Burns - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Looking for my ancestors of the Burns Family

trumpetwinds — 2009-11-07 22:06:42Z

I forgot to answer one of your questions...in regard to Marcus' parents, I do not have any information. I am not related to Marcus by blood, just by marriage.
Lee..

I see you are in california from your posts..me too! I live in Fairfield

Re: Looking for my ancestors of the Burns Family

trumpetwinds — 2009-11-07 22:00:36Z

Nice to hear from you Leann..I have done a ton of research on Sealine. Her proper name was Louise Celina Hudspeth of Humphreys County Tenn. Her nickname was Sealine. I have a picture of her. She had a club foot (right foot) and she NEVER went anywhere without a cup of coffee. She died in 1944. Apparently when Marcus died, there was a falling out between Sealine and the Burns family over the land she had with Marcus. However, my grandfather Joseph Wayne Horton remained friends with the Burns family for many many years after. Joseph Wayne Horton married Sealine's daughter from her first marriage to Noah Ethridge. Her name was Ida Ethridge.

I am currently working on Sealine back to Humphreys County Tenn but it is difficult, as her name has been used in many different ways, L.C. Hudspeth, Louise, Celine, Celina and Sealine. I did find her marriage certificate for Dec 10th, 1884 in Humphreys County to her first husband Noah ethridge.

According to the older members of our family, Ida Etheridge was either 1/2 or 1/4 Cherokee which means Sealine was full or 1/2. Do you have any info on that?

Which one of Marcus Burns' children is your grandparent? Are you living in Arkansas?

Thanks,
Lee Horton

Re: Looking for my ancestors of the Burns Family

jljerivano — 2009-11-07 21:05:06Z

Hi Lee Horton

Marcus D. Burns is my g-g-grandfather. He was married twice! I wasn't sure who she was all I know that she is cline and they had a son Willie Burns. Marucs (dad) is Upton Burns and (mom) Elizabeth Mason. Do you know who Upton Burns father is or parents? Thank you for the info. on Cline full name. (Louise Celina "Sealine" Hudspeth) Is Hudspeth her maiden name?

Thank you!
Leann

Re: Looking for my ancestors of the Burns Family

trumpetwinds — 2009-11-07 18:32:44Z

Hi Ralph,
My GG Grandmother was Louise Celina "Sealine" Hudspeth Burns. She was married to Marcus D. Burns in Johnson Clay Co Arkansas. i believe Marcus died around 1910 and Sealine ived until around 1945. I think Sealine was Marcus' second wife. They had one child together whom I think was named Willie. Sealine already had two children of her own, Ida and Walter Etheridge from her previous marriage. Ida was my G Grandmother. Does any of this sound familiar?
Lee Horton

Re: BURNS, BANGOR, MAINE, USA

ruth825437 — 2009-11-07 17:19:48Z

I have hit a dead in and just found this from 2001. my new addy is Ruthmesarch@yahoo.com if you have anything new on the Burns family

Re: BURNS, Co Galway, Ireland

bellatea — 2009-11-07 09:23:31Z

Sorry. I wasn’t able to find much. :(

1911 is the latest that you could find them: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Galway/Hill...

1921 was during the war for independence, so no census was taken in Ireland

1931 has not been published

Their parish was Killererin, so you would look up Killererin’s or Tuam’s Church records to see if you could find any baptisms, marriages etc for your family. (Parochial registers of Killererin, 1851-1900 has been microfiched by the LDS: http://www.londonfhc.org/content/catalogue?p=Ireland,Ireland...)

Databases you can try: http://galwaywest.brsgenealogy.com/ and/ or http://www.irish-roots.ie/galway-east.asp

Re: Burns/Borger- Aus

karenlaughton — 2009-11-06 04:01:22Z

Hi,
My ancestor is Agnes Ada Hand (nee Borger) born 1867 at Macleay River. Agnes is the daughter of Phillip and Frances Borger (nee Chapman).

My mum and I are just beginning our research into this side of the family. We are interested in connecting the dots between Francis and the surname Byrnes/Burns.

Thanks,
Karen

Re: BURNS, Co Galway, Ireland

mariamulvihill — 2009-11-04 09:59:52Z

Thanks.

My grandfather's name was William Joseph Burns, born 14th (?) May 1920 near Tuam, Co Galway, Ireland.

He married my grandmother, Winifred Mary Peebles, in Wolverhampton, England in April 1949.

He died in Wolverhampton on 4th May 1996.

His mother's maiden name was Margaret Ann Kelly, but I'm not sure where she was from (although I would presume it would be somewhere in Co Galway).

