Chronister - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Nancy Eaker Chronister ?Eaker?

CarlaPiearcy — 2012-05-13 20:44:24Z

The "Keys" children's mother was indeed named "Nancy".I don't know Which "nancy" but I do know that. Polly Ann Keys{Case} was my grandmother's grandmother.She married D.Elisha Duvall on Jan.1st 1854 in pope Co. My grandma always said that the other twin "Mary Ann" died. I'd like to know where Azariah and Nancy are buried so that I might look for Mary ann.We also don't know where "Polly Ann" was buried.My grandma said that she never knew where she was buried,just grandpa Elisha.{Shady Grove} Thanks, Carla

Re: Chronister, Troy Eugene

ginigonser — 2011-07-21 19:11:53Z

Wow all these years passed and I don't even know if I emailed you about this. I am Troy's daughter and I am 33 now married with 2 boys. I started researching trying to find out what my heritage is like if we came from Germany or what. Anyways if you are still interested in any information about my father please contact me at ginigonser@hotmail.com I know it's been a long time but I would like to know as much info about his as I can. I am trying to research and find out if he was ever baptized in my church LDS or not so if you remember him ever talk about Church I would appreciate any information you have.

Re: James Pryor Chronister

rondakf — 2011-07-11 15:16:41Z

Not sure if you will get this as your post is about 10 years old. I might have some info you don't have. Not sure you remember me. I am Sallies daughter, You babysat me when we were younger.
Ronda

Re: Chronisters,Iron County, Mo

rondakf — 2011-07-11 13:46:13Z

not sure you will get this since your email address is 2 years old. Contact me concerning the genealogy on Patrick H Chronister.
Ronda
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Re: Ruby M. (Williams) Chronister

1PeggyReeves — 2011-04-22 19:01:32Z

The Charles A. Chronister of Benton Harbor, MI, that I know about was a brother to my Sarah M. Chronister in PA. Some of the siblings began moving to Michigan when their oldest half-brother, Dixon O. Chronister, moved to Michigan after his service in the Civil War. Dixon's brother, Lewis Wesley Chronister, also moved from PA to MI. The Charles A. Chronister that you are talking about was probably the son or grandson of one of these brothers.

Ruby M. (Williams) Chronister

jbgray30 — 2011-03-29 01:38:43Z

Im looking for anyone with information on my Grandmother. She was born apr. 1924 and died Sep 1994. I cant find any information on her. She was married to Charles A. Chronister of Benton Harbor. Last known address was Taube in benton harbor, mi. If anyone has any information on either my grandfather or gramdmother please email me at jbgray30 at yahoo.com. I do have a bit of information on the Chronister line of where we came from and how we got here and also a few documents.

Re: Johannes Chronister the Immigrant

jbgray30 — 2011-03-29 01:31:06Z

Hi my name is Becky Chronister and i believe we might have some relation down the line. I also was from the chronister line of adams, co. and Ohio, pen. I did happen to find a page from a boat ledger from germany. A ship came over to america bringing people from germany over. And on that page it showed Johannes chronister on there. And also if you wasnt aware of it. The "Chronister" name came from Kronister. When our family first came over from germany. but if you have any other info please let me know so we may beable to compare notes.

Re: Looking for Bessie Chronister who married Virgil Shelby Chronister

GENJ2000 — 2011-02-28 18:05:53Z

i am virgils and bessies great grandaughter. bessies maiden name was parrish. i am dora (chronister) bass' granddaughter my mother was diana (bass) brady. i hope to hear from u soon. i am looking also for further info on virgil and bessie.

Re: George Chronister of PA

pdtrueoverton — 2010-10-06 03:10:16Z

Did George CHRONISTER have a brother Johannes? My GG grandfather was Johannes from Adams Co. Penn. He moved his family to Mount Pleasant, Iowa.
Patricia True Overton

Re: Chronister

pdtrueoverton — 2010-10-06 03:03:22Z

I have a GG grandfather Johannes CHRONISTER from Penn. He moved to Mount Pleasant, Iowa. His daughter Leah is my G Grandmother. Does this info fit with yours?
Patricia True Overton

Re: FOR CYNTHIA ANNE CHRONISTER

pdtrueoverton — 2010-10-06 02:49:18Z

my gg grandfather is Johannes CHRONISTER from Penn. I think he moved to Iowa. His daughter Leah married Thaddius FICKEL. Their daughter Dora married my grandfather William HOFMEISTER. Does any of this info fit with yours?
thank you for any help you can give me
Patricia True Overton

