Cicotte - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Howard Cicotte

genealogy20121 — 2012-01-04 05:37:57Z

I am looking for imformation on Howard H. and Dorothy L. Cicotte.. Does anyone know who Dorothy's parents were?

Re: Eddie Cicotte

cnoel62 — 2011-09-01 19:59:32Z

I have a great great grandfather by the name Charles Cicotte and one of his brothers was named Edward CICOTTE Perhaps this may be your Eddie. He married Julia agatha Visger.

Re: Cicotte Family

Ccicottelake — 2011-04-22 01:50:28Z

Hi Wendy, it sounds likely that your father is my first cousin. He was quite a bit older then me, so I don't have a lot of memories to share. My cousin has siblings with the same names you mentioned, plus one other brother and sister. Have you ever been in touch with him or his siblings?
Later . . .
I looked further back and see that my cousin steve made contact with you years ago, so my info is not new. I am glad I stumbled on this site and discovered I have another relative out there!

Re: Eddie Cicotte's wife's maiden name

sbroyles216 — 2010-11-26 01:52:27Z

Sorry, I misread the bio. No I don't know Rose's maiden name. I never met Rose or my great uncle Eddie, just heard my mom speak of them.
Good luck
Regards
Stan

Re: Eddie Cicotte's wife's maiden name

Megg14 — 2010-11-25 19:03:55Z

Thank you, Stan, for your reply. I believe her given name, Rose, was mentioned in the biographies of Eddie. Do you know her maiden name? That is what we are looking for.
Nancy Sicotte

Re: Eddie Cicotte

sbroyles216 — 2010-11-25 16:32:17Z

Eddie Cicotte's wife was Rose. Eddie was my grandfather's brother, my mother's (Lucille Cicotte Broyles) uncle and my great uncle. Al Cicotte was my first cousin, His dad Alva and my mother were brother/sister.
Stan Broyles

Re: Cicotte /Girard marriage Michigan

RonCicotte — 2009-11-29 02:28:22Z

I have a Felix Elmer Cicotte b. 1895 in my tree but have no information abt his marriage. I also have a couple of Girard entries but nothing that points directly to the individuals in your inquiry. You can see the full tree at http://jeanchiquot.cicotte.us/ if you think it will help.

Re: Cicotte Tree

RonCicotte — 2009-11-29 02:14:04Z

I'm not sure if I ever responded to this message. If you are still around and interested in the family tree it would be great to hear from you. You can contact me at ron.cicotte@summerstreet.com. I'd love to hear more about the Chiquot families in Saint Lucia. You can see the full tree as it exists today at http://jeanchiquot.cicotte.us/

Re: Cicotte /Girard marriage Michigan

slaesser1 — 2009-10-26 03:44:13Z

I have an entry in French Families of the Detroit River Region for a Theofile Girard b. 1831 marrying Josephine Mary Larabel b. 15 Sep 1846 and marriage 14 Nov 1865 Son of Sebastian Girard and Margaret Aginie

Re: New Web Site

roncicotte_1 — 2009-02-08 21:43:57Z

or try http://jeanchiquot.cicotte.us/
or http://familytree.cicotte.us/

Re: New Web Site

roncicotte_1 — 2008-06-22 10:32:08Z

The previous link is broken due to out-dated ip address. The Cicotte family web site can be viewed at http://cicotte.us.

Thanks,

-ron cicotte

Re: Cicotte /Girard marriage Michigan

rke1425 — 2008-02-04 15:16:27Z

I would like to talk with you! I'm researching a Theophile Girard (1829-1911), a Civil War vet from Co D, 11 Mich. Inf. and lived in the Detroit/Springwells area.

His children were: Mrs AT Labadie, Mrs Columbus Roulo, Mrs JF Doyle, Mrs J Quinn, Edmund Girard, and Miss Gertrude Girard. Are these people in your tree?

I need photos/portraits of them for a publication (Images of America).

