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Re: Gesso Chouteau- son of Masina Lambert

jcampbell2144 — 2012-03-24 17:22:33Z

Bruce,
Have you heard from Judi? If not, she may not have been on Ancestry recently. If you will email me at osajrox2@yahoo.com, I will let her know you would like to get in touch with her. Jane

Re: Gesso Chouteau- son of Masina Lambert

haddenjb — 2012-03-14 19:17:08Z

Judi,
My name is Bruce Hadden. Your grandmother Irene was my grandmother's sister. Her name was Marie. I remember Aunt Irene visiting my grandmother in Oklahoma. In fact she made my older sister Cindy a dress while she was visiting. My dad has a few pictures stashed away of you mom that I can scan and email to you, if I can convince him to dig them out! Your greatgrandmother Ella's indian land is still intact. We've kept it in the family, as well as the stories that go along with it. Hopefully you will get this and we can communicate more.

THE CHOUTEAUS, Chouteau, Paul Ligueste Chouteau

BarbNAngel — 2010-06-14 18:37:33Z

http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/18671675/family?fpid=69392811...
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Name: Paul Ligueste Chouteau
Sex: M
Birth: 30 OCT 1792 in St Louis, Missouri, United States
Death: 10 JUL 1849 in St Louis, St Louis, Missouri, United States

Father: Jean Pierre Chouteau b: 10 OCT 1758 in New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana, United States
Mother: Pelagie Kiersereau b: 17 MAR 1767 in St Louis King of France, St Louis, Missouri, United States

Marriage Constance Dubreuil b: 17 MAR 1767 in St Louis, Missouri, United States

Children
Edward L. Chouteau b: 09 MAY 1786 in St Louis, St Louis, Missouri, United States

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THE FOLLOWING IS FROM THE CHONICLES OF OKLAHOMA, VOLUME 11
THE CHOUTEAUS
and
Their Commercial Enterprises
Part 1
By HARRIETTE JOHNSON WESTBROOK
INTRODUCTION

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The Choteau (sic) family played so important a part in the economic history of the western frontier, its power was distributed so well throughout a large family, with the younger members ever ready to carry on the work begun by the older ones that we may well describe this family by calling it an economic dynasty. Rene' Auguste Choteau founded the dynasty which dominated, for so many years, the City of St. Louis and the fur trade in the Missouri valley.

We know little abour the very early life of Rene' Auguste Choteau, except that he was born in New Orleans and was the son of Rene' and Marie Therese Bourgeois Choteau(1). Pierre Laclede Liguest became his step-father, when Auguste was still a young boy(2). The dates given for the birth of Rene' Auguste vary greatly. This is not an especially important point, but it is interesting to note that some authorities say he was born in 1739(3), and some say 1750(4), but the generally accepted year seems to be 1749.(5)

Auguste [the Rene' was soon dropped] Choteau was joined by his half-brother, Pierre, in directing the family fortunes. Another pair of brothers, sons of Pierred the elder, carried on the work begun by the earlier pair. These younger brothers were Auguste Pierre and Pierre Choteau Jr., know to his family as "Cadet"(6). These four men were ably assisted by many others, related to them by blood or marriage. A brief survey of some of these connections will help us to understand the family history.

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1. Bennitt, ed., History of Louisiana Purchase Exposition, p. 47.
2. Thwaites, Early Western Travels, Vol. 22, p. 216, n.
3. International Encyclopedia, Vol 5, p. 274.
4. Bennitt, p. 47.
5. Americana, Vol. 6, p. 595.
6. Chittenden, History of the Fur Trade, p. 382 disputes other authorities. He says Pierre Jr. was the son of Auguste Chouteau.

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Auguste Choteau married Marie Therese, daughter of Gabriel Cerre', a fur trader who had moved from Kaskaskia to St. Lois. Auguste Choteau had a son, Augustus Aristide Choteau(7). Pieere Chouteau (sic) the Elder is described as the younger half-brother of Auguste(8). Since Auguste's mother was living and since Pierre Laclede Liguest was step father to Auguste at the time of the establishment of St. Louis, we may surmise that the little half-brother was the son of Pierre Laclede Liguest, although he was called "Chouteau." This theory is strengthened by references to Pierre Chouteau Jr. as a grandson of Liguest(9).