Re: BURNS, Co Galway, Ireland

bellatea — 2009-11-04 08:04:41Z

Also, these people might be related to you:

http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.britisles.ireland.gal....

Re: BURNS, Co Galway, Ireland

bellatea — 2009-11-03 05:00:40Z

I couldn't help but notice your plight from Facebook and tried to do a Google search for you, but to no avail.

If you feel comfortable doing so, list the following-

William (middle name) Burns
Birth date and place:

Marriage date and place:

Death date and place:

Do you have the maiden name of his mother? It would probably be on his death certificate.

Re: Lookin for Martha Mcconnelee Abt BERNITA BURNS - ELKHART, IN)

vonnieh50|M153965 — 2009-10-28 17:07:39Z

Hi When I sent you the post on Bernita I had been in contact with a lady on ebay that had personal effect of this person and she wanted to give it to someone that was related to them but it has been several years and I no longer have contact sorry. I do remember that one thing was a bible and several journals. Sorry we were not able to make this contact when I made the post.
Sincerely Yvonne Hawley

Re: Searching For Jack Burns

steve9957 — 2009-10-27 17:18:05Z

my father is jack burns. actually john frances burns 1 brother charles john lived in milan mich his brother in dundee. He is burried in harrison mich. died jan.1 1985

BURNS Robert Lynn 1943 2007 in loving memory

t42PilotGrove_GraysonCoTX — 2009-10-27 10:33:33Z

BURNS Robert Lynn 1943 2007 in loving memory

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BURNS William Henry aka BURNES ca 1875-1920 GA

DeborahYeary52 — 2009-10-26 18:28:57Z

My grandmother was married first to this man, they lived in Dodge, Lee Co. GA or Lee Co. Dodge GA, they had the following children. William (Bill) b. abt 1916, Effie, b. abt 1911, and Annis Jean b. abt 1917. In 1920 Eula Goings is listed with her parents in Rome, Ga with a notation of divorced, although the family had thought for many years she was a widow. She was born in Hephzibah, GA so he may have been from around the Augusta, GA area and or Aiken in SC I was told he died abt. 1916 which may be true. I think he was married before he mar. my grandmother but I know nothing of any children or names. Can anyone researching this family help me locate this man? He may have been buried in Tifton, GA. Thank you. Debbie Yeary Squirtchat@comcast.net

BURNS Robert Bob 1943 2007 Dannel FH

t42PilotGrove_GraysonCoTX — 2009-10-24 19:10:50Z

BURNS Robert Bob 1943 2007 Dannel FH

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John Burns m Lissa Jane Williams AR 1880's

miss_jl — 2009-10-21 21:16:38Z

I am looking for information on the Williams family in Arkansas. What I have is: Wiley Williams m Mary Jane Wroten; they had the following children:
Margaret Williams m George Woodward
Sarah Williams no marriage
Lissa Jane Williams m John Burns
John Williams m Nancy Tubleson
James Solomon Williams m Annie Laurie Coleman
Roten Williams m Elizabeth Self

Thank you, Jenny Lee

Re: re: Burns family, Buffalo, New York

mconnors219_1 — 2009-10-16 01:20:41Z

Hello Pat,
We do have a Burns family connection. If you'd like to contact me directly, my email address is: mconnors219@juno.com.

I have the marriage dates, church location and death (burial) locations of Thomas Burns (1863-1903), as well as, his oldest daughter, Ellen Loretta Burns (1888-1891).

Lillian Burns married a William Banch, on Nov 25, 1908. They had two sons. William died after 1913. She then married a Edward John Whalen, about 1918. Edward and Lillian had three children; Dorothy, Austin and Lillian.

Mike

Re: re: Burns family, Buffalo, New York

frontiermuseum — 2009-10-15 14:15:02Z

Michael,
Lillian Burke who married Thomas Burns is my grandmother.

Lillian Burns, who married Edward Whelan is my aunt.

Would love to hear from you.

Patricia Stark

Re: Thomas Burns from Massey Maryland

graybfox1 — 2009-09-20 01:22:26Z

Thanks for the info but I have found out that Thomas was not my Grandfathers Father.

Maybe your info will help others searching for Thomas Burns.

Seeking Burns families with central Pennsylvania roots in the 1800s.

germanwaitegen — 2009-09-30 21:04:10Z

Seeking Burns families with central Pennsylvania roots in the 1800s.

