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Re: Indian Ancestry in Grayson Co Carrico's

Diana_Gale_Matthiesen — 2012-06-03 23:50:18Z

Which supports what many, including me, have long contended, that there is no such thing as a Melungeon "race."

The Y-DNA test results of the core Melungeon families show a predominance of European and sub-Saharan African haplogroups (viz., R1b1a2 and E1b1a, respectively):
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/coremelungeon/default.as...

And please note, not a single J2a4b.

Re: Indian Ancestry in Grayson Co Carrico's

Diana_Gale_Matthiesen — 2012-06-03 23:22:37Z

The DNA evidence tells us not only that we "connect," but that we connect "in genealogical time," that is, within 10-15 generations. That connection is solid whether you have paper to support it, or not. If you have this haplotype:

http://dgmweb.net/DNA/Carrico/CarricoDNA-results-HgJ2a4b.htm...

you are either descended from Peter CARRICO, 1674 immigrant to Maryland, or someone very closely related to him (e.g., a brother, uncle, or close cousin). So far, Peter appears to have been the only CARRICO immigrant to the U.S. prior to the 20th Century, so the probablity is high that he's your ancestor.

When the DNA and the paper don't agree, as with the paper descendants of Reason CARRICO, we say the DNA is correct and the paper is wrong:
http://dgmweb.net/FGS/Car/CarricoReason-ElizabethEngle.html

Reason CARRICO must be an adopted son of Charles CARRICO, not his biological son, because descendants of the other sons of Charles do match Peter, the immigrant. In other words, it's possible for the DNA to prove the paper wrong, but it's simply not possible for the paper to prove the DNA wrong. DNA always trumps paper.

That doesn't mean we stop searching for the paper connections — far from it — but it does suggest that the first step in doing one's genealogy ought to be DNA testing. I implore all men, not just all male CARRICOs to by Y-DNA tested, if not for yourself, they for family genealogists, now and in the future.

Re: Indian Ancestry in Grayson Co Carrico's

lboorom4 — 2012-06-03 22:42:48Z

Might I also state that DNA without a paper trail to confirm the results tell us only that we all connect. It is the paper trail that confirms the connection.

I am still trying to search the "paper" trail to connect those of us who descend from Peter.

Re: Indian Ancestry in Grayson Co Carrico's

lboorom4 — 2012-06-03 20:20:57Z

This was recently published regarding a Melungeon DNA study.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/24/melungeon-dna-study...

Re: Indian Ancestry in Grayson Co Carrico's

Diana_Gale_Matthiesen — 2012-06-03 19:59:06Z

Uhhh, make that "converso," not "converson," and "subsidizes," not "susides." Call me fumble-fingers.

Re: Indian Ancestry in Grayson Co Carrico's

Diana_Gale_Matthiesen — 2012-06-03 19:51:29Z

Y-DNA testing clearly shows that Peter CARRICO, 1674 immigrant to Maryland, was not African or Amerindian. His Y-DNA haplogroup (J2a4b) indicates an Anatolian-Mediterranean origin. Please see Map E on this page:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1181965/figure/F...

"Melungeon" is not a race or ethnicity, it's a culture, so it has no genetic signature that unites it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melungeon

And there's nothing to suggest that Peter or any of his descendants were part of that culture. CARRICO is not a recognized Melungeon surname, they are not remotely a genetic match with any of them so far tested, and they aren't known to have lived in their communities.

If you look at the early census records of the counties where the Melungeons mainly settled, namely, Hawkins and Hancock Cos., TN, and Lee Co., VA, you find that no CARRICOs, at all, lived in Tennessee before 1860 and only one CARRICO family lived briefly in Lee Co., VA:
http://dgmweb.net/Census/Carrico/VA/CarricoCenTime-VA.html#L...

I'm stretching my memory here, but I do not recall that any of the early CARRICOs were labeled black or mulatto, which they likely would have been had they been Melungeon. The only antebellum census record of an African-American CARRICO I've found, so far, is an Amy CARRICO (b. ca. 1780 in MD) living in the 1850 census of Spencer Co., KY, neither of which locations suggests she was Melungeon:
http://dgmweb.net/Census/Carrico/KY/CarricoCenTime-KY.html#S...

Given that many American CARRICO families once owned slaves, we would expect that there were CARRICO males who fathered children with them, and we do find African-American families in the U.S. census who are surnamed CARRICO — after the Civil War, when African-American began being enumerated in the census. Through Y-DNA testing, it would be possible to determine whether any of the living male "black" CARRICOs are biological descendants of Peter or whether they simply adopted their owner's surname when freed.

Bottom line: DNA evidence proves an Anatolian-Mediterranean origin of Peter CARRICO. His surname suggests an origin in Portugal, Spain, or Italy. History and his haplogroup suggest he might have been a Jewish Converso.

Re: Indian Ancestry in Grayson Co Carrico's

Diana_Gale_Matthiesen — 2012-06-03 19:50:31Z

Re: Indian Ancestry in Grayson Co Carrico's

Diana_Gale_Matthiesen — 2012-06-03 17:59:31Z

Numerous descendants of Peter CARRICO, 1674 immigrant to Maryland, have been Y-DNA tested. They are all Haplogroup J2a4b:
http://dgmweb.net/DNA/Carrico/CarricoDNA-results-HgJ2a4b.htm...

There's nothing to suggest, either genetically, geographically, or genealogically, that Peter CARRICO was a Melungeon. His origin remains unproven, but it weighs in the direction of his being a "Converson," that is, a Portugues Jew who was forced to convert to Catholicism during the Spanish Inquisition.