Pierre Chouteau the Elder, so called, was the father of several sons. August Pierre, Pierre Jr., and Paul Liguest are reputed to be sons by one marrieage(10). By another union he was the father of Cyprian(11) and Louis Pharamond(12). Francis and Frederick Chouteau, who were part Osage, were probably his sons. Pierre Chouteau Jr. became a great merchant prince, probably the best known of the dynasty.

Auguste and Pierre Choteau Sr. had a sister who married Sylvester L'Abbadie, also interested in the fur trade. Their daughter, Emilie, was married in 1794 to Bernard Pratte, another fur trader. Bernard Pratte Jr., offspring of this union, made the third generation in this direct line to enter the fur business(13). Sophie L'Abbadie, sister of Emilie, married her cousin Auguste Pierre Chouteau(14). Later in life, A.P. Chouteau married an Osage girl, called Rosalie, and by her had several children(15).

Pierre Chouteau Jr. married Emily Gratiot and her sister married Emily Gratiot and her sister married Jean Pierre Cabanne', a fur trader associated with the Chouteau company. Charles P. Chouteau was the son of Pierre and he in turn had a son Pierre Jr., to whom we are entitled for much knowledge about this interesting family(16). Paul Ligueste Chouteau, brother of Pierre Chouteau Jr., was succeeded by a son, Edward L. Chouteau.

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7. Foreman, Pioneer Days in the Southwest, p. 211.
8. Thwaites, Vol. 16, p. 275, n.
9. Bennitt, p. 77.
10. Foreman, p.24.
11. Thwaites, Vol. 22, p. 251, n.
12. Foreman, p. 208.
13. Thwaites, Early Western Travels, Vol. 22, p. 282.
14. Thwaites, Vol 20, p. 108, n.

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The first recorded step toward founding this commercial empire in the west was taken in the latter part of 1763 when an expedition was sponsored by Maxent, Laclede and Co. sailed from New Orleans up to Ft. Chartres. Here their supplies were stored for the winter. Laclede, the leader of the group, and his yound stepson went on up the river looking for a desirable spot on which to build a trading post. In December, 1763, they decided upon a point neart the mouth of the Missouri River. Then they returned to Ft. Chartres to await the coming of milder weather(17). During the months of waiting, men were recruited from Ft. Chartes, Cahokia, and Ste, Genevieve and on February 15, 1764, about thirty of these men were sent across the river to clear the land for the new post. In spite of his youth, August Chouteau was put in command of these men(18). Toung Chouteau was then hardly fourteen years old but the Chouteau men, like many other pioneer youths, have been able to assume responsibility at an early age.

Numerous trees were growing on the site of the new post. Under Chouteau's direction these were felled and from them were built the first houses where St. Louis now stands. In April, Laclede brought a stock of goods and joined the pioneers at the post. Laclede named the place St. Louis, in honor of Louis IX, the cononized former king of France(19). For some years, however, the nickname Pain-court (short [loaf of] bread) was in more common use. Ir may have described the scarcity of provisions during the first year(20). <20> The settlement at St. Louis had probably been made more than a year before news of the cession of this territory to Spain reached the little outpost. During this year a number of other proud Creole families had come from New Orleans. There ensued several years of friction between them and the Spanish authorities.

Laclede and Choteau began at once the two-fold policy of expansion which led to the supremacy of their trading company. The objectives of this policy were, first, to win the confidence and allegianceof the Indians, their principle customers, and, second, to improve the physical conditions of their headquarters post.

17. Ghent, Early Far West, p. 36.
18. Thwaites, Early Western Travels, p. 147. Vol. 26.
19. Ghent, Early Far West, p. 36.
20. Ibid.

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Chronicles of Oklahoma
Volume 11, No. 2
June, 1933

THE CHOUTEAUS
and
Their Commercial Enterprises
Part I
By HARRIETTE JOHNSON WESTBROOK

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Decendancy of Pierre CHOUTEAU

Edward L. Chauteau.

