I have no managed to discover a little more about Herbert, including finding when and where he died. Herbert was born in Gorton Manchester in 1883 to an Elizabeth Callister who was working as a domestic servant. He married Marth Alice Cheetham in Tyldesley Lancashire in Dec. 1902. In 1914 he was living in Herbert Street St Helens. Was reported missing from hom early 1923 - body pulled out of Rumworth Lodge in September of that year was mistakenly identified as his. Discovered alive and living in Manchester in April 1927 spent some months in Leigh Union Hospital until his army pension could be restored. Then disappeared. i have subsequently found out he actually died in July 1946 at Delauneys Road, Crumpsall. I have been unable to find Herbert on any Census records prior to 1911. Has anyone out there come across Herbert during their searches?