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Re: Col. Isham Chisum's Wall of Honor

artisth2 — 2012-03-18 02:25:01Z

I have John and Margaret Cook Chisam, Isham Russell and Permedia Roberts Chisam (died in Nacogdoches, TX, which is in East TX where I live, here by 1835 Republic of Mexico Census, Sarah Jane Or Flora Ann (MS records has Flora Ann)married Martha Allen Rowland/Roland (don't ask me about the Martha, he was listed with that name, who is the father of my Susan Amanda Rowland/Roland and Joseph Leonard Allsbrooks, as noted on the death certificat of Joseph by my grandfather, James Bleuitt Allsbrooks.

The Roland married into the Thomas and Chisum/Chishum and seemed to have traveled west in groups. I've been told Amanda or Mandy married Lewis Alsobrooks (notice our name is spelled many ways) but I only have one census in LA with that name. They were listed as Brooks in the earlier census, Osbrooks in even earlier census (all in Calcasieu, Lake Charles, LA area and since their son married Margaret (Sarah) Josephine Glass there and all his brothers were listed I'm sure this is his family. Found him looking for my husband's line.

The Frances and Sarah Varner Glass was the father of James Wesley and Sarah Ann Chitty Glass, (Mecklenber Co NC- Coneoh Co, AL) were Jossphine's family, Josephine die in Angelina Co, TX, up the street from where I lived.

Susan Amandy was called "Mandy" and was short, dark, grandpa said she was "Deustch" (yes that's real, understand it was where 3 or 4 countries came together, Germany, Holland, France etc (my memory lapse) basically a valley and they intermarried. There was "White" (blond, blue eye, light skin) and Black (dark hair, skin, eyes) Deustch though they could be in the same family due to inherited traits. Mandy was considered Black deutsch by grandpa, though he called her a "wop". She was short, wore long dark dresses and walked with a limp from an accident in which her carriage overturned and she broke her hip.

If anyone knows anything about this family, or stories, I'd love to hear them. Grandpa Jim was my heart.

James Wesley was a doctor and 3 of his sons as well and I think he may have died in LA but his family settled in Angelina, Tyler, and Harris Co as well as Jefferson Co, TX. Some went back to LA and one is buried in Baytown, TX, one became a minister. Mom knew them and name the children and even wifes though the names are sometimes nicknames.

My grandfather's picked up a lot of medical training from them as the locales brought not only themselves but livestock to him when ill.

They left LA for TX in 1900 before or after and are listed, my ggrandfather and gggrandmother as Alsobrooks and owed delinquent 1900 taxes.

I am looking for a wedding documentation for Mandy Rowland/Rolad and would appreciate it if anyone has that and would share. I will be glad to share my data and you may contact me at ahumble@consolidated.net.

I brave the fruadal world because I want to know more about my family. They lived on the banks of a river in LA around Leesville, LA and Mansfield or Many. Please contact me
Adiene

Re: Col. Isham Chisum's Wall of Honor

figaro1st — 2012-03-04 01:01:34Z

Isham 'Russell' Chisum was a son of Elijah Chisum and Elizabeth Walling.

Re: Col. Isham Chisum's Wall of Honor

figaro1st — 2012-03-03 03:59:26Z

My understanding is that the Isham Chisum who married Charlotte Martin was the son of Isham Chisum who married Permelia Roberts.

Re: Col. Isham Chisum's Wall of Honor

artisth2 — 2012-03-03 03:44:34Z

Maybe you are talking about a different Isham Chisum. I have had info given to me about Isham Russell Chisum botn 1775 VA-1823 or 24 Covington Co, MS, son of John and Margaret Chisum, married Permedia Roberts (1780) so there are more than one Isham.

Re: LOOKING FOR HARRIET CHISUM

crc481 — 2011-12-21 14:37:08Z

Interesting comment…”blinded by the facts.” Although I would love to believe the version of the story you tell, and did for decades, unfortunately the facts do tell a different tale. Historians research the data and interpret the facts. We form our hypotheses after gathering the data, not before. Novelists are free to take liberties. The facts are as presented. Period property records and census information coupled with the Johnson will and other forensic matter led me to the conclusion I presented. If you have other data to the contrary I would love to see the documents. Meanwhile I shall have to stick to my position, however unpleasant you may find it. It would be great to have a DNA test done. There are at least two granddaughters of James Chisum, John’s brother, that are still living. I know both. Maybe someday a DNA test will be done to prove the story once and for all.