Jerry Fred Chronister 1938 - 2009

Liz_leavell — 2010-08-27 03:01:34Z

Courier- Russellville,Arkansas
Jerry Fred Chronister,71 of Atkins died Sunday, Aug. 2,2009 at Little Rock.
He was born June 16,1938 in Atkins and was the son of the late Claude and Sarah Duvall Chronister. He was also preceded in death by a brother, Johnny Wayne Chronister and sister Norm Wright.
He was a poultry and cattle farmer.
He is survived by his wife Doris Jean Chronister; sons and daughter-in-law, Kenneth and Tina Linboom, and Dough Nucklos; daughters and sons-in-law Kristie Chronister, Kimberly and Eric Napier, and Sarah and Greg Harris all of Atkins; 10 grandchildren and two great-grandchildren;two brothers and sisters-in-law, Don and Kim Chronister and Jimmy Dean and Evelyn Chronister both of Atkins; and sisters and brothers - in - law, Pat and J.T. Robertson and Louise and O.D. Lewis both of Russellville.
Funeral services will be at 2 p.m. Wednesday, Aug. 5,2009 at Union Grove Free Will Baptist Church with the Rev. David Bishop officiating. Bural will be in Suggs Cemetery by Lemely Funeral Service.
Pallbearers will be Timmy Chronister, Jamie Chronister, Jeremey Chronister, Josh Chronister and Jessie Eaton.
Honorary pallbearers are Edmond Cunningham, Walter Cunningham,Fred Albert Lunningham, Berkley Burris, Ray Heflin, Frank Southard, Eddie Ray Chronister, Glen Chronister, Jim Welsh, Floyd Allen, and J.M. Simmons

CHRONISTER George W together forever

t42LittleElm_DentonCoTX — 2010-06-24 14:46:39Z

CHRONISTER George W together forever

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CHRONISTER Sylvia F 1919 1984 together forever

t42LittleElm_DentonCoTX — 2010-06-24 14:46:25Z

CHRONISTER Sylvia F 1919 1984 together forever

DavidStrickland photographed this gravestone in the Little Elm Cemetery, Denton Co., Texas. Feel free to use the picture for your personal records.

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Re: Chronister- Starry

JReese386 — 2010-05-28 17:34:57Z

Hi Peggy, its been awhile, question, was David chronister
born 1785 in Adams Co Pa. also is Betsy his wife stand for Elizabeth and her maiden name Bower b. 1783? and is Sarah A Chronister also listed as Catherine, is she the same person?
i know Sarah married John Peter Starry and had Sarah b1852 who married William H Miller, Sarah Miller is my grandnother so that would make Sarah Starry my great grandmother is that right. and do you know where she is buried ? her daughter Sarah Miller is buried in Dillsburg Cemetery. Thank You. Joyce Miller Reese

Henry J Chronister

michelletrott78 — 2010-01-25 04:18:34Z

I am looking for as much information on Henry J Chronister born in Feb. 1844. I know his father was David Chronister 1814/1816 and his mother was Margaret Yohe 1819. But I can't seem to find David Chronister anywhere. If you have any information please e-mail me at trott.michelle@yahoo.com

Thank You!
Michelle

Re: Oscar Glenn line

BeckyDickson74 — 2010-01-19 04:01:19Z

John B.E. Glenn's parents were Johnathan Glenn and Hannah Sabre (Sparks).

Johnathan's parents were Abigail (Rogers) and John Glenn.

John and Abigail had several other children, one of them being Elizabeth who married to a Tucker but he died and then she married his brother, Robert Tucker. Robert and Elizabeth had a daughter, Amanda, who married Sebe Coker. Their son, John B.E. Glenn, is the one who married Nancy Coker (above). So John B.E. and Nancy were 2nd cousins.

Most of Abigail's and John's children married Tucker siblings.

I hope this isn't too confusing.

There is a book, Glenn-Tucker vs Choctaw and Chickasaw Nations, that has within its covers the court proceedings and depositions of the Glenns and Tuckers trying to get their Indian rights. They were denied.

There is another book, Descendants of John Glenn and Abigail Rogers. It has all the census on the Glenn families, plus their lineages and other family info through 1920. It doesn't include Red's siblings families because I didn't want to give out anyone else's private information.