Thanks, Elaine

Re: Jean B. Cicot/Cicotte Pottawatomie/Chicago/Illinois

ejweidig — 2007-12-06 21:46:16Z

Definitely going to do some checking into this. there is a Natice American bureau relatively near me, so if I hear anything, I will for sure post it!

Re: Jean B. Cicot/Cicotte Pottawatomie/Chicago/Illinois

pearlsou — 2007-12-06 06:33:19Z

i have a grandparent with the same name,it may be who you are looking for.
james godfroy born 1684 canada m to mary st chesne b 1690 canada.
two of the children are my grandparents.
james godfroy born 1722 detroit, m to louise c chapton.
sister, also a grandparent.
mary angelica godfroy born 1720 detroit, m to zatharias cicotte, born 1708 abt, died 1775 detroit, married 1736 to mary godfroy ,
in a note i have says that mary st chasne ,the mother, is the daughter of a miame chief. could never fine out for sure, also the mother mary was married to 2nd, to jacques boutin,.

Re: parents

shirleysperson — 2007-10-10 15:29:02Z

Joe, this is the only way I could try & contact you. Looked all over the internet for you. Mail to talldogs was returned. Mr. Mendelsson from OCC is attempting to locate you. Feels you're extremely talented and misses you in more classes. Please call him asap.
Debbie from WaterColor I

Re: Jean B. Cicot/Cicotte Pottawatomie/Chicago/Illinois

ejweidig — 2007-05-09 23:17:40Z

Interesting. My mom always said the family had some Native American lineage. Do you know if Jean B Cicot/Cicotte could have been John Baptiste son of Mary Angelica Godfrey de Mauboef? Mary's parents are James Godfrey de Mauboef and Mary Chene. I had heard Chene was a common Native American designation.

Joseph Cicotte

ejweidig — 2007-05-09 23:13:00Z

Looking for anyone with information about Joseph Cicotte who worked as ticket taker/manager with an acting troupe/ theater. Looks like he married an actress named Alice who was from England. Alice had a son Edward Gray. I think he might be a relative who deserted his family in Detroit to travel with the troupe, but ended back up in Detroit in the 1920 time frame.

Re: Edward V. Cicotte, d. 1902, age 50

ccr1058 — 2004-10-24 04:12:01Z

Since posting, I have found new information which may be of interest to Cicotte researchers:

(1) Chicago Evening Journal, September 22, 1863, p. 1, col. 7, under "Marriages"

At Detroit, Thursday, September 10, 1863, FRANK M SMITH, son of J.A. Smith, Esq. of this city, to Miss Sephora, daughter of E. V. Cicott, Esq. of the former place.

(2) Death Certificate for Francis M. Smith

Name: Francis M. Smith
Birthplace: Chicago
Age: 63 years
Date of Death: 13 October 1899
Married
Occupation: Promoter?
Place of Death: 6525 Drexel Avenue (Ward 33)
Place of Burial: Rose Hill
Date of Burial: 15 Oct 1899

(2) Death Certificate for Edward V. Cicotte

Name: Edward V Cicotte
Birthplace: Michigan?
Age: 50 years
Date of Death: 2 October 1902
Married
Occupation: Clerk
Place of Death: Mercy Hospital
Removed to hospital from 6525 Drexel Avenue
Place of Burial: Rose Hill
Date of Burial: 3 Oct 1899
Had lived in Illinois 1 year

NOTES: Comparing the information on the two certificates, it appears that Edward came to live with his sister not too long after her husband died.

maybe i can help you

polskiviking44pz — 2004-10-13 18:40:59Z

my name is Patrick Zalucha. my great grandfather joseph or stanislaw Zaucha married his 3rd cousin Bernice or Blanch Dziurgot together they had 16 children. as far as i know they were both from the city of Tarnow, Poland.