I am seeking descendants of a James BURNS and wife Susan WEIGHT / WAITE from Huntingdon Co. Pa. James was born ca 1780-1790 and died ca 1847 in Antis Twn., Huntingdon Co. Pa. leaving a widow Susan Weight Burns b. ca 1790 and died btw. 1870-1880. James and Susan Weight Burns had fourteen children:
#1 Mary Burns b. 1813 d. aft 1880 m. David Phillips
#2 Thomas b. 1815
#3 Benjamin b. 1817
#4 Barbara Burns b. 1820
#5 Abraham Burns b. 1821 d. 1894 m. Lucy McMonigal
#6 George Burns b. 1823 d. aft 1895 m. Lucy Ann Ritz
#7 James b. 1825 b. 1825 d. aft. 1880 m. Mary UNKN
#8 Margaret Burns b. 1828
#9 Julia Ann Burns b. 1830
#10 Susan Burns b. 1831 She never marries.
#11 Rachael Burns b. 1834
#12 Isaac Burns b. 1835 d. 1902 Civil War Vet m. Sarah M. Ritz I have his newspaper obit
#13 Alexander Burns b. 1836 d. 1913 Civil War Vet m. Rhoda A. UNKN
#14 David Burns 12 b. 1838 d. 1912m. Lydia UNKN I have his newspaper obit
Note: All birth dates are approximate based on census record averages as available and explicit tax township tax assessment records.

If you think you might be related and/or have information you are willing to share please email me directly at germanwaitegen@gmail.com

Re: Robert Burns

themacs4_1 — 2009-10-14 21:06:09Z

Please contact me through my email Themacs_4@msn.com. So sorry I'm so late getting back to you. You can also call me on my phone 515-321-6531 cell.

Re: Lookin for Martha Mcconnelee Abt BERNITA BURNS - ELKHART, IN)

themacs4_1 — 2009-10-14 20:55:15Z

My email address didn't come through correctly. Themacs_4@msn.com

Re: Lookin for Martha Mcconnelee Abt BERNITA BURNS - ELKHART, IN)

themacs4_1 — 2009-10-14 20:53:44Z

I'm replaying to Yvonne. I would like to hear anything the might have on Bernita Burns(Backer). thanks

alice burns

waynejohno — 2009-09-24 18:04:18Z

hi can any one help me.i have alice burns born 1904 -1957 married 1922 to alfred roskell musker they lived in the fazakerley area of liverpool.im trying to trace alice burns side of the family who is my great great nan.i believe her mum was called alice but not sure on this.alice had 5 ids alfred lillian june and my nan monica.any help would be of use as im getting no where with the burns side of the family

Baby boy BURNS, 6 Feb 1911

searching4grandpa — 2009-09-27 11:54:53Z

Looking for any information someone may have on the birth parents of a baby boy given up for adoption after he was born 6 Feb 1911, presumedly in Pennsylvania. One or both of his birth parents had the surname Burns (he later made it his middle name). He was adopted by George and Florence Miller and named Donald Miller.

I am his great-granddaughter, and I am looking to piece together some missing information; I only found out he was adopted shortly before his death in 2001.

Jane Burns of Ohio and George Winders of Maryland

tmlodge — 2009-09-29 19:02:10Z

Looking for information on Jane Burns who married George Winders(both born probably 1810 to 1818). They had a son Hiram Winders, b. 6-6-1836 in Washington County, MD. Hiram married Hettie Marie Tice on 3-22-1860 in Oregon, IL. Their daughter, Carrie Belle married Will Jackson (both are buried in Butler, MO).

Terry Lodge tmlodge@hotmail.com

BURNS Clarcie H 1908-1977

t42MountOlivet — 2009-09-29 18:15:42Z

BURNS Clarcie H 1908-1977

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BURNS Seburn Sr 1893-1969

t42MountOlivet — 2009-09-30 12:14:43Z

BURNS Seburn Sr 1893-1969

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BURNS Florence E 1903-1995

t42MountOlivet — 2009-10-01 11:38:50Z

BURNS Florence E 1903-1995

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BURNS Robert W 1903-1974

t42MountOlivet — 2009-10-03 17:50:48Z

BURNS Robert W 1903-1974

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Obit: Suzanne (Burns) Simington (1943-2009)

wilsonje19 — 2009-09-24 01:21:24Z

Suzanne Ruth Simington, daughter of Robert Frances and Alma Nora (Nelson) Burns, was born June 9, 1943 in Richmond, California. In 1950 Suzanne and her family moved to Emmetsburg where she attended school. Following high school, Suzanne attended Beauty School in Mason City.

On September 21, 1963 Suzanne was united in marriage to Larry Dean Simington at St. Thomas Catholic Church in Emmetsburg. To this union four children were born. They made their home in Spencer and Ruthven. Suzanne later moved to Emmetsburg to care for her mother.