I hope this has helped.

Re: Oscar Glenn line

BeckyDickson74 — 2010-01-19 03:51:36Z

As for the Indian rolls, are you on them? Red said he was just a young boy ... 10 or 11 ... when his mother took them to McAlester where she signed them up on the rolls. That would have been about 1905-06. Her relatives said she had a roll number written on the flap of her purse, but I can't find a record of it anywhere.

When George was killed it is said that he always carried his important papers in his pocket. He didn't trust them to be anywhere. When he was killed all of his papers were supposedly missing from his body.

I'd still like to hear the story about the coin. :)

Lilly was of a religion that some people don't care for. I can't remember if it was Jehovah Witness or what, or that is what I heard. I also heard that she wouldn't let their father see them much. I don't know if that is true or not.

I saw Willene several times. She was a beautiful woman and yes, she lived in Ft. Smith. I think she had 2 sons. I met one of them when her mother died. In fact, I was mowing and caring for the burial plots when I met him at Wister Cemetery. I'm thinking his name was David ???

Where do you live? I just moved back to Wister from Texas. My email address for a short few months will is bkglenn at verson dot net

Red has a daughter still living at Poteau. I know you would probably love talking with her. She's at the nursing home and still alert about the family members she knew/knows.

Write me ... I'd love to see the pictures.

Re: Oscar Glenn line

BeckyDickson74 — 2010-01-19 03:40:20Z

Okay, I don't have all of my genealogy with me. I've moved to TX and it is all still in TX, but let's see if I can reply to this with at least a little knowledge.

Red Glenn had siblings but I can't remember all their names. He was the oldest. There was Albert, Albert, Sis, Doll. Red, my grandfather, was born October 10, 1895 Choctaw Nation (Oklahoma). Their father was George Glenn who died in 1923 because he was crossing a railroad track in Wister and a train hit his wagon and killed him. He was married to Lena Chronister who had sisters Minta and ?. Minta married Philmon Ray. Their son was also named Philmon.

Lena married second to Ben Powers.

Lena and George are buried in the Wister Cemetery. I heard they raised some of their grandchildren. I was thinking it was Sonny and Patsy.

George had a brother, John Glenn, and sisters Ollie and Mollie. Ollie married an Inman. I can't remember who Ollie married.

George's parents were Nancy (Coker) and John B.E. Glenn. John B.E. was born in MO, as was George. Nancy was his second wife and she produced for him besides these 4 children 5 children by two other husbands. Nancy is buried in Allen Oklahoma. John was married before Nancy but his wife died and that's when he married Nancy.

It gets complicated after that. :D :D :D

To be continued. :D

Oscar Glenn line

cherylinthepink — 2010-01-18 16:28:24Z

I certainly mixed up posts there. It was a jmiller that is Dollie's descendent and he wrote to you. So I'll try to post him and tell him the story.

Oscar Glenn, my grandfather, would be Red's brother. Younger? Older? I don't remember without looking. I've certainly heard the name Uncle Red Glenn from my mother. Though she only kept up with Aunt Sis,Red and Oscar's sister, until she died sometime around the mid 70's. Aunt Sis had a daughter named Willene that married a Sharp, in Ft. Smith. I don't know if she had any boys.

As far as I remember,my mother says that Lena Chronister Glenn missed the deadline to be included on the Choctaw Indian roles. It was something she cried about until she died.

Oscar was about 20 years older then my grandmother, Olive Redfern. So I'm rather young (50ish) to have a grandfather born that long ago. Olive was his second wife,(Lilly was his first) and Olive was the one that bore his four children. George Olen Glenn was the firstborn son. He died near the age of two. When I asked my grandmother why he died...she said something about choking on cornbread. Somehow I think there is more to the story. My mother came next. Then Nolen aka Sonny, then Patricia aka Patty.

Nolen died in 2002 in Ft. Smith, AR Patty is still alive in MO and so is my mother.

I think she has photos of the Glenns. I'll ask her for them next time I see her.

Cheryl

Re: Mandy Lay

BeckyDickson74 — 2010-01-18 14:43:29Z

No I haven't heard that story.

It's very nice to meet you.

I'm confused. Dolly wasn't my grandmother. Oscar was my grandfather's sister if I'm thinking of the correct Dolly. My grandfather was Wilburn P. ("Wib" or "Red") Glenn. Red's mother was Lena (Chronister) Glenn.

