Latest update on Simpson B Carmack (1818-1870), Bedford/Fulton Co. Pennsylvania.
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Latest update on Simpson B Carmack (1818-1870), Bedford/Fulton Co. Pennsylvania.
 dickalloway190
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Posted: 25 Nov 2007 6:04PM GMT |
Classification: Query
Surnames: Carmack, Baker
I would like everyone that has Simpson as the son of Peter, son of Evan to please remove that connection since I'm sure this false data came from the Carmack Cousins Newsletter or from Prescott Carmack's work. I have never found any offical data to validate it and much to invalidate it.
Simpson shows up in the 1850, 1860, and 1870 Pa. Fulton County Dublin Twp Census records.
I have Simpson's family bible and it lists Catharine Carmack, born Feb 24, 1782; Simpson, born Jan 24, 1818; and Mitilda Ann, born Feb 23, 1823. This didn't help me much because Evan Carmack, who had moved to Bedford Co., PA around 1800; had a daughter Catherine which never married and died in 1848. Here is the record from the orphan's court in Bedford county:
The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania to the Sheriff of Bedford County, Greetings, Whereas, Uriah Rimbey, one of the heirs and legal representatives of Catharine Carmack, late of St. Clair Township, in the County of Bedford, dec. presented a petition to the Orphans Court of said County, setting forth, that your petitioners late Aunt lately died intestate, leaving no ipue, but brothers and sisters and their children to wit, Elizabeth Derrin, residing in Maryland, the Ipue of Jacob Carmack dec. vig. Evan residing in Green County and Samuel, Jacob, Martha intermarried with _____ Otto , and two other daughters names not known, all living in Maryland and Virginia. The ipue of Peter Carmack dec. to wit Abraham, Daniel supposed to be in Ohio, Peter, Rachel intermarried with William Sleck living in Bedford County, Margaret intermarried with John Appleman, and Maria Dobson in Bedfor County, & the children of Elizabeth Rimbey in Bedford County, vig, George Rimbey, Uriah, Louisa, Catharine Baylor, & Mary Ann. The Ipue of Mary Hann dec, vig, Philip, Benjamin, Hugh, William, and one daughter supposed to be Margaret, all living in Maryland. Ipue of Margaret Murphy dec., vig, Joshua, William, and Elizabeth, living in Maryland. and the ipue of Sarah Grimes dec. vig, John living in Ohio & Martin, Elizabeth, Mary and one other daughter whose name is not known, all living in Maryland. And that the said intestate died seized in her demesne as of fee of and in the following described Real Estate situate in the said County, ......
It indicates that she has no children and lists all of the families of her brothers and sisters. Simpson is not listed as a son of Peter, even though he lived in Bedford Co./Fulton Co. his entire life.
I found this internet hit on Matilda Carmack:
Reference; HISTORY OF HARDIN CO., OHIO, WARNER, BEERS & CO., 1883
IRVIN S. BAKER, farmer, P. O. Larue, is a native of this county, and was born December 25, 1846. He is a son of Joseph and Matilda (Carmack) Baker, both natives of Pennsylvania and of German parentage. This struck my interest because Baker was a local name in Dublin Twp., Bedford County about that time. I did some checking and found a very close neighbor of Simpson in the 1850 census, a Nathan Baker. From the History of Bedford, Somerset, and Fulton Counties, Pennsylvania, 1884
"Nathan Baker, a native of Chester County, moved to Dublin township in 1818. After renting farms for fifteen years, he purchased two hundred and twenty acres of land, settled by James Justice in 1795. Mr. Baker married Barbara Hause, of Chester County, in 1820. Children: Jesse, John, Benjamin, and Joseph, deceased; Hannah (Stellinger), Samuel, William, Betsey (Henry), Nathan, and Isaac, living."
The obituary below shows that this Matilda Ward is indeed the same Mitilda from Bedord Co. PA. Joseph Baker, her first husband, was the son of Nathan Baker and Barbara Hause of Bedford Co. PA. Fulton County separated from Bedford Co. in 1850.
From the 1860 Dudley Twp, Hardin county, OH census:
Thomas Ward, age 60 born in England
Matilda Ward, age 37 born in PA
Azabella Ward (?) age 15 born in OH
Irvin S Baker, age 13, born in OH
Portius W Baker, age 11, born in OH
Ida Francis Ward, age 1 born in OH
Catherine Carmack, age 78, born in MD
The birth years match exactly for Matilda and Catharine.