Suzanne was a devoted wife, mother and homemaker. She always made everyone feel welcome in her home and was like a “second mom” to many of her children’s friends.

Suzanne loved the outdoors, and especially enjoyed Lost Island Lake. She was an avid reader, enjoyed sporting events and liked to watch the Food Network on TV. Suzanne was instrumental in getting the pet program established at the Emmetsburg Care Center. When she moved to the Care Center she took her dog, Skully and they now have a resident cat and dog for the residents to enjoy.

Suzanne died Sunday, September 20, 2009 at the Emmetsburg Care Center at the age of 66. She was preceded in death by her husband, Larry in 1977 and her parents.

She is survived by her children, Bob Simington of Ruthven, IA, Robin (Rod) Hanson of Marcus, IA, Lori Kunzman and her friend, Nick Logan of Greenville, IA and Becky (John) Moore of Spencer, IA: ten grandchildren; four great grandchildren; a brother, Bill (Carol) Burns of South Elgin, IL; and a sister, Almalea Allen of south Elgin, IL; as well as many other relatives and friends.

Private Family Graveside Service
Crown Hill Cemetery
Ruthven, Iowa
Saturday, September 26, 2009

Re: BURNS Sneem, Co Kerry

doody88 — 2009-09-20 17:28:20Z

I've just read your Burns/Moriarty emails on the Ancestry message Board. I am a descendant of Roger and Johanna Burns/Byrnes who lived in Glanlough Upper. Roger is listed in Griffiths but must have died by 1858. Roger and Johanna had four children who came to the US in 1847, Daniel, John, Timothy and Mary on whom I have much information. Do you know of the Roger Burns family and/or how he is related to the other Burns in Gortdromagh and the surrounding townlands? Please respond to me here or at court.storey@northmarq.com.
Regards, Courtney Storey

Re: Luke Burns and Patrick Donohoe - Roscommon

karoy241 — 2009-10-12 05:40:50Z

Hi are you still searching for answers on Patrick Donohoe?
Regards
Karen

William BURNS 1880 VA md Fannie Byers 1882 VA - Moved to Nebraska ca 1905

famhntr1 — 2009-09-19 21:40:32Z

William (M or J) BURNS b. 1880 VA, s/o David & Caroline BURNS of VA. Md 1903 VA to Fannie BYERS d/o James E. BYERS & Sarah SPRINKLE of NC.
CH (all b.in Nance Co NE) Rachel 1906, Mandie 1908, David 1910 (d.1974 NE), June 1912, Katherine 1915 & Myrtle 1918.
Working on family book of James E. BYERS; Fannie BYERS BURNS is 1 of his 5 daughters and only daughter that went west.
Appreciate any connections !

Burns Family, Kellys Island, Erie County, Ohio.

downingjudy — 2009-10-12 00:25:36Z

I am seeking any Burns family members who currently live in Kellys Island, Erie County, Ohio that are descendents of my gggrandparents, Patrick & Rose M. Burns who lived in Kellys Island in the 1860's. They had five children that I know of, Mary J, b. abt 1851 in Connecticut, Daniel, b. abt 1850, also in Connecticut, John, b. abt 1858, Ellen, b. abt 1860, and my ggrandmother, Eliza, b. abt 1855. She married Thomas Burke, from Ireland, town and county unknown. They resided in Stamford, Connecticut. Would appreciate hearing from any family members.

Thanks,

Judy

Burns Family, Kellys Island, Erie County, Ohio.

downingjudy — 2009-10-12 00:23:51Z

SEARCHING FOR BIRTHMOTHER INFO

gjehjms7 — 2009-10-05 21:57:49Z

SEARCHING FOR INFO ON AN EDNA WHO WAS BORN IN THE SUMMER OF 1925 IN A MID-WESTERN STATE AND OF IRISH AND CHEROKEE INDIAN DECENT. HER PARENTS DIED WHEN SHE WAS YOUNG AND SHE WAS RAISED MY HER GRANDMOTHER.

I AM RESEARCHING AN EDNA BURNS WHO WAS 5 IN 1930 ON THE US CENSUS. HER GRANDMOTHER WAS SHOWN AS ALICE A DYER. ALICE HAD 2 DAUGHTERS, MARJORIE DYER AND MABEL E STRONG. EDNA BURNS WAS SHOWN AS HER GRANDAUGHTER.

ANYONE WITH ANY INFO THAT MATCHES - PLEASE ADVISE.