Re: Mandy Lay

cherylinthepink — 2010-01-18 12:24:23Z

Hi Mandy,

Your grandmother, Dollie, was my mother's (Thelma Mae Glenn-Oscar's first daughter) aunt. We used to go visit in Arkoma, her sister, Lena aka Aunt Sis, quite often. Aunt Sis would tell us the story about the "double-headed nickle"that kept Dollie and her children fed during the depression days.

Are you familiar with that story?

cynthia renea chronister

suebrs — 2009-12-22 05:21:22Z

if you have any infoon cynthia. father charles m. chronister. born joliet illinois 1969. contact suebrs@yahoo.com

Re: Chronister, Roy E. (OBIT PA 1-9-2008)

obituary33b — 2009-10-23 18:35:36Z

All I know is what is contained in the obituary which is attached.

Re: Chronister, Roy E. (OBIT PA 1-9-2008)

ginigonser — 2009-10-23 16:38:36Z

That is so crazy cuz my great great grandfather's name was Thomas Roy Chronister and my father's middle name is Eugene. Do you know if any family members moved to Arkansas or Nevada?

Re: Chronister Book

ginigonser — 2009-10-23 16:30:45Z

Did any family end up in Russellville Arkansas?

Re: Chronister Book

rbc671 — 2009-10-18 04:30:24Z

We started off in germeny in 1851 and landed in Penn, 1853. From what I have been told. Thats all I know my dad Had a family book.

Re: Looking for GGGrandmother Perdine Chronister

DebraOverbey — 2009-09-06 20:11:46Z

Peggy, Whereas, I agree with you about the danger of using incomplete and inaccurate online sources, I have to ask you to move this discussion to a different thread.

I don't want to hijack the discussion of Perdine/Paradine Chronister from the original poster.
Debra

Re: Looking for GGGrandmother Perdine Chronister

1PeggyReeves — 2009-09-04 14:44:08Z

Debra,

Thanks for pointing that out, you are right, I called your book of marriages and the ancestry databases "transcriptions" and that is not entirely accurate in either case. The point I was making was that when you don't look at the original record, you are counting on someone else to be perfect when they "transcribe" (meaning write down) what they see, whether they do a complete "transcription" (copying everything on the record verbatim) or only an "abstract" (copying down selected facts from the original record).

The point that I would like to make is that an awful lot of what you see in print and online is not reality, including the subscription service databases.

For example...

Ancestry.com has a database entitled: "York County, Pennsylvania, 1801-53; Trinity Reformed Church" In this database, you will find an Adam Chronister, father; an Elizabeth Chronister, mother; and a child named Rebecca Ann Chronister being baptized. There is no date for any of these people.

When you click on the link to get information about the source for this database, here is what you get: "Lineages, Inc., comp., York County, Pennsylvania, 1801-53; Trinity Reformed Church [database online], Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2000. Original Data: Transcribed from LDS Family History Library microfilm copies of church records for this locality. For more information, see the Family History Library Catalog".

So what does all of THAT mean?! It's nothing but a legal progression of money-making entities who bought rights from each other, who don't necessarily know where their information came from. Thus, ancestry's "source" has little to do with the actual original source of the records.

As directed by ancestry, I checked the Family History online library catalog by putting in: "York, Pennsylvania" and clicking on: "church records". Many church records were listed for York, but this one was not. Gee, thanks!

Fortunately, I checked the collection of various state records on microfilm at the DAR Library here in D.C. I found "Church Records of the First (Trinity) Reformed Church at York, PA, 1744-1853, copied by William J. Hinke, 1942". That title, in itself, gives you more information than what the ancestry database revealed. First of all, it tells you that ancestry's database is apparently not complete if theirs begins from 1801. It also tells you that this is going to be a transcription or abstract, not microfilm of original records. It also gives you the author, which the "source" at ancestry leaves out entirely.

On the microfilm at the DAR Library were typewritten pages, apparently done by Hinke. Mr. Hinke probably did a complete transcription, not just an abstract, because he gave the sponsors' names and other information found in the church books, and even gave the page numbers from the original church book.

On page 209 of Hinke's work, which he says is page 202 of the original church book, is: "Adam Chronister and Elizabeth, parents of Rebecca Ann, baptized Hampton, Adams County. Sponsor: Margaret Schaefer". This particular record is not dated, but since the church book was apparently transcribed verbatim, and baptisms were listed chronologically, it was easy to date it. The record listed before the Chronister baptism was a baptism dated 16 January 1835, and the record after it was a baptism dated 21 January 1835. Therefore, the Chronister baptism took place sometime between those two dates.