The CARRICO Y-DNA signature is not just unique, it's quite unlike that of anyone else so far Y-DNA tested. Our nearest matches indicate a common ancestor thousands of years ago, well before the beginning of "genealogical time." The lack of DNA matches for the descendants of Peter CARRICO is the reason the CARRICO Y-DNA project seeks and subsides the testing of non-American CARRICOs, in the hope of someday "crossing the pond."

In the meantime, there's simply nothing to suggest he was Melungeon. He doesn't bear a known Melungeon surname, he didn't live where they lived, and he doesn't remotely have a Y-DNA match with any of them. He is neither African or Amerindian, but genetically "Anatolian - Mediterranean." See Map E on this page for a distribution of haplogroup subclade J-M67:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1181965/figure/F...

Some contend his immediate origin was France, and there are definitely CARRICOs living in France, today, just as there are ones living in the U.S., today, but his genetic haplogroup indicates an earlier origin elsewhere. And the reason for his migration may have been that he was Jewish and escaping persecution. In any case, Peter's story is an interesting one, one I hope we can unravel, and it is probably only through Y-DNA testing that we will.

Re: Indian Ancestry in Grayson Co Carrico's

somersetsquaw — 2012-06-02 23:07:24Z

DNA Testing should reveal some clues. Has any testing been done?

Re: Indian Ancestry in Grayson Co Carrico's

Gene_Hutson — 2012-06-02 22:59:04Z

Long held in oral history is Melungean ancestry, supposedly, the first Peter Carrico was dumped off on the shore to fend for himself, then you have he may have been an indentured servant. We may never know.

Gene

Indian Ancestry in Grayson Co Carrico's

ragingduct — 2012-06-02 21:41:32Z

Just wondering if anyone knows of any indian or melungean ancestry in the Carrico's of Grayson County,Va.

Re: Kerrico

sdscls2 — 2012-05-21 22:00:46Z

Just to let all of you know, Alice (Crane) Kerrico died this past week in Lancaster, California. She was a wonderful lady and my grandfather's 1st cousin. She was the daughter of Thurston and Anna Hankins Crane.

Re: Elbert/Elizabeth Carrico of Virginia????????

dandevaney4999 — 2012-01-12 23:46:56Z

Do you have any first names or dates? We have several Cyldes.

Dan

Re: Elbert/Elizabeth Carrico of Virginia????????

luckykittymeow — 2012-01-12 11:25:50Z

My Grandmother was married to a Clyde Carrico (my grandfather)she was from Va. I know nothing of my grandfather. This is why im here. He had 11 children lived in Elizabethton,Tennessee. Just starting this quest if i find anything that relates to your family i will check back with you. Good luck. Melissa.

Re: origan of the name carrico - Message #199

luckykittymeow — 2012-01-12 11:16:24Z

My mother was a Carrico (frenchie) and her mother (my Grandmother) was lula b. carrico and she cam to east tennessee to get married from va. (mabe) im ashamed that i don't know more. Id like to know what origin of the name carrico heard it was portugal?

CARRICO James L Kit 1906 1991

t42IOOF_DenCoTX — 2012-01-01 16:54:17Z

CARRICO James L Kit 1906 1991 married 9 Jul 1933

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CARRICO Mary Lou 1911 1992

t42IOOF_DenCoTX — 2012-01-01 16:53:59Z

CARRICO Mary Lou 1911 1992 married 9 Jul 1933

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CARRICO Ross L 1914-1935

t42MountOlivet — 2012-01-01 16:53:17Z

CARRICO 1 Ross L 1914-1935

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CARRICO John E 1905-1944

t42MountOlivet — 2012-01-01 16:52:53Z

CARRICO 1 John E 1905-1944

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CARRICO Joseph D Sr 1901-1952

t42MountOlivet — 2012-01-01 16:52:36Z

CARRICO 1 Joseph D Sr 1901-1952

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CARRICO Thomas H and Ellen O

t42MountOlivet — 2012-01-01 16:52:18Z

CARRICO 1 Thomas H and Ellen O

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Re: Carrico origins

dmjohnsond — 2012-01-01 13:54:54Z

I copy this years ago from an onlne family file:

Our Carrico Family line begins in the early 17th Century with Peter Carricoe or Curricoe. Notes from Robert Alvey, Researcher & Descendent: "Traditions have been handed down through the family "The first record found in Maryland shows transportation of one Peter Carrico to Maryland in 1657. This Peter, possibly the father of the others, may have obtained a land grant in Charles County, Maryland and then returned to France for his family. The second trip was made in their own ship called "La Voyage". It was manned by a group of brothers, among them were a pair of twins, Peter & Paul, believed to have been the oldest and a sister Jane. They began a settlement in Charles County at Bryantown, Maryland. A Peter Carricoe immigrated to Maryland in 1674 as an indentured servant on an English ship. A warrant was issued on 17 June 1674 for 650 acres to Samuel Dobson of Charles County, Maryland for the transportation of 13 persons - John Daniels, Roger Roberts, Thomas Thompson, John Tibbot, Alexander Seasor, Samuel Lee, Henry keeling, Ralph Givin, William Marsh, George Sutton, John Dorrinton, Peter Curico and Mary Cooke (Charles County Patent Book 18, page 80.).