THANKS-GLORIA

Burns of Belfast

lana1467 — 2009-10-08 21:55:16Z

Hello,

Is anyone else researching Burns in Belfast - my tribalpages website gives more information about the family that I am interested in.

http://burnsofbelfast.tribalpages.com/

Related family names:
Campbell
Fennelly
Joy
Kennedy
Mcanespie
Mccartney
Mcwilliams
Meehan

Kind Regards
Rachel

Burns from Bengor

LindaJBlackmoore — 2009-10-02 07:51:17Z

Looking for information on the Burns from Bangor County Down Ireland.
Samuel Burns married Dorcas McClurg. I know they has a son Samuel [Sam] I was in contact with his several years ago. That Sam also had a son Sam, who was in the army. Looking for any Burns / McClurg information. Plus contact with any decendants of Samuel and Dorcas.
Thanks Linda

Re: Wllm Wesley Burns of Westrn PA

juliekeeton1124 — 2009-10-02 13:51:05Z

I would like to exchange information with you on William Wesley Burns and his wife Eltha Oressa Burns. I have some information and family photos. I am a great granddaughter from Michigan. I used the e-mail address provided and had a mail failure response. Looking forward to hearing from you. My e-mail address is: juliekeeton1124@yahoo.com

Re: William Burns

juliekeeton1124 — 2009-10-11 13:43:35Z

Hello, I would like to make a comment about your post. My great grandmother is Eltha Oressa Wilson Burns (she remarried and Moved to Toledo, Ohio) Jeremy 1868-1952, born in or near Tidioute, Pa. She was married to William Wesley Burns 1848-1911. Their children are as follows: Myrtle Nellis 1891, William James 1892,John Alfred 1894(My grandfather), Henry Orris "Pete" 1896, Mary Rebecca (she later changed it to Emma) 1898, Lura Ellen 1900, Vera 1902-1902, George "Clyde" 1904, Fred Victor 1908, Leora P 1909. I believe that this may be the same family that you are referring to. I do not have any information at all on The family of Eltha other than my Aunt who is now 81 and sharp as a tack tells me Eltha had a brother John. I would be thrilled with any information that you could share with me. My e-mail address is: juliekeeton1124@yahoo.com

Re: BURNS - Annapolis Co., Nova Scotia

bellatea — 2009-09-27 08:49:10Z

Oh, no.

I was incorrect, I sincerely apologize.

This person has your answers: http://genforum.genealogy.com/burns/messages/6172.html

Re: BURNS - Annapolis Co., Nova Scotia

bellatea — 2009-09-27 08:04:18Z

This is really interesting.

The Robert Burns you mentioned was born around the same time as our Robert Burns who was in Kings County in 1891.

He was married to Alice Koch (spelled Cook in the census) and living with her family during the 1891 Census. According to family legend he went down with his ship.

The only thing preventing me from saying that this is definitely him is that he is 26 in 1891 putting his date of birth at 1865 - 1866.

I'm still researching this, but I was hoping that this would be helpful to you.

Re: John & Elizabeth Burns born in VA, in 1850 reside in Indiana

jjjordan197 — 2009-09-29 15:44:35Z

DB,

I believe that the mother (Ellen) of the Burns family in the 1850 census of Shelby Township, Tippecanoe County, Indiana, that you cite is Eleanor Jordan, daughter of
my 3rd-great grandparents, William Jordan and Blanche Fullerton. Eleanor Jordan married John Burns on January 25, 1816 in Cabell County, (West) Virginia. The Jordans moved from West Virginia to Tippecanoe County, Indiana, in the autumn of 1827; the Burns may have accompanied them or followed soon after, given the birthplaces of the Burns children in the 1850 census. While most of Eleanor's brothers and sisters stayed in Indiana, John, Eleanor and some of their children (not all) moved to Polk County, Missouri, and were living there in 1854 near Eleanor’s sister Margaret, who was married to Dr. William Coon. John and Eleanor can be found in the 1860 and 1870 censuses of Polk County.

I've found several references to the Burns in Tippecanoe County and neighboring Jasper County, Indiana, but I can't find them in Polk County, Missouri, after the 1870 census. Can you help? I'd really like to find their death info and gravesites. In return, I can provide a lot of information on Eleanor's family and Jordan ancestors.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.

Jerry Jordan
Queenstown, Maryland

Re: John & Elizabeth Burns born in VA, in 1850 reside in Indiana

jjjordan197 — 2009-10-01 16:01:05Z

DB,

Wow! What a lot of information. I’m looking forward to digesting it all and following the links you’ve provided. Thanks so much; and it’s great to hear from you!