It is interesting to note that the ancestry database called it a York County record, when Hampton is actually in Adams County. This church was originally formed in Lancaster County, in the area that later became York County in 1748, in the part which later became Adams County in 1800. Thus, none of this database at ancestry has anything to do with York County, because from 1801 forward, when ancestry's database begins, this church was in Adams County!

The next logical step is to see which library or historical society or other record repository holds the original church books, and find out if the actual pages have been microfilmed or digitized. Hinke could have made errors just like me and you and everyone else. Also, there are other early baptisms in this same church with the last names "Kronicker" and "Klopinger". Could these also be Chronisters? Maybe the handwriting was poor. It would be good to look at it ourselves.

As for what I posted previously about what we know about Matthias Chronister of PA/NC...a lot of that changed when I consulted the original records that the published sources referred to. A lot of mistakes were made in those published abstracts/transcriptions. A lot more original sources need to be looked at.

When I put my ongoing research notes and compilation of facts and sources of information online, and it gets immediately copied into various online pedigrees without a source (which it did), where I do not have access to correct it later as new information is found, then I am unwittingly participating in the spread of bad information, and that is NOT what I want to do.

It should be remembered that message board postings are the property of the person who posted it, and cannot be published verbatim without permission from the author.

Peggy Reeves

Re: Looking for GGGrandmother Perdine Chronister

DebraOverbey — 2009-08-31 15:09:46Z

As I mentioned before, The Pope County Library is a great place for Arkansas River Valley historical and genealogical research. Their website address is: http://www.popelibrary.org/index.php/genealogy/

E-Mail requests to: information@popelibrary.org

Be specific, give the source and page number of the record for which you need a copy. There will be a minimal charge. They do not do indepth research projects.

Re: Looking for GGGrandmother Perdine Chronister

SharonFoss55 — 2009-08-31 14:36:38Z

Thank you both Debra and Peggy for great insightfull information. My father was also born in the same area. I will write and obtain several records at the same time. This is the best help I could have asked for.
Sharon

Re: Looking for GGGrandmother Perdine Chronister

DebraOverbey — 2009-08-31 14:21:30Z

Peggy, et al.
The information I posted is not a volume of transcripted marriage records it is instead, ABSTRACTED as I noted. I also gave the source for obtaining a copy of the actual record.

There is a big difference in transcription and abstraction. In a transcription everything in the record is copied exactly as found; in an abstraction only the information judged important by the abstractor is pulled out of the original. Sometimes there is additional information that can serve as a clue in the actual record.

It is very possible that the numeral 7 was misread for a 2, which is the reason it is essential for every researcher to follow through and get a copy of the actual marriage record. I agree; No one should take information from anyone without checking it against the original.

>>According to the published abstracts of Pope Co., AR Marriages by McLane and Glazner, 1967:

Nickel, William, 21, to Paredine Chronister, 20, 1 Jan 1852, by John M. Bewley, MG, Book C:73.<<

Re: Looking for GGGrandmother Perdine Chronister

1PeggyReeves — 2009-08-31 10:52:13Z

Debra,

The date of that marriage in your book (which is a transcription of records) conflicts with the date that is on ancestry.com (which is also a transcription of records). Ancestry.com gives a date of 1 January 1857. Which one is right? No way to know if either of them are correct without ordering a copy of the original record, as you suggested.

This highlights the problem with putting this kind of information online--and the reason why I don't do it any more. People are too willing to copy everything they see into their databases, not ever questioning the accuracy of what they find.

Peggy Reeves

Re: Looking for GGGrandmother Perdine Chronister

DebraOverbey — 2009-08-31 00:59:40Z

There is a great deal of information available to you on the Chronister Message Boards at Rootsweb/Ancestry and in the archives of the Chronister Mail List at Rootsweb.

According to the published abstracts of Pope Co., AR Marriages by McLane and Glazner, 1967:

Nickel, William, 21, to Paredine Chronister, 20, 1 Jan 1852, by John M. Bewley, MG, Book C:73.

These records are available on microfilm from the Pope Co., AR Library for a small copying and postage fee. The genealogical collection in Pope Co. is quite good and the staff is very helpful.