From whence the Carricos emigrated to the Colonies is shrouded in the mists of the years. Every branch of the family has its tradition as to the original homeland of the family, Portugal, France, Italy, Spain, England and Scotland have their proponents. Those who favor Scotland has their claim upon a somewhat tortuous evolution of the name from "McFearchar." It is feared that those who claim Spain are guilty of an assumption based upon the Latin sound of the name. Those who assert that France was the home of the family maintain that many of "The Old Folks" spoke French fluently. This group claims that the name was originally "Carriceau" or Carricoits" and that a Nun named Carricoits attained sainthood in France. Those who claim Italy as the old work home of the family have two unrelated incidents to reinforce their tradition. The first was a letter received by the author of this article (Homer E. Carrico) in 1930 from Leander C. Carrico of Fort Smith, Arkansas., who stated, "Our family has always claimed that the family came from Northern Italy where there was a village named 'Carrico',". The other incident occurred in the later years of World War II when a man who described himself as a former Italian prisoner-of-war, but whose status then was that of a co-belligerent, telephoned Miss Stella Carrico in Louisville, Kentucky and in the course of the conversation stated that 'My mother's maiden name was Carrico and she lived in a village named 'Carrico' in Northern Italy". Those who claim Portugal have an interesting unproven theory. Documentation at the Municipal Library in MontemoroNovo, Portugal describes the case of Pero Dias Carrico. Pero is Portugese for Peter. Pero Dias Carrico was imprisoned by the Spanish Inquisition in 1629 for the crime of "Judaismo." It is not known if he was actually Jewish or the charges were trumped up. Those imprisoned had to buy their way out, so the wealthy were at risk. After four years, Pero Dias converted to Catholicism, paid his fines, and flew the country, possibly to France. There is no supporting documents that Pero Dias Carrico and Peter Curricoe are of the same blood line, however, the only country outside of the United States where Carrico is common is Portugal. Pero Dias was 52 years old sometime during his imprisonment which makes his year of birth about 1579 and is the son of Mauel Pires Carrico and Brites Fernandez. Manuel Pirez Carrico is the son of pero Dias Carrico and Maria Lima/Simoes.

The Carrico name is found in nearly every state in the Union, and all or most of the migration to the Central and Western states was through Kentucky. The name has a number of variations in spelling, the most usual from being CARRICO, which is used throughout this article, other spellings found have been: CARICO, CARICOE, CARRICOE, CARRACHO, CALICO, CALLICO and CERICO. The Carricos were and are adherents of many religious sects - Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Presbyterians, and Mormans have been encountered.

Peter Carricoe and other family members decided to return to France to sell all property there, purchase stock and seed and equipment and furnishings, also to bring members of the family who had remained at home in France. Peter had married and begun a family, so he was left behind to take care of the new settlement. Possibly some of the other brothers left wives and family in Peters charge. The ship was loaded and they set sail again from a port in France (it is claimed that they lived along the Spanish/French border, possibly near the port of Bordeau in the north, or Marsailles in the south. They did not make it back to the Maryland colony. The ship was either lost at sea or attacked and captured and killed by pirates. Only Peter and his family and possibly the wife and family of one or two of his brothers remained from whom the Carrico family in the United States descend.

Peter was born about 1655 in Normandy, France and had four sons, Peter, Abel, Gerald and James, and one daughter, Jane, from whom we can track most of the Carricos, but a few who we cannot connect, leading tot he belief that another brother may have left a wife and children. Peter Carrico was given a 50 acre land grant in 1681. He sold 60 acres of land to Walter Story in Charles County in 1707. Peters wife has probably died by this time as she is not listed on the deed. In 1719, Peter requested to be relieved from taxation due to old age.

The names Abel and Peter appear in Maryland records early in the 1700's. "The progenitors of the Carrico family in America, according to tradition and such small amount of documentary references as has been found, were Peter of Carrico Hope in Bryantown Hundred, Charles County, Maryland and Abel of Charles County, and also of Fairfax County, Virginia. A tradition, stoutly asserted by some Carrico descendants, is that an earlier Peter Carrico, father of Peter and Abel, came to the Colonies under the auspices of the second Lord Baltimore. Without doubt Peter and Abel were brothers, as their marriages in MD were within a few years of each other. Although there has been no written record found, tradition has it that the two brothers had a sister, Jane, who married John Moore, a brother of the English poet Thomas Moore. It is regrettable that so many blanks appear in the genealogical data of the CARRICO family here presented." From Filson Club Quarterly, Vol. 25 Pg. 218. Grantor _____1707 Charles Co., MD. From Robert W. Barnes, "Maryland Genealogy Society Bulletin, Charles County Depositions: From Charles County Land Records," serial unknown, Vol. 33-34, Vol 33 fall 1992 #4p 699. Carricoe, James age 70, 28 Sep 1763, stated his father was Peter Carricoe (Charles County Land Records p#3,59:614). James, Peter, and Abel are listed in the 1733 Charles County Tax list with James living in the Benedict Leonard District and Peter and Able living in the Newport West Side Upper District. Tradition also says that there was a serious rift between the brothers Peter & Abel due to religion. They were originally a Catholic family and Peter & most of his descendents at least for the first few generations remained Catholic. Abel married Elizabeth Sims, a Huguenot, and moved with them to Fairfax County, Virginia, where his family was raised Protestant.

Carrico origins

vicsgma — 2012-01-01 05:12:43Z

Has anyone heard the story of three brothers coming to the U.S., two returned home to get their families, but the ship they were on sank and Peter, who remained here, was the only one of the three to survive? Years ago someone posted on here the story and lineage. My grandfather had told me this story as a child and I've been looking for it.

Re: Carrico geneology

dandevaney4999 — 2011-08-03 01:00:43Z

Would this be your family?