Re: LOOKING FOR HARRIET CHISUM

sunnyday9 — 2011-12-21 08:22:10Z

And you sir are blinded by the facts..Chisum most likely purchased jensie pryor to the children being born and it was later he made it legal his ownership of jensie so that no one could come back and reclaim her espicially after the children where born,over protective to make sure no one was able to take back jensie and his children..it made it binding. Iam no relation but i cant stand closed minded researchers. back then trust started with a handshake then it was later that laws came into play..this is when chisum made his ownership of jensie legal.

Lets not forget this also took place before the civil war,who knew what the outcome would be..

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Re: CHISUM Roy L 1894 1986 pvt US Army W W I

CharleneC51 — 2011-10-24 00:04:30Z

I was searching for marriage information on my Aunt, Dorthey Mae Aylor, daughter of James Oscar Aylor & Winnie Lee Smith Aylor. and I was led to your ancestry.com tree (which, of course, I could not acess) and it did not give your name? I wondered if you could please contact me? Also, I wondered if you were connected to the Chisum/Chisolm family in Hutchinson Co., TX, I have an Aunt by marriage who was a Chisolm, she was a wonderful woman.
Thanks, Charlene Sparks ccs1101@aol.com

Col. Isham Chisum's Wall of Honor

BettyBass20 — 2011-10-01 12:06:58Z

That Wall of Honor was very special, but needs a few corrections. It says that in 1869 he went to live with his son, Isham Jr, which was incorrect. Isham Chisum was listed as head of household with wife Charlotte Martin Chisum on the 1870 census for San Patricio County, Texas, and Isham Chisum and wife, Charlotte was listed on the 1880 census as living in Bandera County, and again he was head of household. He and his family did go to Mexico for sometime and due to bad health returned to Texas.

Have seen his name with "RUSSELL" as the middle name, which appears to be incorrect. With all the documents that I have in my possession there is NOT a "R OR RUSSELL" anywhere in his name. Have his obituary and it DOES NOT SHOW ANY "R OR RUSSELL" IN HIS NAME.

My family nicknames were also posted and it appears might have been repeated but they were my family's nicknames that were only used in my family. COL. ISHAM CHISUM WAS ONLY MARRIED ONE TIME.

Just wanted to make a few corrections and thanks.

Re: CHISUM David our thanks and honor to our hero who died in Vietnam - Wall section 48W

EvaLowey10 — 2011-09-04 19:06:58Z

David was my brother and I am very proud of him not only for fighting and giving his life so other could live but he was a very special brother.

Re: Chisum in East Texas-To William P.Chisum

EvaLowey10 — 2011-09-04 18:59:59Z

Hi Debra
Yes I am the same person. How are thing going for you. Have you heard how your grandmother is doing,I haven`t heard anything from Sara. Good to hear from you.
elowey@shaw.ca
evie

Re: Chisum in East Texas-To William P.Chisum

debbi_2124 — 2011-08-31 23:33:48Z

Hi, Richard L. Chisum is/was my grandfather. My mother is Mary Chisum Cardona. I believe I spoke to you once when you called our home looking for my mother. She did tell me that she had a sister in Canada, but I couldn't remember her name. If you are the same person please let me know would like to hear more.

Thank you,

Debra Cardona

Re: CHISUM David our thanks and honor to our hero who died in Vietnam - Wall section 48W

debbi_2124 — 2011-08-31 23:20:57Z

Is his mother Rafaela Ponce-Chisum?

Re: Jensie, Harriet and Almeady Chisum

lovemoore1387 — 2011-08-14 20:11:04Z

I found this website dont know if you have already seen it or not. Do you have Chisum in your family? cause my last known family member with the last name was Rita Chisum my great grandmother.
http://deestory.homestead.com/chisum.html

Roger Z. Chisum in San Angelo, TX 1942

drbrownlee — 2011-07-17 01:39:15Z

Roger is pictured in the 1942 yearbook of the San Angelo (TX) Army Air Field, Bombardier School. I'm not kin but thought his might help someone researching the family.