Creoles of St. Louis By Paul Edmond Beckwith

This is a book with a PDF file, very information

Has Labbadie, Emily, Pelaie, Sophie, and Sylvester. Nobel, Ella A., Peugnet, Armand, Ernest, Louise d.

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Mother of Cora Baker Chouteau

BJMEANS — 2010-05-02 16:39:50Z

Seeking information on the mother of Cora (Baker) Chouteau.Where and when did she die? Cora Baker was married to Azby August Chouteau Sr. Cora Baker was born 25 Nov. 1861 died feb. 6, 1927,father was Marion Baker mother was Mary T. Young. Cora B. Chouteau was the grandaughter of Gov. Shelby, first Governor of Kentucky she married Azby A. Chouteau who was born on Dec. 8, 1853 and died on Oct. 24, 1925, on Jul 25, 1883. Their children were Azby A. Jr. and Henry Armistead Chouteau. Cora's mother was named Mary T. Young she was married to a Baker, Ridenbaugh and possibly a Valentine. Thank you in advance.

Cora Baker chouteau Archives

BJMEANS — 2010-04-10 20:39:25Z

Please help! I am looking for information on how to purchase this scrapbok that was at one time listed on the website "corabaker.com/history" and was put together by Jane Clark Chouteau, created by Design-Sight as far back as 2009. The images in this scrapbook were taken from contents of two original scrapbooks that were kept by Jane C. Chouteau's grandfather Henry August Chouteau. I have tried to contact this person to buy this book, however I have not been able to get a response. If anyone has this book or know of anyone who has it I would be willing to discuss a method of payment to have the pages copied and sent to me.

Thank you.

Re: Dr. Gerard Chouteau born about 1829

elliottllc — 2010-02-15 18:07:21Z

Joe- Far:
I would indeed be interested in receiving the pictures. He is my maternal gg grandfather.

Like you I have been looking into the Heidelberg records. Stanford University has the graduation records, but none of the names for that period seem to click.

I have also look into the ship records Hamburg to New Orleans without success.

My e-mail is elliottllc@earthlink.net
Do you want a mailing address?

How are you related? What has been your interest in the Doctor?

Thanks for your interest. I will be happy to pay for any expense you may incur.

Bill Elliott

Re: Dr. Gerard Chouteau born about 1829

lillie550 — 2010-01-27 15:05:58Z

Hi William,

Thank you for the info. I'm glad to know that he is buried where I had him buried. I have most everything you sent me. I have been in touch with Heidelburg University about trying to find his real name. The person I got in touch with said it would cost a lot to do the research on him so I never got any further. I have a copy of his death bed statement from a member of the family here in Alabama. He was my Granddaugther's GGGGG Grandfather. I think I put enough G's in my note. I have pictures of him, his wife and descendants here in Alabama. Are you kin to him? I will email you my info on him if you want it. Email me your email address. Mine is joefar@bellsouth.net.

Re: Dr. Gerard Chouteau born about 1829

elliottllc — 2010-01-25 21:21:59Z

I have more information on his family here in the us. There is a translation from the german in the St Louis historical society that says his real name is Rocero, Prince of Austria. It indicates his brother Filippo killed their father and he was blamed for it. Then he left the country.

He attended the Heidelberg University but a review of the matriculation records do not help to identify him.

He appears to have been a contract surgeon for the south in the civil war.

After the way he sided with the Union and the KKK tried to kill him. Much testimony is available in the congressional records.

He indeed is buried in the Bluff Springs cemetery near Blue Mound.

William Elliott

Re: Chouteau family in Oklahoma

shasta814 — 2008-10-26 18:33:06Z

I was looking thru some of my old post my email is shasta814@yahoo.com now I am still interested in any help if you have it.
Kim

Cora Baker Chouteau

BJMEANS — 2008-08-04 20:02:34Z

I found a website that has information on Cora Baker Chouteau in the form of a scrapbook. This scrapbook has been digitally scaned by Jane Clark Chouteau and is for sale.I have not as yet been able to buy it. Jane Clark Chouteau is the great granddaughter of Cora B. Chouteau. Her father was Pierre Philippe Chouteau son of Henry August Chouteau. The website is "The Cora Baker Archives" Have you seen this website?