Name: James Buchanan "Buck" CARRICO159,399,398,392, 12130
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Birth: 19 Oct 1859 Graves Co., Kentucky159,399,398,392
Death: 23 Jul 1946159
Burial: St. Jerome Cath. Cem., Fancy Farm, Graves Co., Kentucky159
Occupation: 1880-farm labor392
Father: James Robert CARRICO, 12128 (<1832-1921)
Mother: Mary Ann CURTSINGER, 12129 (1837-1921)
Marriage: 3 Oct 1882 St. Jerome Church, Fancy Farm, Graves Co., Kentucky159
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Spouse: Mary Eugenia WILLETT159, 12131
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Birth: 20 Apr 1863 Graves Co., Kentucky159
Death: 3 Aug 1930159
Burial: St. Jerome Cath. Cem., Fancy Farm, Graves Co., Kentucky159
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Children
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1 F: Eva Lois CARRICO159, 12132
Spouse: William Lyndall WILLETT, 12133
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2 F: Sister Mary Augusta CARRICO159, 12134
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3 F: Anna Olga CARRICO159, 12135
Birth: 2 Dec 1883159
Spouse: William Alexander CASH, 38745
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4 F: Mary Ilenna CARRICO159, 12136
Birth: 3 Aug 1886159
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5 M: James Elder or Elmer CARRICO159,386,385, 12137
Birth: 19 Aug 1887 Graves Co., Kentucky159,386,385
Spouse: Lillian Agnes “Lillie” SPALDING, 12138
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6 M: Thomas Aubrey CARRICO159, 12140
Birth: 20 Oct 1890159
Spouse: Mary Edna “Mae” CARRICO, 12141
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7 F: Minnie Eilene CARRICO159, 12144
Birth: 26 Jan 1895 Graves Co., Kentucky159
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8 F: Mary Nola CARRICO159, 12145
Birth: 21 Feb 1899159

Carrico geneology

tbdamp1 — 2011-08-02 23:57:47Z

My Great Grandmother was Anna Olga Carrico. She married a man with the last name of Cash.(not sure of his first name). They had 7 children, one of which was my grandmother (Zelma Mary. She married Lawrence Hamilton and moved to Akron Ohio to work in the rubber factories. My Great Uncle(Clifton Cash)married Mary Spaulding and also lived in Akron.I have visited Mayfield Ky. and Fancy Farm Ky. and have many fine memories of both.

Re: Joanna Carrico

itsme61701 — 2011-06-14 16:36:17Z

Hi,
I have the info you need. But most of it has been answered for you already. Joanna was not a Carrico but Kerrick and misspelled in the register as Carrique. I remember speaking with Richard Mudd on the phone years ago on Mudd in the Kerrick lines, he was very helpful. Here is what I have so far. Note: That Joanna Kerrick Mudd listed Benjamin Harrison Kerrick as her brother on her marriage register. Later James Kerrick son of Benjamin H.Kerrick and Mary Carrico was posted in a newspaper that he was leaving Ky to move out to Calif. and stopping in Illinois to visit cousins their. I feel he was referring to Joanna Kerrick Mudds children or one of them? Also, early before that, Brenda Kerrick Morrison of Ky found where 3 of Benjamin Harrisons sons were born in southern Illinois around early 1800's. I suspect it was same county the Joanna Kerrick Mudd and family had already moved to in Randolph County IL, which happens to be the
first County formed in Illinois I am to understand. Please feel free to contact me and anyone else doing research at
itsme61701@yahoo.com Take care. Mark
JOANNA KERRICK was born Abt. 1765 in CHARLES COUNTY, MARYLAND. She married THOMAS MUDD Bet. 1781 to 1783 in Poss. CHARLES CO. MARYLAND. He was born in CHARLES COUNTY, MARYLAND.

Notes for JOANNA KERRICK:
Thomas and Joanna Kerrick Mudd
Thomas Mudd was born in MD. His ancestors were of the Lord Baltimore Party. Some of them took part in the Revolutionary war. He married Joanna Carrick in MD. Her ancestors were also participants in the war for independence. A short time after his marriage to Joanna, Thomas Mudd move to Ky from Md and located in Spencer CO, [see note at bottom], were he was a pioneer and settle down to farm life. He and Joanna had nine children, seven sons and two daughters, James, Edward, Francis, Joseph, Felix, John, and Thomas H. Teresa and Lucreta. James, the oldest one of the sons came from Ky to Randolph, IL one year before his father. He was married to Amelia O'Hara in KY. They had six sons, William, Henry, Felix, Charles, Leo, and Pius. And three daughters, Margeret A, Harriet, Eliza. They all stayed in Randolph CO, IL except for Felix who moved to TX. James and Amelia Mudd as stated above, moved to Randolph CO, IL in 1818. His father Thomas moved here in 1819. William Mudd the son of James Mudd was born in 1816 the only child to James Mudd to be born outside of IL. In 1857 he was chosen as a candidate for the office of Circut Judge for IL. After serving four years as Judge he was reelected and served another term.
Information taken from the book; History of Randoph County, IL.
Notes:
Thomas and Joanna lived in the same County as Benjamin H. Kerrick and Robert and Ann "Carrick" Hevrin. Other family members from Maryland followed later. Thomas Mudd was the Gaurdian of Ann Kerrick - Joanna Mudd's sister.
Notes for THOMAS MUDD:
More About THOMAS MUDD and JOANNA KERRICK:
Marriage: Bet. 1781 to 1783, Poss. CHARLES CO. MARYLAND
Children of JOANNA KERRICK and THOMAS MUDD are:
1. JAMES MUDD.
2. EDWARD MUDD.
3. FRANCIS MUDD.
4. JOSEPH MUDD.
5. FELIX MUDD.
6. JOHN MUDD.
7 THOMAS H. MUDD.
8. TERESA MUDD.
9. LUCRETA MUDD.