Re: New Web Site

jogalch — 2004-07-22 19:01:22Z

Hi Ron; I tried to get to your knew web site,but it didn't work.What do i do to get to it? I've cooresponded with you before about Ira Ambrose Cicotte. I'm the greatgrandniece of Laura Wagenknecht Cicotte.She was Ira's first wife.She left him soon after their daughter Irene Rose was born. From what I can tell ,she never remarried and ended up living with Irene. Irene married Fredrick William Tucker,and had,Virginia,Loretta,Mary EllenFredrick,And Robert. Irene divorced Fredrick and married Karl Fend,who apparently fathered a child by Loretta. The family acknowledges what happened,but are reluctant to talk about it. Loretta and her son still live in Detroit. Have you any thing new since I last heard from you in 1998. Geri Leech in Florida. P.S. I too have a new e-mail address. It's jogalch@earthlink.net. I also have a picture of your famous baseball player ancestor.

cicotti

jflorio — 2004-05-10 15:21:51Z

noticed the name on the family message board, but ours ended with i. paternal great-grandfather, born 1873, in cento, bologna, italy. any relations?

Cicotte /Girard marriage Michigan

d1d2k3 — 2004-04-28 06:16:19Z

Does anyone have any info on a Gretrude Cicotte who married Theophile Girard (nn Theo or Tuff) in the early 1900s sometime. I think Gertrude's parents were named Felix (possibly his middle name) and Julia. Theophile Girard was b. abt 1874 in Trenton Wayne co. area and Gertrude was b. abt 1880 unknown where.
Theophile and Gertude had children named Arvella, Orval and Nelson Girard. I know they lived in the Detroit area possibly River Rouge or Allen Park. Theophile Girard was my great grandfather's youngest brother. Theophile died when he was abt 55 Y.O. What became of his family? Any descendants?

Jean B. Cicot/Cicotte Pottawatomie/Chicago/Illinois

2004-04-08 16:18:30Z

On the Treaty with the Ottawas, Chippewas, and Pottawatomies, at Chicago on the 24th of December 1821 is the following listing: The section of land granted by the treaty of St. Mary's, in one thousand eight hundred and eighteen, to Peerish(Peeresh) or Perig, shall be granted to Jean B. Cicot, son of Pesayquot, sister of the Peeresh, it having been so intended at the execution of the said treaty. Article 2 and 3, American State Papers, 17th Congress, 1st Session #174.

Cicotte? Wayne Co, Michigan

xxxKelley_Hamilton — 2004-01-26 19:36:51Z

I am searching for the parents of my 2nd Great Grandmother Martha Cicott (Cicotte) b: 15 Dec 1831 in either Michigan or New York who married first Abner Orcutt and second Franklin Hamilton in Wayne Co., Michigan. Census records list both birth places Michigan and New York.

Her Obit reads as follows:
Maumee Pioneer Dead
Mrs. Frank Hamilton Yeilds to Infirmities of Age
Mrs. Frank Hamilton, a resident of Maumee for more than 70 years, died yesterday at her late home. Her death was due largely to the infirmities of old age. She was born December 15, 1831, in New York state and came to Maumee with her parents when a child of three years. She was married at the age of 16 to Abner Orcutt who died in 1851, leaving two children a son Curtis Orcutt and a daughter, now Mrs. Lottie Lloyd.
In 1856 she was married to Frank Hamilton, who with a son, Frank Hamilton Jr., of Union Oregon, survives her. Four sisters are also living, Mrs. Laura De La Telle of Los Angeles; Mrs. Julia Romaine of San Bernardine; Mrs. C. Bartley of Arbor Spring, Mich.; and Mrs. Mary Howe of Carleton, Mich.
The funeral will be held Wednessday afternoon from the M. E. Church in Maumee, the Rev. Eli Molter to officiate. The Relief Corps will also take part in the services. Interment will be in Riverside.

In a letter left by my great grandfather Franklin Lincoln Hamilton son of Martha Cicott (Cicotte), he wrote:
My Mother married a Welch man, a carpenter, and from that union there was two children, James Curtis, and Lottie Orcutt. Mr Orcutt, died in 1855 and Mother lived single till 1857 when she met my Father, they were married and I am the only child from that union. I was born October 1, 1860 at Maumee, Ohio.
It also states that Martha was the third child of two boys and twelve girls born to her parents near Trenton, Michigan, and that Martha's parents both died in 1845 during a disease outbreak.