Re: Del Cenia? or Delcini Chisum?

aman1356 — 2011-07-10 21:20:04Z

Hi, I am the great granddaughter of Albert and Annie Chisholm and have been unable to find any information on Albert Chisholm. They lived in Mt. Savage, MD.

Re: Chisum--Arkansas--Tennessee

rpchisholm — 2011-02-20 05:15:50Z

Hi Miuke,
There are two newspaper articles held in a collection at the archives of University of Arkansas at Little Rock.

"This collection contains the newsclipping of articles by Lucy Marion Reaves Utterback that appeared in the Arkansas Gazette during the 1930s and 1940s. The newspaper column was biographical in nature and concentrated on 19th centruy pioneer families that settled in Arkansas, their origins, and contributions to the state."
The articles both concern Mrs Oscar Chisum, but they are biographical in nature, so you just never know what you might find.
Tennessee would be a good place for Oscar's birth or his fathers birth. The Chisum DNA project might also be useful in providing ancestral information.
regards
Robert Chisholm

http://ualr.edu/archives/uploads/2010/05/UALR.0167%20Glimpse...

Chisum--Arkansas--Tennessee

lfmoc — 2011-02-18 21:51:14Z

Oscar Clifton Chisum Sr. is my great grandfather. He was born in either Austin, Arkansas or Tennessee around 1860. He married Catherine (Katie) Sowell in 1892. He built the Chisum House, which is located on Cumberland Street in Little Rock. I am trying to trace back from him, and have no idea who his parents were. In the 1900 and 1910 census, he states his parents were from Tennessee. In 1920, he states they were from Arkansas. I would appreciate any information on him, or his parents. Please leave a message, or contact me at lfmoc@hotmail.com. Thanks- Mike Chisum

billie jean Chisum/ Chisholm tx.

ytborn — 2010-12-05 15:04:12Z

I am looking for billie jean Chisum/ Chisholm born 1920 Orange Tx. who married Marvin virigl Myers

Re: Chisum in East Texas-To William P.Chisum

EvaLowey10 — 2010-10-22 16:38:35Z

I am not sure if it is the same one .most of dad family seem to come from either south ameria or Mexico.
I know of two sister one in Dallas and one in Arizona other then that I am not sure as to William P
Eva

Re: ne texas chisum

EvaLowey10 — 2010-10-22 16:35:21Z

OR Mae lived somewhere in Dallas and Margarite lived in Arizona sorry for the mistake .
Dad`s brothers were William, Milton,Richard and dad`s twin Russel
If you want to know more my email is
elowey@shaw.ca
EVA

Re: R.L. CHISUM {LURE}

EvaLowey10 — 2010-10-22 16:32:04Z

Hi Nelly I am not sure if I wrote to you or not,
YES we are related. and I have the family tree in Ancesty.com
if you want to see it or better still you can write to me.
elowey@shaw.ca
I might not get back to you right away but I promise to write ok.
Evie

Re: W(alter) A Chisum of Texas

chisumkeelen — 2010-10-22 13:09:29Z

hello my name is is Bobby Chisum great grand son of Walter Chisum does any one know who his dad was or if he had brothers or sisters? my email is chisumkeelen@yahoo.com

Re: R.L. CHISUM {LURE}

EvaLowey10 — 2010-10-19 15:36:38Z

Hi I don`t remmember if I wrote to you or not,anyway yes we are related.Milton was my dads brother as were William,Russell was my dads twin and two sisters that I know of Mae and Margarite. There could have been another brother,but as my dad never talked about his family, I don`t know any of them at all.
My brothers were Richard, Luis, William, Milton, Jessie, Betty, Eva,and Frank. Half brothers were David, JR, and Mary. the only ones left in the family are William, Betty, and me Eva.
It is a very big family and scattered through out the USA and me in Canada.
write when you have time.
elowey@shaw.ca
eva

Re: chisum family name

figaro1st — 2010-10-04 02:12:38Z

Are you Brett Lee Chisum, son of Doyle Wayne Chisum and Patricia Gwen Stone? If so, we are 4th cousins, and I have your Chisum information several generations back. Would love to catch up!
Valita