Ann Kerrick Hevrin moved from MD to Washington CO. KY before 1797 possibly with Thomas
Mudd and Joanna Kerrick {Carrick}. She married Robert Hevrin in Washington CO. KY at St. Rose
Catholic Church and declared Benjamin Harrison Kerrick as her Brother and next of kin on her marriage Certificate, and Thomas Mudd as her Guardian.
Information donated by Dr. Richard Mudd
Mark itsme61701@yahoo.com

Re: George G Carrico m. Elizabeth Cissell, Maryland to KY

MarilynGappa — 2011-05-29 21:09:20Z

Correction: Elizabeth (CISSELL) and George G CARRICO were my gr gr gr grandparents
Thank you
Marilyn (Sause) Gappa

George G Carrico m. Elizabeth Cissell, Maryland to KY

MarilynGappa — 2011-05-29 16:14:27Z

My gr gr grandparents Elizabeth (CISSELL) married George G. CARRICO 1817 in Washington Co, KY. Elizabeth may have been born in KY, George was born in Maryland, and was a part of the MD to KY migration.

Did William CISSELL married Sarah (ADAMS) circa 1784 at St. Andrew's in St. Mary's Co, MD? Were they the parents of my Elizabeth? Who were siblings of Elizabeth?

Was the father of William, John Baptist CISSELL?
Who was his wife, parents, and all of John Baptist CISSELL children?
Thank you,
Marilyn (Sause) Gappa
MD to KY ancestors CARRICO, CISSELL, SUMMERS, TEWELL, O'BRIEN, RINEY, RANEY

Re: Alfred Carrico 1846-1918

jocelynrenae2 — 2011-04-27 03:39:51Z

Amandah's birthname is Hines. She is the daughter of Jackson Hines. Somehow she went with the Richardson name. I believe she took the name from the farm owners, and used it to pass as a white woman. Jackson Hines was the son of the farm owner who was Ireland. Caroline Atwell was her mother, who was giving the name Atwell after being found at the well. She was left there by her white mother, who could not keep her, because she was pregnant by a man from the islands. I have all of that information. I'm just stuck trying to find how she had Sarah, and her marriage to Alfred.

Re: Alfred Carrico 1846-1918

Diana_Gale_Matthiesen — 2011-04-26 13:53:39Z

Yes, Alfred lived with his married daughter, Bertha (CARRICO) JACKSON, in the 1900 census, but in 1870, Bertha wasn't even born, yet.

I dug through the census pretty thoroughly, and I'm convinced the Alfred CARRICO living with the KENDALLs and Benedict CARRICO in 1870 is the one listed next door to Benedict CARRICO in 1880. I believe Benedict's father, James Hiram CARRICO, was Alfred's owner, if not Alfred's father, and the KENDALLs are Benedict's in-laws. Note that James's middle name was Hiram, and Alfred & Amanda named a son, Hiram. It's not exactly a common given name.

As I mentioned, it's not unusual for ages to be "off" from census to census. I do believe they're wrong for Alfred and Amanda in 1880, and I note that on their page:

http://dgmweb.net/FGS/Car/CarricoAlfred-Amanda_.html

Re: Alfred Carrico 1846-1918

Diana_Gale_Matthiesen — 2011-04-26 09:33:40Z

The 1916 death record was for Hiram CARRICO, born 5 May 1878, in Meade Co., KY, who died 7 Jul 1916 in Louisville, Jefferson Co., KY (see Kentucky Death Records online at Ancestry.com).

Re: Alfred Carrico 1846-1918

Diana_Gale_Matthiesen — 2011-04-26 09:14:30Z

I agree with you that the ages in the census, particularly of Alfred, appear incorrect. Having ages be "off" from census to census, sometimes widely, is not unusual. Keep in mind that we don't know who was the informant here. It might have been one of the children or even a neighbor. It is really worth reading up about the problems with census records. While they're probably a genealogists single best tool, they are without their problems.

I agree that Amanda's maiden name was not RICHARDSON. According to a Public Member Tree at Ancestry.com, her maiden name was HINES. I am in the process of adding that information to their page, right now. Because if the uncertainty of Amanda's birthname, I've changed the URL to:

http://dgmweb.net/FGS/Car/CarricoAlfred-Amanda_.html

Amanda did marry Alfred as Amanda RICHARDSON, which would suggest she possibly married a Mr. RICHARDSON before she married Alfred. A prior marriage would explain the children born before she and Alfred married -- at least, it would explain Frank and Nora, though not Sarah. Amanda HINES shows up unmarried and living with her parents in the 1870 census, and Sarah was born ca. 1868.

I don't have any final answers for you, I'm just gathering what data I can find.

Re: Alfred Carrico 1846-1918

jocelynrenae2 — 2011-04-26 06:40:47Z

Hey, i sent you an email as well. So many things i am noticing. One being Amandah gave birth to Sarah at the age of 13. Amandah and Alfred were born around 10 years apart, yet they were both 25 in the census for i believe 1870. I don't get it. Someone was telling lies or either someone wrote the wrong information.

I do know Amandah is not a Richardson. I believe that was the name she used to pass as white. Her mother was the daughter of the slave owner's daughter. So she was mixed, but I'm guessing only wanted to be white. I took that assumption by her changing her name; using the estate owners name. I have contacted a few people on her side of the family to see if I could get any information about the Carrico kids. It is Sarah, Frank, Bertha (who i have a picture), nora, hiram, and robert.

Re: Alfred Carrico 1846-1918

Diana_Gale_Matthiesen — 2011-04-26 06:17:06Z

I can't tell if we're related until a patrilineal descendant of Alfred has been Y-DNA tested. If his Y-DNA is a match for the CARRICOs, then yes, we'd be cousins. If Alfred simply adopted the CARRICO name and his patrilineal ancestry is African-American, then no, we wouldn't be related.