Re: Looking for GGGrandmother Perdine Chronister

SharonFoss55 — 2009-08-31 00:13:51Z

Thank you! My Grandmother was also Perdine AnnieMae Daily from Pope County, AR. Do you have any info on the Chronister line. Or who she married Nichols. I have really hit a dead end on my father's mother's side.

Re: Chronisters from Mo.

jimmy3331 — 2009-07-29 19:37:21Z

I am the great-great granddaughter of Patrick H. Chronister and would like to possibly swap info with anyone else in the family line.

Re: Chronisters,Iron County, Mo

jimmy3331 — 2009-07-29 19:33:58Z

Hello. I am a great-great granddaughter of Patrick H. Chronister and would like to possibly swap information with someone. If interested please email me back.

looking for chronisters in wilburton,ok

ccbaird1 — 2009-06-24 21:22:57Z

I am looking for any relatives in wilburton, okla. I am interested in oscar chronister, any info would be great, thanks/1

Re: Mandy Lay

ccbaird1 — 2009-06-24 20:57:46Z

my fathers family lived in wilburton,ok, their last name was chronister, i was hoping for any info, i know his given name was harold,he was adopted when he was about 4 yrs old, i know he went back therer and found the family, i would like to know about them as well. Again, thank you for ant help! cindy

CHRONISTER Karla ATTEBERRY 1937-2001

t42RoseHill — 2009-06-05 12:40:06Z

CHRONISTER Karla ATTEBERRY 1937-2001

I photographed this gravestone in the (Shannon) Rose Hill Cemetery, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 203,768 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com .

If you know more about this person please reply here,instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

Matthias Chronister of PA and NC

1PeggyReeves — 2009-05-24 20:15:01Z

From time to time, it becomes necessary to re-evaluate the evidence when upon analysis facts no longer fit the generally accepted conclusion. Debra Overbey and I believe that now is the time to look closely at the evidence of Matthias Cronister and his wife, Elisabetha. Are we really able to name their children? Do we really know when he died? What do we know and what do we surmise? Can we get closer to historical truth by looking at the facts again?

Fact #1 - Matthias served during the French and Indian War, appearing on a muster roll in Carlisle (Cumberland Co., PA) dated 27 June 1758, listed as: “Matt’s Granister”. [Pennsylvania Archives, Series 5, vol 1, p. 224]

Fact #2 - Matthias is mentioned several times in the Lower Bermudian Church records but there is no relationship stated in those records between him and immigrant Johannes. [Translation of Church Book, Lutheran and Reformed Union Congregation, Lower Bermudian, Adams County, Pennsylvania by Edna Albert ca. 1934, part of the collection of the Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania]

Fact #3 - Matthias and wife Elisabetha baptized a child in PA: “Anna Maria Cranister of Matheis (Lutheran) and Elizabeth (Catholic), born 7 A.M., September 6, 1761, baptized October 18, 1761, at Carlisle, on the Bermudian.” [York County , Pennsylvania Church Records of the 18th Century by Marlene Strawser Bates and F. Edward Wright] The record of this same event as recorded in the Lower Bermudian Church record books show the sponsors to be Lorentz Detter son of Nicol, and Anna Maria Cranester. [same source as fact #2]

Fact #4 - Matthias is in the tax list of 1763 in West Pennsboro Township, Cumberland County, PA, as: “Mathew Cronister”. He does not appear in the Cumberland County tax list transcriptions for 1762 or 1764. [Tax Lists – Cumberland County, PA, 1750, 1751, 1752, 1753, 1762, 1763, 1764 by Merri Lou Scribner Schaumann, page 52]

Fact #5 - Matthias received a crown grant for land in NC in 1773. [Land Patent, No. 621-381, p. 209, to Mathias Cronister, 300 acres Tryon Co., NC, 25 Jan 1773. North Carolina State Archives, Raleigh, NC]

Fact #6 - Matthius and Elisabeth sold land to Michael Buff in 1787. His signature appears to be “Matthes Karonister” The middle initial is difficult to read; Elisabeth used the Roman numeral “X” as her mark over the clerk’s “Elisabeth Cronister.” [Lincoln Co., NC Real Estate Conveyances, 1785-1793, Bk. 3:274, 275, Matthias Cronister and his wife, Elisabeth, to Michael Buff, 300 acres, 15 Oct 1787. North Carolina State Archives, Raleigh, NC]