Any information on this family would be greatly appreciated.

Re: New Web Site

roncicotte1 — 2003-12-29 03:24:51Z

Sherrie,

The web site at http://summerstreet.net/cicotte/ is the latest version though I have recently acquired much more information that is not yet posted. I used the internal IP address you tried to access for a while but the address is changed from time to time by my ISP and I have no control over it. I am now using the summerstreet address exclusively for posting the genealogy info so that I don't have to keep changing the address on users like yourself. You will find everything that I have posted so far there.

Thanks for the words of encouragement. I enjoy doing it but it is very good to know that others appreciate the effort.

Re: Cicotte Tree

2003-08-26 15:29:36Z

Well I dont know that I can help, but while searching for my family tree which is chiquot, I noticed your message. I would like to interact with you, seeing that you are a new found relative of mine. There are plenty of us in saint lucia in the west indies. hope to hear from you.

Steve where is your family from?

@@Klk235@aol.com — 2003-07-28 01:53:31Z

Steve where is your family from? Many Cicottes are from the Detroit area and there are searchable geneologies of the French families in that area.

Re: parents

2003-07-02 22:49:19Z

No...the only name that appears on the birth certificate is Cicotte.
I was born on June 7th 1960. At Providence Hospital in Detroit. My birth name was Joseph Allen. I was adopted through Catholic Social Services via Sarah Fisher Home.

That is all the information I have. I'm not looking for anything except a key to my roots.

Thanks,
Joseph Allen...

little boy cicotte

nadazkada — 2003-05-05 13:30:35Z

My fiance's mother is a cicotte by marriage. Her name is kimberly Ann and her maiden name is Warnke. She has a son, Daniel 19 years old. His grandfather's name is Eddie Victor Cicotte, he played for the white sox and threw the world series. if you have anymore information to share, feel free to e-mail me @ nadazkada@netscape.net

natalie hackney

little boy cicotte

nadazkada — 2003-05-05 13:30:35Z

Re: New Web Site

2003-04-24 21:59:11Z

Hi Ron, Your site at summerstreet is wonderful. I have gained alot of knowledge from it. I have been trying to get to your new site. No luck. My line is from Zacharie, Jean Baptiste and Zachariah and Umelia Cicotte. Thanks for your time and all that you do. Sherrie

reply to grandma

2003-04-17 15:34:01Z

excuse my incorrect facts. i was just going by what danny's brother mike had told me. i was once engaged to mike. we are no longer together. i was doing this to help find family for them. kim is now married and is very happy. like i said before, i am sorry for the incorrect information.

Re: Cicotte? Wayne Co, Michigan

ron_cicotte — 2003-03-04 17:18:17Z

I have checked my site and found only one Martha Cicotte b 22 Feb 1843. I found only 3 siblings but that means only that I have no other information. Your information is articulated very well and there may be some clue that I have missed. Please feel free to check out my site on the Cicotte family at http://66.31.104.68/Cicotte/ to see if you can find anything there that would help.

Good Luck!

-ron

Re: Cicotte? Wayne Co, Michigan

ron_cicotte — 2003-03-04 17:18:17Z

Tom,
I'm sorry I haven't responded sooner but for some reason I never received notification of your post. I only happened upon it today while doing some research.

You don't say which Joseph Cicotte. I have several in my family tree but the most likely candidate would be Joseph Cicotte III b. 18 Mar 1853. He was married first to Virginia Beaubien with whom he had 5 children and later to Josephine Bouchard and had 3 children with her.

I wish I could help you. I would love to have a copy of the photo for my web site. Unfortunately I know nothing about the people you mention in your post. I will try to find out more about Evelyn Honour Owen. If she is a registered genealogist I should be able to locate her. Otherwise it will be quite difficult. Could you scan the clipping and send me a copy?

Please keep in touch and let me know if you have any success.

Ron

New Web Site

ron_cicotte — 2003-03-04 17:18:17Z

Some of you have been using my web site at Summerstreet.com for your research on the Cicotte Family. The site has been updated and moved to http://66.31.104.68/Cicotte/ There are new families and more information on some of the existing families so please check it out. If you have information to add or corrections to make please contact me at ron.cicotte@summerstreet.net

Thanks and good luck with your search!