Barbara

Cora Baker Chouteau Archives

BJMEANS — 2008-08-04 19:49:45Z

Has anyone been able to get the Cora Baker Scrapbook that is digitally scaned by Jane C. Chouteau? The images in this scrapbook were taken from contents of two original scrapbooks that were kept by her great grandmother, Cora Baker Chouteau who married Azby Chouteau. I understand that these documents were kept by her grandfather, Henry August Chouteau, and were in the in the possession of her father, Cora Baker Chouteau's grandson Pierre Phillippe Chouteau who inherited the scrapbook from his father, Henry August Chouteau. On the website you can view some of the photo's of Cora and her sons.

Good Luck

Re: Chouteau heritage questions

GeraldMartinez1970 — 2007-10-28 05:12:34Z

Hi Mary P Chouteau! Born 25 Apr...I have you in the chouteau family tree written by your uncle Thomas Chouteau...I have the whole Chouteau lineage, let me know your e-mail address and I will give you access to my ancestry.com account!

Yvonne Martini, daughter of Judith Claire Chouteau.

Chouteau DNA Studies?

2006-05-26 04:04:19Z

Hello,
Does anyone know of any DNA studies for the Chouteau surname?

My great great grandmother was Mary Pauline Chouteau who was born in about 1844 in the St. Louis area. Her father was listed as "Paul Chouteau."

If my Mary was the daughter of the famous Paul Liguest Chouteau she was born after both of his wives died, so I don't know where to go with that idea.

I believe that at times she may have also used the last name of Laclede.

I have read lots of Chouteau genealogies, but haven't been able to nail down just how Mary fits into the Choteau line and where in the Chouteau line the "Paul Chouteau" that was her father belonged.

Thank you.

Cora Baker "Ridenbaugh" Chouteau

barbarameans — 2006-03-11 13:46:21Z

It has been a long time since we corresponded. I do not think you told me what your connection was to this family? Have you been able to find out anything more about Cora or her family?

Chouteau/Laclede at St. Louis

rodohu11 — 2006-01-16 18:24:48Z

Elise Papin, of St. Louis, was a gg-granddaughter of Pierre de Laclede Liquest, one of the founders of St. Louis. Her great-grandparents were Joseph Marie and Marie Louise (Chouteau) Papin.

At or about 1891, Elise Papin (1870-1941) married William Hargadine Walker (1864-1913).

Walker was a son of David Davis and Martha (Beaky) Walker, of St. Louis, who were gg-grandparents of President George Walker Bush.

Re: Chouteau

2006-01-11 06:55:36Z

Sorry, I have no information on those Chouteau's. It is a very, very, very large extended family. I may be related to your Chouteau, but don't have any information on the one you asked about.

Re: Chouteau

lillie550 — 2006-01-10 23:50:34Z

Do you have any info on a Dr. Gerard Chouteau born about 1829 married a Nancy Angeline Payne in Alabama and they lived in and around Blue MOund, Illinois?

Chouteau Family-Indian Traders-Indian Agent-1804-1854-Mo.-Kansas

dsegelquist — 2005-12-13 16:06:32Z

Chouteau Family 1804-1854 Mo. Add on.

dsegelquist — 2005-12-13 16:06:32Z

Chouteau ( Catholic Church ) at the mouth of the Kansas River, approximately at the South line of eleventh street. At the intersection with Pennsylvania Avenue. Present Kansas City Mo. About November 1839 Chouteau Church was called the Church of St. Francis Regis and under that name it appeared in Catholic records thereafter.

Marie Pauline Chouteau b. MO 1843

helm627 — 2005-11-30 18:01:09Z

Hello, My great great grandmother, Marie or Mary Pauline Chouteau was born in MO in 1843. She married Henry Klute or Clute in St. Clair Co., Il, in 1859.

Does anyone have a Marie Pauline in their Chouteau line? She died in 1901 and is burried at Mt. Carmel in Belleville, IL.

I have been at a loss to find Marie Pauline's family, but have thought that maybe her middle name was a clue to her genealogy since the name "Paul" comes up in various Chouteau genealogies. Seems like most of the Chouteau women were named Marie but were given different middle names. My Marie named her own son, my g grandpa, John Paul, so I hope that "Paul" may point me to her people.