Fact #7 - There is no Matthias Chronister as head of household in the 1790 NC Census. Only one Chronister household is recorded in NC in the 1790 census, and Adam is the head of that household. The household consists of three adults—two males and one female. No other names are given, no ages, and no relationships. [National Archives microfilm M-637, roll #7, First Census of the United States, North Carolina, Lincoln Co., p. 128]

Fact #8 - Matthias Cronister was granted 320 acres of land in Washington County, TN, on 12 July 1794 [Earliest Tennessee Land Records and Earliest Tennessee Land History, by Irene M. Griffey, p. 152]

Some of these facts were not known by those who developed the early theories about this family. Matthias disappeared from the PA records and resurfaced in NC. It was presumed that the Adam in the 1790 NC census was the son of Matthias, because Matthias was the only adult Chronister that anyone could document being in NC. The two other adults living with him in 1790 were presumed to be his aging parents. This is a HUGE assumption to make, considering the number of other possibilities that exist.

The 1790 census does not list each member of the household by name, nor does it give specific age ranges. There are two males and one female over the age of 16 in the one and only Chronister household listed, with Adam as head of that household. It is well-known that many households did not get enumerated at all in that first census in NC.

The early theory of Matthias and Elisabetha having five children named James, William, Anna Maria, Adam, and Eve, needs to be re-evaluated in light of the documentation that has been found in recent years. We would like to examine and discuss the documentation for these children to see if the known facts agree with the early theory. Perhaps there are others who have found additional documentation that they might be willing to share and discuss. Please look at this list of facts with an unbiased approach and give your observations online so that all Chronister researchers may benefit.

Peggy Reeves

Jacob Chronister Obituary 1920

scottshar9200_1 — 2009-05-24 01:30:37Z

This is my family Line If There Is any Information Out there That may help Me please fill free to share I'll give you what I have on them

Thanks Sharon

Altoona Mirror April 14 1920 Pg 245 and

BCGS
Jacob Chronister

Another Old Veteran Of the Civial War Has answered the last Roll Call
He was born at Center Line Oct 4, 1838 and was the son of Cyrus and Margaret
Chronister who were among the early settlers of Warriors Mark Valley. The greater part of his life was spent in Farming and after the death of his wife he came to Tyrone in 1915 and made his home with his daughter Mrs. John C Root of Pennsylvania Avenue. Tyrone Pa
When A Young man he answered the first call for volunteers and served three years in CO.I 5th Regiment Infantry, Pennsylvania Reserves and participated in all the Battles in which this Regiment was engaged Being discharged in June 1864.
He was united in Marriage on Dec 18, 1866 at Warriors Mark with Miss Miriam Lemon. These Children survive Cyrus of Warriors Mark Edgar and Lloyd of Cross Roads
Walter, Lawrence and Mrs. John C. Root of Tyrone
He was a member of the First Lutheran Church. Post number 172, G.A.R. and the Daughters of Veterans.
Short Service will be held at his Daughter’s Mrs. John Root tomorrow afternoon at 1 o’clock in charge of Rev E.M. Morgan after which the body will be taken overland to the Lutheran Church at Centre Line where further services will be conducted. Interment in Center Line Cemetery
The members of Post 172, G.A.R. will attend the funeral

Mrs Root is Mary Margaret Chronister

A New Look at the Past Using Professionalism and Respect

DebraOverbey — 2009-05-23 14:02:14Z

The Chronister Research Board and Mail List is primarily inactive. In the past I have tried to jumpstart the list with discussions and postings of transcriptions and abstracts of original records. On several occasions this has escalated to name calling and disrespect between list members. If we as researchers are concerned about finding the keys to our family history, we should be willing to work together without descending to this level. I believe that I am able to work with all researchers, even those with whom I have basic disagreements about interpretation of records and methods of research. I assume that all others on this list are able to do the same. I invite all persons interested in Chronister (var. sp.) research to participate in board and list exchanges and combine efforts to solve our family puzzles.

Peggy Reeves and I have been comparing notes on the Southern line of the Chronister Family. In doing so, we realized that we know much more about Matthias Cronister than previously thought. It is our hope that other researchers of this line will join us in evaluating this information and reevaluating earlier theories about the family structure of Matthias and Elisabetha Cronister of Lincoln Co., NC.