Re: Edward V. Cicotte, d. 1902, age 50

ron_cicotte — 2003-03-04 17:18:17Z

The Death Certificate for Edward also shows that he was buried 3 years before he died. Not a pretty thought. When I got the birth certificate for my grandfather Ira Ambrose Cicotte it had him listed as female named Ida A. I know that he had a sister named Ida who was about 8 years older. I know that I had the correct birth date for him because I had information from the cemetary where he was buried and it showed his age at death very precisely (years, months, days) and I know his sister was born earlier because she is listed in the 1870 census data. The birth certificate was in error.

I believe the burial date of 1899 is probably correct because the age at death is listed as 50 and he was born in March, 1850. That is confirmed by census data. Still a discrepancy but much smaller. I believe Sephora to be the Bridget Sepharad Cicotte listed in my family tree. The birth and death dates match and she is married to Frank M. Smith with a death listed as before 1908 in Chicago. Thank you for this information. It is a great improvement on what I had.

Her brother Edward V. probably came to chicago much earlier and it means that he died while living with them but actually about 2 weeks earlier than her husband Frank. If you look at the dates the only one that is way out of line is the 1902.

Unfortunately this process is full of opportunities for error and we all have to do a little guesswork. For now I will stick with my assessment and keep Edwards death listed as 1899.

Thanks again for your efforts.

Ron

Re: little boy cicotte

2003-02-22 03:58:38Z

Natalie, Please get your facts straight. 1.First of all Eddie V. Cicotte Sr. is Dannys great great grandfather. My father, Ed Srs son, Eddie Jr, was Dannys GreatGrandfather & I am Danny's Grandmother.( Kimberlys Mother )
2.You had best do more research before stating any more lies on here. Eddie was NEVER convited of throwing the game nor did he ever admitt to it. In the many happy years I spent with my grandfather he always insisted he was innocent 3. Kimberly & Danny had thier names changed to "Cicotte" from Eddy. So your title of " little boy cicotte" is also incorrect .
It is the" Uninformed " or shall we say "Glory Seekers " that destroy the reputations of great men. It is a pity that some seek fame through the God given talent & hard work of others.

Gary Cicotte

skyline420 — 2003-01-08 00:05:38Z

I am trying to locate a Gary Cicotte who lived in 1984 in Burlingame, CA. He was an airplane pilot, owned veterinary clinics and was also an artist. I believe he attended college in Michigan and majored in biology. He is probably in his late 50's or early 60's

Re: What year?

2002-09-18 02:10:35Z

I was born June 7, 1960

Re: Gary Cicotte

2002-09-09 21:13:29Z

Gary lives in S.F. right over the old Washington Square Bar & Grill, which is now Cobalts....

Re: Cicotte? Wayne Co, Michigan

2002-08-11 18:11:29Z

Hi Ron,

One of the contacts I made at Ancestry.com was a fellow who sent me a clipping of Evelyn Honour Owen who did some work on the Riopelle and Cicotte family. She is pictured with a very nice photo of Joseph Cicotte. The article lists her brother Ben Southerland of Allen Park, a son named Stephen Stoltes of Grosse Ile, whose wife is Martha and sons are Stephen and Phillip and a sister who lives in Arizona by the name of Dolores Cornea. I have tried without any luck to locate these indivuduals so that I might get a digital image of Joseph Cicotte and a copy of the genealogy she completed. Any ideas.

Re: Edward V. Cicotte, d. 1902, age 50

2002-07-27 12:14:33Z

Cynthia,

In your message you says Edward V. died in 1902 at age 50 but your subject says 1905. I have an entry in my files for an Edward Vincent Cicotte born 9 Mar 1850, Detroit, MI ( see my website at http://summerstreet.com/cicotte ). It shows him as having married Sarah H. Andrews b. 1851 with two children Paul Roland and Blanche Mary. His father's name was also Edward V. and his sister Bridget Sepharad Cicotte married a Frank Smith who died sometime before 1908 in Chicago. It's been awhile since I did this so I would have to look up the reference.

