Eileen: I have not heard from anyone concerning the Hasenclever Germans. You asked me to reply if I didn't.
It's very possible my ancestor, William Butz/Butts, is the one listed at the forge in NJ, who then moved to Berks Co. PA, as his name is listed in the Goshenhoppen Catholic Church records there, being married to a Magdalen Kuhn, August 13, 1776. My ancestor, John Henry Butz/Butts, whose father is listed as William, was born in Berks County. There is a John Henry Butts listed in those same records, son of Christian and his wife Catherine,born Aug.1, 1777, so maybe my records were wrong...old Bible records.
Any suggestions? Jane Butts Kilgore