I have her with Henry on the 1870, 1880, and 1900 census in IL, but other than the fact that she was born in MO, I have no idea who her parents were.

Thanks to anyone who can help me.
Lexi

Mathilda White Chouteau...Frederick's wife

fdeen — 2005-11-26 06:15:01Z

Does anyone have information on the parents of Mathilda White...one of Frederick Chouteau's wives? Their daughter, Emily Chouteau Elliott was my gggrandmother.The Elliotts left Johnson County, Kansas for Oklahoma with the Shawnee's in the 1870's. Her daughter,
Emma, was married to James Lincoln Beatty. Would appreciate any leads ....Thanks.

Re: Jean Baptiste Belcour

gmanstl — 2005-09-18 14:34:15Z

Did you contact Virginia Easley DeMarce Veasleyd@aol.com ?
She posted the information on: http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=vedema... about L. A. CHATEAU.
"This data base is the beginning of an effort to create a family-linked cross index to the early records of Boone Co., MO. It hasn't been updated since September 16, 2001, because I broke my ankle and didn't have the energy. We still welcome additions and corrections from descendants of the individual families, but don't know when they will be entered. Please ignore the importation information in brackets at the beginning of each "Notes" section, which is the product of computer difficulties."
That is where I suggest you start, and also look around all Cedar Boone County MO for information: http://www.bocomo.org/ ,
Fred W. Perkins gray_wolf99_00@yahoo.com is listed as researching CHOUTEAU in Boone County MO
It's not uncommon for the earl surnames to have several different spellings.

Chouteau's

2005-08-25 02:48:21Z

Irene, I have found that the Chouteaus of St
Louis, August and Pierre were slave owners.
I found Documents in New Orleans, where they
lived before founding St Louis, Mo with
Jacques LaClede. I have no link to the other
party you asked about. Hope this helps.

Re: Chouteau's

2005-08-25 02:46:07Z

I'm afraid I haven't read the book. Is it supposed to be historically acurate? The Chouteaus, August and Pierre moved to St Louis in 1764 or soon thereafter when, with LaClede they founded St Louis as far as I understand. They might have had a brother in New Orleans that stayed but I don't know. Sorry I couldn't help. Rene Paul

Re: Chouteaus in St Louis

2005-08-25 02:45:51Z

I'm very glad you wrote. I guess we are very distant cousins but related never the less. Rene Paul was my namesake nd it is very neat to know he had a sister. Thanks for that piece of info. I live in western Washington if that is of interest. I would like to know more about you as far as where your family has lived and where you live etc. Please keep in touch. Rene Paul.

Chouteaus in St Louis

2005-08-25 02:44:02Z

Suzie, well hello!!! I'm pretty excited about
making contact with a another decendant of
the Chouteas. I do have the book, THE
FIRST CHOUTEAUS, you mentioned. Where do you
live? At present I live in Wwashington St. My
father was born in VA. My Grandfather was
born Ft Laramie Wyoming. My GR GR GR GR Grand
father, Rene Paul, was from France and
married a daughter of August Chouteau in St
Louis. Her name was Marie Therese Eulalie
His Brother Gabriel also married a daughter
of August named Marie Louise. I would be
interested in seeing how we are related. If
that interests you please lets keep in touch
and get that book back from your brother.
Rene Paul

Chouteau

2005-08-25 02:43:09Z

I am interested in finding a connection to
the Chouteau Families of the Chouteau Brothers
of St Louis Mo. Their names were August and
Pierre. The along with Jacques Laclede
founded St Louis up from New Orleans in the
1700's. Email me at arpee@telebyte.net.
My Gr Gr Gr Gr Grandfather Rene Paul Married
August's Daughter. Rene Paul

Re: Chouteau

2005-08-25 02:35:57Z

I am looking for information concerning Pelagie Chouteau, who married Barthelemew Berthold. Barthelemew Berthold helped to form (and reform) the American Fur Company over a time span of three decades. My interests focus mainly on the economic and political endeavors and plans of the Chouteau's enterprises in New Mexico and Chihuahua, Mexico. For a fact, either A.P. or Pierre Chouteau passed through the Santa Fe trail and was promptly arrested by Spanish Authorities in New Mexico where he was imprisoned (and gathered intelligence) for years. I am looking to know if any other members of this powerful family traveled deep into new mexico later on, as well. Thanks-- John Garcia

Re: Jean Baptiste Belcour

GeorgeJ_J — 2005-08-09 04:57:45Z

A relative of Carolyn's father contacted me today.
He saw our old post about Wilson White's parents, Peter and Ada WHITE. They were her GGrandparents.
I would like to get her contact information to Carolyn's family, since they are related.