Re: R.L. CHISUM {LURE}

nelch — 2010-10-04 01:16:21Z

Hi Eva:

I'm sending this information that helped me to find out about Milton my grandfather:

"I am trying to find any living relatives. My grandfather was Milton Chisum, his parents were William Chisum and Mary Bass.
My grandmother usLd to talk about my grand fathers brothers and sisters, and I met Lure (hispanizised version of L.R.)Chisum. two sisters Meg, and Mary, another brother William. William and Mary Chisum migrated to Piedras Negras Coahuila, Mexico in the late 1880s or early 1890s, so far as I know with a brother of Mary Bass, and his family. My ggrand parents died in Piedras Negras. All my great uncles and aunts returned to the US. My greatuncle L.R. Chisum remained in Eagle Pass, Texas. I dont know more about their history.
Milton Chisum married Maria Orives and had two daughters, Alicia and Maria Esperanza. Alicia was my mother."

Eva, as you can see their is mentioned Lure is this your father???

Regards,

N.CH.

Re: R.L. CHISUM {LURE}

EvaLowey10 — 2010-10-03 23:40:35Z

thank you for replying so quick. Tell your brother that, there is another Chisum in somthing Springs in Colorado. He is the grandson of Milton my brother.
It is nice to know afew of dad`s family. I really would like to know whatever happened to Russel ,dads twin
I lost him somewhere in Dallas.Don`t know if he ever married . it would be nice of you to send me whatever you can about your side of the family.
EVA

Re: Chisum in East Texas-To William P.Chisum

nelch — 2010-10-03 18:37:11Z

Hi Michelle:
I'm looking for the family lineage. I already got some information but I would like to hear from you.
My grandfather Milton Chisum (his parents WIlliaman Chisum and Mary Bass) emigrated to South America (Peru, BOlivia) in the 1920s. and had a son Guillermo Chisum born in Peru in 1926. I'm one of the six children from Guillermo Chissum
Do you have more information to add up about Milton Chisum??
Thanks,

Nelly Chissum

Re: R.L. CHISUM {LURE}

nelch — 2010-10-03 17:45:58Z

Eva, sorry for some typograph errors. I would like to clear something that I wrote at the beginning of the previous message. I wanted to make clear that the one that emigrated to Soulth America (Bolivia,Peru) was Milton (I agreed that with Alice according with her recollections) and he is the one that passed away in Bolivia in the 1960s, and that your father Lure (RIchard Lee) his brother, was aware of this got in contact with Alice grandmother and mother.

I hope that my previous message got clear now.
Thanks,

N.CH.

Re: R.L. CHISUM {LURE}

nelch — 2010-10-03 17:36:15Z

Hi Eva:

I was wrting with Alice MendozaChisumand she told me that she is a granddaughter of Milton too, by the side in Mexico Piedras Negras,sh to and Miltonwas the one that emigrated to South America en the mids. of 1920s. (all thse she recalls from her greandmother's) and she died in Bolivia, She mentioned that in the 1960s. she got in touch with uncle Lure (RIchard Lee) who is Milton's brother, and told them (Alice grandmother and mother) that Milton passed away in Bolivia but was his wish to go back to Piedras Negras but it was too late. This tells me that your dad Lure knew about Milton's whereabouts and they were in touch somehow. Are you in touch with Alice from Mwexico (Monterrey)?? Any how is all of this make sense to you, that means that you are my father's cousin andAlice and myself are your nieces.
I'm glad to discover facts about my Chissum's ancestors. I sent a picture of my granfather Milton at the entrance of a mine in Bolivia, to see if by any means se recognize him from another pictures of the Chisums kept in the family. My father used to tell us that his father Milton used to be 14 sibbligs (I have a picture of some of them and is written at the back "At my house in Tampico", and that his father William (remarried again) in Mexico maybe that's made the 14 at the end.I know that this pictures won't be a great help for you since your father never spoke abut his sibllbings.
It looks that this sibblings were not too closed or open to their feelings when they moved on with their lives.These are my only evidences and my father's recollections as a child ( 6 or 7 years old).
Eva, was nice to know that you are part of the pieces that are coming togehter in my genealogical line of the Chisum's family. I live in Florida and we are six Chissu's sibblings.
I' interested in the Chisum's DNA testing and I already told my brother Dante that lives in Denver Colorado to submit his sample (I was advices that is better a male ssample) to stablish one family line.
Thanks Eva for all what you could say and we'll keep in
touch.
N.CH.