Re: Alfred Carrico 1846-1918

jocelynrenae2 — 2011-04-26 05:25:41Z

Also, are you sure the Alfred with the Kendall's are the same as the others with the kids? I believe I did look at that before and saw something was not right with it. The alfred i have in my line lived with Bertha Jackson and her kids. the other alfred lived with the kendalls. also, i'm not sure but i believe the ages were different. I'm going to look again now to check.

Thanks so much for the replies!

Re: Alfred Carrico 1846-1918

jocelynrenae2 — 2011-04-26 05:24:04Z

Hello are either of you related to alfred? Thanks so much for the information you have posted. I am not sorting through it to understand it.

Re: Alfred Carrico 1846-1918

Diana_Gale_Matthiesen — 2011-04-24 17:12:58Z

Thank you for the birth records of the post-1880 children. I didn't have those.

I'm of the belief that "Benjamin J. CARRICO" is actually Benedict Joseph CARRICO because he started out with that name. In the 1850 census with his parents, he is "Benedict," and in his marriage record, he is "Benedich." Yes, he's "Benj." in 1870 census and "Benjamin" in the 1900 census, but I'm inclined to think those are enumerator errors. The enumerator was told "Ben," then assumed it was Benjamin and wrote that down. He did go mostly by "Ben." Also, his grandfather was Benedict, so it makes more sense he was Benedict, not Benjamin.
http://dgmweb.net/FGS/Car/CarricoBenedictJoseph-MaryAnnKenda...

Valentine Thomas KENDALL & Margaret SHACKLETT are the parents of Ben's wife, Mary Ann KENDALL:
http://dgmweb.net/FGS/K/KendallValentineThompson-MargaretSha...

Alfred CARRICO was almost certainly a slave owned by Benedict's father, James Hiram CARRICO
http://dgmweb.net/FGS/Car/CarricoJamesHiram-HelenBurtle.html
as a slave of that age and gender appears in the 1850 and 1860 censuses in his household. James and Benedict were the only CARRICO households in the county through that period, and Benedict's only slave in 1860 was an 8-year-old girl.

Three of the four children in household with Alfred & Amanda in the 1880 census were born before they married:
http://dgmweb.net/FGS/Car/CarricoAlfred-AmandaRichardson.htm...
so, even though they are enumerated as "son" and "daughter," I don't know if we can be certain the three are the biological children of both of them.

If Alfred has any living male patrilineal descendants, it would certainly be possible to determine whether or not he was a biological CARRICO by Y-DNA testing. The CARRICO haplotype is highly distinctive.

Re: Alfred Carrico 1846-1918

dmjohnsond — 2011-04-24 12:40:00Z

Here's some information that you may or may not have. Note that in the 1870 Census, Alfred is living in the family of Thomas Kendall, and his son-in-law, Benjamin Carrico. Alfred is listed as Mulatto. He was probably a former slave of the Carrico family, and possibly also a child of one of the Carrico adults and a slave. Benjamin J. Carrico is the son of James Hiram Carrico and Helen Burtle, grandson of Benedict Carrico and Sarah Mattingly.

Kentucky Marriages, 1785-1979
Groom's Name: Alfred Carrico
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Amanda Richardson
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 05 Dec 1877
Marriage Place: Brandenburg, Meade, Kentucky
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I05197-0
System Origin: Kentucky-EASy
Source Film Number: 2116584
Reference Number: item 1

United States Census, 1870
Residence: District 4, Meade County, Kentucky
Post Office: Garnett, Kentucky
Thompson Kendall, 62, m, w, farmer, 6000, 1000, b Ky
Margaret Kendall, 60, f, w, keeping house, b Ky
Horace T Kendall M21y
Benj I Carrico, 32, m, w, farmer, 0, 1000, b Ky
Mary A Carrico, 30, f, w, at home, b Ky
James J Carrico, 10, m, w, at home, b Ky
Benjn J Carrico, 8, m, w, at home, b Ky
Maggie H Carrico, 6, f, w, at home, b Ky
Maria Carrop, 15, f, b, domestic servant, b Ky
Alfred Carrico, 22, mu, m, farm hand, b Ky

United States Census, 1880
Residence: Court House, Meade, Kentucky
NARA Film Number: T9-0433
Page: 556
Page Character: D
Entry Number: 1967
Film number: 1254433
Alfred Carrico, self, b, m, 25, married, farm labor, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky
Amanda Carrico, wife, b, f, 25, married, keeping house, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky
Sarah Carrico, daughter, b, f, 12, single, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky
Frank Carrico, son, b, m, 7, single, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky
Nora Carrico, daughter, b, f, 5, single, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky
Hyram Carrico, son, b, m, 2, single, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky

United States Census, 1900
Residence: Louisville city, Jefferson, Kentucky
1528 Kentucky Street
Enumeration District: 0105
Sheet Number and Letter: 4B
Household ID: 86
Reference Number: 97
GSU Film Number: 1240532
Image Number: 00093
Alfred Carrico, head, b, m, Apr 1846, 54, married 23 yrs, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky, Hosler
Amanda Carrico, wife, b, f, May 1853, 47, 8 children, 5 living, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky
Bertha Carrico, daughter, b, f, Feb 1889, 11, single, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky
Robert Carrico, son, b, m, Oct 1890, 9, single, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky
John Valentine, son-in-law, b, m, Apr 1864, 36, widow, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky, Day Laborer
Kirby Valentine, grandson, b, m, Jul 1887, 12, single, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky
Nellie Valentine, granddaughter, b, f, Jun 1890, 9, single, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky
Nina Valentine, granddaughter, b, f, Feb 1895, 5, single, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky
Nora Garrison, daughter, b, f, Oct 1877, widow, 0 children, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky

Indiana, Marriages, 1811-1959
Groom: Raymond Jackson
Groom's Race: Colored
Groom's Date of Birth: 24 Jul 1885
Groom's Place of Birth: Louisville, , Kentucky
Groom's Residence: Louisville, , Kentucky
Groom's Number of Marriage: 1
Groom's Father: Oliver Jackson
Groom's Mother: Mary Spencer
Bride: Bertha Carrico
Bride's Race: Colored
Bride's Date of Birth: 03 Feb 1888
Bride's Place of Birth: , Mead, Kentucky
Bride's Residence: Louisville, , Kentucky
Bride's Number of Marriage: 1
Bride's Father: Alfred Carrico
Bride's Mother: Amanda Richardson
Informant Name:
Date of License: 06 Sep 1908
County of License: Clark
Date of Marriage: 06 Sep 1908
Place of Marriage: , Clark, Indiana
Official:
Record Number:
Film Number: 1415877
Digital Folder Number: 4476599
Image Number: 00118
Number of Images: 1

Ohio, County Marriages, 1790-1950
Name: Robert Harrison Carrico
Titles & Terms:
Event: Marriage
Event Date: 09 Nov 1912
Event Place: Hamilton County, Ohio
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: 1885
Marriage Date Note:
Marriage Place Note:
Father: Alfred Carrico
Father's Titles & Terms:
Mother: Amanda Richardson
Mother's Titles & Terms:
Spouse: Nellie Goude
Spouse's Titles & Terms:
Spouse's Age: 24
Spouse's Estimated Birth Year: 1888
Spouse's Father: William Goude
Spouse's Father's Titles & Terms:
Spouse's Mother: Ella Valentine
Spouse's Mother's Titles & Terms:
Reference Number: 365
Film Number: 365190
Digital Folder Number: 4016503
Image Number: 525

Kentucky, Death Records, 1911-1955
Name: Hinie Carrico
Titles & Terms:
Event:Death
Event Date: 1916
Event Place: Louisville, Jefferson, Kentucky
Residence:
Street Address:
Gender:Male
Age:
Marital Status:
Race:
Occupation:
Estimated Birth Year:
Burial Date:
Burial Place:
Cemetery:
Father: Alford Carrico
Father's Titles & Terms:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother: Amanda Richardson
Mother's Titles & Terms:
Mother's Birthplace:
Additional Relatives:
Spouse:
Spouse's Titles & Terms:
Volume/Page/Certificate Number: 18131
Film Number: 1942745

Cheers, Michael
Kent Island, Maryland

Alfred Carrico 1846-1918

jocelynrenae2 — 2011-04-13 18:48:31Z

Hello, I'm searching for the family of Alfred Carrico. I'm at a dead end with him. I have everyone under him but nothing above him. I can't get much information on him or any siblings. Some of his kids are...

Sarah Carrico (my 3xGreatGrandmother)(later Sarah Valentine)

Frank Carrico

Nora Carrico (later became Nora Garrison)

Hiram Carrico

Bertha Carrico (later Jackson)

Robert Carrico

Most where born in Kentucky, but from what i am finding they moved all over from Detroit, ohio, indiana, and more places. I have no idea of what information is accurate. I now have one picture of Bertha Carrico, and that is all i have.

If anyone could please email me or reply. i greatly appreciate it!

Jocelyn

Re: carrico's from oregon

BLundelle — 2011-04-09 19:49:08Z

Hello Tami
I don't know if this is still your e-mail or not but will answer anyway. Hope you have found a connection to the Oregon Carrico line. On our line my Dad was the only one who had any children and I am the oldest born in 1933. I checked on the line who settled in Spokane Wa. Dennis H. Carrico who came West with his brother James, my GGGrandfather.
Wish I could help. If I run across his name anywhere I will contact you.
Berny

Re: Children of Joseph J. Carrico

mastercrafted — 2011-02-25 17:54:18Z

Hello Sandy,

Wow that was a fast followup response, since your post was from 2007. I thought maybe I was too late or your email may have expired or something.

I have a hard time hearing so it would be tough for me to talk on the phone, I'm sure he still sounds like the same Joe, just 37 yrs older and maybe a little more cranky in his old age:)

I got hammered from behind by a truck on the hwy 20 yrs. ago and lost most of my hearing:( but if he can email me it's mastercrafted@gmail.com

Take care, Dave

Re: Children of Joseph J. Carrico

dandevaney4999 — 2011-02-23 00:54:51Z

Hello Dave,

Joe is trying to reach you and I somehow got in the middle of it. I've asked him if it was OK to post his email address on the message board and then you could contact him direct or if you want to give me your email address I can pass it on. I tried to reach you on ancestry.com but got lost.

Aloha,

Dan in Hawaii

Re: Children of Joseph J. Carrico

genealogy4999 — 2011-02-21 22:20:04Z

Morning,

If he wants to be in direct contact he can send to genealogy4999@gmail.com

Dan

Re: Children of Joseph J. Carrico

SandyKC — 2011-02-21 06:29:03Z

Yep, that's us. Joe will be so excited to talk to you.

Re: Children of Joseph J. Carrico

dandevaney4999 — 2011-02-20 23:57:21Z

Hi Dave,

Would you just happen to remeber any of the sister's names, or maybe his mother's name? Did he have any brothers?

We have twelve Boyd Carricos, some with a second name. Some of the dates are possible. Is Orofino, Clearwater Co. Idaho anywhere near your home town?