I’ve been researching the Jordans of West Virginia and Indiana for many years, but didn’t know that Eleanor was related until last week, when I came across a law book giving her name in a lawsuit and describing her as a daughter of William Jordan and sister of Margaret Coon and Mary Murphy. That reference, which proves her relationship to my Jordans, can be found on-line at http://books.google.com/books?id=wQ88AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA517&a... .

I had earlier thought the Jordans might be related to a Burns family because of references in other works, including the following:

- Benjamin Burns (son of John and Eleanor) and Joseph Jordan (grandson of William through his son John Jordan) went into the grocery business together in Remington, Indiana, in 1862 under the name “Burns and Jordan,” according to History of the Town of Remington and Vicinity by James H. Royalty.

- In a letter dated April 9, 1854, from Polk County, Missouri, Dr. William Coon wrote to my g-g-grandfather William (son of William Jordan), “Mr. Burns and family are all well and well satisfied. William Burns and Jasper are going to California this spring with a Mr. Acock.” I originally thought Coon was writing about his own son, Jasper Coon, who was only about 3 years old at the time, but now I think he may have been referring to a Jasper Burns.

I’ve put much of what I know about my Jordan family on line at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jerryjorda... . Enter the site, then click on “William” in the menu at the left to get to Eleanor’s parents and their children. You’ll notice that Eleanor isn’t included since I didn’t have proof of her connection until just recently, but I’ll be adding her family as soon as I can.

Thanks for the link to the land records. There are several listed there for William Jordan and his sons.

You can contact me directly at JordanFamilyResearch@yahoo.com . I look forward to exchanging more family info with you.

Jerry Jordan
Queenstown, Maryland

Re: Burns

rnnellie — 2009-10-12 15:07:24Z

Is Burns her maiden name? There is a Cordelia Adams married to Reason Burns in Marion County, Mississippi in the 1830's.
On Feb 4, 1836, John Adams deeds to children..Cordelia Burns.... Her marriage to Reason Burns is recorded at the Marion Co. Courthouse but I did not record the date as this is not my line. I do have the names of the other children listed in the John Adams deed if names help. Other children were: Winna Jackson, Anna Gibson, Annas Jones, Anderson Adams, and Hester Adams. Marriages for some of the girls are at the courthouse.

Re: John & Elizabeth Burns born in VA, in 1850 reside in Indiana

familysearch4u — 2009-10-01 17:37:24Z

Jerry,
Thank you so much for all of the info! Your help is much appreciated. If you need to contact me further, my email is majerdm@yahoo.com. Thanks! DB

Re: John & Elizabeth Burns born in VA, in 1850 reside in Indiana

familysearch4u — 2009-10-01 15:37:04Z

Jerry,
Thank you for contacting me and posting. Your people are definitely the same as my people. I'm excited to have broken through this brick wall thanks to you. Please be sure to check the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and search the Indiana land patents for William Jordan and John Burns/Burnes. There are maps on that website as well so you can see where their patents in Indiana were located.

http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/

Also, Elizabeth/Betsy Burns (my gg-grandmother), daughter of John Burns and Eleanor Jordan, married Zimri Stubbs on 20 Aug 1851. Their marriage license was one of the earliest recorded in Tippicanoe Co., Indiana--I got a copy their marriage record. Zimri was the son of John C. Stubbs and Rhoda Whitcomb. The Stubbs family were of Quaker roots and descended from early Quaker immigrants Thomas Stubbs who was married to Mary Minor. The Stubbs family migrated South from Pennsylvania to North Carolina and Georgia before moving west. Zimri Stubss was a gg-grandson of Thomas Stubbs. Zimri's wife, Elizabeth Burns Stubbs (dau. of John Burns & Eleanor Jordan), died in childbirth in March 1860 in Americus, Breckenridge/now Lyon Co., Kansas. She is found in the 1860 mortality index for Americus, Breckenridge Co., Kansas. She left behind 3 daughters ages 2-5: Mary Ellen Stubbs, Cythia Jane Stubbs, and Rhoda Alice Stubbs. Zimri Stubbs remarried twice more and died intestate in Winfield,Cowley Co., Kansas. I should mention that Zimri's mother, Rhoda Whitcomb was a first cousin of Indiana Governor & U.S. Senator James Whitcomb. http://www.nga.org/portal/site/nga/menuitem.29fab9fb4add3730...