Re: R.L. CHISU M {LURE}

EvaLowey10 — 2010-10-03 16:46:55Z

THE FAMILY IS LARGE . THE OLDEST WAS Richard,Louie,William,Milton,Jessie,Betty,EVA, AND FRANK.THE HALF brothers are David, Jr[ lure]and Mary all that is left of the original family is William ,Betty and myself EVA.
My email is elowey@shaw.ca if you would like to keep in contact

Re: William Chisum

EvaLowey10 — 2010-10-03 16:33:01Z

Yes I do believe so I think that was Milton but not sure.please email me elowey@shaw.ca

Re: William Chisum

EvaLowey10 — 2010-10-03 16:30:49Z

PLEASE EMAIL ME elowey@shaw.ca I am sure we are related. Just never met

Re: William Chisum

EvaLowey10 — 2010-10-03 16:19:01Z

This sure sounds like we are related .Cousins as it goes .
I didn`t know much about my dads brothers or sisters. So you know more the me . It would be nice to get in touch with you . my email is elowey@shaw.ca
EVA CHISUM LOWEY

Re: CHISUM David our thanks and honor to our hero who died in Vietnam - Wall section 48W

EvaLowey10 — 2010-10-03 16:14:15Z

DAVID CHISUM WAS MY BROTHER and he did die in Vietnam. But it is not the right birthday for him so I don`t know if it is the one you are looking for.Please email me.
EVA CHISUM LOWEY--elowey@shaw.ca

Re: CHISUM David our thanks and honor to our hero who died in Vietnam - Wall section 48W

EvaLowey10 — 2010-10-03 16:13:13Z

DAVOD CHISUM WAS MY BROTHER and he did die in Vietnam. But it is not the right birthday for him so I don`t know if it is the one you are looking for.Please email me.
EVA CHISUM LOWEY--elowey@shaw.ca

Re: R.L. CHISU M {LURE}

EvaLowey10 — 2010-10-03 16:08:27Z

R.L.CHISUM WAS MY DAD .please email me elowey@shaw.ca

Re: Chisum in East Texas-To William P.Chisum

EvaLowey10 — 2010-10-03 15:43:30Z

The Richard L. Chisum`s all came from Eagle Pass, Texas. But now are spread through out the US AND CANADA,that is where I live now. My dad did have a brother named William but I dont know what became of him or his family.
Eva Chisum Lowey

Re: ne texas chisum

EvaLowey10 — 2010-10-03 15:38:58Z

YES MAE CHISUM was a chisum but I don`t know who Hubert was never heard of him, Mae lived in Arizona

Re: R.L. CHISU M {LURE}

EvaLowey10 — 2010-10-03 15:35:54Z

yes we are related . that is my family , Betty and Frank are my brother and sister David my half brother. It is a very big family THE RICHARD L. CHISUM`S. I would very much like to get to know you . please email me elowey@shaw.ca. I LIVE IN CANADA.So we are spread out through out Mexico and South America and throughout the US.
Eva Chisum Lowey

Re: R.L. CHISUM {LURE}

EvaLowey10 — 2010-10-03 15:30:23Z

I don`t know what became of my dads brothers. Milton or MEliton I believe had a ranch in Mexico somewhere. One of the brothers ended up in South America which one I am not sure I think it was Russel, dads twin. Other then that It is very possible that we are related. My dad never talked about his family at all , What I have learned was from others so I am not sure of anything.
EVA CHISUM LOWEY

Re: R.L. CHISUM {LURE}

EvaLowey10 — 2010-10-03 15:23:23Z

There is still A LONNY BASS and he lives in Eagle Pass, Texas or rather he did three years ago when I saw him and he is a cousin of mine, his mother was my mother`s sister. Whether he is the same one I don`t know. I do know that the Family has had a reacurring of names throughout history. So it is very possible he is one of the Bass`s you are looking for however he did have a brother, who did a few years ago , other then that I don`t know, Lonny does has a family ,so it is possible that you might be able to contact him or his family. Good Luck
EVA CHISUM LOWEY

Re: R.L. CHISUM {LURE}

nelch — 2010-10-03 02:46:55Z

Hi Eva:

My name is Nelly Chissum and I know that was grandfather was Milton Chisum (I have pictures of him at the entrance of a mine in Bolivia) and he had a son Guillermo Chisum born in 1926 in Lima, Peru. We never knew about his whereabouts. I would like to find my ancestors. Am I in the right track?? Are we related?