More research on Matilda Carmack turned up her obituary:
Reference; The Kenton Daily Democrat, Monday, April 6, 1914
Dawn of Sabbath - Brought Peack and Happiness To Grand-Mother Ward - Who Lived To Enjoy Fullness of Christian Life
Sunday morning there dawned the day that brought peace and rest to Mrs. Matilda Ann Ward, for the tired spirit of the gentle, kind and venerable woman quiely returned to its maker. Death occurred at the home of her grand daughter, Mrs. E. L. Slagle on N. Main St. After an illness of eleven weeks, brought on by a broken arm resulting from a fall, she welcomed the call of her Maker and was happy in the thought of going home.
Her beautiful Christian life will be an inspiration to countless friends who while realizing that she would not much longer be of this world, feel none the less the sad blow of her death. Her unimpaired mental faculties at the age of 91 years seem a fitting reward for her cheerfulness and sweet patience, and her kindly consideration for others. She was a member of the 1st M E Church of this city and while her health permitted had been an earnst and devoted church worker.
She was one of the oldest residents of Kenton and was beloved by all who knew her. In the loss of her companship those who loved her will miss her and will ever cherish her in their memory.
Mrs. Ward was born in Shirley, Pa., in Jan 26, 1823. She was the daughter of John and Catharine Carmack and was early the comfort of a widowed mother. In 1842 she was united in marriage of Joseph Baker, and coming to Hardin Counth resided here until his death. The children were born to union, Mrs. W A Potter, of Jeffers, Minn., P W Baker, of east of the city, and I S Baker of Kenton. In 1850 she was married to Thomas Ward and since his death she has made her home in Kenton. Of four daughters born to them, two survive, Mrs. W W Holland and Mrs. C C Biddle both of this city.
The furneral services will be held Tuesday afternoon at the home of her daughter Mrs. W W Holland of North Market St. Rev W McK Brackney will have charge of services. Burial will be made in Grove Cemetery. Friends are requested not to send flowers.
Reference; Certificate of Death
b- 1/26/1823
d- 4/5/1914 aged 91 yrs 2 mos 9 days
Birthplace- Penna
Father- Jno Carmack b- Md
Mother- Catharine White b- Md
cause of death- septic & General Failure following a fall.
The 1830 Pa. Bedford Co. Dublin Twp lists Catharine Carmack as head of household. This would indicate that John Carmack would have died between 1823-1830. John Carmack should show up in the 1820 PA Census, since census records indicate that Simpson and Matilda were both born in PA. I have no found this census record. We also need a John Carmack, born about 1775 give or take 5 years. I haven't found a candidate for this either. With the tie in to Susannah I initially thought that Catharine may have been her sister and her children were illegimate. Matilda's death certificate would indicate that this is not the case. A DNA test by a male descendant of Simpson Carmack would prove if he was descendant of Cornelius Carmack or not.
Simpson shows up in the 1850, 1860, and 1870 Pa. Fulton County Dublin Twp Census records.
I have Simpson's family bible and it lists Catharine Carmack, born Feb 24, 1782; Simpson, born Jan 24, 1818; and Mitilda Ann, born Feb 23, 1823. This didn't help me much because Evan Carmack, who had moved to Bedford Co., PA around 1800; had a daughter Catherine which never married and died in 1848. Here is the record from the orphan's court in Bedford county:
The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania to the Sheriff of Bedford County, Greetings, Whereas, Uriah Rimbey, one of the heirs and legal representatives of Catharine Carmack, late of St. Clair Township, in the County of Bedford, dec. presented a petition to the Orphans Court of said County, setting forth, that your petitioners late Aunt lately died intestate, leaving no ipue, but brothers and sisters and their children to wit, Elizabeth Derrin, residing in Maryland, the Ipue of Jacob Carmack dec. vig. Evan residing in Green County and Samuel, Jacob, Martha intermarried with _____ Otto , and two other daughters names not known, all living in Maryland and Virginia. The ipue of Peter Carmack dec. to wit Abraham, Daniel supposed to be in Ohio, Peter, Rachel intermarried with William Sleck living in Bedford County, Margaret intermarried with John Appleman, and Maria Dobson in Bedfor County, & the children of Elizabeth Rimbey in Bedford County, vig, George Rimbey, Uriah, Louisa, Catharine Baylor, & Mary Ann. The Ipue of Mary Hann dec, vig, Philip, Benjamin, Hugh, William, and one daughter supposed to be Margaret, all living in Maryland. Ipue of Margaret Murphy dec., vig, Joshua, William, and Elizabeth, living in Maryland. and the ipue of Sarah Grimes dec. vig, John living in Ohio & Martin, Elizabeth, Mary and one other daughter whose name is not known, all living in Maryland. And that the said intestate died seized in her demesne as of fee of and in the following described Real Estate situate in the said County, ......