Dr. Gerard Chouteau born about 1829

lillie550 — 2005-06-01 05:20:01Z

I am looking for Gerard's family. His real name was not Chouteau. He took the Chouteau family name from Henry Chouteau after he came to the US about 1850. He is supposed to be buried in the Bluff Springs Methodist Church Cemetery, in Blue Mound, Illinois. Can anyone verify that he is buried there? He died before 1900, as his wife in Alabama is listed as a widow on the 1900 Census. Who were his parents and was he born in Austria or Louisiana? I have pictures of him as a young man and as an older man. I also have a picture of his daughter.

Re: Jean Baptiste Belcour

sue_80p — 2005-05-25 01:31:08Z

I would like to know about his parents and grandparents. I know he married Mary Grindstaff about 1867, Had a son Samuel [b. 1870 ] a daughter Ida [ b. 1873 ]. L.A. & Mary had both died before 1880 census. The children were raised by the Grindstaff's.

Re: Jean Baptiste Belcour

sue_80p — 2005-05-25 01:31:08Z

I don't know if its L.A. or La, I still can't find out anything
about his Mom and dad when he died or where he is buried.
I do know in info I have for whatever reason his name was
spelled [Chateau ] His son Sam & daughter Ida spelled
[ Chouteau ]
Mical Parker

Sam or Samuel Chouteau

sue_80p — 2005-05-25 01:31:08Z

Trying to find a Chouteau link. Probably Indian. He was my gggrandfather Born around 1870 , and in the 1880 census and 1900 census he was living in Missouri in Boone County.I would like to close this gap. I hope someone can help.

Re: Jean Baptiste Belcour

GeorgeJ_J — 2005-04-02 13:57:11Z

Sorry to hear that. I had been working with her for several months on locating her biological Father. I'm glad I was able to help her indentify and get a picture of him before she passed. I will let the other people that helped us know the sad news.
You can reach me off list georgejjonesjr@hotmail.com. I stll have a lot of our research and e-correspondence on my old computer.

Re: Jean Baptiste Belcour

ohdak — 2005-04-02 13:15:38Z

Hello, I am very sorry to inform you that Carolyn Ellison
passed away 2/13/05, I am her cousin and would love
to share information. Carolyn had done a lot of research
over the years, we will miss her greatly.
Thank You

Re: Jean Baptiste Belcour

micalp — 2005-03-28 06:06:43Z

Thank you for responding. I did contact Virginia, I got an e-mail from her today and she did'nt know any more than what was already posted about L.A, Chateau or Chouteau. I know all about his wife and where she is buried but no record of him. Also I have talked to Fred Perkins. He is my great aunt's
grandson, and we have shared information.

Re: Sam or Samuel Chouteau

micalp — 2005-03-28 05:50:31Z

I have been told all my life that we were in fact part Indian, and Sam Chouteau was my g-granfather and his dad was L.A. Chateau or [Chouteau] Now I am trying to find out anything I can about L.A.Chateau. The information so far vague. [no record of death, burial or parents] Just his wife and 2 kids. Thank you for any help.
Ron Parker

Re: Sam or Samuel Chouteau

GeorgeJ_J — 2005-03-27 15:34:20Z

Are your saying, you think there is a Indian connection between L.A. CHATEAU and Mary L. GRINDSTAFF or L.A.CHATEAU and his parents.

Re: Jean Baptiste Belcour

GeorgeJ_J — 2005-03-17 19:41:05Z

Re: Jean Baptiste Belcour

GeorgeJ_J — 2005-03-17 08:28:45Z

Is this the Family?
http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=vedema...