1860 Federal Census, Greene Twp., Polk Co., Missouri (Sentenel Prairie Post Office), enumerated 20 July 1860

Burns, John, 69, farmer, born in Virginia
Burns, Ellenor, 65, born in Virginia

Same page
Burns, Pallen or Patter [this is David P.], 41, farmer, born in Virginia
Burns, Eliza, 26, born in Tennessee
Burns, Martha, 17, born in Indiana (prob. David's sister)
Burns, John, 15, born in Indiana (prob. David's brother)
Burns, Margaret, 7, born in Missouri
Burns, Jane, 5, born in Missouri
Burns, William 4, born in Missouri
Burns, Jo Noah, 3, born in Missouri
Burns, Emily, 1, born in Missouri
******************************************************

1870 Federal Census for Greene Twp., Polk Co., Missouri (Bolivar Post Office), enumerated 3 August 1870

Burns, John S., 78, farmer, born in Virginia
Burns, Ellen, 78?, born in Virginia
Burns, John Jr., 26, born in Indiana
Burns, Rebecca, 17, born in Missouri (John's wife)

separate household:
Burns, David P., 50, farmer, born in Virginia
Burns, Margaret, 18, born in Missouri
Burns, Betsy J., 16, at school, born in Missouri
Burns, William T., 14, at school, born in Missouri
Burns, Jo N., 12, born in Missouri
Burns, Emily, 10, born in Missouri
Burns, Mary A., 8, born in Missouri
Burns, Charles B., 6, born in Missouri
Burns, Jasper, 4, born in Missouri
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1880 Federal Census for Greene Twp., Polk Co., Missouri

Burns, John, 36, head, farmer, born in Indiana
Burns, Rebecca, 27, wife, born in Missouri
Shaham?, John W., 9, adopted son, born in Missouri

separate household, same page:
Burns, David P., 60, farmer, born in Virginia
Burns, Sallie, 39, wife, born in Missouri
Burns, William T., son, 24, born in Missouri
Burns, Elizabeth 22, son, born in Missouri
Burns, Mollie [Mary?] 17, dau., born in Missouri
Burns, Charlie, 15, son, born in Missouri
Burns, Jasper, 13, son, born in Missouri
Burns, David C., 3, son, born in Missouri
Burns, Sallie Maria, 3/12, dau.,born in Missouri
Burns, Manda, 3/12, granddaughter, born in Missouri (could she be a twin of Sallie Maria?)

On the same page, listed with the household of Jane Hoart? (could Jane be the daughter of David), 37, are two people named Burns: Jasper Burns 23, and Emeline Burns 24. Not sure if there is any relationship to John S. or David P. Burns.
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There is no 1890 Federal Census--It burned in a fire.
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1900 Federal Census for Greene Twp.District 124, Polk Co., Missouri, enumerated 3 Jun 1900:

Burns, David P., head, born Mar 1819, 81, widowed, he was born in VA, both parents born in VA
Rader, Mary A., dau., born Jun 1862, 36, widowed, she was born in Missouri, father born in VA, mother born in Tennessee
Rader, Jessie L., granddaughter, born Oct 1884, 15, single, she was born in Missouri, both parents born in Missouri
Rader, Wallace, grandson, 10/11, born July 1889, he and both parents born in Missouri
Burns, Charles, son, born 1864, 36, he and both parents born in Missouri? (David was born in VA)

separate household:
Burns, William T., head, born May 1877?, married 9 yrs., he was born in Missouri, father born in VA, mother born in Missouri
Burns, Hattie, wife, born Dec 1872, 27, married 9 yrs (1891), born in Missouri, both parents born in Missouri
Burns, Thurman, son, born May 1892, 8, he was born in Missouri, both parents born in Missouri
Burns, Erma, dau., born Feb. 1894, 6, she and both parents born in Missouri
Burns, Anna, dau., born 1897, 2, she and both parents born in Missouri
Burns, un-named, dau., born May 1900, 0/12, she and both parents born in Missouri (the baby girl appears to be only a few days old)

THERE ARE MANY OTHER PEOPLE SURNAMED BURNS LIVING IN POLK COUNTY, MISSOURI BY 1900.
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Source: Internet Website:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~mopolk/polklemm.txt

Copied from The Bolivar Herald Newspaper, Thursday, July 28, 1937 (This splendid historical article, written by one of the brainiest men the county ever produced, was written 61 years ago and read by its author at the 4th of July celebration in 1876 in Bolivar. One of the greatest crowds that ever assembled in Bolivar gathered for the celebration. We trust that our readers will cut the article out and save it for its historical value.--Ed. Herald, July 28th, 1937)

HISTORICAL AND DESCRIPTIVE SKETCH OF POLK COUNTY
PREPARED FOR THE CENTENNIAL CELEBRATION
ON THE FOURTH OF JULY, 1876
By A. C. LEMMON