I would appreciate your response.

Thanks,

N.CH.

CHISUM David our thanks and honor to our hero who died in Vietnam - Wall section 48W

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2010-09-23 20:29:03Z

CHISUM David our thanks and honor to our hero who died in Vietnam - Wall section 48W

Honor our Veterans. This is one of many photographs of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Parker Co, TX. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 216,745 photos free at http://teafor2.com

If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is not my family.

Hi, ALicia.

nelch — 2010-09-17 00:23:13Z

Sorry for some mispellings. I answered so quickly.

Hi Alicia

nelch — 2010-09-17 00:20:52Z

Hi Alicia:

I received your email and I'll respond you promptly.
Let me ask you something I have a document that sign like this M.B. Chisum and the name of the mine company is "Siglo XX" in Bolivia. Do you his middle name that started with B? If it is the case, so sure he is the same person because they are so many facts that we share.
By the picture he was a man of meddium height and she had a serious expressio. It looks that he new spanish too,because he made a short observation in spanish "de que".Alicia I understand that you live in Mexico now, have you ever been in USA? Doyou have relatives in Tampico? Is Piedras Negras close to Tampico? Mexico is in celebration now.If you want you can give me your phone number in Mexico, I know is not easy to call from there but i can from here more easily.If nor we can keep writing mia email.

Will come back with you soon

Re: William Chisum

nelch — 2010-09-13 05:20:37Z

Hi Alicia, if he is the same person Milton Chissum (I recalled that he was named Melington?) he is my grandfagther too. You are right, he was in Bolivia in the 1920s. and he had a son,my father Guillermo Magno (that he called "Billy" and he was born in 1926) with my grandmother Esperanza from Trujillo, Peru.These relationship didn't progress and my fagther use to tell us that when he was 6 years old and before his father returned to USA, he asked my father if he wanted to go with him to USA but my father wanted to stay with his mother.I have pictures of my grandfather standing in front of a mine in Bolivia with mine workers. I have a document with his signature and some pictures of brothers Bill,Anita.....and in the back of pictures is written house in Tampico, and my father kept these pictures from his father.....my father used to tell us that his father sent him letters but his mother didn't encourage a father/son relationship and letters stopped. Melington Chisum was in Peru too because my great aunt used to tell us that she met him. I have a document from Bolivia's Embassy where my father and grandmother got visa to enter that country, south of Peru.
There was a itme, maybe 9 years ago, when I tried to find my gradfather origin but I ecountered with Chisums that the name Melington didn't ring a bell to them, although one explained to me that the Chisums emigrated to other states. My father past away in 1992 and we are six sibblings from Peru. Four (Maria, Teresa, Dora and myself) of us are in USA,one Dante is in Colorado and William is still in Peru.
My email is nellychissum@yahoo.com and my phone is 305-4464696 (after 7.00 pm.)

Re: William Chisum

amendozachisum — 2010-09-13 00:15:49Z

Nelly:
Hi! My grandfather was not an engineer. However, I think that he did work on the mines in Bolivia. Also yes, he did have family in Tampico.
He must have emigrated to Bolivia in the middle or late 1920's.
Are we related?
My mail is amendozachisum@hotmail.com

I would like to hear from you. Regards

Alicia

Re: William Chisum

nelch — 2010-09-12 06:21:56Z

Hi, was your grandfagther and mine ingineer who traveled to south america, specifically to work in the mines of Bolivia?? Did he had family in Tampico??

Re: R.L. CHISUM {LURE}

EvaLowey10 — 2010-05-02 04:46:18Z

I am sorry I don`t know much about the Bass`s I do have a cousin by the Name of Lon Bass that lives in Eagle Pass,Texas and I don`t rightly know how old he is in his 80s for sure and he does have a large family. Other then that I can not tell you
eva