo Army Air Base

2004-01-03 17:41:30Z

I am looking for some information on the above person as I have pictures of him that my mother took while she worked at the air base in Pueblo.

Thanks,
Nancy Masimer

Ila D. Buntz

2003-11-27 07:58:09Z

The above name came up on the passenger list of a ship I am researching. I am posting this to all the bulletin boards for passenger’s last names. My hope is to compile a short biography of the passengers. If you have someone by this name that might have made a voyage to/from South America on the Delta Lines Delorleans in early 1941 I would love to hear from you.

Mitch Fisher
SS Delorleans@aol.com

Re: Buntz

Ronnie_Ennis — 2003-07-17 22:53:49Z

I have a Raymond Buntz in my family from Philly. His parents were Mary Jane Wheeler and John M. Buntz. Please contact me if I can help. Thanks. Jaimbug@msn.com

Re: VON BUNTZ,BUNTZ,OR BUNTS

2003-07-11 07:03:08Z

HELLO,
IS THIS BARRY BUNTS,FROM FORTLAUDERDALE FLORIDA

Buntz

PERKINSBM3 — 2003-06-15 02:02:24Z

Looking for information on a Raymond Buntz who married Pat McDonugh in Philadelphia, PA.

Re: VON BUNTZ,BUNTZ,OR BUNTS

brianbuntz1 — 2003-05-24 06:16:58Z

Hello, this is somewhat unrelated, but as you can see, my last name is Buntz. I'm looking for more information on my relatives, and know only that my Great -great - great grandpa came from the Württemberg in around 1810 to America. He had a wife Christina, and 3 children born in Germany. Anyone have any ideas on how I could find more information on them, when I don't know what town (only the province) they came from?

Thanks,
Brian

Marriage of Mollenshott & Buntz 20 Nov 1893 Scranton PA

egodwinUS — 2002-09-08 12:22:56Z

from page 3 of local newspaper, "Scranton Republican"-- "Mr. John Mollenshott and Miss Emma Buntz, both of this side, were united in marriage Saturday evening at the home of the later's sister, Mrs. John Rose of Brook Street. Rev. Mr. Zitzleman of the Mifflin Avenue Lutheran Church officiated. ...will make their future residence here." I am not related; I merely found this on a photocopy of mine while doing my research on my family that lived in Scranton on the "south side" of the river. A number of Irish, Germans, and Polish lived and worked there in the steel mills, silk mills, coal mines, and railroads in the 1890's.

Re: Marriage of Mollenshott & Buntz 20 Nov 1893 Scranton PA

egodwinUS — 2002-09-08 12:22:56Z

The city directories of Scranton, in the database on this site, Ancestry.com, list eight pages of Buntz's for 1890--1892. Check them out.

Question

jlg83 — 2002-07-04 06:35:46Z

Can anyone familiar with the name Buntz make any significance out of the names Buntz and Buntze-Laben? If so, please write to me at jlg@walrus.com. Could it possibly be something from ancient times?

Katherine-Robert - first children of John Buntz ?

1999-10-26 15:37:49Z

looking for family information of my Great- grandmother. The great great grandfather was supposed to have traveled from southern Ontario to the California gold rush. The children were born in Nevada - state, county or city- I cant find any record of their births. when Katherine was 8 and Robert was 6 the family decided to return east. Robert died around this time about 1870. I can be contacted by the email address above or at PO Box 3534, Pahrump, NV 89041. Thank you CP

Richard Bunts Family

1998-09-12 12:00:00Z

Searching back on the the Richard Bunts family as found on the 1830 U.S.Federal Census in Freedon Township, Cattaraugus County, New York. Richard was born in New York in 1796 and his wife Annis was born in New York in 1805. They subsequently had ten children; Mary Ann, Anson, Irvin, Richard, Julia, Thomas, Perry, Ellen, Louisa and Martha. The name was entered as Bounce in the 1860 Indiana census and then to Bunce on the 1870 Indiana census. Need help in determining the parents of Richard and his wife Annis and their country of origin..

VON BUNTZ,BUNTZ,OR BUNTS

1998-06-24 12:00:00Z

Possable Bunts's still living in London. Wesley came over to USA and from what we figurged out changed name from Von Buntz to Bunts.