ID: I64874
Name: L. A. Chateau
Sex: M
ALIA: L. A. /Chouteau/
Birth: BEF. 1850

Marriage 1 Mary L. Grindstaff b: ABT. 1851 in Missouri
Children
Sam Chouteau b: ABT. 1870 in Missouri
Ida Chouteau b: ABT. 1873 in Missouri

What information are you looking for, additional information on L.A. Chateau ?

Re: Jean Baptiste Belcour

micalp — 2005-03-17 06:28:47Z

I always heard that we were related to the Chouteau's from St. Louis. I can't find anything on L.A. Chouteau. I don't know what L or A stand for, he was born abt 1850. I have found the Grindstaff's all the way back to 1786

Re: Jean Baptiste Belcour

GeorgeJ_J — 2005-03-16 02:05:44Z

I haven't heard from Carolyn in some time, I don't know if she is still on line.
Maybe I can help you.
Where your Chouteau's related to the St. Louis Chouteaus.
If so there is plenty of information on the whole family.

Re: Jean Baptiste Belcour

micalp — 2005-03-15 17:49:58Z

I am trying to trace my line in the Chouteau family and I noticed in your query that you spelled Chouteau [ Chateau ].
My g-g-grandfather Was listed the same way, but his children were [ Chouteau ]. His name as best I can find thus far is L.A. Chouteau. I am trying to find out who his parents
were. He was born abt. 1850 and married May Grindstaff abt. 1867. Can anyone help ?

Re: Chouteau heritage questions

2005-03-15 07:31:34Z

Hi Mary--
Hope you get this message...you posted so long ago. I have in my family records a Gordon Chouteau. His father is Frederick Louis Chouteau Jr. His mother is Kittie Dalsing? or Balsing (the writing is hard to read). His grandfather is Fred Louis Chouteau Sr. and grandmother Adele Cornatzer.

This is just a few names--I do have more information going back farther. Please email me at vollrathfamily@hotmail.com.

Chouteau heritage questions

2005-01-22 21:46:07Z

hi, i am a chouteau descendant, don't quite understand the linkage, my father is gordon p chouteau his father fredrick chouteau, i know of some shawnee linkage would like some info

Re: Jean Baptiste Belcour

2004-12-08 23:41:04Z

I am trying to figure out how my gr gr grandfather was related to Chateou and if he went north and married into the Native American like Chateou did..Yes, Verna is trying to help me find my biological father...I sent her alot of information on her line of Eppersons..I've run into this before..

Re: Jean Baptiste Belcour

GeorgeJ_J — 2004-12-08 02:41:05Z

Carolyn,
What type of information do you need?
I'm also working on part of the Chouteau family for a local project about Jennette FORCHET.
I'm also doing the EPPERSON research for Verna EPPERSON eppersonv@hotmail.com
Is it the EPPERSON line of your family that's related to BELCOUR?

Re: Chouteau family in Oklahoma

janet_williamson4 — 2004-09-18 08:21:46Z

I am trying to piece together the lives of Charles Cowardin and his children. Emma and Edwin Cowardin were sent to live with a John Chouteau after their mother died sometime after 1870. They were said to live somewhere around Big Cabin, though as adults they are found in Vinita and Blue Jacket, OK. The youngest child, Charles Cowardin was living with his grandmother, Jane Bender in Arkansas. Catherine "Lucy" (Bender) Cowardin was their mother and was said to be Indian. Her father was German, however, so if she was she was not full blood. Her mother Jane was from TN

Jean Baptiste Belcour

carolyn166_1 — 2004-06-13 00:08:46Z

My gr gr great grandfather Jean Baptiste was with Augusta Chouteau several times and helped build the fort..He is also on probat records along with Augusta Chouteau...I have a Agusta Chouteau b. Sept 17, 1749 New Orleans, La d. Feb 25, 1829 St.Louis.Mo..married Marie Theresa Cerre...Isee wgere you also have Catherine Giarad,,Ialso have the Giarad in my line too..Plus a Menard line too..I'm trying to fit them together here..My gr gr grgreat grandfather Jean Belcour was in Augusta wills and another will where they both witnessed it..Seems to me they were abit close..Any help would be appriciated...Thanks...Carolyn