It indicates that she has no children and lists all of the families of her brothers and sisters. Simpson is not listed as a son of Peter, even though he lived in Bedford Co./Fulton Co. his entire life.
I found this internet hit on Matilda Carmack:
Reference; HISTORY OF HARDIN CO., OHIO, WARNER, BEERS & CO., 1883
IRVIN S. BAKER, farmer, P. O. Larue, is a native of this county, and was born December 25, 1846. He is a son of Joseph and Matilda (Carmack) Baker, both natives of Pennsylvania and of German parentage. This struck my interest because Baker was a local name in Dublin Twp., Bedford County about that time. I did some checking and found a very close neighbor of Simpson in the 1850 census, a Nathan Baker. From the History of Bedford, Somerset, and Fulton Counties, Pennsylvania, 1884
"Nathan Baker, a native of Chester County, moved to Dublin township in 1818. After renting farms for fifteen years, he purchased two hundred and twenty acres of land, settled by James Justice in 1795. Mr. Baker married Barbara Hause, of Chester County, in 1820. Children: Jesse, John, Benjamin, and Joseph, deceased; Hannah (Stellinger), Samuel, William, Betsey (Henry), Nathan, and Isaac, living."
The obituary below shows that this Matilda Ward is indeed the same Mitilda from Bedord Co. PA. Joseph Baker, her first husband, was the son of Nathan Baker and Barbara Hause of Bedford Co. PA. Fulton County separated from Bedford Co. in 1850.
From the 1860 Dudley Twp, Hardin county, OH census:
Thomas Ward, age 60 born in England
Matilda Ward, age 37 born in PA
Azabella Ward (?) age 15 born in OH
Irvin S Baker, age 13, born in OH
Portius W Baker, age 11, born in OH
Ida Francis Ward, age 1 born in OH
Catherine Carmack, age 78, born in MD
The birth years match exactly for Matilda and Catharine.
More research on Matilda Carmack turned up her obituary:
Reference; The Kenton Daily Democrat, Monday, April 6, 1914
Dawn of Sabbath - Brought Peack and Happiness To Grand-Mother Ward - Who Lived To Enjoy Fullness of Christian Life
Sunday morning there dawned the day that brought peace and rest to Mrs. Matilda Ann Ward, for the tired spirit of the gentle, kind and venerable woman quiely returned to its maker. Death occurred at the home of her grand daughter, Mrs. E. L. Slagle on N. Main St. After an illness of eleven weeks, brought on by a broken arm resulting from a fall, she welcomed the call of her Maker and was happy in the thought of going home.
Her beautiful Christian life will be an inspiration to countless friends who while realizing that she would not much longer be of this world, feel none the less the sad blow of her death. Her unimpaired mental faculties at the age of 91 years seem a fitting reward for her cheerfulness and sweet patience, and her kindly consideration for others. She was a member of the 1st M E Church of this city and while her health permitted had been an earnst and devoted church worker.
She was one of the oldest residents of Kenton and was beloved by all who knew her. In the loss of her companship those who loved her will miss her and will ever cherish her in their memory.
Mrs. Ward was born in Shirley, Pa., in Jan 26, 1823. She was the daughter of John and Catharine Carmack and was early the comfort of a widowed mother. In 1842 she was united in marriage of Joseph Baker, and coming to Hardin Counth resided here until his death. The children were born to union, Mrs. W A Potter, of Jeffers, Minn., P W Baker, of east of the city, and I S Baker of Kenton. In 1850 she was married to Thomas Ward and since his death she has made her home in Kenton. Of four daughters born to them, two survive, Mrs. W W Holland and Mrs. C C Biddle both of this city.
The furneral services will be held Tuesday afternoon at the home of her daughter Mrs. W W Holland of North Market St. Rev W McK Brackney will have charge of services. Burial will be made in Grove Cemetery. Friends are requested not to send flowers.
Reference; Certificate of Death
b- 1/26/1823
d- 4/5/1914 aged 91 yrs 2 mos 9 days
Birthplace- Penna
Father- Jno Carmack b- Md
Mother- Catharine White b- Md
cause of death- septic & General Failure following a fall.
The 1830 Pa. Bedford Co. Dublin Twp lists Catharine Carmack as head of household. This would indicate that John Carmack would have died between 1823-1830. John Carmack should show up in the 1820 PA Census, since census records indicate that Simpson and Matilda were both born in PA. I have no found this census record. We also need a John Carmack, born about 1775 give or take 5 years. I haven't found a candidate for this either. With the tie in to Susannah I initially thought that Catharine may have been her sister and her children were illegimate. Matilda's death certificate would indicate that this is not the case. A DNA test by a male descendant of Simpson Carmack would prove if he was descendant of Cornelius Carmack or not.