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Charles Samuel Chamberlain St Mary Whitechapel, Stepney, London, England

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Re: Charles Samuel Chamberlain St Mary Whitechapel, Stepney, London, England

James Baldwin Parker (View posts)
Posted: 24 Jan 2004 8:31AM GMT
Classification: Query
Mostly for the benefit of other researchers, so they don't waste their time looking for detailed information about this family that is already available, here is the long answer, that I posted in GenForum, 18 Aug 2003, in reply to your initial 29 Jul 2003, GenForum Chamberlain posting. I haven't repeated this earlier posting of yours here, but it contained a much more detailed account of this family, including the names of 6 children, and, importantly, the fact that the family came to NY, on 4 Jul 1836, and later settled in NJ, contrary to what you just stated in your message here - that they came to the U. S. in the 1850s. I see that your 29 Jul 2003 follow-up GenForum posting also provided additional details.
I've added some new data for the 1870 & 1880 census for son Charles and his family, but otherwise my response is the same:
LDS/Mormon IGI Records (from the Family Search Internet site) list Charles Samuel Chamberlain, christened 5 Mar 1797, St. Mary Whitechapel, Stepney, London, England, son of William & Sarah Chamberlain. You said Charles and his wife Ann F. came to New York in 1836, settling in Hoboken, NJ. The following census data evidently pertain to this family:
- 1840 Census, Bergen Twp., Hudson Co., NJ, p. 203, Charles S. Chamberlan: 1210001-120301, 1 person employed in Navigation of Canals, Lakes and Rivers. In this record the eldest male is 40-50 years of age.
- 1850 Census, Hoboken Twp., Hudson Co., NJ, p. 287, #178/241, Ann Chamberlain, age 53, $6000, b. England; Ann L. Chamberlain, age 30, b. England; Sophia Chamberlain, age 28, b. England; Charles Chamberlain, age 23, butcher, b. England; Frederic Chamberlain, age 20, butcher, b. England; John Chamberlain, age 17, seaman, b. England, attends school; Emma Chamberlain, age 15, b. England, attends school; James H. Chamberlain, age 13, b. NY, attends school; Lydia Chamberlain, age 11, b. NY, attends school; also Sarah Ketterer, age 17, b. Germany; John Lambert, age 24, butcher, b. Germany. In this record, the father, Charles is absent, perhaps deceased, and the list of children is somewhat different than what you have listed.
Census records for sons Charles (living with some of his siblings) & probably John, are listed as follows:
- 1860 Census, Hoboken Ward 2, Hudson Co., NJ, Charles Chamberlain, p. 700, age 32, butcher, $6000/$400, married, b. England; Ann S. Chamberlain, age 40, b. England; Emma Chamberlain, age 25, b. England; Mary Chamberlain, age 20, b. NJ, married; also Flonora Riley, age 22, servant, b. IR; Antrey Morint, age 30, clerk, b. NJ
- 1870 Census, Hoboken, Ist Ward, Hoboken P. O., Hudson Co., NJ, p. 42, #297/694, 18 Aug 1870, Chas. Chamberlin, age 43, oil inspector, $3000/$1000, b. England, parents of foreign birth, U. S. Citizen; Mary, age 30, keeping house, b. NY; Alice, age 8, att. school, b. NJ; Haltz? [could be Harriet], female, age 7, att. school, b. NJ; Mary, age 6, b. NJ; Charles, age 4, b. NJ; Maud, age 1, b. NJ
- 1880 Census, Hoboken, Ist Ward, Hudson Co., NJ, p. 103D, Charles Chamberlain, age 52, head, butcher, ENG/ENG/ENG; Mary, wife, age 40, house keeper, NY/SCOT/SCOT; Alice, dau., age 18, at home; Hattie, dau., age 17, at school; Minnie, dau., age 16, at school; Charles, son, age 14, at school; Maud, dau., age 12, at school; Margaret, dau., age 8; Grace, dau., age 5; Helen, dau., age 3 (all children b. NJ with father b. ENG; mother b. NY)
I also see, as you observed, that Charles' and Ann's daughter Ann Sarah, was baptized 30 Jan 1820, at St. Mary, Rotherhithe, London, and their daughter Mary Ann, was baptized at St. Leonards, Shoreditch, 3 Apr 1825; I did not locate similar records for the rest of the children who were born in England. Charles' father was perhaps William Chamberlain, b. 14 Jul 1771, chr. 5 Aug 1771, Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London, son of William & Sarah Chamberlain. That is about all that I was able to find for this family with a relatively brief search, and hope that the information is helpful. More can perhaps be determined with a more thorough search of IGI Parish records in England, and with a careful search of 1880-1930 census records in NJ and elsewhere.
This is the end of my earlier GenForum response. I also spotted an interesting 1880 census record for a John Chamberlain, b. c1833 England, of Jersey City, NJ, who might be the same person as the John listed in this family. If so, he must have returned to England, married there, and then returned to the U. S. with his wife and four children before 1873. If you have already traced son John in the 1860, 1870 Census, etc., perhaps you tell me what became of him.
Please contact me via Email if you wish to discuss this information in greater detail.
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