Aloha,

Marilyn and Dan Devaney in Hawaii

Re: Children of Joseph J. Carrico

dandevaney4999 — 2011-02-20 23:57:21Z

Re: Children of Joseph J. Carrico

mastercrafted — 2011-02-20 19:43:07Z

Hello, Joseph A. Carrico (Joe) was my best friend in mountain home Idaho. I'm 52 knew he had 4 sisters, however he lived with his father Boyd near mountain home high school, his father boyd died of liver disease. I was born 1958, most memorable event was I stayed over one night his father Boyd came home late and I woke up with him beating on me then threatened to shoot me as I ran out the door in my underwear and socks! Very vivid, I'll let Joe feel in any details about our friendship. He was a joker and we wreaked terror in Mt. Home:)

Our other friends were Wade Ray, Ray Turner, Rick Turner, can't remember them all. He joined the Navy, after wards worked an oil rig and lived in Indianapolis and married to possibly Sandy or Sandra Carrico. Joe, Wade and me met once for a beer that was the last I heard. Tell him I said hello!!!

Take care, Dave

Re: from Portugal

TimothyCarricoWeaver — 2011-02-13 21:52:23Z

Nuno:

I have not been on the message board for sometime, but I do have a request. We are looking for Portuguese males surnamed Carrico to join the Carrico DNA project. Our goal is to connect the Carricos of America who nearly all descend from one person, Peter Carrico of eastern Maryland. He arrived in 1674. We have a fairly complete DNA profile proving connections to the current generation of Carricos back to Peter. Next, we want to show, or not show, whether this Carrico came from related Carricos in Portugal. Could you help? Let me know. Thanks. Muito gracias!

Re: Passing along Carrico information

BLundelle — 2011-02-03 16:09:22Z

Hello
Yes my GG Grandfather was James Carrico who came west with his brother Dennis. James settled in Oregon and Dennis in Spokane Wn. are you related to Peggy Cunningham? I corresponded with her for years and bought the book she wrote. would love to hear back from you .
Berny Lundell

Re: Passing along Carrico information

DottiePorterHimes — 2011-01-11 14:30:25Z

I am interested in your Carrico family.
You can reply directly to djhimes9824@att.net
I noticed on your outline James Carrico and Elizabeth Clements. I would like to know more about them. My grandmother was Matilda Jane Clements dau of Philip Clements and Ann Yates. Matilda Jane Clements married James Henry Porter.(my grandfather) they lived in KY

I am also trying to find info on Catherine Carrico who married General John Gunn Porter. son of Philip Porter and Nancy Ann Brent

Descendants of John Gunn Porter, Gen. 10-4-6 see notes
1 John Gunn PORTER, Gen. 10-4-6 see notes b: 1804 VA, Pughtown, Frederick Co., d: 17 Jul 1876 KY, Spencer Co., Camp Branch Pct., Smileytown Burial: KY, Beaver Dam, OH Co. Goshen Cem.
..+Catherine T. "Kitty" CARRICO, *b: 16 Jun 1808 KY, Nelson Co. m: 14 Jul 1829 KY, Spencer Co, Bondsman Butler Carrico d: 19 Nov 1863 KY, Spencer Co, St. Benedict Cem Burial: Nov 1863 St. Benedicts Cem Spencer Co. KY Father: Joseph Carrico Mother: Amelia Butler
2 [1] William "Butler" PORTER, 10-4-6-1, 1H b: Apr 1830 KY, Spencer Co. KY
d: Aft. 1900 KY, Taylorsville
... +Louisa Raisor RAZOR, 1W b: 19 Apr 1836 KY, Henry Co Gratz Comm. Fam Farm m: 10 May 1860 KY, Henry Co. d: 12 Oct 1863 KY, Spencer Co. Burial: 1863 KY, Henry Co . Father: Frederick Raisor Razor Mother: Elizabeth Reasor, 2W
*2nd Wife of [1] William "Butler" PORTER, 10-4-6-1, 1H:
... +Lucretia Lula Atkinson (Woldridge) WOOLRIDGE b: 1843 KY m: 11 Oct 1869 KY, New Castle, Spencer Co. d: Bef. 1900 Father: Edmond P. (Woldridge) Woolridge Mother: Catherine Ann Louisa Atchison
2 Philip PORTER, 10-4-6-2 b: 1831 KY, Spencer Co. d: Aft. 1870 KY, Spencer Co,
... +UNKNOWN m: Aft. 1850
2 Charles H. PORTER, 10-4-6-3 b: 1835 KY, Spencer Co.
... +UNKNOWN m: Aft. 1850
2 James K. PORTER, Dr. 10-4-6-4 b: 09 Apr 1837 KY, Spencer Co. d: 09 Mar 1902 KY, Taylorsville, Spencer Co, Rt 44 Valley Cem Burial: Mar 1902 Valley Cem, Hwy 44, Spencer Co., Taylorsville, KY
... +Mary L. LNU b: 15 Dec 1854 m: Aft. 1850 d: 07 Jul 1921 KY, Taylorsville, Valley Cem. Spencer Co. Burial: Jul 1921 Valley Cem, Hwy 44, Spencer Co., Taylorsville, KY
2 Benjamin "Ben" Mason PORTER, 10-4-6-5 b: 1846 KY, Spencer Co.
... +UNKNOWN m: Abt. 1866
2 [2] Mariah Josephine PORTER, 10-4-6-6 b: Aug 1849 KY, Fairfield, Nelson Co. d: 04 Feb 1888 KY, Fairfield, Nelson Co. Burial: Feb 1888 St. Michael FairfieldKy
... +Mahlon D. HILL, #1H b: 1845 m: Abt. 1868 d: 17 Jan 1925 VA, Fishersville, Tyler Cemetery Father: John Hill Mother: Sarah Shields
*2nd Husband of [2] Mariah Josephine PORTER, 10-4-6-6:
... +John W. REID, #2H b: Abt. 1849 m: 15 Jan 1888 KY, Spencer Co, Plum Creek Church

All help will be appreciated. Dottie Porter Himes