Burns, 3, 5, 12, 13

GREENE TOWNSHIP Greene Township is located in the northeast corner of the county, length from east to west 10 miles, width from north to south 7 1/2 miles, containing 75 square miles; population in 1870- 1904, estimated in 1876 at 1,200. There are no towns or villages, but one retail store, two post offices, several churches and schoolhouses, no mills of manufactories. Sentinal Prairie is the best and wealthiest portion. The bottom lands on Lindsay creek are rich and well timbered. There are many indications of mineral deposits. Lead is supposed to exist in paying quantities and will doubtless be developed sometime in the near future. The hills and prairies furnish a fine pasture for live stock. This township was not so early settled as some of the others. B. L. Stephens, Joseph Inks, Jacob Ballinger, John and James Jump, John Howe, Samuel Rutherford, Brice Stewart, Leonard Richards, Derrit Barclay, Hugh Estes, Evan Stewart, Rev. Gallison and John Burns were among the first settlers. John Jump is the oldest citizen in the township is now eighty-four years of age. He was a soldier of the war of 1812 so were Evan Stewart and John Burns.

MILITARY Of the veterans of 1812, but few are now living in our midst. They have nearly all passed away. Of the living, we are able to name the following, all of whom have attained to advanced ages, to-wit: John Burns, Evan Stewart, John Jump, Allen Bridges, Rev. Jas. Kennon, Phillip Watkins, Mattias Chilton and Samuel Sherwood--numbering in all 8 pensioners. One of them, Hartwell Johnson died near Morrisville a few years since, in the 91st year of his age. For several years previous to his death his strength, memory and sight were greatly impaired. Alexander Blair and David Hunter died in 1874, which Henry Potts lived to witness the dawn of the Centennial year.

CONCLUSION Having now reached the conclusion of this historical and descriptive sketch we beg leave to state that the brief space of time allotted us for its preparation, together with the difficulty and delay in obtaining facts outside of official records have prevented the introduction of many events and occurrences that ought not to be omitted in a sketch of this character. Many of the incidents and circumstances herein recorded are taken from the recollection of the parties furnishing them, and as they cover a long period of time, they may not in all cases be substantially as the occurred, but in the main we think their correctness will not be disputed. In making personal reference we have not intentionally omitted and person whose name should have occurred in connection with the early settlement of the townships or county. We have in most instances given them as they were furnished by others. To the following gentlemen, we are under many obligations for the information furnished by them in reference to their respective localities, viz: Col. James M. Johnson, John E. Rains, and John Watson of Bolivar. Capt. J. W. Burns of Halfway, Geo. W. Williams of Humansville, Dr. A. C. Sloan of Walnut Grove, Henry Gardner of Pleasant Hope, James M. Zumwalt of Sentinal Prairie, Milton Brown of Jefferson Township, James Stockton and Silas Fox of Madison and W. H. King of Jackson, also to A. J. Hunter, circuit clerk, and A. J. Lower, Recorder, for statistics and historical facts gathered from the records in their offices, and we are especially indebted to James W. Rains, Esq. for his arduous labors in searching through and examining official records, and for other valuable assistance rendered in the preparation of the sketch.
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Some other information:
For maps:
http://www.arphax.com/tippecanoe-in

There is a burial for a Gerard Burns with members of the Miller and Patten families on the page below. I wonder if "Patten" could be the name David went by in the 1860 census?
http://www.tippecanoe.in.gov/egov/docs/1126713330_814361.pdf

Some Miscellaneous info about Burns (Indiana Burns):
http://www.angelfire.com/nf/burnscharles/washingtonburns.htm...

History of Polk County, Missouri (mentions a John Burns):
http://tuckness.com/gen/showmedia.php?mediaID=130

See page 279 on the link below or do a "CTRL F" (hold control key and the F key at the same time) they type John Burns in the pop up box and, click on next.
http://polk.mogenweb.org/po_co_settlers.html

Hope this helps. I am anxious to learn more about Ellenor Jordan's family from you. Thanks DB

Re: James Howard Burns

suntavern — 2009-10-02 04:38:50Z

Elliott was born May 10, 1892. His WWII draft card can be found on ancestry.com. I am the grandson of James H. Burns, younger brother of Elliott and Helen's twin. You have more information that I for our great grandfather but I hope to get information w/ the help of Ancestry.com. I have found a fair amount of information for Gottfried Rossberg.

Re: Burns/Borger- Aus

s_fai — 2009-10-03 10:23:04Z

Hi, My ancestor is Frances M E Byrnes. daughter of Frances Ann Byrnes/Borger(nee Chapman) of Kempsey NSW Australia.
Im not a member of ancestry yet. But Id love to get in contact with you.Maybe I can help you?
Cheers
Sharon