Please feel free to use my website for your research and let me know if it helps. If you have additional information on Frank and his family and we can confirm that he is the one who married Bridget I would gladly add the information to my site.

-ron cicotte

Edward V. Cicotte, d. 1902, age 50

SHONAGON — 2002-07-27 12:14:14Z

In researching the family of James A. Smith of Chicago I have come across the Cicotte surname a couple of times. Sophora Cicotte, d. 17 Sep 1908, age 65, buried at Rosehill, married James' son Frank (or Francis) M., in September of 1863. An Edward V. Cicotte, d. 2 October 1902, age 50 is also buried in the Smith family burial plot at Rosehill Cemetery. Anyone have information about this Edward and know why he might be buried with the Smiths? Was Sophora his daughter or sister? Thanks for the help.

Re: Howard Cicotte

2002-07-26 21:39:32Z

Jeff,

I think I found the connection to your family and Shawn's if my hunch is right. I got some info last year from Lucille Cicotte Paas whose father was Arthur Cicotte. Arthur had two brothers (Howard and Warren) so they are Lucille's Uncles. If these are the same Howard and Warren who are your grandparents then the link has been found because their father was Alva Thomas Cicotte who was one of my Grandfathers brothers. There were 6 boys in my grandfathers family:
Ira Ambrose (my grandfather) b. 11 Apr 1878, Ecorse, MI
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Edward (Eddie "Knuckles" Cicotte the baseball player); b. 19 Jun 1884
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Alva Thomas (Your great grandfather if I am correct); b. 1880
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James W. b. 1876;
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George Edward, b. 1867
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Charles M., b. 1873
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Howard Cicotte was born in 1905 and Warren in 1913. If this fits please let me know and I would appreciate any family information you could pass on. I would be glad to add it to my web site. I think that Warren was a judge or sherrif in Melvindal.

Please let me know if this is correct.

Thanks,

-ron

Re: Cicotte Tree

2002-07-26 20:55:15Z

I guess I'm still not understanding what your looking for. Your grandfather's lineage is posted on my website at http://summerstreet.com/cicotte. It goes all the way back to William Guillaume Chiquot in Isle de Oleron, LaRochelle France. His son Jean Cicotte was the first Cicotte in North America.

Since you know who your grandfather was you have all of your ancestry back to William.

-ron

Re: Cicotte Tree

2002-07-26 20:24:29Z

Ron, my dad is Robert Fredrick Cicotte his dad was Fredrick Joseph Cicotte born 8-8-1880 in Ecorse MI. I can't find anything about any information on my granfathers side of the family.

Re: Cicotte Tree

2002-07-26 19:35:32Z

Mark,

What is it about Frederick Joseph that makes you think this is your ancestor? If we know that perhaps we can help.

You can check out my website at http://summerstreet.com/cicotte and see if there is anything there that will help.

Regards,

-ron cicotte

Re: Thanks Again.

2002-07-19 20:39:47Z

Thank you for your kind words. It was very exciting to talk with a relative on my fathers' side. Unfortunately, it abruptly stopped when I asked if my father or his other siblings would consider talking to me.....but, it's nice to know that there are some nice people out there. Thanks Again! Wendy

Re: Thanks Again.

2002-07-19 18:55:08Z

Dear Windy,

In 1958 my father moved from River Rouge Michigan and landed in Glendale California, where he had a baby with a girlfriend. About 15 years ago she was able to contact me and we have since visited on the phone and once in person.
It is gratifying to meet a flesh and blood relative after a long separation through whatever the circumstances. I'm happy for you.

Tom Jordan
Santa Barbara, CA

Re: your cousin Linda

2002-07-19 18:24:56Z

Dear Linda,

Please include me on your website for the Cicotte family. I have some photos and newspaper clippings that I would like to add and would like to find some photos of the Joseph Cicotte sr and jr family.

Best Regards,

Tom Jordan