As list and board manager, I am asking that all comments posted to the message boards at RootsWeb, Ancestry and the Chronister mail list at Ancestry be professional and objective. This and any following posts by Peg and I are intended only to encourage further research into our Chronister lineage and will not contain any negative personal remarks directed to any other researcher. I expect the same of all other posters. Should the discussion become abusive or include reflections of a personal nature, I will unsubscribe the poster of such messages, no exceptions.

Your participation on this board and associated mail list is requested.

Debra Blackard Overbey, debrablackard@centurytel.net
Chronister List Manager

Re: Mandy Lay

jmiller447 — 2009-04-24 17:54:44Z

How ni
ce to meet you. My daughters name is Mandy. My Grannie was Dollie and I was at Reds funeral. They are burried at Wister. My mothers named after Lena Chronister (her grandmother). Have you visited Leflore County? I go there all the time. My father and mother were from there. I have many cousins I know on my fathers side but I no almost no one from my mothers side except her sisters and brothers all of who have passed away except one. My name is Jackie and I live in Oklahoma City. I am 57 and an accountant at Climatemaster. I have 2 children and my hobbies are working in the yard, shooting guns, and riding my Harley. I know I sound kind of rough, but I'm very much a lady. I do have some information on the familey at home that I would like to share with you. You may already have it. Lets talk. Jackie

CHRONISTER Karla ATTEBERRY 1937-2001

t42RoseHill — 2009-04-22 23:34:29Z

CHRONISTER Karla ATTEBERRY 1937-2001

I photographed this gravestone in the (Shannon) Rose Hill Cemetery, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 203,261 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com .

If you know more about this person please reply here,instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

Re: Looking for GGGrandmother Perdine Chronister

DebraOverbey — 2009-04-18 19:01:27Z

Since I speak the language of the Arkansas Hill Country from where Paradine grew to adulthood, I propose that "Paradine" may well have been pronounced as "Perdine." Sometimes you can hear the echoes of your ancestors'speech patterns by comparing the spellings of their names in contemporary correspondence and records.

Re: Looking for GGGrandmother Perdine Chronister

SharonFoss55 — 2009-04-18 15:25:08Z

When I posted this message back in Jan., 2009 I misspelled the given name. It is Perdine. I have also found other info from family that Perdine may have been of Native American blood. She married a Nichols. I have not been able to find any birth, marriage or even census records as proof. I do have a photo of her head stone with dates but no birth location. I am not finding anything on her daughter Sarah K Nichols until after her marriage to James David Christian Daily my GGrandfather. All the info I have is from Pope County, Arkansas. Thank you for any help

Re: Looking for Bessie Chronister who married Virgil Shelby Chronister

Carletta1976 — 2009-03-23 17:03:21Z

Sorry, I should also mention she was born April 10, 1903 in Arkansas (around Rector, supposedly). And she died June 29th 1999 in Farmington, Missouri. I forget when she married my grandfather, but that piece of information is easy to track down.

Thanks,
Carly

Looking for Bessie Chronister who married Virgil Shelby Chronister

Carletta1976 — 2009-03-23 17:01:40Z

I cannot find my grandmother anywhere with her maiden name. I can find her death record (with her married name), and I can find her marriage to my grandfather (Virgil Shelby Chronister), but I cannot find her by her maiden name, so therefore I cannot find her parents, grandparents, etc. It's been a dead end for me so far, and I was wondering if anyone else knew any information about her, or how I could go about finding this information out? Her name is (according to her children) Sarah Elizabeth Parrish. But like I said, the only records I can find of her are under her married given name of Bessie Chronister. If you can help, I would really appriciate it. Oh, her parents names are supposed to be Lonnie(Lonzo, Elonzo) Parrish and Julie(Julia) A. Ray. Thanks in advance.

Carly

Looking for GGGrandmother Pardine Chronister

SharonFoss55 — 2009-01-28 00:36:18Z

I am looking for infomation on Pardine Chronister b. 1837. she had a daughter Sarah Kathryne Nichols b. Nov. 1880, Sarah was mother to My Grandmother and she was named after her Grandmother, her name is Pardine AnnieMae Daily. I was told a story of Pardine Chronister being a lady of the evening and was carring Sarah when she met a Nichols and married him. I don't have his first name and have no idea if there were any other children. I have hit a dead end with this part of my search. They are from the Ark/Tenn/Alabama area. Thanks for any help. I am also looking for Pardine's husband (Nichols).
Sharon